America's Cup

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 9:29pm

Cheers!

Like Dublin Bay, except that they're doing 20kts, and look like they're standing still :eek:

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 9:30pm

You can see the frustration on oracle trying to get up on the foil (or at least one hull flying) and get some speed. Now where's that 'adverse' tide gone when you need it?!

Stheno · 20-09-2013 9:32pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Cheers!

Like Dublin Bay, except that they're doing 20kts, and look like they're standing still :eek:

My OH (who knows nothing about sailing) has been watching this with me, and he commented that they are going very slow.

I reminded him that possibly the fastest I've ever sailed is about 10 knots.

It's weird how slow it looks at that speed

miss no stars wrote: »

You can see the frustration on oracle trying to get up on the foil (or at least one hull flying) and get some speed. Now where's that 'adverse' tide gone when you need it?!

NZ seem to be foiling much better?

Good grief they are now speculating on tv about whether or not they will finish on time

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 9:34pm

are they racing both races if kiwis win this or leaving it at 13 races?

Stheno · 20-09-2013 9:35pm

miss no stars wrote: »

are they racing both races if kiwis win this or leaving it at 13 races?

If kiwis win this, then it's all over.

Do both teams have to finish in forty minutes does anyone know?

Oracle now over a minute and 45 seconds behind haven't yet hit the second mark.

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 9:40pm

Stheno wrote: »

If kiwis win this, then it's all over.

Do both teams have to finish in forty minutes does anyone know?

Oracle now over a minute and 45 seconds behind haven't yet hit the second mark.

eh, I like racing in light airs. GO team oracle (for this race :-/)

With normal racing rules only one boat has to finish in the time limit for there to be a finish awarded...

neris · 20-09-2013 9:51pm

Some very weird sounds coming off the mics on lads on the grinders. Sounds like their not grinding but brought the wife in instead

Stheno · 20-09-2013 9:54pm

Predictions are that this race will run out of time, but the wind is supposed to pick up for the second race

neris · 20-09-2013 9:57pm

Larry elison has some scandal on mother nature & has the pics to prove it

Stheno · 20-09-2013 10:00pm

abandoned

The language was interesting from the kiwis!

neris · 20-09-2013 10:02pm

Quote of the day. "****in arseholes"

Inquitus · 20-09-2013 10:02pm

Lets be honest unless Race 2 goes beyond the timelimit Oracle have no chance in these light winds.

neris · 20-09-2013 10:04pm

Stheno wrote: »

The language was interesting from the kiwis!

That was tame

Stheno · 20-09-2013 10:05pm

neris wrote: »

That was tame

Funny though

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 10:06pm

fcuking wifi **** **** work fffs

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 10:09pm

Ray Davies - "stop asking me f****** stupid questions"

I want one of those flip-down tablet thingies for when I do pit/nav!

neris · 20-09-2013 10:24pm

That interview with dean barker & spithill is getting tedious now

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 10:28pm

neris wrote: »

That interview with dean barker & spithill is getting tedious now

First time I've seen it

But what struck me (not having watched any of this before tonight, mind you, so forgive me) was that I really don't understand how these mad multihulls work - I can barely, if at all, tell if they're going up- or downwind :eek:

That brief shot of the Aussie guy when they were all 18 (missed the year) on the monohull with a spinny flying makes me wish that they'd do this on "normal boats", I for one would find it much more entertaining (given that sailing is the least spectator-friendly sport I can think of!)

neris · 20-09-2013 10:33pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

That brief shot of the Aussie guy when they were all 18 (missed the year) on the monohull with a spinny flying makes me wish that they'd do this on "normal boats", I for one would find it much more entertaining (given that sailing is the least spectator-friendly sport I can think of!)

Aw no those iacc boats were just bigger pigz then the 12s. The best thing one of those yokes ever did was crack in half in the 95 cup in the middle of the race.

Stheno · 20-09-2013 10:33pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

First time I've seen it

But what struck me (not having watched any of this before tonight, mind you, so forgive me) was that I really don't understand how these mad multihulls work - I can barely, if at all, tell if they're going up- or downwind :eek:

That brief shot of the Aussie guy when they were all 18 (missed the year) on the monohull with a spinny flying makes me wish that they'd do this on "normal boats", I for one would find it much more entertaining (given that sailing is the least spectator-friendly sport I can think of!)

They do those interviews after every race, they are a bit tedious.

I'd have no idea if they were up or downwind if it weren't for the commentary

Anyway start of race two and they are getting better speed.

Go NZ!

neris · 20-09-2013 10:34pm

Sweet start tnz nice driving

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 10:36pm

Stheno wrote: »

They do those interviews after every race, they are a bit tedious.

I'd have no idea if they were up or downwind if it weren't for the commentary

Anyway start of race two and they are getting better speed.

Go NZ!

I was reading that once they start foiling the difference in the apparent wind angle when going upwind versus downwind is only 4 degrees....

Stheno · 20-09-2013 10:38pm

Feck valid protest by the Americans?

Yup

errlloyd · 20-09-2013 10:42pm

Wow. Awesome end to that leg. Thought the protest was wrong though.

neris · 20-09-2013 10:43pm

Stheno wrote: »

Feck valid protest by the Americans?

Yup

When u saw, the on board shot didn't look like kiwis were wrong but helicopter shot showed big direction change by oracle

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 10:44pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Wow. Awesome end to that leg. Thought the protest was wrong though.

It's so hard to call from footage... when I saw it first I was a bit like "ah he just threw the helm over so he COULD protest"... but camera angles are a funny thing

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 10:46pm

more of those dodgy noises!

Stheno · 20-09-2013 10:47pm

miss no stars wrote: »

more of those dodgy noises!

They are worse than usual, and in addition to usual, there is some severe heavy breathing (least that's what it sounds like) that is audible.

neris · 20-09-2013 10:50pm

Wonder what "interesting" rte people are, being interviewed on late late. Who ever they are im sure there not worth turning this off for

errlloyd · 20-09-2013 10:55pm

Here can someone clarify. This was best of 17, but because USA losses two points new Zealand only actually need 8 to win it. Did they change it to first to 9.

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 10:59pm

yes. if they need to do 2 extra races they will

Stheno · 20-09-2013 11:00pm

Good race by Oracle

neris · 20-09-2013 11:03pm

Feckin hell. You wouldn't want to have a social life on a friday or saturday night for this

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 11:04pm

I'm RO tomorrow for DBSC.... it'll seem very tame in comparison

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 11:08pm

Holy God - day 11 :eek:

4 day regattas on amateur yachts knocks the stuffing out of me! I'd be worn out being a spectator at that, never mind a sailor :eek:

Stheno · 20-09-2013 11:10pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Holy God - day 11 :eek:

4 day regattas on amateur yachts knocks the stuffing out of me! I'd be worn out being a spectator at that, never mind a sailor :eek:

I was thinking about this earlier, from what I can work out, they race about 4 miles per leg, so that's approx 15-20 miles per race, in forty minutes.

And the way they seem to just hop across the boat makes it look easy, until you remember they are running the distance of a tennis court each time

neris · 20-09-2013 11:10pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Holy God - day 11 :eek:

4 day regattas on amateur yachts knocks the stuffing out of me! I'd be worn out being a spectator at that, never mind a sailor :eek:

They don't go drinking after though

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 11:11pm

neris wrote: »

They don't go drinking after though

:pac::pac::pac:

True enough......

neris · 20-09-2013 11:13pm

Stheno wrote: »

I was thinking about this earlier, from what I can work out, they race about 4 miles per leg, so that's approx 15-20 miles per race, in forty minutes.

And the way they seem to just hop across the boat makes it look easy, until you remember they are running the distance of a tennis court each time

They race the equivilant or longer of the longest course possible in howth on a wednesday night which is around 10nm not sure dbsc longest course

errlloyd · 20-09-2013 11:14pm

I love how much sky big up sports. In analysis they have it marked as the "pivotal penalty" the penalty meant nothing at all!!

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 11:14pm

neris wrote: »

They race the equivilant or longer of the longest course possible in howth on a wednesday night which is around 10nm not sure dbsc longest course

Not sure about evening racing, but the longest Saturday courses are about 13 miles. I don't think I've ever sent any fleet on one of those.

Stheno · 20-09-2013 11:15pm

neris wrote: »

They race the equivilant or longer of the longest course possible in howth on a wednesday night which is around 10nm not sure dbsc longest course

Still amazing that it's forty minutes that it takes them

In light wind!

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 11:16pm

errlloyd wrote: »

I love how much sky big up sports. In analysis they have it marked as the "pivotal penalty" the penalty meant nothing at all!!

easier to blame it on that than go into what actually went wrong...

errlloyd · 20-09-2013 11:19pm

They were going "slowly" downwind at 20 knots. I've never been out in anything bigger than an SB20, but I'd fairly sure I've never sailed 20 knots.

miss no stars · 20-09-2013 11:23pm

got to get a J80 up on a plane in about 20-25kts of wind once, definitely was doing in excess of 20 knots... Was an experience for certain. Can't imagine what 50kts is like.

errlloyd · 20-09-2013 11:28pm

Well when those guys are foiling on the windward hull at 40 kts, they're probably 7 or 8 metres off the water.... I'd say it feels more like flying than sailing....

Stheno · 20-09-2013 11:29pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Well when those guys are foiling on the windward hull at 40 kts, they're probably 7 or 8 metres off the water.... I'd say it feels more like flying than sailing....

I watch them running across the boat at those speeds and am just amazed.

HeidiHeidi · 20-09-2013 11:55pm

What time is kickoff tomorrow? Might have to tune in again, that was good crack tonight!

neris · 21-09-2013 12:05am

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

What time is kickoff tomorrow? Might have to tune in again, that was good crack tonight!

coverage starts ats 9pm race is off bout 915

neris · 21-09-2013 1:14pm

Today, in what looked to be the last race of the America's Cup, Emirates Team New Zealand was enjoying a lead approaching a while in light winds. Just minutes from the finish line, the race comittee signaled a race abandonment. Profanity was heard on board the New Zealand boat as they started preparing for the second race of the day.

In an after race interview with Larry Ellison we found out just why Oracle Team USA has seemed to have been living a charmed life over the last several days.

Gary Jobson:
"Larry, it's been amazing in the last serveral days. Races called off for too much wind while you were losing. Races abandoned because they were past the time limit. This string of luck just can't continue. Do you have any comments?"

Larry Ellison:
"Well Gary, we knew the luck was going to sling our way. Just a couple days ago we added a new team member to the payroll. He's a creative guy and he's really given us an edge in every area - design, wind prediction, he's really been instrumental to our recent success."

Gary:
"We haven't seen any new sailors on board. Who is he?"

Larry Ellison:
"God."

Gary:
"Excuse me?"

Larry Ellison:
"God. I mean, money really isn't an object, because I'm Larry Ellison. I had his direct number. We concluded the deal in just a couple minutes. He did mention that he's been wanting to talk to the New Zealanders for a while but really hasn't had a chance."

Gary:
"Really?"

Larry Ellison:
"Yeah. Something about them and their sheep. No idea what that's about."

Gary:
"I see....."Quote

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