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Weekend Boxing. Smith vs Ryder. Wilder vs Ortiz 2

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  • #52
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Xu Can v Josh Warrington is a guaranteed fight of the year contender if it happens in 2020. Can's work rate is unreal.


  • #53
    Morrison J
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    Honestly never seen power like Wilder's. Forehead shot and Ortiz is completely done. Unreal.


  • #54
    walshb
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    Wilder fights so timidly for such a puncher. Only really seriously opens up when his opponent is clearly hurt or clearly weaker...

    Great finishing shot. That’s boxing. One punch!


  • #55
    Blanco100
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    Wilder is so limited with that one great equalizer. Surely its only a matter of time though before someone stays out of harms way for 36 mins


  • #56
    walshb
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    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Wilder is so limited with that one great equalizer. Surely its only a matter of time though before someone stays out of harms way for 36 mins

    Yeh, but they still have to win the fight.

    He’s so awkward and it is difficult to establish any real rhythm against him...

    The division has nobody, really.

    Fury’s style and Usyk’s style best suited...

    But huge risk for either to not get tagged hard and clean...


  • #57
    Blanco100
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    walshb wrote: »
    Yeh, but they still have to win the fight.

    He’s so awkward and it is difficult to establish any real rhythm against him...

    The division has nobody, really.

    Fury’s style and Usyk’s style best suited...

    But huge risk for either to not get tagged hard and clean...

    Usyk is too small and he doesnt hit hard enough to gain Wilders respect. He will win rounds handily but its a matter of time.

    Fury has the size but again doesnt sit down on his shots enough to keep wilder honest, he will get tagged at some stage. Fury v Wilder 2 will be a fascinating fight though


  • #58
    normanoffside
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    Judges had it 59-55 x 2 and 58-56 to Ortiz after 6.
    I know it doesn’t matter now but how can anyone have seen 2 rounds for Wilder?
    I thought he perhaps won the 3rd but that’s it.


  • #59
    weemcd
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    Wilder is a freak amongst freaks. He didn't wind up hugely on that punch to end the fight, just let it go. The leverage he has is insane. He can truly lose every second of a fight bar one and still win by ko.


  • #60
    BDI
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    Omar juarez looks like someone that could sell out a pay per view in a couple of fights but his opponent looks like he took money to wear them Nike’s and put them on for the first time before the fight to realise they have no grip.


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  • #61
    walshb
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    Chocolate Orange1001 wrote: »
    Wilder has the most powerful punch in the history of the sport.

    Impossible to verify...

    Just looking at boxrec doesn’t cut it...

    He’s certainly in the mix..


  • #62
    squinn2912
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    walshb wrote: »
    Impossible to verify...

    Just looking at boxrec doesn’t cut it...

    He’s certainly in the mix..

    Correct. No way of saying this with any certainty. Similar with hand speed or intimidation ability. If he beats fury and then unifies would that make him a great?


  • #63
    nacho libre
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    Carl Frampton must be disappointed Santa Cruz did not mention him as a future opponent in his post fight interviews.
    Carl has declined since they last fought, so it would be an easy night for Cruz.
    Cruz against Davis at a higher weight would be a tough task.


  • #64
    nacho libre
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    walshb wrote: »
    Impossible to verify...

    Just looking at boxrec doesn’t cut it...

    He’s certainly in the mix..

    He might not be the hardest hitter of all time, but i think we can all agree he is uniqiue the way he can generate such power from relatively short range.


  • #65
    walshb
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    nacho libre wrote: »
    He might not be the hardest hitter of all time, but i think we can all agree he is uniqiue the way he can generate such power from relatively short range.

    He is not unique...

    Louis and Marciano and Foreman, to name three could all generate KO power from very short range..


  • #66
    nacho libre
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    walshb wrote: »
    He is not unique...

    Louis and Marciano and Foreman, to name three could all generate KO power from very short range..

    Not to the same extent though. Wilder's one punch power from short range is probably greater than all of them. Although there is no way to objectively prove of that.


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  • #67
    Bobby Baccala
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    nacho libre wrote: »
    Not to the same extent though. Wilder's one punch power from short range is probably greater than all of them. Although there is no way to objectively prove of that.

    Yeah I only had this conversation with somebody earlier I reckon he has to be the biggest puncher of all time, I'd put him ahead of Foreman, Tyson, Bowe in terms of power.


  • #68
    walshb
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    nacho libre wrote: »
    Not to the same extent though. Wilder's one punch power from short range is probably greater than all of them. Although there is no way to objectively prove of that.

    You say it can’t be proved, which I agree with. But you also say ‘not to the same extent.’ All we have to go on are visuals...

    What was Wilder’s heaviest punch ever landed? I think it was his shot vs Kelvin Price. I can only go on visuals. Long right hand on the button...was it heavier than (for example) Mike Tyson’s looping right hand that dropped Larry Holmes for the first KD?

    Cannot know..


  • #69
    squinn2912
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    At what stage during the programme does it show Wilder’s brother’s fight? I’m watching the card back but ff through talking and bs


  • #70
    walshb
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    squinn2912 wrote: »
    At what stage during the programme does it show Wilder’s brother’s fight? I’m watching the card back but ff through talking and bs

    Not sure. But it is on Youtube.


  • #71
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    walshb wrote: »
    Not sure. But it is on Youtube.

    Thanks lad got it now


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  • #72
    squinn2912
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    walshb wrote: »
    Not sure. But it is on Youtube.

    That was weird


  • #73
    SHOVELLER
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    nacho libre wrote: »
    Carl Frampton must be disappointed Santa Cruz did not mention him as a future opponent in his post fight interviews.
    Carl has declined since they last fought, so it would be an easy night for Cruz.
    Cruz against Davis at a higher weight would be a tough task.

    While I'm a huge Frampton fan as he's such a sound lad there is no reason why Santa Cruz would mention him as he doesn't have any of the belts.

    He did mention Gary Russell and Gervonta Davis twice. The Russell one I would love to see.

    Carl simply has to win Saturday


  • #74
    Mantis Toboggan
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    Jaysus just watched the Wilder fight in full, he really didn't land a glove for the 7 rounds and then boom. Lights out. He's such an average boxer with dynamite fists.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #75
    squinn2912
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    I’ve just watched it again. When you know the answer it’s easy to make the working out fit but that said, in the last minute from round 4 on Ortiz was sucking in air. He was putting a lot into it and by the 6th and 7th Wilder was throwing much more. Lefts to the body and head gave Ortiz a bit more to think about it and his mind wandered for just a second.
    I timed the count as well and he was given loads of time to get up. Where does he go from here? Does he have the following for anyone to want to fight him?


  • #76
    normanoffside
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    squinn2912 wrote: »
    I timed the count as well and he was given loads of time to get up.

    Yep the 10 count lasted 12 seconds


  • #77
    squinn2912
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    Yep the 10 count lasted 12 seconds

    Debatable if it did it’s hard to say for sure when Wilder was in a neutral corner. In any case he got a good ten count


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