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NXT Thread *SPOILERS*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    J. Marston wrote: »
    I hope Iconic get called up. Any of the snippets I see of them, they can actually do comedy which is a serious rarity in WWE and more so in the women's division.

    They’ve basically been written out of NXT so you’d expect they will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    sky88 wrote: »
    Wouldnt be suprised if sanity gets called up too

    Seeing Nikki Cross being unleashed on the main roster will be fun


  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭nazmoalex


    Woah did not see that coming in the Dusty Classic. One match in and the go home show already tops RAW and Smackdown


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    nazmoalex wrote: »
    Woah did not see that coming in the Dusty Classic. One match in and the go home show already tops RAW and Smackdown

    Not being smart or anything, but it's not hard for NXT to top the main roster, an example the TakeOvers before big PPV shows. Plus they only have an hour of TV a week, so no time really for filler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Not being smart or anything, but it's not hard for NXT to top the main roster, an example the TakeOvers before big PPV shows. Plus they only have an hour of TV a week, so no time really for filler.

    theyve also time to edit if anything is terrible as well as re taping stuff on the night of the tapngs


  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭nazmoalex


    Both very good points. In fairness the majority of the rest of the show was just video packages. Impressed with how they have booked the tag team title match considering the injury to one of the champs.
    Post was more a reflection of how disappointed I was with the go home shows on the main roster. As a casual NXT fan, the last show has me up to speed on everything. I don't know if you could say the same for Raw at least. Smackdown was slightly better, but still poor enough in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'd say that tag match change was more to lighten the load for Cole.

    I know people have commented on non UK wrestlers fighting the UK champ in title matches, so find it funny that the first North American champion could be from Belfast.

    I know it's the point of developmental, but AoP have improved a lot from when they first arrived. Was kinda strange seeing them against their partner from War Games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Debut to happen yet but name change for
    War Machine
    . Will now be known as
    War Raiders

    Was sure when EC3 appeared that they were changing his name from how he pointed to the screen for each character. Thought they would then change to his new name, like Balor's (I think)did.

    So when are the matches taped due this week? Is it before or after Takeover. Just if before and since they have the preshow, obviously it means even earlier than the preshow


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Wrong thread...


  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭Ali Bomaye


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Debut to happen yet but name change for
    War Machine
    . Will now be known as
    War Raiders

    Was sure when EC3 appeared that they were changing his name from how he pointed to the screen for each character. Thought they would then change to his new name, like Balor's (I think)did.

    So when are the matches taped due this week? Is it before or after Takeover. Just if before and since they have the preshow, obviously it means even earlier than the preshow

    The pre show for Takeovers don't be live. They do the pre show, then the matches for tv before Takeover.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,883 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    So far as of 10th April 2018 NXT has lost the following stars to the main roster

    Raw- AOP, Ember Moon and No Way Jose
    SD- will find out tonight, Almas is a cert to move up

    Obv still a lot of talent on the NXT roster but come 2019/2020 who else is there when some guys like Black, Gargano,Ciampa, Undisputed Era, Ricochet among others move up to the main roster. Can we see the Independents/Lucha Underground/NJPW been looked at some of them brought into NXT in the coming months/year

    Any predictions of who NXT will sign for the future ???


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    The current cycle and system will continue. NXT thrives on matches that can only happen there (in WWE) and may never happen again in that way. They will use people they develop and people from outside to keep it fresh.

    Likes of Thatcher, Riddle, Lee, Yehi and Theory will all be on the radar as they are with Evolve.

    Penta and Fenix will be looked at to fill the buzz roles but perhaps with no real main roster ambition from the start.

    Ladies would be Toni Storm and Deonna.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    The winner of the uk tournament at royal Albert Hall will face Pete Dunne the following night for the UK championship.

    The first night will feature Pete Dunne and moustache mountain versus undisputed era.

    And over the course of the 2 nights all nxt titles will be defended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Nixon newell had her first match after her injury and she tagged with Dakota Kai. I've seen good things about her and watched a documentary where she fought candice LeRae, and she's only 22 and I could be wrong but I think she could be huge in WWE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    I like what I’ve seen of her, which isn’t much, saw her in OTT once or twice and just a few clips of other matches. She seems to have a good personality and she’s a good looking girl too so there’s a lot of potential there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Going by the photos with the matching ring gear, it looks like the team isn't a once off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Going by the photos with the matching ring gear, it looks like the team isn't a once off

    I saw that. Wonder if they’re planning a women’s tag division?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Who would be the ready-made teams for a women's tag division?

    Iconic duo.
    Mandy and Sonya.
    Riot Squad could do a New Day thing.
    Alexa and Mickie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I was saying about the women's tag division before. I'd say would be limited to NXT. Main roster men's tag division isn't exactly treated well so the women's would go the way of TNA's.

    As for the teams, Dakota/Newell is the only one for now. Billie/Peyton would be the only other pair and they're gone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Yeah I expect it could be a case of throwing two women together initially for a lot of teams if they were thinking of doing it. I don’t think there are many defined women’s tag teams even on the indies. It’s kind of a logical future development for WWE if they are treating the women the same as the men though. Maybe also a secondary women’s title eventually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭A Rogue Hobo


    Big fan of Nixon Newell, great wrestler and gorgeous to boot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    Pentecost wrote: »
    Yeah I expect it could be a case of throwing two women together initially for a lot of teams if they were thinking of doing it. I don’t think there are many defined women’s tag teams even on the indies. It’s kind of a logical future development for WWE if they are treating the women the same as the men though. Maybe also a secondary women’s title eventually.

    I think a tag title scene for women would be a nice change of pace. Not every woman signed to NXT will get the shining light put on them like Ember, Shayna, Asuka, Bayley, Charlotte, Sasha did, so why waste most of them, the one's who are talented enough should be able to pick up on WWE style quick enough and get used to how WWE film things. You have a few women on the main roster that could do with a boost also main eventers who will need a few months out of the title scene.

    You never know you might have a few that might break out from tag team division that might become the female Bret Hart, HBK or Edge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    That's just it. They need the opportunity to show what they can do on tv. Also there's always the feud when a partner turns on the other.
    The fact we may see some of the women once per taping means we kinda forget about them.
    On another note, now with ember gone, who do we think will go for the title? Nicki, if not called up? Be fun watching Shayna try to ground her. Start a build for Candice?
    I assume the next tapings are done, but I won't be looking at those results.

    The North American title has their competitors already in place. Drew will probably come back to face Black for the NXT title.

    Undisputed Era I guess will be involved in a feud with Pete Dunne/Moustache Mountain, with Roddy taking the place of Cole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Once again I'm thinking it'd be great if promotions at work were the same as NXT.
    "Ember, Andrade, Authors of Pain, you all failed at your assigned tasks so we're going to promote you".

    Meant to say last week that I had to laugh at Mauro really trying to get the point across that War Machine were now known as War Raiders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Once again I'm thinking it'd be great if promotions at work were the same as NXT.
    "Ember, Andrade, Authors of Pain, you all failed at your assigned tasks so we're going to promote you".

    Meant to say last week that I had to laugh at Mauro really trying to get the point across that War Machine were now known as War Raiders.

    Was Owens the only champion from NXT to be called up?

    Think they should try it with someone else just to change it up a bit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Was Owens the only champion from NXT to be called up?

    Think they should try it with someone else just to change it up a bit.

    Paige also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Asuka relinquished the title as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So since the shakeup was about exchanging superstars, I have to ask why NXT didn't get anyone in exchange for Almas, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Ricochet, EC3 and War Raiders have all just had tv debuts. I guess you could count them as replacements. NXT is the starting point though from WWE’s point of view, so no trade needed. It’s properly separate from Raw and SD. I feel like they could’ve had Sanity just hit the ring for their debut and start with an impact rather than a simple graphic. Almas/Vega getting a vignette was alright though.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    So since the shakeup was about exchanging superstars, I have to ask why NXT didn't get anyone in exchange for Almas, etc.

    And there’s plenty of dead wood on the roster they could easily have sent a few down to help fill the roster with more experienced wrestlers.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Loughc wrote: »
    And there’s plenty of dead wood on the roster they could easily have sent a few down to help fill the roster with more experienced wrestlers.

    NXT is all about the buzz of people who are 'new'. I don't think dead wood would help there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Ricochet, EC3 and War Raiders have all just had tv debuts. I guess you could count them as replacements. NXT is the starting point though from WWE’s point of view, so no trade needed. It’s properly separate from Raw and SD. I feel like they could’ve had Sanity just hit the ring for their debut and start with an impact rather than a simple graphic. Almas/Vega getting a vignette was alright though.

    I know it's a starting point but storywise, it seems NXT just gave away their talented performers with nothing in return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    DM_7 wrote: »
    NXT is all about the buzz of people who are 'new'. I don't think dead wood would help there.

    Look at what was done with Tyson Kidd in NXT though, coming out of NXT was the only time in his career he had any buzz

    Nobody gives a damn about Ziggler on the main roster for instance, he'd be great for someone like Velveteen Dream to face


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    DM_7 wrote: »
    NXT is all about the buzz of people who are 'new'. I don't think dead wood would help there.

    But they wouldn’t be dead wood in NXT. They could be given a pivotal spot and built up to the point where the audience cares about them again.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    When NXT have just put on that PPV show I can't see any reason to have it as a place to rejuvinate performers.

    Young guys like Drew or ECIII can go away and make themselves valuable.

    When they can keep the shows genuinely fresh by turning over new talent they should keep doing it. Any attempt to put tired performers in there would make NXT look second rate.

    Right now they have something great going but moving people worthy of term dead wood to NXT in 2018 would damage it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    NXT this week promoting their women, but still some I can't take seriously, like Aaliyah and Vanessa Borne. I do like the intimidation Shayna brings. Wonder who'll dethrone her. Any time I'm trying to remember Dakota Kai's name, I keep getting mixed up with Cobra Kai.

    As for the main event, better it went that way than have Johnny lose another title match. Though when was Black planning on going to the ring if he was outside?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Bianca Belair showing her strength again. And storyline carried on into that match made it acceptable result.

    Dakota is getting a lot of exposure lately, if only to help sell Shayna's intimidation. Speaking of Shayna, surprised Kairi's opponent was left with such a similar name and Alexa's former gimmick.

    Guess it's not Moustache Mountain helping Pete after all. And Undisputed Era will need to update their logo.

    As for Kona Reeves, I think the promo videos shouldn't have mentioned how he's back. I don't remember him from before and I don't think too many do. He wouldn't be the first guy to disappear from tv and come back repackaged.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Not been following much recently, but whats the card looking like for the next Takeover?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    The last Takeover card only really took shape 2 or 3 weeks out from the event so maybe find out on the next couple of weeks.
    I haven't read any of the taping results so there may be some hint there of what matches we'll have.

    This week had Velveteen Dream vs Richochet. It was slow moving and one part seemed very choreographed with how slow they were going through each motion. But seems it was just building to the ending and setting up next week's match


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    So there's 5 matches normally, haven't looked at the tapings but
    at the moment the card they look like they're teasing is:
    • Gargano vs. Ciampa 2, could be a Chicago street fight based on the location.
    • Ricochet vs. Dream has been building too. So I've got to imagine that's the feud.
    • After Lars interfering and mentioning the NXT title so many times and commentary putting it over so much I'm assuming that will be Black's match.
    • The women's match seems kinda weird cause they keep looking at Dakota Kai and how afraid she is of Shayna but they haven't really had much interaction worthy of a feud. Nikki Cross showed up again lately telling Kai to face her fear. Lots of time to build up the proper feud yet but I would be surprised if Kai and Shayna was the match. Wouldn't mind a multi-woman match with Kai, Kairi, Nikki and Shayna but they don't do multi-women title matches that often.
    • Not sure what the tag match is going to be. War Raiders maybe, although it seems a little early. Lorcan and Burch?
    • Surely the North American title is going to be defended too, not sure who that could be. Possibly Dunne.
    As Castor Troy said, sometimes these feuds start up last minute but so far I'm only positive about two of those matches. Surely EC3 won't be left off so recently after debuting.

    They're also at the point now where 4 of the usual 5 matches could be taken up by titles. Hard to call still, lots of solid possibilities though.

    Was there a rumour that Chicago could be a Wargames event? Maybe putting the TUE against people could condense the card so as not to include the North American or Tag titles.


    Anyone else have an idea of the card?

    Or for that matter does anyone have any thoughts about NXT Brooklyn, cause I'll be at that one so would love an idea


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,883 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    have a feeling we will see DIY back together in a year or 2 maybe on the main roster

    this current storyline is Awsome and both guys have bright futures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Ricochet's flip and land was spectacular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Pfft, sure that's how I always enter a room

    https://twitter.com/WWEPR/status/1002035761636610050

    Enjoyed the women's match as well as the post match.

    Maybe I just didn't notice in Impact, but EC3 is looking massive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So Takeover card so far:

    Johnny Gargano vs Tomaso Ciampa in a Chicago Street Fight
    Aleister Black vs Lars Sullivan for NXT Title
    Ricochet vs. Velveteen Dream
    The Undisputed Era (Kyle O'Reilly and Roderick Strong) vs Oney Lorcan and Danny Burch for tag titles

    And likely to have
    Nikki Cross vs Shayna Baszler for the women's NXT title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    So Takeover card so far:

    Johnny Gargano vs Tomaso Ciampa in a Chicago Street Fight
    Aleister Black vs Lars Sullivan for NXT Title
    Ricochet vs. Velveteen Dream
    The Undisputed Era (Kyle O'Reilly and Roderick Strong) vs Oney Lorcan and Danny Burch for tag titles

    And likely to have
    Nikki Cross vs Shayna Baszler for the women's NXT title.

    Ricochet vs Velveteen Dream has potential for a MOTY spot. Dream could be a legit superstar, great find from WWE. Ricochet is just awesome.

    Gargano vs Ciampa should be great, expect some tomfoolery to happen to cost Gargano. I'm expecting Ciampa to beat Black for the NXT Title somewhere down the line, Gargano probably feuds with someone else. Then Gargano vs Ciampa for NXT title with Gargano getting the title.

    I'm expecting either Candice to turn heel to cost him or EC3 seen as Gargano ran out during his match this week. I'm going more for the EC3 route. Gives Gargano someone to feud with for a Takeover or two.


    Black and The Undisputed Era matches feel like filler as does the Baszler match, still believe Kairi will take the title from her at Summerslam weekend Takeover. Which will lead hopefully down the line to a heel Io Shirai vs face Kairi at the takeover at WM weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,766 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Looper007 wrote: »
    Ricochet vs Velveteen Dream has potential for a MOTY spot. Dream could be a legit superstar, great find from WWE. Ricochet is just awesome.

    Gargano vs Ciampa should be great, expect some tomfoolery to happen to cost Gargano. I'm expecting Ciampa to beat Black for the NXT Title somewhere down the line, Gargano probably feuds with someone else. Then Gargano vs Ciampa for NXT title with Gargano getting the title.

    I'm expecting either Candice to turn heel to cost him or EC3 seen as Gargano ran out during his match this week. I'm going more for the EC3 route. Gives Gargano someone to feud with for a Takeover or two.


    Black and The Undisputed Era matches feel like filler as does the Baszler match, still believe Kairi will take the title from her at Summerslam weekend Takeover. Which will lead hopefully down the line to a heel Io Shirai vs face Kairi at the takeover at WM weekend.

    Yeah, as soon as Gargano came out during the EC3 match I figured he will cost Johnny the streetfight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,883 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Some of the NXT roster are at the download festival this weekend

    Bit odd they will be flying back to the usa after this and then some will be flying back for the 18th/19th UK tournament shows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Was funny seeing TM61 coming in the door in the background of the Lars training bit, seeing what was going on and leaving again.

    Reaction from Shayna when Nikki faked attacking her was cool. I've said before, but I'll admit to not liking Shayna when she was in the tournament, thinking she just got to the final due to who she was. It may be true but she has grown into a good heel.

    NXT must have the best male and female heels in WWE with Shayna and Ciampa. Both get booed due to their characters and actions. No cheap "Your town sucks" heat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,883 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Was funny seeing TM61 coming in the door in the background of the Lars training bit, seeing what was going on and leaving again.

    Reaction from Shayna when Nikki faked attacking her was cool. I've said before, but I'll admit to not liking Shayna when she was in the tournament, thinking she just got to the final due to who she was. It may be true but she has grown into a good heel.

    NXT must have the best male and female heels in WWE with Shayna and Ciampa. Both get booed due to their characters and actions. No cheap "Your town sucks" heat

    Prob Siad here loads of times bit It's the small full sail capacity crowd that makes this character's and that's why some don't transition well on the main roster

    Personally not a huge fan of the NXT fans, Bit condescending, grown men doing stupid dances/taunts and the stupid remarks but they add life to the show.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    But even then, you had the Ciampa/Gargano match at the last Takeover and Ciampa didn't need music. Was a much bigger venue but the boos and jeering were non stop.


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