Chinese Android Phones 3 - Read First Post!

Thargor · 25-08-2018 10:51pm

Just tell them its a graphics card or something, not that hard to get around.

BKWDR · 25-08-2018 11:01pm

corkie wrote: »

This is the Ulefone Power 5. It's a 13,000 mAh smartphone
capable of close to a week of battery life.
It's the highest capacity smartphone I've ever featured on Unbox Therapy.

Looks sweet.
No audio jack or NFC though.. I know Bluetooth headphones are the norm but NFC is fairly standard now, no?

AlmightyCushion · 25-08-2018 11:28pm

BKWDR wrote: »

Looks sweet.
No audio jack or NFC though.. I know Bluetooth headphones are the norm but NFC is fairly standard now, no?

Unfortunately not but it should be. None of the Xiaomi phones seem to have NFC either. It's a real pity as they have some cracking phones.

corkie · 25-08-2018 11:30pm

BKWDR wrote: »

Looks sweet.
No audio jack or NFC though.. I know Bluetooth headphones are the norm but NFC is fairly standard now, no?

Not on China/Indian phones as there is alternative popular payment methods there.

Suckit · 26-08-2018 2:02am

corkie wrote: »

Not on China/Indian phones as there is alternative popular payment methods there.

I think it's mainly the QR code and a lot of Alipay. They do use alternative methods to pay, but NFC covers a broad spectrum of things. So it doesn't really make sense (to me anyway) that they focus on it as a payment system (and that almost always seems to be the reply).
It's also not expensive to implement (allegedly).

https://www.androidpit.com/what-is-nfc
https://tech-vise.com/10-uses-for-nfc-tags-straight-out-of-the-future/
https://trendblog.net/creative-and-useful-ways-to-use-nfc-tags-with-your-smartphone/

BKWDR · 26-08-2018 1:16pm

Actually I clicked on the video and although the battery is sweet it's not the nicest of phones but beggers belief how they haven't developed smaller batteries that operate for days.

I have a oneplus 3T at the moment but will defo be buying a xiaomi phone or whatever is hot at the time after it. So much good value
I guess the things like nfc and headphone jack are the price you pay

Shooter_galway · 26-08-2018 1:45pm

Can anyone recommend a phone that has good call and wifi reception and decent battery. Living in countryside and had a nexus 5x which died a death. Changed to lg x power and have very little reception and have to be sitting on router to get good wifi. Budget in around the 200 - 250 mark. Thanks in advance

Guy:Incognito · 26-08-2018 3:41pm

BKWDR wrote: »

Looks sweet.
No audio jack or NFC though.. I know Bluetooth headphones are the norm but NFC is fairly standard now, no?

I'd be much more worried about ulephones ability to make a phone that actually worked. I've had 2 before and they were disasters.

smileyj1987 · 26-08-2018 6:40pm

Has anyone used the xiaomi a2 lite , i have an s7 edge with a cracked screen and thinking of this as a replacement for it.

Suckit · 26-08-2018 9:54pm

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Has anyone used the xiaomi a2 lite , i have an s7 edge with a cracked screen and thinking of this as a replacement for it.

I've not used one, but that and the pocophone F1 seem to be on offer in many places at the minute. Just a heads up if buying.

It was €159 on German amazon before I left my house earlier. I just checked it now and it has gone back up again, but may be worth watching. (2.3 inch

)
https://www.amazon.de/Xiaomi-Lite-32gb-Dual-Sim-Gold/dp/B07FYN3DV1/

I think €180 is the normal Amazon price.

smileyj1987 · 26-08-2018 10:26pm

Suckit wrote: »

I've not used one, but that and the pocophone F1 seem to be on offer in many places at the minute. Just a heads up if buying.

It was €159 on German amazon before I left my house earlier. I just checked it now and it has gone back up again, but may be worth watching. (2.3 inch )
https://www.amazon.de/Xiaomi-Lite-32gb-Dual-Sim-Gold/dp/B07FYN3DV1/

I think €180 is the normal Amazon price.

Ah cool and its just the fact the a2 lite caught my eye , nice design and decent specs for the price and cheers for the heads up.

coolbeanz93 · 26-08-2018 10:39pm

Hey lads I lost my Redmi note 4 and am torn between going for the Meizu 15 lite and the Mi a2 lite. Meizu have opened a new shop on Aliexpress which gives about 20% off, bringing it down to 190 including vat free postage. That's about 20 more than the mi a2 lite. I was just wondering is that a bargain and is it a better overall phone than the mi a2 lite because I really do like the look and screen size of it. here's the link - https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Global-Version-Meizu-15-Lite-M15-4GB-32GB-M871H-Smartphone-Snapdragon-626-Octa-Core-5-46/4424199_32912042959.html

smileyj1987 · 26-08-2018 10:43pm

coolbeanz93 wrote: »

Hey lads I lost my Redmi note 4 and am torn between going for the Meizu 15 lite and the Mi a2 lite. Meizu have opened a new shop on Aliexpress which gives about 20% off, bringing it down to 190 including vat free postage. That's about 20 more than the mi a2 lite. I was just wondering is that a bargain and is it a better overall phone than the mi a2 lite because I really do like the look and screen size of it. here's the link - https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Global-Version-Meizu-15-Lite-M15-4GB-32GB-M871H-Smartphone-Snapdragon-626-Octa-Core-5-46/4424199_32912042959.html

The mi a2 lite has a higher res screen and more storage because the a2 has got 64gb as standard on them from the ones i have saw on sale.

allthedoyles · 26-08-2018 11:32pm

The battery alone would make me buy the MI-A2 Lite

allthedoyles · 27-08-2018 12:02am

MI- Cloud are looking for money off me - anyone ever get this message ?

corks finest · 28-08-2018 4:22am

allthedoyles wrote: »

MI- Cloud are looking for money off me - anyone ever get this message ?

Yes,to buy more storage

hooplah · 30-08-2018 1:03pm

could anyone reccommend a phone for the missus?

I'm looking for something ideally sub €300 with NFC. Ideally it will ship from within the EU. I've had a look aroudn but I'm new to Chinese phones and am having a hard time navigating the similar model names.

Iseedeadpixels · 30-08-2018 2:10pm

hooplah wrote: »

could anyone reccommend a phone for the missus?

I'm looking for something ideally sub €300 with NFC. Ideally it will ship from within the EU. I've had a look aroudn but I'm new to Chinese phones and am having a hard time navigating the similar model names.

www.kimovil.com and you can pick what you want.

Suckit · 30-08-2018 2:11pm

hooplah wrote: »

could anyone reccommend a phone for the missus?

I'm looking for something ideally sub €300 with NFC. Ideally it will ship from within the EU. I've had a look aroudn but I'm new to Chinese phones and am having a hard time navigating the similar model names.

What size screen are you looking for?

GBX · 30-08-2018 2:18pm

https://www.honorbuy.com/28-eu-direct Check on here. Plenty of options and direct from EU so no customs. Couple of days delivery.

sydthebeat · 30-08-2018 3:38pm

hooplah wrote: »

could anyone reccommend a phone for the missus?

I'm looking for something ideally sub €300 with NFC. Ideally it will ship from within the EU. I've had a look aroudn but I'm new to Chinese phones and am having a hard time navigating the similar model names.

https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones/f_max_d+eurPrice.290,f_min_dr+value.3072,f_min_ds+value.32768,fe_storage-external-storage,i_fp+slug.front:side,fe_bands-lte-b3-1800,fe_bands-lte-b20-800,fe_conectivity-nfc,f_min_d+batteryMah.3000,f_doba+slug.android,f_min_dobr+value.15

ive put in some more filters for you and came up with 9 phones

min 32 GB memory, 4 GB ram
SD card expandable
min 3000 mah battery
fingerprint scanner
android 8 or above
Bands 3 and 20 for irish use

sub €300
NFC included

corwill · 30-08-2018 3:55pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones/f_max_d+eurPrice.290,f_min_dr+value.3072,f_min_ds+value.32768,fe_storage-external-storage,i_fp+slug.front:side,fe_bands-lte-b3-1800,fe_bands-lte-b20-800,fe_conectivity-nfc,f_min_d+batteryMah.3000,f_doba+slug.android,f_min_dobr+value.15

ive put in some more filters for you and came up with 9 phones

min 32 GB memory, 4 GB ram
SD card expandable
min 3000 mah battery
fingerprint scanner
android 8 or above
Bands 3 and 20 for irish use

sub €300
NFC included

If op adds 20 to his budget and foregoes the SD card slot, then the Mi8 looks like a serious option, from Hong Kong Goldway on AliExpress.

hooplah · 30-08-2018 4:44pm

That's great - thanks for all the help folks!

corkie · 31-08-2018 10:57pm

Bad News: - Xiaomi Bootloader unlock now 1440 Hours (/60 Days)

http://en.miui.com/thread-3696038-1-1.html

xiaomi in a nutshell

Tazz T · 01-09-2018 10:58am

Can anyone help? Looking to buy a Doogee S60 Lite from an EU warehouse, but seems to be a real lack of stock everywhere apart from China/HK. Tried the usual suspects. Anybody have any tips or know any EU stores I might be missing?

Suckit · 02-09-2018 12:37am

Tazz T wrote: »

Can anyone help? Looking to buy a Doogee S60 Lite from an EU warehouse, but seems to be a real lack of stock everywhere apart from China/HK. Tried the usual suspects. Anybody have any tips or know any EU stores I might be missing?

https://www.amazon.es/DOOGEE-S60-lite-impermeable-inal%C3%A1mbrica/dp/B07BFQ7XY4/
https://www.amazon.de/DOOGEE-S60-lite-Wasserdicht-Metallrahmen-Black/dp/B07BFPMDPZ/

Not EU but fast shipping + if it gets stopped for VAT, have €40 handy + €15 handling, bringing the total to a possible (with vat €205) €220.
https://www.lightinthebox.com/en/p/doogee-s60-lite-5-2-4g-smartphone-4gb-32gb-16mp-mediatek-mt6750t-5580mah_p6566979.html

Tazz T · 02-09-2018 12:13pm

Thanks, but already seen the Lightinthebox one. Was hoping to get it well under 200, as I can get the s60 pro model for 225 from an eu store.

Suckit · 02-09-2018 9:38pm

It's on sale on Banggood. If shipping to UK they often offer tariff insurance. Not sure if they still do to Ireland.
https://www.banggood.com/DOOGEE-S60-Lite-5_2-Inch-IP68-NFC-Wireless-Charging-5580mAh-4GB-RAM-32GB-ROM-MT6750T-4G-Smartphone-p-1273372.html

Thargor · 02-09-2018 9:47pm

I would seriously recommend people looking in the €300 range have a look at the Mi MaX 3, its an insanely good piece of kit.

corwill · 02-09-2018 9:58pm

Thargor wrote: »

I would seriously recommend people looking in the €300 range have a look at the Mi MaX 3, its an insanely good piece of kit.

Even by modern phablet standards, it's big. How do you find it, handling wise?

Thargor · 02-09-2018 11:49pm

corwill wrote: »

Even by modern phablet standards, it's big. How do you find it, handling wise?

Its slippy without a case like other metal phones but its a lot lighter than you expect and you get used to it after a day or two, I barely notice the size now, except when Im browsing/gaming/reading comics, the screen makes it a joy to use, its nearly distracting how good it makes media look, people at work keep taking it off me to look at. Calls/texts/messaging you dont even notice the size compared to a smaller device. Heres a camera test I did today from the Mi Max 3 thread:

dougm1970 · 03-09-2018 9:18am

great photos them. but how is she at night ?

corwill · 03-09-2018 10:23am

What I'd love it, or something close to that size, for is as a dedicated work phone, instead of the excremental iPhone 6S my current paymasters saddled me with a couple of years ago. Squinting at documents on the tiny screen while away from the desk is infuriating. Nevermind how much I dislike iOS, and the way our IT and security policies have ruined it even further...

Shamrock 64 · 03-09-2018 8:07pm

Interested in a Huawei Honor Note 10 from dhgate.com ,good price and great specs for the global version also great you tube reviews, anyone know them,also they say it ship's via DHL,I presume I'd have to pay customs duty on it.
Thanks.

massy086 · 03-09-2018 9:21pm

Hi has anyone any experience on sending a mi a1 back to honorbuy italy. As my loudspeaker is fecked up.do I have to pay postage.i remember reading something about if I paid through PayPal I don't

Thargor · 03-09-2018 10:06pm

dougm1970 wrote: »

great photos them. but how is she at night ?

Definitely in need of improvement in night shots according to various Youtube reviews, lots of that static/noise you get on some phones. Apparently installing the Google Camera apk completely cures that though so hopefully just a software issue...

corkie · 03-09-2018 10:41pm

massy086 wrote: »

Hi has anyone any experience on sending a mi a1 back to honorbuy italy. As my loudspeaker is fecked up.do I have to pay postage.i remember reading something about if I paid through PayPal I don't

Suckit wrote: »

Did you pay with Paypal?

https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/refunded-returns

I returned an Item last week, cost me €18.44 tracked.
Paypal refunded it in full.

Unlikely they will refund the whole lot whatever you get charged in the end, but it will soften the blow.

Why are you returning? If you don't mind me asking.
Is it under Warranty?
You could also remove the battery and ship without it.

You have to pay for postage but paypal will refund some of the costs.

Good luck getting somewhere to ship an item with battery etc.

massy086 · 03-09-2018 11:26pm

corkie wrote: »

You have to pay for postage but paypal will refund some of the costs.

Good luck getting somewhere to ship an item with battery etc.

Do I have to tell them it's a phone

dougm1970 · 04-09-2018 12:01am

Thargor wrote: »

Definitely in need of improvement in night shots according to various Youtube reviews, lots of that static/noise you get on some phones. Apparently installing the Google Camera apk completely cures that though so hopefully just a software issue...

yea. it transformed the camera on my wifes mi a1.
but on the mi max 3 you have to root. giving up OTA updates etc....and messing about getting apps like snapchat..banking apps etc to work.

Suckit · 04-09-2018 7:46pm

massy086 wrote: »

Hi has anyone any experience on sending a mi a1 back to honorbuy italy. As my loudspeaker is fecked up.do I have to pay postage.i remember reading something about if I paid through PayPal I don't

I think the other poster was returning to China.
The paypal returns are handy for returning items that aren't faulty or within the EU.
If the item is faulty and is still under warranty and was purchased within the EU, then they have to cover the shipping expenses etc. So you needn't have to use paypal.

It doesn't matter what they say. Honorbuy 'Warranty'

How do I make a return or exchange ?
Simply include in your package, along with the defective unit, our warranty card for items
one paper write detailed description of the problem your e-mail address.
Securely pack and seal the return merchandise in an appropriate box or envelope, and send it back to us using a safe shipping method.
PLEASE NOTE: honorbuy.com does not assume return shipping costs.

If they sold it within the EU and you purchased it within the EU then they must follow this:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm

Free of charge, 2-year guarantee (legal guarantee) for all goods

Under EU rules you always have the right to a minimum 2-year guarantee at no cost, regardless of whether you bought your goods online, in a shop or by mail order.
This 2-year guarantee is your minimum right. National rules in your country may give you extra protection: however, any deviation from EU rules must always be in the consumer's best interest.
If goods you bought anywhere in the EU turn out to be faulty or do not look or work as advertised, the seller must repair or replace them free of charge or give you a price reduction or a full refund.
As a general rule, you will only be able to ask for a partial or full refund when it is not possible to repair or replace the goods.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/faq/index_en.htm

The trader in Spain is ready to repair my faulty camera, but who has to pay for shipping back and forth?

Under EU law, within the legal guarantee period of two years, defective products must be repaired or replaced without any cost to the consumer. This includes shipping costs. So, in principle, the seller should cover all shipping costs (your sending the faulty camera to the seller; the trader's returning the repaired camera to you).
However, the trader may wish to examine the camera to check whether it was defective when you bought it. In this case, you may have to pay to return the camera and ask to be refunded the shipping costs if the trader agrees that it was defective.

massy086 · 04-09-2018 7:56pm

Suckit wrote: »

I think the other poster was returning to China.
The paypal returns are handy for returning items that aren't faulty or within the EU.
If the item is faulty and is still under warranty and was purchased within the EU, then they have to cover the shipping expenses etc. So you needn't have to use paypal.

It doesn't matter what they say. Honorbuy 'Warranty'

If they sold it with EU and you purchased it with EU then they must follow this:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/faq/index_en.htm

That's brilliant thanks a million will start the RMA .thanks 4 all the info

stockshares · 05-09-2018 7:37pm

The following phones are available on Honorbuy EU direct:
Redmi S2 for 140usd
Redmi 5 for 144usd
Redmi Note 4x for 160usd
Redmi 6 for 170usd
Redmi 5+ for 180usd
Redmi Note 5 170-240usd depending on Ram
Redmi 6 Pro for 210usd
Mi A2 Lite for 230usd

Their is no filter on their mobile site and the filter on Kilmovil doesn't display on my phone.

Which of the phones above would be best for the following:
Strong Battery
3-4gb ram
Sd card
Fast Charging(preferably)
Good Screen
Dual Sim
Decent Camera
Android One(preferably)
USB 3(preferably)

Nice extras would be FM radio, Good speakers

I have read some reviews on Gsmarena but it's bewildering keeping up with new releases and the similar model names.

I'm aware there are other good phones from other retailers and brands but xiaomi and Honorbuy seem to be reliable going by people here. If anyone can recommend other retailers I'll check those out also.

Thanks for any help

Edit: I've gone through the specs on Honorbuy and have ruled out Redmi S2, Redmi 5 and Redmi 6 due to poor screen specs. However there is little between the remaining phones in the list below:

Redmi Note 4x for 160usd
Redmi 5+ for 180usd
Redmi Note 5 170-240usd depending on Ram
Redmi 6 Pro for 210usd
Mi A2 Lite for 230usd

The only obvious difference is the Mi A Lite is the only Android One option, however having read up on MIUI versus Android One there's pros and cons for both.

stockshares · 05-09-2018 10:24pm

Choice is now between these. The 5+ and Note 5 are almost identical.

Redmi Note 4x for 160usd

Redmi 5+ for 180usd
Redmi Note 5 170-240usd depending on 3-6gb Ram

Mi A2 Lite for 230usd

Is the Mi A2 lite worth the extra 50-70usd

MikeHammer70 · 06-09-2018 1:57pm

Have a look at the top 10 bestsellers on kimovil

That will point you in the right direction

You'll find a few of the Xiaomis on the list

stockshares · 06-09-2018 2:14pm

MikeHammer70 wrote: »

Have a look at the top 10 bestsellers on kimovil

That will point you in the right direction

You'll find a few of the Xiaomis on the list

Just did, thanks for tip. Seen they have the Note 5 Global 3gb ram for 132euro. I think I'll go with that

GBX · 06-09-2018 2:27pm

Bear in mind Kimovil are a comparison site that link to vendors. Whichever site is selling it for 132 may charge delivery to Ireland but you may still get hit with customs. So factor that into your costs.

MikeHammer70 · 06-09-2018 2:36pm

stockshares wrote: »

Just did, thanks for tip. Seen they have the Note 5 Global 3gb ram for 132euro. I think I'll go with that

I've bought a couple from Hong Kong Goldway if they're still doing customs free delivery

You can also get it delivered from the likes of honorbuy in the EU

abarkie · 12-09-2018 7:59pm

Hi,

Wondering if anyone else has a similar issue to me

Have a Xiaomi Note 4

When doing a back up, I lose icons (Boards.ie) in paticular and / or items from folders from my home screen

Wondered if anyone else has come across this issue

I am using Nova launcher, but it defaults back to system launcher after back up

Thanks for looking

corkie · 13-09-2018 1:42pm

[Xiaomi][Others] Important Announcement About Flashing Mi Phones Manufactured by China!

Here's something VERY important before you flash or update the ROM.

1. Xiaomi Phones manufactured for Chinese market are not able to run MIUI Global ROM.
2. Xiaomi Phones manufactured for Global markets are not able to run MIUI China ROM.

We highly recommend you to buy Xiaomi Phones via official or authorized sales channels and double check the system infomation before flashing or updating.

Applies to new purchases and phones purchased from now on. Older devices probably still can be flashed. It is unclear.

It maybe that you just can't lock the bootloader again if you change version.

Thargor · 15-09-2018 8:34pm

7.12 inch screen on the Honor 8X Max!

And they still had to put a notch on it :mad:

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