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Ska reccomendations

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  • #52
    Chewabacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Chewabacca


    Ro: maaan! wrote: »
    Vandls are "kind of ska" and Operation Ivy "have some ska elements"? Get the boat. Vandals are top cock, but I've never heard any ska in there. And Operation Ivy have more than just some elements of ska. And where the **** does Green Day come into it?

    I just thought that maybe with his description of what he wanted something like The Vandals might suit him more than the kind of ska he was looking for.

    I mentioned Green Day because Dookie is widely regarded as the best punk album of the era and I mentioned that I prefer Energy just to show how highly I think of the album.

    What was the problem with mentioning Green Day anyway? Did I break some unwritten rule that they shant be mentioned unless they are the topic of the thread?


  • #53
    Ro: maaan!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Ro: maaan!


    Chewabacca wrote: »

    What was the problem with mentioning Green Day anyway? Did I break some unwritten rule that they shant be mentioned unless they are the topic of the thread?

    No. Just thought it was a strange one to compare it to.


  • #54
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    Chewabacca wrote: »
    I just thought that maybe with his description of what he wanted something like The Vandals might suit him more than the kind of ska he was looking for.

    I mentioned Green Day because Dookie is widely regarded as the best punk album of the era and I mentioned that I prefer Energy just to show how highly I think of the album.

    What was the problem with mentioning Green Day anyway? Did I break some unwritten rule that they shant be mentioned unless they are the topic of the thread?

    i think his issue is with the clear exception of op iv, which is pretty much the forerunnner of ska punk. the vandals and green day are pop punk, and if one is a fan of ska punk like myself, i get slightly irate when people hear a poppy song with three chords and a bit of cursing, and call it ska punk... ska punk is a very defined style, whist pop punk is...well i dont know what it is


  • #55
    Chewabacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Chewabacca


    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    i think his issue is with the clear exception of op iv, which is pretty much the forerunnner of ska punk. the vandals and green day are pop punk, and if one is a fan of ska punk like myself, i get slightly irate when people hear a poppy song with three chords and a bit of cursing, and call it ska punk... ska punk is a very defined style, whist pop punk is...well i dont know what it is

    I know I was wrong to refer to The Vandals as Ska in any way I just thought that because of the description of what he wanted he might like The Vandals. The thing is I have a hard time calling Op Ivy ska because, although they had a huge, incomparable influence on ska and punk, they don't have any of original ska's characteristics. What I call ska consists of things like the upstrokes on guitar.

    And for the record I'm not trying to recommend Green Day in any way just used Dookie as a reference because I consider Dookie(their only really good album IMO) the best punk album after energy, regardless of what type of punk.


  • #56
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyNEBSsd3Gw

    unity

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVtG0J4k3O4

    take warning

    not ska???


    i'm not dissing green day, dookie is quite good, i also like(d) the vandals.


  • #57
    Chewabacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Chewabacca


    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyNEBSsd3Gw

    unity

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVtG0J4k3O4

    take warning

    not ska???


    i'm not dissing green day, dookie is quite good, i also like(d) the vandals.

    I know the songs, no need to send links.

    They do have some ska songs like bad town and take warning but i wouldnt class unity as ska, my reason being what does it have in common with original jamaican ska? Absolutely nothing.

    I'm afraid we're going to have to stop this because, as a great man once said, "the thing about arguing over the internet is, no matter who wins the argument, you're both losers".

    I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I wouldn't necessarily class them as ska.


  • #58
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    Chewabacca wrote: »
    I know the songs, no need to send links.

    They do have some ska songs like bad town and take warning but i wouldnt class unity as ska, my reason being what does it have in common with original jamaican ska? Absolutely nothing.

    I'm afraid we're going to have to stop this because, as a great man once said, "the thing about arguing over the internet is, no matter who wins the argument, you're both losers".

    I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I wouldn't necessarily class them as ska.

    You need to do some homework on ska before you start saying that certain well known ska bands aren't ska. There are different "waves" of ska, Operation Ivy fall into the third wave. Although I think more specifically they would be defined as ska punk.


  • #59
    darealtulip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    Chewabacca wrote: »
    What was the problem with mentioning Green Day anyway? Did I break some unwritten rule that they shant be mentioned unless they are the topic of the thread?

    Except that they are really sh*t nothing.

    The Vandals are indeed a very good band and I find it insulting it is compared with the comercial cr*p that is greenday.

    Operation Ivy rules aswell, seriously good!
    Oh and try Mark Foggo up tempo second wave ska!! (specailly the album Speeding My Life Away)


  • #60
    Star Bingo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    darealtulip wrote: »
    Except that they are really sh*t nothing.

    and for children. i don't see little billy bob shotgunning himself to D because he became a mainstream joke.. frightening thing is, there will be old folks in 2060 claiming they were 'punks'. thats when the lines get blurred and it DEFEATS the means. the fact a green day thread is consistently top of this forum is such an example.


    even with 'american idiot', they can't not celebrating an idyllic vision of being an american teenager. and if the support bill is as has been mooted, that will be reinforced.

    most Ska-punk to me is no different. no agenda.


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  • #61
    darealtulip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    Star Bingo wrote: »
    and for children. i don't see little billy bob shotgunning himself to D because he became a mainstream joke.. frightening thing is, there will be old folks in 2060 claiming they were 'punks'. thats when the lines get blurred and it DEFEATS the means. the fact a green day thread is consistently top of this forum is such an example.


    even with 'american idiot', they can't not celebrating an idyllic vision of being an american teenager. and if the support bill is as has been mooted, that will be reinforced.

    most Ska-punk to me is no different. no agenda.

    +1 except for the ska punk bit.


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