Entry Gaming Laptop HP £649; 6 core Ryzen + GTX 1650

cherryghost · 14-07-2020 1:45pm #1

In stock after months of pre-orders. Probably the best value laptop around at the moment, even for content creators thanks to its amazingly fast processor. Weighs under 2kg too so very easy to move around, and smaller than other 15 inch laptops thanks to its very thin bezels.

It will play all modern games around medium-high settings at 1080p. For VR, the graphics card will chug a bit but fine for many games (Half-Life Alyx is the only exception I have encountered). The storage slot is easily accessbile for upgrading (it is only 256gb). The processor is the standout and thanks to great power savings, the battery can go on for much longer than its rivals in the price range. Doesnt scream gamery chassis, and backlit keyboard is always a plus.

39.6 cm (15.6") diagonal FHD, IPS, anti-glare, micro-edge, WLED-backlit, 250 nits, 45% NTSC (1920 x 1080)
AMD Ryzen 5 4600H (3.0 GHz base clock, up to 4.0 GHz max boost clock, 3 MB L2 cache, 6 cores)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (4 GB GDDR6 dedicated)
8 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2 x 4 GB) 2 user-accessible memory slots; Transfer rates up to 2400 MT/s. 8 GB DDR4-3200 SDRAM (2 x 4 GB)
256 GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
B&O; Dual speakers; HP Audio Boost 1.0 Audio by B&O; Dual speakers; HP Audio Boost
HP TrueVision HD Camera with integrated dual array digital microphone HP TrueVision HD Camera with integrated dual array digital microphone
3-cell, 52.5 Wh Li-ion 3-cell, 52.5 Wh Li-ion
Up to 13 hours and 15 minutes

TonyB466 · 14-07-2020 3:39pm

Would it be sufficient for the Microsoft flight simulator 2020?

14-07-2020 3:42pm

TonyB466 wrote: »

Would it be sufficient for the Microsoft flight simulator 2020?

Yes.

FutureGuy · 14-07-2020 5:50pm

How would this compare to a PS4 Pro nfor example?

cherryghost · 14-07-2020 5:59pm

On GPU power its roughly the same. On CPU the laptop knocks it out of the park. So at 1080p it probably beats games in identical settings. But its sort of an apples vs oranges comparison, PS4 Pro would handle higher resolutions better as games tend to take advantage of dynamic resolution settings etc.

Homelander · 14-07-2020 9:43pm

Yes the big advantage is the CPU power difference. A lot of games that run at 30fps on PS4 or PS4 Pro would run at 60fps on the laptop at more or less identical visual settings.

soap1978 · 14-07-2020 11:25pm

Is 8 GB ram enough

15-07-2020 11:06am

soap1978 wrote: »

Is 8 GB ram enough

if you decided that it wasn't it's only a simple €40 upgrade that takes 10 minutes to bring it up to 16gb

8gb is fine for the cpu side for most games but the cpu would benefit from running in what is called dual-channel mode which requires 2 separate ram sticks so if there is only one inside an upgrade is beneficial

soap1978 · 15-07-2020 11:17am

Can u definitely upgrade the ram easy,is there any links to iy

Dogre · 15-07-2020 11:18am

glasso wrote: »

if you decided that it wasn't it's only a simple €40 upgrade that takes 10 minutes to bring it up to 16gb

8gb is fine for the cpu side for most games but the cpu would benefit from running in what is called dual-channel mode which requires 2 separate ram sticks so if there is only one inside an upgrade is beneficial

from lower down the page, comparison between 15-ec0000na and 15-ec1001na

8 GB DDR4-3200 SDRAM (2 x 4 GB)

It looks like dual-channel should be already implemented, and 2 x 8GB sticks will be required for upgrade

Thanks, OP, just ordered one.

15-07-2020 11:37am

soap1978 wrote: »

Can u definitely upgrade the ram easy,is there any links to iy

you just need a philips screwdriver and 10 minutes

ram will just click in and out of a place-holder clip

if this was not possible with a gaming laptop nobody would buy it - it's expected to be a given to be able to upgrade the ram.

it's only ultrabook-style laptops where ram is soldered in for space-saving reasons.

kaerobe · 15-07-2020 12:31pm

Hmmm

Currently WFH and had started lock down playing some games but found them too slow. In anticipation of further possible restrictions, this may be a good bit of kit.

Would this be good for a game that recommends the following (I assume it would):

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470, 3.20GHz or AMD FX-6300, 3.5Ghz
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 6 GB
OS: Microsoft Windows 7/8 (64-bit)
VIDEO CARD: nVIDIA GeForce GTX 660, 2 GB or AMD Radeon HD 7870, 2 GB (Does not support Intel Integrated Graphics Cards)
PIXEL SHADER: 5.0
VERTEX SHADER: 5.0
FREE DISK SPACE: 4 GB
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 2048 MB

Any TopCashBack deals etc to save a few more euros?

15-07-2020 12:41pm

Yes it will play Cities Skylines without issue.

kaerobe · 15-07-2020 12:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes it will play Cities Skylines without issue.

I have no idea what you are talking about :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::P

Kolido · 15-07-2020 1:11pm

glasso wrote: »

if you decided that it wasn't it's only a simple €40 upgrade that takes 10 minutes to bring it up to 16gb

8gb is fine for the cpu side for most games but the cpu would benefit from running in what is called dual-channel mode which requires 2 separate ram sticks so if there is only one inside an upgrade is beneficial

Where is the best place to buy RAM, 16gb for 40eur sounds rather cheap.

15-07-2020 1:34pm

Kolido wrote: »

Where is the best place to buy RAM, 16gb for 40eur sounds rather cheap.

I meant 8gb for €40 (assuming it was 1 x 8gb in it so another 1 x 8gb needed to bring it to 16gb but someone else pointed out that it's 2 x 4gb in the machine as sold)

amazon's prices usually the best considering free postage

ram is historically very cheap at the moment

£29 for 8gb

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT8G4SFS8266-PC4-21300-Single-260-Pin/dp/B07Q3HNC79/ref=sr_1_3?crid=17T346DQA021R&dchild=1&keywords=8gb%2Bddr4%2Bram%2Bsodimm&qid=1594816493&sprefix=8gb%2Bddr4%2Bram%2Bsodi%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-3&th=1

Kolido · 15-07-2020 1:52pm

glasso wrote: »

I meant 8gb for €40 (assuming it was 1 x 8gb in it so another 1 x 8gb needed to bring it to 16gb but someone else pointed out that it's 2 x 4gb in the machine as sold)

amazon's prices usually the best considering free postage

ram is historically very cheap at the moment

£29 for 8gb

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT8G4SFS8266-PC4-21300-Single-260-Pin/dp/B07Q3HNC79/ref=sr_1_3?crid=17T346DQA021R&dchild=1&keywords=8gb%2Bddr4%2Bram%2Bsodimm&qid=1594816493&sprefix=8gb%2Bddr4%2Bram%2Bsodi%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-3&th=1

Yeah thats what I wondered, would need 2 sticks of 8gb for this one. Looking to upgrade a desktop myself, will keep an eye on Amazon prices, cheers.

kaerobe · 15-07-2020 3:37pm

Whats the best financial/environmental means of getting rid of your older laptop?

:rolleyes:

FutureGuy · 15-07-2020 7:16pm

So buy this and the 2 x 8GB sticks of ram? Anything else?

15-07-2020 9:51pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

So buy this and the 2 x 8GB sticks of ram? Anything else?

no need to really.

the 2 x 4gb in there and the graphics card is fine really as it's a dual-channel channel configuration unless you find the ram usage hitting max a lot in task manager

there is no rush unless that is the case frequently

FutureGuy · 16-07-2020 10:24pm

Ordered. Pretty much perfect for what I want.

Thanks cherryghost!

kaerobe · 17-07-2020 9:02am

If anyone gets theirs today do let us know.

Of interest, did anyone send it to parcel motel to pay less vat?

FutureGuy · 17-07-2020 1:30pm

kaerobe wrote: »

If anyone gets theirs today do let us know.

Of interest, did anyone send it to parcel motel to pay less vat?

Yeah I did. A day extra shipping but 17 saved.

Etnies · 17-07-2020 3:16pm

Be careful picking up memory, Ryzen CPUs are picky about which memory they like

FutureGuy · 17-07-2020 3:59pm

Etnies wrote: »

Be careful picking up memory, Ryzen CPUs are picky about which memory they like

I think I’ll stick with the 8gb unless I start doing video editing etc.

soap1978 · 18-07-2020 3:38am

Sorry can anyone tell how this laptop compares
ASUS TUF FX505 - 15.6 Inch IPS Full HD Gaming Laptop - Intel i5-9300H, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB, 8 GB RAM, 512 GB NMVe PCI-e SSD, Windows 10)

Homelander · 18-07-2020 8:29am

Much slower processor.

machalla · 18-07-2020 2:22pm

Just got one this morning arrived via an post. Very similar in looks to HP Omen series. Not much time to look at it (setting up for family) but it's very responsive so far and the toddler is putting it through its paces. Keyboard, touchpad all feel good. Sound seems fine but I'm not a great judge of that.

Just have to clone the drive to a larger 1tb and maybe some extra ram to give it a boost. Any recommendations for a cable or cradle to clone the drive?

FutureGuy · 18-07-2020 4:06pm

Already at Parcel Motel Dublin Depot. Should have it Monday.

soap1978 · 18-07-2020 6:28pm

Is there any gaming laptop better at 800 euro

TrivialArguer · 18-07-2020 7:41pm

Fooooooooook. Id buy this in a heartbeat if I didnt just get a laptop last year! Great deal. FML

18-07-2020 11:08pm

definitely confirmed upgradeable up to 16gb?

or even 32gb?

machalla · 18-07-2020 11:11pm

Just to note for anyone doing an upgrade. I had some fun getting the back off over all address were out. Best to look to pop the lid up near the connection to the display. Also your hard disk and ram are under a firmly stuck sticker. It comes up but it's irritating.

Just cloning the hard disk onto a 1tb nvme drive I had spare using macrium reflect.

soap1978 · 19-07-2020 9:56am

is the one verison for 799 pound and 512 gb ram the same laptop

Standman · 19-07-2020 3:35pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Already at Parcel Motel Dublin Depot. Should have it Monday.

Did it fit in the locker alright? I know the dimensions of the laptop itself would fit in easily but never sure how bulky the packaging is.

FutureGuy · 19-07-2020 6:41pm

Standman wrote: »

Did it fit in the locker alright? I know the dimensions of the laptop itself would fit in easily but never sure how bulky the packaging is.

Haven’t received it just yet. Will let you know.

steven087 · 20-07-2020 9:46am

Anyone recommend a computer for gaming the likes of fifa cod. Far cry stuff like that that would be better graphics than a ps4 pro.
Cheers
Looking under 1k

Dogre · 20-07-2020 11:24am

Standman wrote: »

Did it fit in the locker alright? I know the dimensions of the laptop itself would fit in easily but never sure how bulky the packaging is.

Yes, it fits in quite easily. The package is only a few inches high, so it fits in a minimum height locker. Mine was in a G10 amazon box, 550 x 350 x 50/100 mm.

sweetie · 20-07-2020 11:49am

steven087 wrote: »

Anyone recommend a computer for gaming the likes of fifa cod. Far cry stuff like that that would be better graphics than a ps4 pro.
Cheers
Looking under 1k

eh, this one?

FutureGuy · 20-07-2020 1:27pm

Using it right now. It arrived really fast through Parcel Motel too (hit NI on Saturday evening).

Very nice piece of kit. May buy Death Stranding to put it through the paces.

mad m · 20-07-2020 2:30pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Using it right now. It arrived really fast through Parcel Motel too (hit NI on Saturday evening).

Very nice piece of kit. May buy Death Stranding to put it through the paces.

Throw up a few pictures

machalla · 20-07-2020 2:51pm

Packaging on the one I recieved was not bulky as the laptop box itself is relatively slim. Amazon box was tight on it.

Wouldn't think you'd have any issue.

FutureGuy · 20-07-2020 3:55pm

mad m wrote: »

Throw up a few pictures

No issue with PM locker. Pics included (apologies for mess, reconfigurations if workspace ongoing?)

Standman · 20-07-2020 5:29pm

Gonna get this as well. Would like to upgrade the SSD as the 256gb one it has will be full in no time. Any recommendations for a good 1tb m.2 SSD for €100 or less?

20-07-2020 5:32pm

Standman wrote: »

Gonna get this as well. Would like to upgrade the SSD as the 256gb one it has will be full in no time. Any recommendations for a good 1tb m.2 SSD for €100 or less?

The only place you'll find ANY 1tb m.2 SSD for that price (let alone a good one) is the likes of AliExpress. Your best bet is to get something like this one.

Standman · 20-07-2020 5:35pm

Thanks, I was literally just looking at the very same one :pac:. Looks good, not too far over budget.
Edit: Oooff just noticed "Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months.", guess I'll be waiting a while.

20-07-2020 5:39pm

Standman wrote: »

Thanks, I was literally just looking at the very same one :pac:. Looks good, not too far over budget.
Edit: Oooff just noticed "Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months.", guess I'll be waiting a while.

This is also an option, or you can just buy the one above direct from Crucial.

mad m · 20-07-2020 6:17pm

What's the weight of it feel like?

Btw, thanks for pics.

soap1978 · 20-07-2020 10:19pm

Would cyber punk work on it?

FutureGuy · 21-07-2020 9:04am

what would be the usual battery life if playing games on this?

cherryghost · 21-07-2020 2:30pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

what would be the usual battery life if playing games on this?

Most laptops are rubbish for gaming on battery. On full whack, about an hour I would imagine. You could run older games for longer. But longer batterylife always a weakness in gaming laptops, only the higher tier laptops would be better and even at that, are not ideal.

Entry Gaming Laptop HP £649; 6 core Ryzen + GTX 1650

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