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29 degrees possible May 28th.

  • 27-05-2020 11:25am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭


    Temperatures into the high 20s possible tomorrow in the west of Connaught according to Met Eireann.


    TOMORROW - Thursday 28th May

    Tomorrow, Thursday will be a warm day and locally it will feel hot. It will be dry and sunny widely
    and winds will be light to moderate from a southeast direction, locally fresh. Temperatures will be
    25 degrees in the afternoon widely across the province,
    and as high as 29 degrees in local spots in the west of the province.


    could we reach 30? whats the record high for May in Ireland.

    What ever happens tommorow looks sweltering in the west.Bring it on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Tomorrow is the 28th but yes, BRING IT ON!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Wikipedia has 28.4c as the record for May though lots of Mays seem hot at the end


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I think 26 will probably be the max, maybe a 27C at Shannon Airport or Oak Park. Most of the models are going for 22 to 25C Thursday, Friday and Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    I'd be surprised if it reached 29c tomorrow. EPS max for tomorrow only going for around a 26c:

    Czh5dSg.png

    So maybe a 27c or 28c (which I think is still pushing it) at best?

    I haven't looked at what the Harmonie (which M.E refer too) is showing regarding tomorrow's temps, but it is worth remembering that this model really over estimated daily maxima during the June 2018 heatwave. At one point, it had me down for a 37c! Needless to say, that did not happen because it was never going to happen.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    One thing to remember is the ground is very dry at the moment which means that the sunlight energy will heat the bottom few meters of the atmosphere easier than it would if the ground was damp - and thus soaking up the available energy. My 10am readings of the soil temperatures have seen a 1c increase this morning at 10cm depth. Yesterday it was 17c, this morning 18c. It is incredible to see how the soils are heating up now! The next day or two look prime for temperatures to hit 28c in selected areas, in my opinion!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,325 ✭✭✭highdef


    Danno wrote: »
    One thing to remember is the ground is very dry at the moment which means that the sunlight energy will heat the bottom few meters of the atmosphere easier than it would if the ground was damp - and thus soaking up the available energy. My 10am readings of the soil temperatures have seen a 1c increase this morning at 10cm depth. Yesterday it was 17c, this morning 18c. It is incredible to see how the soils are heating up now! The next day or two look prime for temperatures to hit 28c in selected areas, in my opinion!

    Good point!!! The depth of dryness in the soil combined with the sun getting ever closer to maximum strength means that evenings and nights have the potential to be rather warm for the rest of the week, where there is little or no wind. Like a stone wall that has been absorbing heat from the sun all day which then radiates the heat after the sun sets, the ground is becoming deeply warm and that too will radiate the heat stored during the day but on a much much bigger scale, in an almost continental climate fashion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,930 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    I hate this forum. I'm working from home on a scorcher of a day and I can't even bring the office outside due to glare on the screen. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    I hate this forum. I'm working from home on a scorcher of a day and I can't even bring the office outside due to glare on the screen. :D

    :D

    I presume turning the screen brightness up doesn't help?

    If ok with the OP can we use this as a prediction thread for the highest peak and location?

    I'm going with Claremorris on Thursday 28.0C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Ok Newport 28.4c to equal Wikileaks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if it reached 29c tomorrow. EPS max for tomorrow only going for around a 26c:

    So maybe a 27c or 28c (which I think is still pushing it) at best?

    I haven't looked at what the Harmonie (which M.E refer too) is showing regarding tomorrow's temps, but it is worth remembering that this model really over estimated daily maxima during the June 2018 heatwave. At one point, it had me down for a 37c! Needless to say, that did not happen because it was never going to happen.

    I remember 29C being forecast for 29 May 2018 from it.. we know how that turned out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,930 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I remember 30C being forecast for 29 May 2018 from it.. we know how that turned out.

    Remind us.


    I go with 26.4 for North Kerry


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I remember 30C being forecast for 29 May 2018 from it.. we know how that turned out.

    it was almost comical except I wasn't laughing, close to +20C uppers and barely 15C on the ground!

    edit: I was thinking about the June 2019 plume failure. From memory end of May 2018 wasn't that warm on the east coast with a stiff onshore wind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Gonzo wrote: »
    it was almost comical except I wasn't laughing, close to +20C uppers and barely 15C on the ground!

    edit: I was thinking about the June 2019 plume failure. From memory end of May 2018 wasn't that warm on the east coast with a stiff onshore wind.

    That's a different kettle of fish :pac:
    Remind us.


    I go with 26.4 for North Kerry

    It was the only thing that suggested even close to 29C (correction on the 30C) on that day in May 2018 and the official highest temperature was 26.5C at Glenties, Donegal. Can't find the screenshot although it was posted in the Spring 2018 thread somewhere.
    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Nowhere else other than their temperature map suggests temperatures even close to 29c on Tuesday.

    For instance, here's their old temperature map.

    c5ADGUm.png

    Also, their national forecast states high teens to low 20s at best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Danno wrote: »
    One thing to remember is the ground is very dry at the moment which means that the sunlight energy will heat the bottom few meters of the atmosphere easier than it would if the ground was damp - and thus soaking up the available energy. My 10am readings of the soil temperatures have seen a 1c increase this morning at 10cm depth. Yesterday it was 17c, this morning 18c. It is incredible to see how the soils are heating up now! The next day or two look prime for temperatures to hit 28c in selected areas, in my opinion!

    Washed the concrete path that runs along the back of my house this morning, and it is still wet, suggesting that out of the sun (which the path has been all day) drying is actually quite poor today.

    I think one thing to consider for tomorrow temp potential is that pressure will be declining to the east, which could mean that a fair breeze could be springing up during the day which could prevent temps from rising as high as the forecast 29c. Forecast chart for tomorrow around the time, or shortly before, temps are expected to peak:

    RUbpvTX.png


    During the 3 days of 30c + back in late June 2018, it also got very breezy during the afternoon, but the air mass was drier and the sun stronger which would have allowed temps to climb as high as they did during that spell.

    All up for grabs tomorrow me thinks. I'm sceptical but who knows. Also, seems to be a bit of shear going on tomorrow so chance of a surprise shower bubbling up if temps do climb sufficiently?

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Met Eireann's 'Yesterday's Weather' report for that day Syran:

    hHm8DuY.png

    And their badly missed weather map showing the set up:

    Jn9ppQw.png

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,320 ✭✭✭davo2001


    Got up to 26.4 for me at my weather station today, oddly enough, not an overly sunny day, pretty overcast.

    https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IBALLI26


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Any chance of some sparks in the next few days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Tomorrow afternoon's temperature anomaly forecast from the latest model run:

    XdzucxA.png

    Warm everywhere, but if 29c is to be achieved, it'll most likely be somewhere within that darkest red region on that map.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Back at the end of June 2018, when Shannon carpark hit 32.0 °C, afternoon 500-1000 thickness was around 569 dam and 850 temperature 16 °C. The next warmest synop station that day was Gurteen, which hit 29.9 °C.

    Tomorrow looks more like 560 dam and 13-14 °C T850. A southeasterly flow will make warmest areas more up towards the northwestern midlands. Various sounding indicate 25-27 possible at a couple of stations (Mount Dillon, Claremorris, etc.) but that's at a stretch, relying on the feedback from dry ground to get the extra degree or two. It will be an interesting one to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,067 ✭✭✭✭neris


    I hate this forum. I'm working from home on a scorcher of a day and I can't even bring the office outside due to glare on the screen. :D

    bring back giant ledgers & the quill & ink


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    pauldry wrote: »
    Ok Newport 28.4c to equal Wikileaks

    Newport Furnace for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    A 27c+ is likely in Connaught particularly toward the west.

    How widespread remains to be seen.

    Friday will be very warm to with mid 20's generally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,131 ✭✭✭John mac


    Newport for me and 27.8°


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Close to 20°c at 9am here in South Laois


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Danno wrote: »
    Close to 20°c at 9am here in South Laois

    Bit of a SE breeze going, and temperatures holding just below 20°c


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    20.0c now in Dublin 16. Light east breeze, so I don't foresee any dramatic temps here today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭pauldry


    20.9c Valentia 10pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Temperature forecast for 5pm this afternoon, and not just any old temperature forecast, but a 'flex scale' one... whatever in the name of God that is. Seems to be a good indicator though of temp distributions:

    zuxzHLK.png

    I'll go with 27.1c in Newport, but am uncomfortable with such a high figure.

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Temperature forecast for 5pm this afternoon, and not just any old temperature forecast, but a 'flex scale' one... whatever in the name of God that is. Seems to be a good indicator though of temp distributions:



    I'll go with 27.1c in Newport, but am uncomfortable with such a high figure.

    It just means that the coloured scale on the bottom only ranges from the lowest to the highest values within the area shown in the map. It changes as you move or zoom in or out. It allows much higher-resolution colour shading on the chart.

    I agree with you on the such a high figure. I don't think 27.0 will be reached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭pauldry


    22c Mt Dillon 11am


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    the forecasts and models were always going for max 26, maybe hinting at 27C. Not sure where the 29C came from, that would be an incredible temperature to reach and records would be broken. 26 or 27C in May is still a fantastic achievement for Irish weather in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    22 C at Shannon and Costume Baracks (Athlone) at 11.30. Costume baracks will be interesting to watch as it's located in the centre of the town and more representative of an urban area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Temperature forecast for 5pm this afternoon, and not just any old temperature forecast, but a 'flex scale' one... whatever in the name of God that is. Seems to be a good indicator though of temp distributions:

    It has me at 21°c max, but already 23°c here in south Laois!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    21.5C a short time ago here near Tralee.

    Cloud around 5/8


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Yup my 28.4c prediction way over the top

    Probably mount Dillon will top whatever they get 26 or 27.

    Other parts of west might touch 26


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    22 C at Shannon and Costume Baracks (Athlone) at 11.30. Costume baracks will be interesting to watch as it's located in the centre of the town and more representative of an urban area.

    With the breeze today why would Athlone would have any different temperatures than surrounding rural areas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Mount Dillon 23 at midday. All others 22 or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Neddyusa wrote: »
    With the breeze today why would Athlone would have any different temperatures than surrounding rural areas?

    It depends on how much the breeze gets up. At the moment it's southeast 6 knots there.

    It's a large concreted area in an urban setting so more in line with many people's locations. With a southeasterly or easterly breeze it gets air from an urban source.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4244003,-7.9478849,306m/data=!3m1!1e3


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Regardsgreen


    Mount Dillon 23 at midday. All others 22 or less.

    Belmullet is 23.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Belmullet is 23.

    Sorry, you're right, it's 22.5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Sorry, you're right, it's 22.5.

    Newport "only" 21c but watch Newport make a comeback. Its often warmer there as some of the rest cool. 23.9c yesterday....they might still get over 26.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Hovering between 22°c and 23°c the last while now in a 10mph southeasterly. South Laois.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    It just means that the coloured scale on the bottom only ranges from the lowest to the highest values within the area shown in the map. It changes as you move or zoom in or out. It allows much higher-resolution colour shading on the chart.

    I agree with you on the such a high figure. I don't think 27.0 will be reached.

    Thanks GL, and that makes sense. Wouldn't you think that this glaring obviousness would have registered in my brain?

    @ Danno, I think that those same charts had higher temperatures for you earlier in the day before the body of warmth shifted somewhat more northwards as per that 5pm chart. The reason I posted that particular one is because maxima tends to peak around that time at this time of year.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,930 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    23 at noon today.
    North Kerry.
    Getting cloudy now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Gone above 23°c now and the breeze has dropped slightly here in south Laois.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    And all of a shot 24°c reached just on the stroke of 1pm!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Warm weather is cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    1 pm:

    24 °C - Shannon, Costume Baracks, Belmullet, Claremorris, Mount Dillon,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    1 pm:

    24 °C - Shannon, Costume Baracks, Belmullet, Claremorris, Mount Dillon,

    I can confirm it is roasting on south mayo
    Heavenly


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