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Logitech Harmony Ultimate Remote Control

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    mossym wrote: »
    i can't check from work if you can do it with the app, needs to be on the same wifi network as my hub to edit activites, so i'll have a look tonight.

    I'm very confident I don't have those options! I have explored thoroughly. But thanks.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    I'm very confident I don't have those options! I have explored thoroughly. But thanks.

    You can do it on the app too, but you may need to create a new activity, here it is on the app during setup, the third screen:

    logitech-harmony-set-up-activity.jpg


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Actually I think you can do it by editing an existing activity by doing "Re-run Activity":

    https://support.myharmony.com/en-us/how-to-edit-your-activity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    mossym wrote: »
    no offence, but from your thread i was pretty sure you had it setup wrong, so that doesn't come as a surprise.

    Thank you all for trying to prove me wrong... Let it go! I'm not looking for advice here... just letting you know that those options are not available to me on the Android app...

    It could be for a number of reasons, but its not unusual for apps to be fully blocked where I live have component parts and features disabled or have content blocked, it's possible also that app versions are not up to date here... that can be for a number of reasons...

    For instance, Uber for a long time was limited in its functionality compared to other regions; Google Play does not function properly in this region; maps is lacking in function; even today I tried to find the Vizio Casting app and discovered that it was blocked... Content too... many youtube channels lambasting Trump for his racist policies are also geo-limited here, because as anti Trump as they are, they are still afraid of sharing their content in this region... Even if these factors are not to blame, I can confidently say that the options you mention above are not applicable to me. I have however managed the system to achieve what I want from it (for now).

    Truth is, I don't know why my Android app doesn't show all the options, but I don't care for ignorant attitudes.

    mossym, you comment above is just obnoxious. Leave your superiority complex behind and behave appropriately. You are wrong on all counts.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Bluefoam, read my last two posts, you can absolutely do it with the android app.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    bk wrote: »
    Actually I think you can do it by editing an existing activity by doing "Re-run Activity":

    https://support.myharmony.com/en-us/how-to-edit-your-activity

    i suspected you could, tried to do it from the android app this morning but won't work unless you're on the same network. cheers for finding it, being able to edit the setup without deleting/readding the whole thing was in the very first incarnation of the harmony software 15 years ago so i'd have been very surprised if it wasn't there


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    mossym wrote: »
    i suspected you could, tried to do it from the android app this morning but won't work unless you're on the same network. cheers for finding it, being able to edit the setup without deleting/readding the whole thing was in the very first incarnation of the harmony software 15 years ago so i'd have been very surprised if it wasn't there

    I find that the iPhone app is easier for initial setup, I find the desktop client is still superior for advanced features and tweaking.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    bk wrote: »
    I find that the iPhone app is easier for initial setup, I find the desktop client is still superior for advanced features and tweaking.

    can't check the iphone app, but had a quick look at ti on android this morning, and as you said, it's easily done. click edit activities at the bottom of the list, pick the activity you want to modify, click rerun activity and it takes you through the exact same steps as the desktop app, the 2nd or third of which is select which device controls volume.

    zascar, should be pretty straightforward for you to set a different volume control for your DVR than other activities if you try that


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I gave it a quick try last night and was able to get it to change the volume of the UPC when I asked to "turn down the volume of the DVR" - so great that works, but then when I ask the TV to change,it still adjusts the volume of the DVR. Will have to have another go at it


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Zascar wrote: »
    I gave it a quick try last night and was able to get it to change the volume of the UPC when I asked to "turn down the volume of the DVR" - so great that works, but then when I ask the TV to change,it still adjusts the volume of the DVR. Will have to have another go at it

    are you trying to change the volume of both inside the same activity? not sure that 1) that will work, 2) why you would do it

    each activity controls one thing for volume, using the volume button on the remote. you can have the volume button control different things in each activity by setting up the controlled device using the method i mentioned above, and alexa should control whatever the selected device for that activity is.

    if you really want to adjsut the volume of two different units inside the same activity, you may need to use the remote, use the main volume buttons for one of them, and either add custom buttons to the screen of the remote to control the second unit, or on the remote click the devices button, go into the other unit you want to control, and use the volume button then. You’ll need to go back to current activity after that to control the other volume/all the main functions. I don’t think alexa can be used to implement either of these methods though so if you are trying to control two volume levels inside a single activity it’s likely going to be remote only for one of them


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    No I have two activities - one for the DVR and one for the TV. The reason i want to do this is if the TV volume is high but the DVR is low, I get an annoying buzzing noise. I usually leave the tv up high and use the DVR to control the volume. Right now its controlling the DVR which is fine - but I'll see if I can get it to do both.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Zascar wrote: »
    No I have two activities - one for the DVR and one for the TV. The reason i want to do this is if the TV volume is high but the DVR is low, I get an annoying buzzing noise. I usually leave the tv up high and use the DVR to control the volume. Right now its controlling the DVR which is fine - but I'll see if I can get it to do both.

    The trick here is to get the volume right first with your Harmony remote, before looking at Alexa.

    What I suggest you do is use the TV Volume for both the "TV Activity" and the "DVR Activity". In order to solve the buzzing problem, adjust the DVR's volume so it the volume of the DVR activity is the same as the TV activity. This is something you should only need to do once. Then in future you can adjust just the TV's volume from within the activity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭londonred


    Interested in one of these and some hue lights , do not still need a separate HUE hub if you have one of these ?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    londonred wrote: »
    Interested in one of these and some hue lights , do not still need a separate HUE hub if you have one of these ?

    you do. the harmony hub doesn't replace the hue hub .


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭londonred


    mossym wrote: »
    you do. the harmony hub doesn't replace the hue hub .

    Thanks , assume both then need to be wired into router? Running out of slots on router currently have android box and TP link extender plugged in.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    harmony hub is wireless. hue hub needs to be wired.

    if running out of slots on a router, buy a cheap 5/10 port switch and plug it into the router.


  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭yoshimitsu


    Has anybody had any success in controlling an iRobot Roomba with their Harmony? I've set it up properly on the app but cant get it to work... if anybody has followed an online tutorial or has any tips pls share.
    Cheers

    Edit: it's a 700 series; 786p to be precise


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    way outside my experience level. only thing i can suggest to check is if it is Ir controlled, and you are usign the hub, you can assign whether IR commands are issued from the hub, the remote, both, etc. if it is set to only be the hub, and you hide away the hub in a shelf with your av equipemtn it can still reach them by IR, but maybe not external devices where the IR is blocked.


    i had this issue with a lightswitch. i'd be fairly doubtful this is your issue(simply as i assume it uses IP control), but in the absence of being able to provide any other suggestions...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Ok trying to synch my Samsung TV and Virgin Media (Horizon Box) with the ultimate Harmony Hub and Alexa. On the Skills in Alexa there are 2 skills , Harmony and Harmony –Optimised for Smart Home.  I set up a skill in the Optimised to turn on the tv and open with RTE 1 and I can use the Harmony remote to change the channel. I also have some favourites set up and on the Harmony remote I can click on the screen to change channels. During the set up I set the Horizon remote to change channels and also sound. However I cannot get the sound to increase using the Harmony remote, yet I can change the channels???

     I then used the Harmony Skill to have the ability to change channels via Alexa so I can go Alexa, tell Harmony to turn on BBC1 etc. It can change the channels for a few stations but when I try others like RTE1 no joy there and cannot change volume either.

     So now  have the weekend free to try sort this out so any tips etc to try to sort this out appreciate it before I waste my Saturday trying to figure it out


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭setanta1984


    Not sure if it's just my placement of the echo dot, but I've found it close to impossible to use voice commands (particularly Harmony ones as the commands are so long) to do anything while the TV is on - the noise from the TV just interferes with everything.
    Not sure there is much value to the volume up/down or change channel voice controls which are always used when the TV is making noise. They're pretty reliable when the room is silent


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Irish Gunner, I'd recommend forgetting about Alexa for the moment. The first thing you should do is get the Harmony Remote working consistently.

    I'd set up the Harmony remote first, put away all your old remotes and just use the Harmony remote only for two weeks.

    Once you are happy with the Harmony remote after two weeks, then try setting up Alexa with Harmony.

    This is pretty much general advice for everyone. A lot of people here seem to be trying to setup both their Harmony remote and Alexa with Harmony at the same time and I think that is a recipe for disaster!

    They are two, very complicated system and people seem to be getting themselves tied up in knots and not understanding when the issue is Harmony or Alexa.

    Start with just Harmony, get that working well first, volume working on the remote, favourite channels setup, etc.

    Once you have the Harmony remote working well, then for the most part Alexa just works with the Harmony with little difficulty (as long as she can understand you).

    BTW I don't know why everyone is using the Horizon remote to control volume! It doesn't make sense. Just set the Horizon box to 50% volume and instead set your TV to control volume on the Harmony remote.

    As for RTE channels as favourites, Alexa seems to have difficulty with understanding the word RTE, probably because we pronounce differently then English speakers would. I'd rename this channel in favourites to something like Ireland 1, Ireland 2, etc. Or maybe Bog 1, Bog 2 :D Also you can try the same trick for other channels that don't work.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Not sure if it's just my placement of the echo dot, but I've found it close to impossible to use voice commands (particularly Harmony ones as the commands are so long) to do anything while the TV is on - the noise from the TV just interferes with everything.

    You do have to raise your voice with Alexa when the TV is on and it is better if the Echo isn't placed near the TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    bk wrote: »
    Irish Gunner, I'd recommend forgetting about Alexa for the moment. The first thing you should do is get the Harmony Remote working consistently.

    I'd set up the Harmony remote first, put away all your old remotes and just use the Harmony remote only for two weeks.

    Once you are happy with the Harmony remote after two weeks, then try setting up Alexa with Harmony.

    This is pretty much general advice for everyone. A lot of people here seem to be trying to setup both their Harmony remote and Alexa with Harmony at the same time and I think that is a recipe for disaster!

    They are two, very complicated system and people seem to be getting themselves tied up in knots and not understanding when the issue is Harmony or Alexa.

    Start with just Harmony, get that working well first, volume working on the remote, favourite channels setup, etc.

    Once you have the Harmony remote working well, then for the most part Alexa just works with the Harmony with little difficulty (as long as she can understand you).

    BTW I don't know why everyone is using the Horizon remote to control volume! It doesn't make sense. Just set the Horizon box to 50% volume and instead set your TV to control volume on the Harmony remote.

    As for RTE channels as favourites, Alexa seems to have difficulty with understanding the word RTE, probably because we pronounce differently then English speakers would. I'd rename this channel in favourites to something like Ireland 1, Ireland 2, etc. Or maybe Bog 1, Bog 2 :D Also you can try the same trick for other channels that don't work.
    Sound Advise if you pardon the pun.:P
    Think I will start with getting the remote working first as OH still using old remotes. I may just try to set it up to have favourites and also be able to control channel changing and volume control but choose the Horizon remote as the channel changer and the Samsung as the Volume. Happy enough that I can get Alexa to turn on and off the TV so will keep that for starters.
    Yep with the TV on Alexa sometimes does pick up the sound from the TV so it does not pick up say change channels when TV is on. Also while watching football other night I used some expletives and Alexa gave out to me :D
    I'm on the US amazon skill set so which skill do I use the Harmony or the Harmony –Optimised for Smart Home.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Ok trying to synch my Samsung TV and Virgin Media (Horizon Box) with the ultimate Harmony Hub and Alexa. On the Skills in Alexa there are 2 skills , Harmony and Harmony –Optimised for Smart Home.  I set up a skill in the Optimised to turn on the tv and open with RTE 1 and I can use the Harmony remote to change the channel. I also have some favourites set up and on the Harmony remote I can click on the screen to change channels. During the set up I set the Horizon remote to change channels and also sound. However I cannot get the sound to increase using the Harmony remote, yet I can change the channels???

     I then used the Harmony Skill to have the ability to change channels via Alexa so I can go Alexa, tell Harmony to turn on BBC1 etc. It can change the channels for a few stations but when I try others like RTE1 no joy there and cannot change volume either.

     So now  have the weekend free to try sort this out so any tips etc to try to sort this out appreciate it before I waste my Saturday trying to figure it out

    one answer for you, alexa does not like rte. some say it's because of the fada, i'm not sure why, but i couldn't get rte to work for me either. when you linked to alexa though it allows you to add other buzzowords to an activity and favourite channel, i jsut added irish 1 to rte 1, irish 2 to rte2 and so on, worked perfectly. you may need to unlink from alexa first and relink to redo this though

    as BK said though, resolve the problems with the remote first.

    answer me one question on your setup, do you watch all your tv through the virgin box?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Yeah need to get the remote sorted first.

     I use the Horizon to watch TV but to be honest I don’t watch that much TV maybe odd program and the News and other stuff I record or do a catch up on Rte or iPlayer and android box. I wanted to switch to saorview but contract with Virgin up to Oct and €200 to break it.

     As for RTE yeah could change the name of channels but will sort out Harmony remote first as each time I ask for RTE Alexa turns on the Radio


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Think I will start with getting the remote working first as OH still using old remotes.

    Your OH using the old remotes still would certainly complicate things. You end up with the Harmony remote getting out of sync with the activity it is currently on.

    Best to spend an hour or two when the OH isn't around getting the Harmony setup properly and easy and consistent to use. Then take the batteries out of the old remotes and hide them :D Show the OH the Harmony and get them using it.

    After a week or so, go back to getting Alexa set up with it.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Yeah need to get the remote sorted first.

     I use the Horizon to watch TV but to be honest I don’t watch that much TV maybe odd program and the News and other stuff I record or do a catch up on Rte or iPlayer and android box. I wanted to switch to saorview but contract with Virgin up to Oct and €200 to break it.

     As for RTE yeah could change the name of channels but will sort out Harmony remote first as each time I ask for RTE Alexa turns on the Radio

    the reason i ask is i still can't get my head around the double volume problem. i think it's an unnecessary problem. presumably you have your virgin box hooked up hdmi to the tv, audio over hdmi is sent as i2s, which is volume independent, which means there should be a setting on the virgin box to stop it controlling the volume. 99% of sources out there do not adjust the volume on the hdmi signal. it's up to whatever device is doing the actual sound producing, in your case the tv. turning off the volume control on the virgin box would mean you send teh digital equivalent of a line level signal(the traditiolnal red/white cables you see on audio gear) and all volume would be controlled by the tv

    Honestly, i cannot think of a single reason why controlling the audio on the virgin box is a good idea, i know you need to now to balance the audio, but if you send the audio properly you won't have this problem


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    mossym wrote: »
    Honestly, i cannot think of a single reason why controlling the audio on the virgin box is a good idea, i know you need to now to balance the audio, but if you send the audio properly you won't have this problem

    If the Virgin box is the one and only way you watch the TV, then I suppose this feature would allow you to use the Virgin remote for everything and no need to use the TV remote at all. One remote rather then two.

    But this definitely doesn't apply to the Harmony remote, as you say it makes no sense to use the Virgin boxes volume control then.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    bk wrote: »
    If the Virgin box is the one and only way you watch the TV, then I suppose this feature would allow you to use the Virgin remote for everything and no need to use the TV remote at all. One remote rather then two.

    But this definitely doesn't apply to the Harmony remote, as you say it makes no sense to use the Virgin boxes volume control then.

    you'd still need to turn on the tv. CEC was an option but notoriously buggy

    they could have copied sky, which allows you to program the sky remote with the codes for your tv and control the tv volume, power and most of the settings with the sky remote.

    don't often praise sky for many things, but that they got right


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    mossym wrote: »
    you'd still need to turn on the tv. CEC was an option but notoriously buggy

    Yes, power the TV on with CEC. And yes I agree it is buggy.

    I also agree that Sky's approach is better. But then most people didn't know how to set it up in the first place. It was normally the installers who did it.

    If CEC worked consistently (and in fairness it does for some people) then the Virgin approach is argubally easier to get up and working.

    But as you say CEC is the pain point here.

    However in summary, I'd encourage Horizon users with a Harmony remote to forget about the volume control on the Harmony remote and use the TV's volume control instead. It will be much easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Got the Harmony remote working for Horizon, Tv and external sound system. Also got it linked to the Android box but difficult when opening play store need to figure that out and update of apps but can scroll easily enough.

    Also set up activities to turn on TV and linked that up to Alexa along with changing channels.

    However activity set up so tv comes on, HDMI 2 port and Android box and sound system come on but I can't source sound to external optical sound still on TV sound. Tried amending and re running activity but no joy yet.

    Anyone got any ideas or tips to get this activity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭clintondaly


    Got the Harmony remote working for Horizon, Tv and external sound system. Also got it linked to the Android box but difficult when opening play store need to figure that out and update of apps but can scroll easily enough.

    Also set up activities to turn on TV and linked that up to Alexa along with changing channels.

    However activity set up so tv comes on, HDMI 2 port and Android box and sound system come on but I can't source sound to external optical sound still on TV sound. Tried amending and re running activity but no joy yet.

    Anyone got any ideas or tips to get this activity?

    Have you got the right device which controls your sound as part of the activity set up ?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Got the Harmony remote working for Horizon, Tv and external sound system. Also got it linked to the Android box but difficult when opening play store need to figure that out and update of apps but can scroll easily enough.

    Also set up activities to turn on TV and linked that up to Alexa along with changing channels.

    However activity set up so tv comes on, HDMI 2 port and Android box and sound system come on but I can't source sound to external optical sound still on TV sound. Tried amending and re running activity but no joy yet.

    Anyone got any ideas or tips to get this activity?

    how does it work with the normal remotes? what do you need to do to get it working with those?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    [font=Times New Roman","serif]Have you got the right device which controls your sound as part of the activity set up ?[/font][font=Times New Roman","serif]

    Yes I have a yamaha rx-v359 Av receiver and Amp and have synch up the remote for these so I can turn up the sound using these. Synch the remote for this on initial set up. Its just when I open the activity its source is TV sound and I have to select External sound on source[/font]



    [font=Times New Roman","serif]how does it work with the normal remotes? what do you need to do to get it working with those?[/font][font=Times New Roman","serif]

    Yeah works ok for the Horizon Box and Samsung TV so in the initial set up synch the remotes up had to wire it up to laptop first to update it and then used combination of app and desktop login. Ok for the changing of channels, volume and info on program. Have to check re recording and pause of live TV but don’t think it’s too difficult just have not looked at it thoroughly yet.

    Can also synch the Neo A2 lite remote for the Minix android box but sometimes have to revert to old remote but not much[/font]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭clintondaly


    [font=Times New Roman","serif]Have you got the right device which controls your sound as part of the activity set up ?[/font][font=Times New Roman","serif]

    Yes I have a yamaha rx-v359 Av receiver and Amp and have synch up the remote for these so I can turn up the sound using these. Synch the remote for this on initial set up. Its just when I open the activity its source is TV sound and I have to select External sound on source[/font]



    [font=Times New Roman","serif]how does it work with the normal remotes? what do you need to do to get it working with those?[/font][font=Times New Roman","serif]

    Yeah works ok for the Horizon Box and Samsung TV so in the initial set up synch the remotes up had to wire it up to laptop first to update it and then used combination of app and desktop login. Ok for the changing of channels, volume and info on program. Have to check re recording and pause of live TV but don’t think it’s too difficult just have not looked at it thoroughly yet.

    Can also synch the Neo A2 lite remote for the Minix android box but sometimes have to revert to old remote but not much[/font]

    What I discovered last night and which may be of help is that you can assign specific functions of some remotes into the activity you are currently on

    For instance I have a denon x2300 AV receiver and when watching a film as part of my "Movie" set up I found myself having to leave the activity on the remote in order to go into devices and activate my sky box or change input modes in order to go back to Sky again,what I have now done is include the ability to switch input modes within the movie activity,I have now done this with all activities(Music/Media Player etc.) which means from within any activity I can switch input modes,I did this through the PC APP.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym



    [font=Times New Roman","serif]how does it work with the normal remotes? what do you need to do to get it working with those?[/font][font=Times New Roman","serif]

    Yeah works ok for the Horizon Box and Samsung TV so in the initial set up synch the remotes up had to wire it up to laptop first to update it and then used combination of app and desktop login. Ok for the changing of channels, volume and info on program. Have to check re recording and pause of live TV but don’t think it’s too difficult just have not looked at it thoroughly yet.

    Can also synch the Neo A2 lite remote for the Minix android box but sometimes have to revert to old remote but not much[/font]

    sorry, i meant how do you get the optical out on the tv working with the original remotes.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    What I discovered last night and which may be of help is that you can assign specific functions of some remotes into the activity you are currently on

    For instance I have a denon x2300 AV receiver and when watching a film as part of my "Movie" set up I found myself having to leave the activity on the remote in order to go into devices and activate my sky box or change input modes in order to go back to Sky again,what I have now done is include the ability to switch input modes within the movie activity,I have now done this with all activities(Music/Media Player etc.) which means from within any activity I can switch input modes,I did this through the PC APP.

    how come you have to leave the activity? if a device is used in the activity it should be added to it, if you have different ways of watching mvoies i'd set up an activity for each. i have a bluray player and a htpc i use for watching movies so i set up different activities for each.

    the harmony doesn't, or at least didn't unless they have changed it recently, remember any commands you use while in device mode outside activities, so it can screw up the sequence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭clintondaly


    mossym wrote: »
    how come you have to leave the activity? if a device is used in the activity it should be added to it, if you have different ways of watching mvoies i'd set up an activity for each. i have a bluray player and a htpc i use for watching movies so i set up different activities for each.

    the harmony doesn't, or at least didn't unless they have changed it recently, remember any commands you use while in device mode outside activities, so it can screw up the sequence.

    When I say leave the activity I mean,If I have finished "watching a movie"(Roku 3 set up with Plex) and want to return to "Watching TV" I have a denon receiver set up for Music/Movie/Games sound modes etc. which also changes the sound as part of the activity so when I need to go back to TV I now have the Sat input button as a custom option in the "Watching Movie" set up and rather than come out of the activity and go back in through the "watch Tv" I use the sat input button which in turn switches the tv over to Sat and the sound mode then changes automatically and the remote knows I am now in this mode and acknowledges the correct activity as "watching TV"

    Does that make sense,its probably more to do with my set up,I see it as a shortcut back to watching TV


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    sorry, i meant how do you get the optical out on the tv working with the original remotes.

    When I was setting up the activity I added TV, Receiver, Android Box and source HDMI2 to come on. So I call this Movie and these all come on. The Receiver was controlled by a separate remote so had to synch that up. However when Movie activity comes on both the TV sound and Receiver sound are on when all I want is the one, for the Yamaha Receiver. I can use the Harmony remote to increase the volume when movie activity is on
    I also have TV activity set up so that turns on TV to HDMI and opens up with RTE1. Sound is TV sound. Then I use the Harmony remote to increase volume and change channel.
    I also have ability for Alexa to turn these 2 different activities on. I have never tried to switch other than saying Alexa turn TV off and then saying Alexa turn Movie on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭eddiem74


    sorry, i meant how do you get the optical out on the tv working with the original remotes.

    When I was setting up the activity I added TV, Receiver, Android Box and source HDMI2 to come on. So I call this Movie and these all come on. The Receiver was controlled by a separate remote so had to synch that up. However when Movie activity comes on both the TV sound and Receiver sound are on when all I want is the one, for the Yamaha Receiver. I can use the Harmony remote to increase the volume when movie activity is on
    I also have TV activity set up so that turns on TV to HDMI and opens up with RTE1. Sound is TV sound. Then I use the Harmony remote to increase volume and change channel.
    I also have ability for Alexa to turn these 2 different activities on. I have never tried to switch other than saying Alexa turn TV off and then saying Alexa turn Movie on

    You might need to add an extra step to each activity to mute or unmute the TV.

    It can be a challenge when switching between a receiver and TV sound as normally TV speakers would be disabled and receiver solely used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Cheers will have a look at the activities

    in the meantime how can I set up Harmony remote button so that one of the buttons can be used as source button so I can change sound source from Harmony remote and not Samsung remote


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭setanta1984


    Cheers will have a look at the activities

    in the meantime how can I set up Harmony remote button so that one of the buttons can be used as source button so I can change sound source from Harmony remote and not Samsung remote


    In the mobile app from the swipe from left menu, go to Harmony Setup > Add/Edit Devices & Activities > Remote & Hub. Whatever remote you have should be listed at the top to allow you to customise any specific buttons for when in Activities or Devices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭eddiem74


    Cheers will have a look at the activities

    in the meantime how can I set up Harmony remote button so that one of the buttons can be used as source button so I can change sound source from Harmony remote and not Samsung remote

    https://support.myharmony.com/en-ru/customizing-buttons-on-your-remotes-screen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Cheers

    Tried Synching up the Samsung Remote to the Harmony via the desktop app. Did all the steps and assigned a button as the Source and then pressed the source button and it assigned it to the remote with long press and short press as source

    However when I turn on movie and press the assigned button I still cannot get the source to change. However I did see the below on the Harmony desktop app

    Harmony is able to control basic functionality such as power, volume and changing channels. However this device and its original remote uses radio frequency (RF) technology for sending other commands which is not compatible with an infrared (IR) based remote such as Harmony.


    So maybe it can only do the basics and not change or assign buttons?


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Well it can only control what your Samsung device allows to be controlled by IR (or bluetooth and IP Control).

    In the US Harmony has a module that also allows it to control RF devices. But it doesn't seem to be available in Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Below are the 2 remotes that came with the TV

     https://www.fwdmagazine.be/assets/upload/import/2016/33/ue55ku6400-remote_par.jpg.

     
    I am using the standard one below

     
    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51PJkYUgE5L._SY355_.jpg

     
    I can do the basics change channels etc but still cannot link the source button to a button on the Harmony

     I was messing around with the desktop app and the Android App to try to get the Source button assigned to the Harmony Elite remote but could not. I think the IR and RF note was to do with the Horizon remote as noticed this after posting it. I can also switch between Activities. So I have TV and Movie so can switch between the 2 using Alexa. So when I change the source from TV Sound to Optical sound on the Movie activity and then change the activity from Movie to TV the sound is sourced via the Optical. Have not looked at muting the TV sound via the Movie Activity.

     
    Need to look more into it


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭setanta1984


    If you change a default button assignment it is done on a per-activity basis - so for instance if you map Button 1 to 'Source on Samsung remote' manually in one activity, it only affects that activity - if you want it in more than one activity you need to add it to each manually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭rambunctious1


    Can anyone confirm that the Horizon Guide button can be programmed on the Elite and not as a macro going through the menu? The device is setup as Samsung SMT-G7400 but trying to teach the command to bring up the EPG does nothing. I've tried both methods, pointing the Horizon remote at the Elite and the hub and pressing the Guide button but nothing happens... no response at all. After translating some German/Dutch forums, they seem to suggest that only a macro can be used for this function. A factory reset did nothing either... other than frustrate me at having to program all the devices and activities again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    The guide button does work on the Harmony along with the info and play, pause record. On the initial set up I synch up the Horizon remote to Harmony and works ok. Not at home so not sure what buttons on Harmony App do this?
    As for changing the assigned buttons. I did not change it on the activity they remain the same. What I was trying to do was choosing an un assigned button on the Harmony remote so that when I do turn on the Movie activity at least I can change the sound source from Harmony remote and not Samsung


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