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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,346 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Badly fukt wrote:
    Will they be telling the truth to the electorate when they canvas, that they are a single party!


    Just as soon as SF admit that they're run by the army council and want a country modeled on Venezuela.


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    Just as soon as SF admit that they're run by the army council and want a country modeled on Venezuela.

    But, but, but SF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I think that ALL candidates should be canvassing on the basis that they will do their utmost to form a government and act as spokesperson for the electorate.

    Now, my sunlounger and Kindle are calling me.

    So if a party says they won't talk to the party with the most votes you would deny them a vote Maryanne? If another party say they won't enter coalition with another party and do, will you do the same to them?

    Or will you go with the nod and wink of Irish politics again?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,203 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod:

    Sinn Fein discussion goes in the SF thread folks, cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Do you think the power swap two will try to cod the electorate next time? Will they canvas as a coalition or as separate parties? Tough one to navigate. Vote for one, get the other as a brucie bonus.

    Long way to go.

    Looking at the figures, FG + SD + Labour + Greens get to 44%. An alternative coalition of FF + SF + Aontu is on 42%.

    The poll actually opens up more possibilities than the limited scenario you are putting forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Looking at the figures, FG + SD + Labour + Greens get to 44%. An alternative coalition of FF + SF + Aontu is on 42%.

    The poll actually opens up more possibilities than the limited scenario you are putting forward.

    There were plenty of possibilities last time as there will be next time too. Only some limiting things though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    On those numbers,the easisest route to power for SF would be for leo vradakar to actually stick to his guns next time and relish opposition
    But who knows


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    On those numbers,the easisest route to power for SF would be for leo vradakar to actually stick to his guns next time and relish opposition
    But who knows

    You think Leo the leak will still be there as leader? I bet much doubt it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    On those numbers,the easisest route to power for SF would be for leo vradakar to actually stick to his guns next time and relish opposition
    But who knows

    Leo will be tanning his guns somewhere I reckon, next time.


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    You think Leo the leak will still be there as leader? I bet much doubt it!

    I'd say so :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭Floppybits




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Floppybits wrote: »

    Rock up Hazel Chu: "as a woman from a diverse ethnic background, I deserve it"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Rock up Hazel Chu: "as a woman from a diverse ethnic background, I deserve it"?

    God help us all if that's the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Floppybits wrote: »
    God help us all if that's the case.

    And so say all of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    There were plenty of possibilities last time as there will be next time too. Only some limiting things though.

    The point is that the fake narrative you posted of the two main parties is completely wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I asked a question.

    Here you go:
    Do you think the power swap two will try to cod the electorate next time? Will they canvas as a coalition or as separate parties? Tough one to navigate. Vote for one, get the other as a brucie bonus
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Difficult to fight a by-election when you are in coalition.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1386954153285591040


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,988 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Kate O'Connell a shoe-in I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    A few media articles actually praising the government, or at least recognising their efforts, have surfaced in the last few days.
    Could it be?
    If there's good weather this summer the polls will change too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Rock up Hazel Chu: "as a woman from a diverse ethnic background, I deserve it"?

    Ossian Smyth ran a mile from endorsing her, on radio this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    First preferences by party in the 2020 general election:

    FG 27.7%
    Greens 22.4%
    SF 16.1%
    FF 13.8%
    Labour 7.9%

    Hard to see it ending up as anything other than a FG seat in the by election.


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭costacorta


    markodaly wrote: »
    Kate O'Connell a shoe-in I think.

    Hope so as something damn sexy about her every time I se her on tv .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,011 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    First preferences by party in the 2020 general election:

    FG 27.7%
    Greens 22.4%
    SF 16.1%
    FF 13.8%
    Labour 7.9%

    Hard to see it ending up as anything other than a FG seat in the by election.

    You'd assume so unless there's a significant protest vote for whoever SF line out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,960 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    markodaly wrote: »
    Kate O'Connell a shoe-in I think.

    Not if Leo has his way especially after what she said about him on the radio last month. I think Lynn Boylan might nick the seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,960 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Stephen Donnelly saying everyone should not be fixated by the target of 82% offered a dose by the end of June, the 31st of June he stated twice aswell!!

    Is this an admission that we wont be reaching this target?

    Was it wise for the Govt to ignore NPHET yesterday regarding adding more countries to mandotary hotel quarantine now that they are basically saying targets won't be met in vaccinations?
    I was asked in March for my PPS number so that I can get vaccinated as I have a compromised immune system and I am in the at high risk category. This means I am in the 4th group that will be vaccinated. It's been over 6 weeks since I emailed my PPS number and I still don't know when I will be vaccinated. I don't think the government will meet their June targets.


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    skimpydoo wrote: »
    I was asked in March for my PPS number so that I can get vaccinated as I have a compromised immune system and I am in the at high risk category. This means I am in the 4th group that will be vaccinated. It's been over 6 weeks since I emailed my PPS number and I still don't know when I will be vaccinated. I don't think the government will meet their June targets.

    My brother rang his gp this morning,cohort 7 and is being done next wenesday
    If you are waiting,you need to be pushy because mistakes happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Taoiseach will 'speak to the nation at 6pm'.

    What's the point? His minions have leaked all the data already. Shambolic carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    I was asked in March for my PPS number so that I can get vaccinated as I have a compromised immune system and I am in the at high risk category. This means I am in the 4th group that will be vaccinated. It's been over 6 weeks since I emailed my PPS number and I still don't know when I will be vaccinated. I don't think the government will meet their June targets.

    Did you send it to the correct email address?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    What's the point? His minions have leaked all the data already. Shambolic carry on.

    Nobody cares :)
    What people are delighted about and I'm hearing it all day is,we can all see the path out now nearing
    Momentum is building
    By the end of july we may have caught up with or passed the UK's progress in that vaccines will be available to all


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Taoiseach will 'speak to the nation at 6pm'.

    What's the point? His minions have leaked all the data already. Shambolic carry on.

    Terrible carry-on altogether from your former party :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Who here disagrees with the move to relax restrictions? Now is the time to register your disapproval.
    It will be better than looking wise in hindsight if/when the 4th wave hits in a month's time. Speak up now (not like in December)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Did anyone hear the latest shocker about Norma Foley?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Taoiseach will 'speak to the nation at 6pm'.

    What's the point? His minions have leaked all the data already. Shambolic carry on.


    As soon as I heard that I pictured Leo the leak peeking around the door to get the scoop out first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Shebean wrote: »
    As soon as I heard that I pictured Leo the leak peeking around the door to get the scoop out first.

    You spend much time daydreaming of Leo then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Did anyone hear the latest shocker about Norma Foley?

    No but I heard Stephen Donnelly on the wireless yesterday,

    https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1387306522703761408?s=19

    Aren't the Healy Rea clan of FF stock too? Different calender them lads work off too.

    https://twitter.com/JerryONeill_13/status/1083392449865756672?s=19


    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Terrible carry-on altogether from your former party :rolleyes:

    Not 'my party'. A party I voted for. There is a difference, if you wouldn't mind observing it.

    I think this is a new phenomenon by the way. A special broadcast/address the nation slot by a Taoiseach demanded more respect than this.

    Maybe it's a casualty of social media or is it the competitiveness of the power swap merger?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Who here disagrees with the move to relax restrictions? Now is the time to register your disapproval.
    It will be better than looking wise in hindsight if/when the 4th wave hits in a month's time. Speak up now (not like in December)

    Yes, all posters against the relaxation of restrictions, make yourself known. You will be able to say I told you so after the fourth wave.

    Any of the Social Democrat or PBP supporters want to back the Zero Covid idea now, or is that gone too?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Unless Macron,Merkle,Johnson,sturgeon etc etc etc are members of FF or FG,then no,hearing from your PM as to next steps for action in the worlds worst pandemic,in a tv adress is not an FG FF vanity creation :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Not 'my party'. A party I voted for. There is a difference, if you wouldn't mind observing it.

    I think this is a new phenomenon by the way. A special broadcast/address the nation slot by a Taoiseach demanded more respect than this.

    Maybe it's a casualty of social media or is it the competitiveness of the power swap merger?

    Seymour Crawford to Matt Carthy. Quite the transition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    McMurphy wrote: »
    No but I heard Stephen Donnelly on the wireless yesterday,

    https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1387306522703761408?s=19

    Aren't the Healy Rea clan of FF stock too? Different calender them lads work off too.

    https://twitter.com/JerryONeill_13/status/1083392449865756672?s=19


    :D

    Jaysis when Stephen has ye down to grumbling about stuff like this, he must be flying :)

    Meanwhile, nobody has anything to say about Norma. She schooled yis all good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Seymour Crawford to Matt Carthy. Quite the transition.

    Heather to Matt actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Yes, all posters against the relaxation of restrictions, make yourself known. You will be able to say I told you so after the fourth wave.

    Any of the Social Democrat or PBP supporters want to back the Zero Covid idea now, or is that gone too?

    If they are doing this in tandem with the advice of the experts...good. If only they had done that last time, we would not have had unnecessary death and suffering and this long long lockdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If they are doing this in tandem with the advice of the experts...good. If only they had done that last time, we would not have had unnecessary death and suffering and this long long lockdown.

    So you welcome the relaxation of restrictions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    So you welcome the relaxation of restrictions?

    if the experts agree...of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    if the experts agree...of course.

    Some of the experts agree, some of them don't. If you open any newspaper, you will read differing expert views. So where do you stand?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Heather to Matt actually.

    What made you change?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    If they are doing this in tandem with the advice of the experts...good. If only they had done that last time, we would not have had unnecessary death and suffering and this long long lockdown.

    Define "in tandem with"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What made you change?

    Enda's lies about change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,090 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Define "in tandem with"

    Are they ignoring asny expert advice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Are they ignoring asny expert advice?

    Of course they are, there are experts every day calling for Zero Covid, other experts saying we don't need any lockdown at all.

    You want a view on Covid, you will find an expert to back you up.

    Only ditch hurlers hide behind experts.


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