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where to get me a cargo bike

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    That's so class .

    I have a few cycles and really love them, in process of buying a new racer.
    Last year I sold my car and bought a toura and cycled to work everyday, the amount of bag space was fantastic , and managed to bring in my camera , laptop, spare clothes . lunch .
    As you can imagine people took piss at start but slowely became interested .

    Today I came across this thread and like the original op I totally agree, its impossible to have to many bikes .

    I have 3 young kids and they'd love these. I'm defo looking into these and making it my new obsession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Nearly two weeks in, and it's all going very well.

    Does anyone know if there is an identifier or a serial number stamped into the frame of the bakfiets? I found a sticker with a code under the bottom bracket, but that doesn't seem much use in the event of the bike being stolen.

    In terms of security, a Kryptolok Series 2 does the job of securing the front wheel, looping over the steering linkage and through the gap between the fork and the steering limiter, while an Abus City Chain X-Plus 1060 allows you to lock the frame between the bottom bracket and the wooden box to most things. Anything shorter (it's just over a metre long) would make life difficult, I think. The City Chain also allows you to loop through the rear wheel and lock at a point just in front of the bottom bracket, which is handy enough if there's no pole or rack to lock to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Rojo


    Awesome bike tomasrojo.

    Always smile when I see a cargo bike. Happy cycling!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Finally, after nearly eight weeks, I have the bakfiets. I went to get it with the Brompton, so it was handy for getting the Brompton home.
    386400.jpg

    Thats a nice looking bike and kids seem to enjoy it too. Do you have a normal bike apart from this one. If you do I wonder how do you find switching between. On my first day on cargo I met a courier on bullitt and he said one you use it and then go back on your normal bike you'll be like a Dumbo - and boy he was right :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Mr. Grieves


    omri wrote: »
    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Finally, after nearly eight weeks, I have the bakfiets. I went to get it with the Brompton, so it was handy for getting the Brompton home.[\quote]


    Thats a nice looking bike and kids seem to enjoy it too. Do you have a normal bike apart from this one. If you do I wonder how do you find switching between. On my first day on cargo I met a courier on bullitt and he said one you use it and then go back on your normal bike you'll be like a Dumbo - and boy he was right :)

    There are 2 bikes in that photo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    omri wrote: »
    Do you have a normal bike apart from this one. If you do I wonder how do you find switching between.

    As Mr. Grieves says, one of my other bikes is hiding in plain sight in the photo. I also have a tourer. I feel like an elephant on a child's trike when I go from the cargo bike to any other bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    In particular, the steering on the tourer feels incredibly twitchy. The folder always felt twitchy, so I don't seem to notice the change that much. The more forward-leaning sitting position on the tourer makes me feel very far forward too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    In particular, the steering on the tourer feels incredibly twitchy. The folder always felt twitchy, so I don't seem to notice the change that much. The more forward-leaning sitting position on the tourer makes me feel very far forward too.

    Welcome to the club. The only solution is to get on both bikes each day. Which usualy doesnt happen in my case as it's bloody heavy up hill, and I'm spent for the rest of the day :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I sorted out a way of mounting an extra front light (the dynamo front light that comes with the bakfiets is a be-seen-with not a see-by light).

    I remembered I had an old Ikea Stugvik toilet roll holder, which has a suction cup on the back, which is a handy cushion between the wood of the bakfiets box and the plastic of the holder.

    So, a few nuts and bolts later:

    389749.jpg
    389747.jpg

    Also, mounted a bracket for a stronger rear light (Smart R2), using a split wine cork:

    389748.jpg

    Anyway, that was yesterday, before the EU roof fell in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Doctor Bob


    Love the cork!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I sorted out a way of mounting an extra front light (the dynamo front light that comes with the bakfiets is a be-seen-with not a see-by light).

    I remembered I had an old Ikea Stugvik toilet roll holder, which has a suction cup on the back, which is a handy cushion between the wood of the bakfiets box and the plastic of the holder.

    So, a few nuts and bolts later:

    389749.jpg
    389747.jpg

    Also, mounted a bracket for a stronger rear light (Smart R2), using a split wine cork:

    389748.jpg

    Im looking forward to seeing this on kickstarter - preferably made of carbon or titanium and aero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Doctor Bob wrote: »
    Love the cork!

    I used the same trick on my other bike, but I used an artificial cork. I think that's better, as a traditional Quercus suber one will gradually rot. Will be ok for a while though!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I used the same trick on my other bike, but I used an artificial cork. I think that's better, as a traditional Quercus suber one will gradually rot. Will be ok for a while though!

    I had a similar one on the front of my old bike, like the grip that holds shifters to the drop bars but with a nub attached. Cost me 8 euro in Holland and was great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Must keep an eye out for one of them. Handy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Another Ikea hack. I needed to get the long chain lock and the u-lock out of the bakfiets box, as it was getting a pain fishing them out all the time, and getting the kids rained on before they were ready to get out.

    I had a spare Variera plastic bag dispenser. One hacksaw, some old light mounts, some cable ties and a few rubber strips later:

    391076.jpg

    Seems to work so far. Much preferable to keeping the locks in the box, and cost me €0.00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Doctor Bob


    Recently I carried some 1.5m bamboo canes home from a DIY shop by using the snellbinders (built-in rubber bungees) on my back carrier to anchor the bunch of canes and slotting the other end of the bunch through a handlebar-mounted coffee cup holder. You're making me wish I'd taken a photo now! The next time I cycle with my kite, watch this space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Bike hack thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Another Ikea hack. I needed to get the long chain lock and the u-lock out of the bakfiets box, as it was getting a pain fishing them out all the time, and getting the kids rained on before they were ready to get out.

    I had a spare Variera plastic bag dispenser. One hacksaw, some old light mounts, some cable ties and a few rubber strips later:

    391076.jpg

    Seems to work so far. Much preferable to keeping the locks in the box, and cost me €0.00

    I am wondering what will you have for us next ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    omri wrote: »
    I am wondering what will you have for us next ?


    391105.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Bike hack thread?

    Carried one of these home on the bike. Cable ties and bowed legs...

    61303.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Doctor Bob wrote: »
    The next time I cycle with my kite, watch this space.

    Speaking of bikes and kites ...
    http://imgur.com/zm0kc41

    I briefly considered putting this in the hi-viz thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    Sooooooo, I finally have saved up enough to buy me a Bullitt!! :)

    I'm currently using a Burley Bee to bring my 5 and 3 yo girls to school, but I'd rather have a Bullitt (you know, because!).

    To justify the cost, I need to make sure I get another few years out of it, so I needs to have room for the two of them.

    I'm looking at these two kinds of canopies:

    canopy+1.jpg?format=1000w

    166653fd3baa300bd535def0015bf907.jpg

    I think the first is preferable to me, but I don't think it'll have much leeway to grow or much of an improvement over the Burley. The second is more "future proof", but less elegant.
    I'm also worried about width, for it to be day-to-day transport I need the girls to want to use it, and not complain about being squashed (like they currently do about the Burley, although I think that's as much because they'd prefer to be in the car - they look fine to me!).

    Does anyone have any experience or suggestions before I push the button?

    Is there anyone in Dublin (preferably South/South County) or north Wicklow who has one that would be willing to try the girls in yours?

    Thanks all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    AltAccount wrote: »
    Sooooooo, I finally have saved up enough to buy me a Bullitt!! :)

    I'm currently using a Burley Bee to bring my 5 and 3 yo girls to school, but I'd rather have a Bullitt (you know, because!).

    To justify the cost, I need to make sure I get another few years out of it, so I needs to have room for the two of them.

    I'm looking at these two kinds of canopies:

    canopy+1.jpg?format=1000w

    166653fd3baa300bd535def0015bf907.jpg

    I think the first is preferable to me, but I don't think it'll have much leeway to grow or much of an improvement over the Burley. The second is more "future proof", but less elegant.
    I'm also worried about width, for it to be day-to-day transport I need the girls to want to use it, and not complain about being squashed (like they currently do about the Burley, although I think that's as much because they'd prefer to be in the car - they look fine to me!).

    Does anyone have any experience or suggestions before I push the button?

    Is there anyone in Dublin (preferably South/South County) or north Wicklow who has one that would be willing to try the girls in yours?

    Thanks all!

    Hi - I got bullitt with the canopy from the top photo. Im in south co dublin if this helps, if you want to seeit drop me a PM and we can try to arrange something.

    I have a boy 5yrs and a girl 2.5yrs. Theyare bit squashed width wise. I reckon I'd get another year maybe two out of it with the lad if he continues grow at this pace. Girl is fine and loves it especially when shes on her own inthe cabin. 2 kids + shopping tend to be bit tricky. Expect some fights too. What I discovered recently is a real peace maker - peppa pig or ben and holly on the phone and you might as well be carrying two big potato bags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭'68 Fastback


    Does anyone use a cover to store their bike outside? I have been using the Oxford 3 bike cover and while it fully covers my Big Dummy it isn't very durable and after 6 months of daily use it's too torn up to be effective.

    Any suggestions welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    '68 wrote:
    Does anyone use a cover to store their bike outside? I have been using the Oxford 3 bike cover and while it fully covers my Big Dummy it isn't very durable and after 6 months of daily use it's too torn up to be effective.

    Any suggestions welcome.

    I think a big enough piece of good quality tarpaulin should sort you out. If you can buy it in some sort of customized size. They use it on trucks so this should last years with this kind of use. Not sure about prices but still it's probably best value.

    I'm not keeping my bike outdoors at the moment but if I do that's what I will get to keep it dry and sheltered.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭kenmc


    AltAccount wrote: »
    Sooooooo, I finally have saved up enough to buy me a Bullitt!! :)

    I'm currently using a Burley Bee to bring my 5 and 3 yo girls to school, but I'd rather have a Bullitt (you know, because!).

    To justify the cost, I need to make sure I get another few years out of it, so I needs to have room for the two of them.

    I'm looking at these two kinds of canopies:

    canopy+1.jpg?format=1000w

    166653fd3baa300bd535def0015bf907.jpg

    I think the first is preferable to me, but I don't think it'll have much leeway to grow or much of an improvement over the Burley. The second is more "future proof", but less elegant.
    I'm also worried about width, for it to be day-to-day transport I need the girls to want to use it, and not complain about being squashed (like they currently do about the Burley, although I think that's as much because they'd prefer to be in the car - they look fine to me!).

    Does anyone have any experience or suggestions before I push the button?

    Is there anyone in Dublin (preferably South/South County) or north Wicklow who has one that would be willing to try the girls in yours?

    Thanks all!
    I've the first one, 2 kids, 1.5 & almost 4, it's a snug fit but fine for now. There's occasionally tears when youngest tries to hit or grab something from oldest, but hopefully that'll diminish as he gets more words and can communicate better.

    I get their creche bags and them in, but wouldn't get much more. I made my own seat as the LvsH only has lapbelts and I needed 3 point harness for little one at 8 months old.also saved 200 euro

    Work in leopardstown, live in goatstown if either suit you to try for size, pm me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    Thanks for the offer KenMc, but muchas gracias to Omri for the time, information and testdrive - as of Saturday I became a fully fledged member of the Bullitt Owners Club.

    Well chuffed with my new purchase (well, second hand purchase). It doesn't have the canopy for the kids, but I'll get that through ThinkBike. Really looking forward to the long weekend now! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Nice one, welcome aboard!where'd you pick up a second hand bullitt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    Omri pointed me towards one on Adverts! One in a million odds tbh :p

    https://www.adverts.ie/hybrid-bikes/cargo-bike-harry-vs-larry/10792576


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    AltAccount wrote: »
    Thanks for the offer KenMc, but muchas gracias to Omri for the time, information and testdrive - as of Saturday I became a fully fledged member of the Bullitt Owners Club.

    Well chuffed with my new purchase (well, second hand purchase). It doesn't have the canopy for the kids, but I'll get that through ThinkBike. Really looking forward to the long weekend now! :)

    Congrats, congrats! :) It's a nice start to a great project. They even have di2 on bullitts!

    I've put 203mm disc on my front wheel today and moved old 180mm from the front to the back wheel. The 203 for the front is an overkill by a mile. You can see how the wheel is being pulled to the left when braking. This might call for a damper kit... Putting back the rear wheel without any kind of bike stand (I used a big box of Fairy Bio to prop the frame) was a struggle (eventually I rested the saddle on my shoulder and lifte the whole thing up). So need to come up with some sort of custom made repair stand for the bullitt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    omri wrote: »
    Congrats, congrats! :) It's a nice start to a great project. They even have di2 on bullitts!

    Jaysus, you were tempting me with suspension forks when we were chatting, now you're dangling di2 under my nose!

    Get thee behind me, devil!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    omri wrote: »
    I've put 203mm disc on my front wheel today and moved old 180mm from the front to the back wheel. The 203 for the front is an overkill by a mile. You can see how the wheel is being pulled to the left when braking. This might call for a damper kit...

    Also, I'm in the middle of putting an old set of these on at the moment
    http://www.mtbr.com/cat/brakes/disc-brake-system/hope/enduro-4/prd_360157_1507crx.aspx
    Pretty sure it's a 205 on the front, sooooooo maybe I should be thinking twice about the upgrade... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    AltAccount wrote: »
    Jaysus, you were tempting me with suspension forks when we were chatting, now you're dangling di2 under my nose!

    Get thee behind me, devil!! :)

    Nothing wrong with a little bit of encouragement...

    I'll give my road bike another chance but if it's over between us then definitely will get another bullitt for strictly personal use :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    AltAccount wrote: »
    Also, I'm in the middle of putting an old set of these on at the moment
    http://www.mtbr.com/cat/brakes/disc-brake-system/hope/enduro-4/prd_360157_1507crx.aspx
    Pretty sure it's a 205 on the front, sooooooo maybe I should be thinking twice about the upgrade... :p

    I'm sure it will be fine although in technical info (on larryvsharry.com) they say max disc it will take in front is 203.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    omri wrote: »
    I'm sure it will be fine although in technical info (on larryvsharry.com) they say max disc it will take in front is 203.

    challenge-accepted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    omri wrote: »
    So need to come up with some sort of custom made repair stand for the bullitt.

    There's two pictures in this sequence that show a cargo bike propped up by the main tube behind the box. It's probably not all that much better than using the Persil Bio arrangement, except a bit stronger and more stable, I guess.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/iamnotacyclist/6123452343/in/photostream/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    There's two pictures in this sequence that show a cargo bike propped up by the main tube behind the box. It's probably not all that much better than using the Persil Bio arrangement, except a bit stronger and more stable, I guess.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/iamnotacyclist/6123452343/in/photostream/

    I might have found the solution.

    332301?

    At €14 a pair. So €28 for 3 to put the bike on and one for spare parts :) + some old tubes to protect the frame. 50cm max height which hopefully will make things comfortable enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    omri wrote: »
    I might have found the solution.


    At €14 a pair. So €28 for 3 to put the bike on and one for spare parts :) + some old tubes to protect the frame. 50cm max height which hopefully will make things comfortable enough.

    They won't do alone as you'll be likely to pull the bike off them. If you come up with something to tie them together and something to strap the bike to the stands it will be much more stable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    cdaly_ wrote: »
    They won't do alone as you'll be likely to pull the bike off them. If you come up with something to tie them together and something to strap the bike to the stands it will be much more stable.

    Was thinking some T shaped frame wooden or steel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    A winch or some rope around a sturdy tree bough might do the trick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    AltAccount wrote: »
    Thanks for the offer KenMc, but muchas gracias to Omri for the time, information and testdrive - as of Saturday I became a fully fledged member of the Bullitt Owners Club.

    Well chuffed with my new purchase (well, second hand purchase). It doesn't have the canopy for the kids, but I'll get that through ThinkBike. Really looking forward to the long weekend now! :)


    My mean machine and some happy passengers this morning.

    393224.jpeg

    393225.jpeg

    Well happy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    P.S. This bike has a thru-axle quick release front wheel, whereas I prefer using locking skewers like these:

    kfhup270.jpg

    Does anyone have any suggestions of how to best make the front wheel un-nickable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    The wheel can't accommodate pitlock skewers or something like that?

    I'm securing my front wheel using a Kryptolok Series 2; one arm of the shackle fits between the fork and the steering limiter and is long enough to encircle the rim of the front wheel and the steering linkage. It would be a bit of work to get the front wheel off. You'd have to remove the front mudguard and decouple the steering linkage at least. Not sure even then you could slide the lock out between the steering limiter and the fork.

    The steering linkage on yours communicates with the fork lower down than my bakfiets though. It is mentioned in one of the links upthread the option of drilling holes in the front board of the box and passing a u-lock through those holes, thus securing the front wheel to the main tube as it rises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    AltAccount wrote: »
    P.S. This bike has a thru-axle quick release front wheel, whereas I prefer using locking skewers like these:

    kfhup270.jpg

    Does anyone have any suggestions of how to best make the front wheel un-nickable?

    I was looking at sixpack nailer 2 but unfortunately couldn't find the right size axle for the front wheel - and its only front wheel that needs it. On bike24 they have 10x135 which might fit the rear wheel if its10mm. The front is 100mm and so far I didnt manage to find anything in this size.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    I was just down in Fitz Cycles (they of the boardsie owner and excellent customer service) and they have never come across a locking skewer for a thru axle. Unless ThinkBike have an idea, we may need to order online from Pitlock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    Its a decent day outside so decided to test the cargo bike stand. A little bit of fiddling with the stands positioning and its as stabe as its going to get.

    The wheel has to be turned otherwise the steering rod is in the way. At least in this layout. Its possible to position the stands to rest the box on them.

    Would advise keeping the kids away from the bike but other than that it does the job. Putting the bike on the stands isnt too difficult either.

    393642.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    One more.

    393644.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    Another one.

    393645.jpeg


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭sarachryan


    Hi there

    Can anyone tell me the exact width of the Bullitt with the kids canopy in place? The width per their website is 46 cm but that doesn't seem to factor in canopy.

    Also wondering what age I can expect to get out of it with two kids. Any view out there?

    Finally wondering if anyone has any experience of the Babboe city. It's half the price.

    Thanks

    P.s. any chance anyone is selling one???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    Not sure about the other questions, but widths are:

    Max external width: 585mm
    Internal width @ hips: 530mm
    Internal width @ shoulders: 565mm


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