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Rtx 3090, did I buy a lemon?

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  • 11-04-2021 10:18am
    #1
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭


    I have been looking for an rtx for my new build (like every one else) and had no joy.
    Today I think I just got one on Amazon.es but it's all in Spanish (go figure).
    Can anyone advise if the...

    "Palit GeForce RTX 3090 GamingPro Tarjeta gráfica GDDR6X de 24 GB, núcleo 10496, GPU de 1395 MHz, Boost, 3 x DisplayPort, HDMI, Advanced TurboFan 3.0"

    ...is a total lemon or have I managed to clinch a hens tooth?

    Please give me good news and that I haven't pissed away €600


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    #2
    manshay
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭manshay


    I saw several similar items on amazon spain and italy. They seem to offer 3090's for crazy low money, they also seem to mostly be german based amazon account but are not available on amazon.de. They are not dispatched from Amazon which is a flag too.

    I would cancel the order immediately!

    I have placed 2 orders on the "trigger finger RTX search" and cancelled immediately.

    Its 99.99999999999999999999% a scam.

    Comment from reviews:
    "This is a scam, they advertise the products less than half a price, but they never send you anything, they are scam, just blocking your money for more than 10 days with no response at all. Avoid this Seller!"


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    #3
    Outkast_IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 7,515 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Amazon marketplace has turned the Amazon sites into a veritable minefield . They aren't too much better than eBay at the rate they are going.


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    #4
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Covered by amazon protection means nothing? No? Dammit


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    #5
    Giblet
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    If it seems too good to be true....


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    #6
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Well tried to cancel with amazon.
    Tried to cancel with BOI but its too late.

    ... Great start to the day :(


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    [Deleted User]
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    Hard Lesson. Been that soldier, well feel like that after buying my intel mac mini.
    Even if I bought off apple website.


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    TheValeyard
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    Probably a broken one.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    Inviere
    Registered Users Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Did the product page say "covered by Amazon customer protection"? Either way, you'll likely be covered under your credit cards own protection...you'll just need to wait long enough to prove to them that it was indeed a scam (assuming you used credit card and not debit card)

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    #10
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Inviere wrote: »
    Did the product page say "covered by Amazon customer protection"? Either way, you'll likely be covered under your credit cards own protection...you'll just need to wait long enough to prove to them that it was indeed a scam (assuming you used credit card and not debit card)
    Yeah covered by amazon customer protection, so hopefully that helps.

    It seems the scam is that the cancel the order and ask you to make a bank transfer.
    Not sure how that works if they already have the money, why cancel? But if that's the scam I might get a lucky break.
    Fingers crossed


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    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,607 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    600 quid for a GPU that's hens teeth to get at the normal rrp of 3 times that is one of the biggest red flags possible.

    Amazon support should be able to help you out though, they usually back the buyer 99% of the time.


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    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    600 quid for a GPU that's hens teeth to get at the normal rrp of 3 times that is one of the biggest red flags possible.

    Amazon support should be able to help you out though, they usually back the buyer 99% of the time.
    yeah, i wasn't up with prices and figured it was just cheaper in Spain.

    Anyway it seems the scam is that they cancel your order and then ask you to make payment via bank transfer. So fingers crossed that's what the pull.
    Pain in the hoop but I might just dodge this bullet yet.....


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    GHOST MGG
    Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭GHOST MGG


    Thats the usual amazon 3rd seller scam...they put up a 3090 for 600...you pay..seller contacts you saying they will ship it to you if you pay them in bitcoin instead..burned a few people on some of the alert discords....600 for a 3090 which usually sells for 3k....should have been a dead give away to be honest

    I hope you get your money back i really do


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    #14
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Got an email from amazon saying the order is cancelled and I'll get the refund in 3 to 5 working days.

    Sigh. Thanks for the help/moral support


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    #15
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Boo ya! Money back in my account!


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    #16
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    So now my moneys back, I see an RTX 3060 for €800. This time from a legit seller.

    How much should I be spending? I'm seeing €600, but is that realistic?

    Specifically a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Vision OC 12G, 12288 MB GDDR6


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    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,607 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Zulu wrote: »
    So now my moneys back, I see an RTX 3060 for €800. This time from a legit seller.

    How much should I be spending? I'm seeing €600, but is that realistic?

    Specifically a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Vision OC 12G, 12288 MB GDDR6

    Depends how desperate you are I guess, RRP was £420 for them on Currys, so €600 is a fairly big markup but €800 is mental and more than rrp for a 3080 or 6800XT.


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    #18
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Depends how desperate you are I guess, RRP was £420 for them on Currys, so €600 is a fairly big markup but €800 is mental and more than rrp for a 3080 or 6800XT.

    I'm desperate, but not that desperate I guess. I've a 6 year old machine and long overdue an upgrade. Gfx cards are breaking my heart


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    #19
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Depends how desperate you are I guess, RRP was £420 for them on Currys, so €600 is a fairly big markup but €800 is mental and more than rrp for a 3080 or 6800XT.

    Thanks Squidgy


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    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,220 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Zulu wrote: »
    So now my moneys back, I see an RTX 3060 for €800. This time from a legit seller.

    How much should I be spending? I'm seeing €600, but is that realistic?

    Specifically a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Vision OC 12G, 12288 MB GDDR6

    You using the discord parts alert?

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    #21
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,767 ✭✭✭SeanW


    The graphics card market is a dumpster fire right now and its not likely to get better any time soon. I'd really hate to reward scalpers with crazy money and even if you have a stock alert, you have literally seconds to buy a card before it goes out of stock. Can you make do with what you have until the PC hardware market is in something resembling a state of sanity?


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    #22
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    SeanW wrote: »
    Can you make do with what you have until the PC hardware market is in something resembling a state of sanity?
    I mean it's working. But it's ****.


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    #23
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    You using the discord parts alert?

    No just gpu tracker. Must try to find that discord, thanks


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    #24
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,364 ✭✭✭Homelander


    What CPU do you have? Might be time for a full new system, and pre-builts are the only way forward at the moment. A six year old CPU is likely to choke any of these new GPU's in most modern games.


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    #25
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    oh it's time for a full new system alright! Therein lies my problem I've been holding off months (since last summer) and starting to loose patience.

    CPU: Intel Core i5 4670 @ 3.40GHz
    RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz
    GPU: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
    Storage: 250GB SSD & 1TB Sata HDD


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    #26
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    You using the discord parts alert?
    Is this the "crtl-Alt-Stock" discord? or something else?


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    #27
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,220 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Zulu wrote: »
    Is this the "crtl-Alt-Stock" discord? or something else?

    I'll check the name

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    #28
    Aodhan5000
    Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Aodhan5000


    Zulu wrote: »
    Is this the "crtl-Alt-Stock" discord? or something else?

    It's called part alert


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    #29
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Aodhan5000 wrote: »
    It's called part alert
    humm, when i search for part alert I only get "CtrlAltStock.com"


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    #30
    Confused11811
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Confused11811


    When using part alerts twitter page I've noticed on occasion there is a time lag between the notifications I received on my phone and on my desktop, while it doesn't happen all the time in general I found desktop notifications to be quicker. I've also found that some GPU stock may be available for a number of minutes before part alert sounds. For example on Sunday I got this amazon Spain preorder :- https://www.amazon.es/Gigabyte-Radeon-6700-Gaming-GDDR6/dp/B08Y746XN7, it comes in and out of stock a lot. Since Sunday I've kept a periodic eye on the web page and on a couple of occasions I noticed it was in stock and the twitter part alert sounded about a minute later. When your competing against bots that time difference is a killer.


    The GPU market is nuts, the pre-order I got from amazon is 200 euro above RRP, I'm not sure if ill go a head with it but 200 euro above RRP seems normal from none reseller. Last night I spotted this 1660 Super - https://www.alternate.de/EVGA/GeForce-GTX-1660-SUPER-SC-ULTRA-GAMING-Grafikkarte/html/product/1594416. Out of curiosity I put through an order (well more of a reserve process with Alternate) today they came back with a quote of 412 euro with shipping to Ireland, again its well above what you expect to pay from retailer but its better than adverts :pac:

    The RTX series cards that do appear on amazon (direct from amazon) are impossible for non bot buyers to get.

    EDIT:- The Alternate DE link above is now dead as it's out of stock but its was a EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super SC Ultra


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    #31
    H3llR4iser
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    I've seen these Spanish listings for months now, they come and go. I wonder if it's a scam attempt, or just someone with a lot of time on their hands trying to fool the bots.


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