Weather in the Media: TV, TABLOIDS etc.

Mobhi1 · 11-08-2018 2:33pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

Today's headline in the hysterical indo.

"The return of the heatwave? Temps to reach 22 degrees"

Then you read the article which says cool and wet except for a few hours here and there and realise the headline writer must have read something from June.

22 degrees is hardly a heatwave either.

zell12 · 13-08-2018 8:43am

zell12 · 22-09-2018 3:18pm

DailyMail - Britain could be set for FOUR MONTHS of snow in 'coldest winter for a decade'
The onset of an El Nino warming of the eastern Pacific Ocean and changes in air patterns over the tropics could also keep the country in freezing temperatures through December, January and February, Exacta Weather forecaster James Madden told the Daily Express.

CeilingFly · 22-09-2018 3:40pm

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail - Britain could be set for FOUR MONTHS of snow in 'coldest winter for a decade'
The onset of an El Nino warming of the eastern Pacific Ocean and changes in air patterns over the tropics could also keep the country in freezing temperatures through December, January and February, Exacta Weather forecaster James Madden told the Daily Express.

Ah James Madden, the guy that predicted the "Polar Vortex" in Dec 2014 and four weeks of a freeze.

He said similar for Last November and also in 2016. All dramatically wrong

Funny, he never predicted the snowfall of February & March this year.

I suppose on the odds of probability he'll be right some day.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/freak-polar-vortex-threatens-coldest-winter-in-50-years-30835845.html

ZX7R · 22-09-2018 3:42pm

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail - Britain could be set for FOUR MONTHS of snow in 'coldest winter for a decade'
The onset of an El Nino warming of the eastern Pacific Ocean and changes in air patterns over the tropics could also keep the country in freezing temperatures through December, January and February, Exacta Weather forecaster James Madden told the Daily Express.

Madden the mad man ,
that means a nice mild winter so

zell12 · 22-09-2018 3:43pm

But but but it's in da Daily Fail, so it must be true!

Harry Palmr · 22-09-2018 4:59pm

Hang on Mail quoting Express? Odd but Madden is a thoroughgoing fraud so ignorable in anyway event.

Loughc · 24-09-2018 8:41am

ZX7R wrote: »

Madden the mad man ,
that means a nice mild winter so

Correct, there goes any chance of snow. Oh well at least we have that heatwave in Summer 2019 with record high temperatures to last 3 months to look forward to. :pac:

Harry Palmr · 15-10-2018 10:48pm

Ah yes - it's SNOWMAGGEDON :pac:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-forecast-temperatures-nosedive-13422424

When one shiity tabloid is quoting another you know to pay no heed.

Temperatures in the UK are about to nosedive amid heavy snowfall before the end of this month, according to reports.

Brits could be facing the start of a 'four month Polar assault' with sub zero temperatures until February next year, reports say.

And a 'substantial' amount of snow is threatening Scotland, northern and central England.

Conditions could be even more extreme than during the 'Beast from the East' earlier this year.

Very low temperatures - which could break October records - have been forecast by WeatherAction.

WeatherAction’s Piers Corbyn told the Daily Express : "We are expecting some quite severe snowfall before the end of this month and it will not just be confined to the far north, this could reach parts of the midlands or even further south.

"This spell of very cold weather looks like bringing substantial snow to a more widespread area of the country than people would necessarily expect at this time of year.

"We are also forecasting some very low temperatures, we could see the record for October broken this year."

The forecaster blamed changes in the structure of the 'plasma layer' around the sun which will apparently encourage cold air over the North Pole to spill south and towards Europe.

This is known as a displaced Polar Vortex.

Mr Corbyn predicts an early onset of severe winter - getting more severe from the end of next month.

It always reads better if you throw in some words that suggest technical knowledge, no matter how bogus the application.

Lucreto · 16-10-2018 10:17pm

And another one

https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/342148/ireland-could-see-snow-before-the-end-of-october.html

spookwoman · 16-10-2018 10:47pm

Lucreto wrote: »

And another one

https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/342148/ireland-could-see-snow-before-the-end-of-october.html

Same crowd that do waterfordlive. who say ireland could see snow by the end of october https://www.waterfordlive.ie/news/weather/341824/ireland-could-see-snow-before-the-end-of-october.html

Clonmel1000 · 30-10-2018 8:32am

It’s now almost daily the bombardment of doom and gloom weather stories. The tabloids running with a hurricane for this weekend.

prunudo · 30-10-2018 9:04am

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

It’s now almost daily the bombardment of doom and gloom weather stories. The tabloids running with a hurricane for this weekend.

Noticed that over the weekend, people sharing tabloid stories on Facebook about storm Deirdre on the way.
I know there is a change for the end of the week but at least wait till the proper organisations name it before putting out stories about something that may never materialise.
It all feeds into the sensationalist crap around the storm warnings and general public's lack of knowledge on what is actually forecast.

zell12 · 14-11-2018 11:34am

DailyMail - Britain braced for snow next week as ‘Beast from the East’ dramatically slashes temperatures to close to FREEZING

Harry Palmr · 14-11-2018 12:00pm

I'm not even going to check if they are referring to "feels like" daytime or night time temps.

mikeecho · 17-11-2018 1:13am

Mini ice age on the way.. Lots of cold.

According to this.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/16/a-mini-ice-age-could-be-on-the-way-and-its-going-to-get-very-very-cold-8146529/amp

zell12 · 20-12-2018 12:44pm

2019: close to record-breaking year, forecasts UK Met Office

Clonmel1000 · 21-12-2018 9:51am

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/met-eireann-christmas-weather-forecast-13758033

Villain · 21-12-2018 12:44pm

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/met-eireann-christmas-weather-forecast-13758033

Ah lads! That was in relation to the chances of seeing Nacreous clouds!!!

zell12 · 28-12-2018 2:47pm

DailyMail - A new Beast from the East could be on the way: Met Office warns of snow and an icy blast in January thanks to a 'Sudden Stratospheric Warming'
'At the moment there is a Sudden Stratospheric Warming taking place. The effects of that are felt some time after because it's happening high in the atmosphere. So it takes at least two weeks for that to be felt at ground level, but at the moment it's far too early to say what the effects might be.
In the past they have been responsible for the Beast from the East and the cold and the snow.'

Captain Snow · 29-12-2018 9:43am

Bitterly cold January ahead, Met Éireann say

29/12/2018 - 08:29:00

Ireland could be in for another bitterly cold and wintry January with the possible return of the same weather system that caused the Beast from the East this year.
The British Met Office says the UK is currently in the middle of what's called a "sudden stratospheric warning".
Met Eireann's Liz Walsh says it's too early to say if we'll get more extreme weather:
"Around the atmosphere, you can get deep differences in temperature between cold air coming down from the north and then warm air rising from the south," she said.
"You could have very cold air over the US, but warmer air over the Atlantic and then colder air again over Europe or possibly, over Asia."

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/bitterly-cold-january-ahead-met-eireann-say-894532.html

Gaoth Laidir · 29-12-2018 10:35am

Captain Snow wrote: »

Bitterly cold January ahead, Met Éireann say

29/12/2018 - 08:29:00

Ireland could be in for another bitterly cold and wintry January with the possible return of the same weather system that caused the Beast from the East this year.
The British Met Office says the UK is currently in the middle of what's called a "sudden stratospheric warning".
Met Eireann's Liz Walsh says it's too early to say if we'll get more extreme weather:
"Around the atmosphere, you can get deep differences in temperature between cold air coming down from the north and then warm air rising from the south," she said.
"You could have very cold air over the US, but warmer air over the Atlantic and then colder air again over Europe or possibly, over Asia."

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/bitterly-cold-january-ahead-met-eireann-say-894532.html

Now where the hell is the evidence that Met Éireann said "Bitterly cold January ahead"? That's criminal "journalism".

Mortelaro · 29-12-2018 11:47am

I've never heard of a sudden stratospheric Warning before,will there be sirens and everything?

Captain Snow · 29-12-2018 11:49am

Mortelaro wrote: »

I've never heard of a sudden stratospheric Warning before,will there be sirens and everything?

Goes to show they cant even get the Terminology Correct..... :pac:

sparrowcar · 29-12-2018 11:50am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Now where the hell is the evidence that Met Éireann said "Bitterly cold January ahead"? That's criminal "journalism".

It's criminal..
No full stop at the end of "Met Eireann say" in the headline suggesting it's part of a continued sentence in the rest of the story. It's how they get away with it.

Harry Palmr · 29-12-2018 11:53am

I heard that on the radio news and thought what the holy feck was that? In the space of two sentences the Beast from the East was raised and basically killed.

This meanwhile seems to add nothing but uncertainty for the average joe half listening.

"Around the atmosphere, you can get deep differences in temperature between cold air coming down from the north and then warm air rising from the south," she said.
"You could have very cold air over the US, but warmer air over the Atlantic and then colder air again over Europe or possibly, over Asia."

And they wonder why people have a go at the presentation of forthcoming weather.

Edit - just to put this in context when this slack quiet spell ends the Atlantic will be back in charge so it'll be three weeks before anything happens at a minimum.

Faustino · 29-12-2018 12:40pm

Mortelaro wrote: »

I've never heard of a sudden stratospheric Warning before,will there be sirens and everything?

We'll be sure to hear them the day after tomorrow

expectationlost · 30-12-2018 7:51pm

Opinion: The press needs to stop sensationalising the weather https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/opinion-we-are-living-through-a-global-phenemenon-the-sensationalising-of-weather-alerts-4409547-Dec2018/#comment-7748821 by Retail Ireland's David Fitzsimons

An example of this occurred on a busy shopping weekend in the run-up to Christmas. On Thursday 13 December, Met Éireann reported that a status orange warning would apply nationwide from Friday evening through to Saturday evening.

On that Thursday, footfall reduced nationwide on a like by like basis by 8%, even though the alert had not yet come into effect.

A national tabloid then ran a headline the next day stating that 135 kmph winds would hit Ireland, even though those winds were actually forecast for an oil rig off the coast of Ireland, so that was out at sea!

Friday’s footfall reduced by 12% and Saturday by 23%. It is a fact that many parts of the country on Saturday 14th December experienced some rain and some wind, that said was a nationwide alert really appropriate?

which national tabloid then ran a headline the next day stating that 135 kmph winds would hit Ireland? oh does he mean the Sun whose headline was WEATHER ALERT Met Eireann confirm Storm Deirdre set to hit Ireland with ‘disruptive and damaging 130kph gusts’ as forecasters issue nationwide wind warning https://www.thesun.ie/news/3518326/met-eireann-storm-deirdre-damaging-wind-warning/

sdanseo · 30-12-2018 8:03pm

expectationlost wrote: »

Opinion: The press needs to stop sensationalising the weather https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/opinion-we-are-living-through-a-global-phenemenon-the-sensationalising-of-weather-alerts-4409547-Dec2018/#comment-7748821 which national tabloid then ran a headline the next day stating that 135 kmph winds would hit Ireland?

As usual, the journal comments section is vomit inducing. People with no knowledge (and possibly the same ones who would criticise Met Éireann for "incorrect" warnings) spouting nonsense.

The reality is he is correct. The press will jump on anything for a story and unfortunately while the more educated among us know to ignore everything a red-top tabloid says, many don't and take it as gospel. In addition, some of the outlets that would once have been considered reliable like Indo and the Examiner jumped on the bandwagon.

I do think Met Éireann need to be clearer about explaining why warnings have changed and reinforcing that warnings are based on forecast which is not an exact science. Beyond the regular TV and web foreacsts, communication is not their forté.

Captain Snow · 05-01-2019 7:56pm

Channel 4. Britain s wildest weather. On now.

mikeecho · 19-01-2019 11:07pm

Snow storm.

A snow storm people..

https://www.her.ie/news/ireland-snow-storm-january-445966

I'll believe it, when I see it

prunudo · 17-04-2019 7:34am

I notice all the radio stations and their dj's getting excited about stunning 22c weather this weekend and how we'll be warmer than places in the Mediterranean. I expect plenty of people giving out on Tuesday about how Met Eireann never get the weather right.

And just to be clear, I'm not knocking ME, just people mis reading the weather or hearing what they want and not realising that warm weather doesn't mean sunny weather.

zell12 · 02-05-2019 4:41pm

DailyMail - May Bank Holiday will be coldest for 41 years with minus 6C chills, frost and snow and sleet on way

Bsal · 06-05-2019 2:11am

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1125133360702083073

zell12 · 27-05-2019 8:18am

75 years ago, the story of a weathergirl in Blacksod, Mayo, who played an invaluable part in the success of World War II's D-Day
'Storm Front in Mayo' is on Thursday June 6 22:15 RTE1

Hooter23 · 09-06-2019 3:01pm

Scientists Warn a Prolonged Solar Minimum is Coming

According to experts, the sun has now started a period of low activity which has been associated with collapsing temperatures. The scientists say that this change could last for over a decade.

Astronomers pointed out that the sun has now gone 15 consecutive days without the occurrence of sunspots. This has marked 58% of the days of 2019 with the lack of sunspots. The cycle that the sun follows entails 11 years where the sun would reach a solar maximum and would later shift into its solar minimum. When it is at its solar maximum, the sun would give off more heat. It is also frequented by a higher number of sunspots.

Space Weather reports a cosmic forecasting site, they have observed that the sun has been without spots for 15 consecutive days which points to the start of a solar minimum. The occurrence of solar minimum is of high importance as some climate experts believe that solar cycles impose a bigger threat to the Earth as compared to global warming that is caused by destructive human activities.

Vijay Jayaraj, one of the environmental scientists from the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, believes that global warming is the product of solar cycles. The said alliance is a Christian group that does not believe that global warming is caused by man's actions. Jayaraj pointed out that the sun is the biggest influence when it comes to global temperature.

Jayaraj added that the National Aeronautics And Space Administration (NASA) has a page explaining that solar influence has been determining the atmospheric and surface temperatures of the Earth. The scientist also cited an example explaining that temperature changes since 1990 have coincided more with the changes in solar activity as compared to atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration.

According to the Scientific community, the sun was not expected to head into a solar minimum until 2020. However, the solar minimum has started early. Experts states this would mean a prolonged cold snap for the planet. The experts feel that it is important to point out that the last time that there was a prolonged solar minimum, a mini Ice Age has occurred which lasted for 70 years. The seven decades of freezing weather, known as the Maunder minimum, lasted from 1645 to 1715. During this time, there is a very low occurrence of sunspots.

In addition, global temperatures during the time dropped by 1.3°C that have shortened seasons and have affected the food chain that ultimately led to food shortages.

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/22497/20190608/scientists-warn-solar-minimum-coming.htm

Harry Palmr · 09-06-2019 6:38pm

How to undermine a science themed article

Vijay Jayaraj, one of the environmental scientists from the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, believes that global warming is the product of solar cycles. The said alliance is a Christian group that does not believe that global warming is caused by man's actions. Jayaraj pointed out that the sun is the biggest influence when it comes to global temperature.

Jayaraj added that the National Aeronautics And Space Administration (NASA) has a page explaining that solar influence has been determining the atmospheric and surface temperatures of the Earth. The scientist also cited an example explaining that temperature changes since 1990 have coincided more with the changes in solar activity as compared to atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration.

https://www.desmogblog.com/cornwall-alliance-stewardship-creation

Hooter23 · 09-06-2019 7:39pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

How to undermine a science themed article

https://www.desmogblog.com/cornwall-alliance-stewardship-creation

You can find the same information/news story from a more "trusted" news source if you like...I suppose if it was on RTE news like "climate change" it would be taken as the truth and not questioned...if its on the telly it must be true :pac:

Harry Palmr · 09-06-2019 7:55pm

I prefer my science news to not be filtered through evangelical Christians!

zell12 · 02-07-2019 10:03am

time-lapse of a rare twisting cloud formation is captured on video, appearing to roll up like a thick blanket.
The clouds known as Arcus, or Roll Clouds, Co Mayo
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7203835/Spectacular-time-lapse-rare-cloud-formation-rolls-like-blanket-filmed.html

zell12 · 08-09-2019 3:10pm

DailyMail - Britain braces for one of its COLDEST winters in 30 years as 'Beast from the East' makes bone-chilling return with -14C lows after jet stream shifts south

ZX7R · 08-09-2019 6:59pm

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail - Britain braces for one of its COLDEST winters in 30 years as 'Beast from the East' makes bone-chilling return with -14C lows after jet stream shifts south

Slightly better reading than there crap about Brit exit ha

Comhrá · 08-09-2019 7:43pm

Originally Posted by zell12 View Post
DailyMail - Britain braces for one of its COLDEST winters in 30 years as 'Beast from the East' makes bone-chilling return with -14C lows after jet stream shifts south

ZX7R wrote: »

Slightly better reading than there crap about Brit exit ha

Glad I saw that DM article......it'll save me months of looking at those pesky weather models and reading all the prognostications here and on other forums.

I can now go and confidently buy some thermal underwear, woolens, bread and fuel in anticipation of this imminent Arctic onslaught in early 2020, four months away.

giveitholly · 09-09-2019 12:04pm

Last segment on the news on today fm at 12 noon is reporting that Britain might get hit by a 'beast from the east' next January/February. Who sanctions such items as "news"?

sryanbruen · 09-09-2019 12:06pm

giveitholly wrote: »

Last segment on the news on today fm at 12 noon is reporting that Britain might get hit by a 'beast from the east' next January/February. Who sanctions such items as "news"?

I'm currently working on a post in regards to this for the Winter 2019/20 thread

. As always, newspapers hype up utter rubbish but the source for this hype is a bit interesting and different to previous years. Details to come. Ignore the media releases anyway.

Loughc · 09-09-2019 12:10pm

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail - Britain braces for one of its COLDEST winters in 30 years as 'Beast from the East' makes bone-chilling return with -14C lows after jet stream shifts south

Every year you can guarantee Daily Mail will post these 2 headlines in some shape and form.

"Hottest Summer on record due to hit, Britain to have a 2 month heatwave"

"The Big Freeze, Britain set to have the coldest Winter on record."

Rinse. Latter. Repeat.

You have to admire them, two articles ready to re-print every year.

KingJeremy · 09-09-2019 12:31pm

Anyone want to weigh in on the talk on the radio this morning that Jan/Feb 2020 may see the UK experiencing “Beast from the East” conditions? Seems ridiculously far out to be saying such a thing.

DOCARCH · 09-09-2019 12:35pm

Mod Note: @KingJeremy Merged your thread in here.

They publish this sort of article every winter. No science to it....just to sell papers!

Loughc · 09-09-2019 12:41pm

KingJeremy wrote: »

Anyone want to weigh in on the talk on the radio this morning that Jan/Feb 2020 may see the UK experiencing “Beast from the East” conditions?

Yes. I want to weigh in on this. It's a load of sh.

zell12 · 09-09-2019 1:59pm

But but but it's in the Daily Star
The prediction has been made in one of the first long-range UK weather forecasts ever attempted, from the University College London (UCL).

Weather in the Media: TV, TABLOIDS etc.

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