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Atlantic 252 - A good example of a Red Pill

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  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Does anyone know if Steve Haze, aka Hollywood Haze was Steve Kelly of Sunshine 101? Steve Kelly had a weekday slot circa '86,'87 from 7-10pm later on he went from 10 - 1am.
    Just curious as Hollywood Haze sounded very much like him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    So where did you first hear presenters of Atlantic 252 previously - Irish or otherwise?
    Here's mine.

    Nails Mahoney and Mark Byrne - Sunshine 101

    Enda Caldwell - Sunset FM (as Enda Storey)

    Liam Coburn - Capital Radio (now FM104)

    Andrew Turner - BBC Radio One (news)

    Simon Bates (think that was a syndicated program) - Top of The Pops!


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    So where did you first hear presenters of Atlantic 252 previously - Irish or otherwise?
    Here's mine.

    Nails Mahoney and Mark Byrne - Sunshine 101

    Enda Caldwell - Sunset FM (as Enda Storey)

    Liam Coburn - Capital Radio (now FM104)

    Andrew Turner - BBC Radio One (news)

    Simon Bates (think that was a syndicated program) - Top of The Pops!

    I first heard Liam Coburn on Q102 (Super-Q) in 1988.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    So which of the Irish presenters had you not heard of before Atlantic 252.

    Here's my list of the ones I can think of. And, yes, I did find out some more about what some of them were doing before Atlantic 252 since then!

    Paul Kavanagh
    Dusty Rhodes
    Rick O'Shea
    Stephen Cooper (I think that's where I heard him first, although it could have been the '90s pirates before his stint)
    Henry Owens
    Jo King
    Al Dunne
    Robin Banks
    Hollywood Haze (assuming he's Irish)

    I would have said Greg Parke, but I don't think I heard of him until after Atlantic 252.

    Is Limerick's Live 95FM's Mark Whelan, aka Dickie Bow on Atlantic 252, Irish? I had not heard of him before Atlantic 252.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    James Whale was also on 252 on Friday afternoons in around 1991 and flew weekly from London to Trim to do the show if I remember.

    Simon Bates (Ex BBC R1) "Our Tune" was a pre-recorded segment

    The late Dave Lee Stone was another U.S. presenter on the station in the early days:
    https://www.mixcloud.com/gcamblin/atlantic-252-david-lee-stone-1st-day-friday-16th-feb-1990/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Liam Coburn - Boyneside Drogheda to Energy 103 to Q102.

    Many of the Irish DJS on Atlantic where ex Sunshine / Q102 /:Energy / Nova


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    alzer100 wrote: »
    As much as I liked Atlantic 252 especially in its early years, it wasn't really an original idea or thinking outside the box with respect to its format, sound and target audience as far as RTE was concerned. Its concept was born from Dublin's super pirates of the late 1980's, namely Sunshine 101 and Super-Q102. RTE were just able to bring that particular "sound" to a wider audience in the UK and it worked (for a couple of years anyway).

    Nostalgia anyone?
    http://radiowaves.fm/ire/database/atlantic-252/


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Apparently Rick O'Shea entered and came in second place on Sunshine 101's The Big Kahuna DJ/prizes competition in 1988.


  • Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭thejuggler


    Henry Owens (Condon) was fairly prominent in the Cork pirate scene in the 80s. Later went on to set up RedFM in Cork in 2001/2002. Sadly passed away a few years back after battling cancer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    thejuggler wrote: »
    Henry Owens (Condon) was fairly prominent in the Cork pirate scene in the 80s. Later went on to set up RedFM in Cork in 2001/2002. Sadly passed away a few years back after battling cancer.

    A true gentleman of Irish radio. In Dublin he also worked at Nova and Q102. RIP


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    The music was great and the jocks rocked, but have we mentioned the fact that the LW signal was absolute crap and the Pirates had been banging away for years on FM before it. The whole 252 thing was a good idea, but got knocked to fook by its own premise. LW across Ireland and the UK. Video killied the radio star but the internet killed 252. Bless her and once again thanks for the thread.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    The music was great and the jocks rocked, but have we mentioned the fact that the LW signal was absolute crap /QUOTE]

    The signal, despite claims by Mike Hogan( Capital 104) was crystal clear across Ireland - 500 kw - the audio quality was of course the problem - am optimod tweaked to loud !


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Infoanon wrote: »
    Grandeeod wrote: »
    The music was great and the jocks rocked, but have we mentioned the fact that the LW signal was absolute crap /QUOTE]

    The signal, despite claims by Mike Hogan( Capital 104) was crystal clear across Ireland - 500 kw - the audio quality was of course the problem - am optimod tweaked to loud !

    My apologies. I was of course talking about the LW audio quality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Not forgetting that Nails Mahoney, Al Dunne and Mark Byrne all did stints on Millennium 88FM post the December 1988 closedown, whilst transitioning to their respective radio stations.

    Was Al Dunne the only one mentioned that went from Millennium to Atlantic???
    I think Nails Mahoney went from Millennium to 2FM and Mark Byrne went from Millennium to Century???


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Infoanon wrote: »
    Liam Coburn - Boyneside Drogheda to Energy 103 to Q102.

    Many of the Irish DJS on Atlantic where ex Sunshine / Q102 /:Energy / Nova

    From what I can make out, most of the Irish deejays on the station up until the mid 90s had previously been with Sunshine and a small number had previously been with Q102 and/or Energy 103 and/or Radio Nova. There were of course a couple of exceptions during that period: Rick O'Shea and (if he is Irish) Mark Whelan. From the late '90s on, they were likely to have come from 90s pirates, e.g. Enda Caldwell, Greg Parke and Stephen Cooper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    alzer100 wrote: »
    Not forgetting that Nails Mahoney, Al Dunne and Mark Byrne all did stints on Millennium 88FM post the December 1988 closedown, whilst transitioning to their respective radio stations.

    Was Al Dunne the only one mentioned that went from Millennium to Atlantic???
    I think Nails Mahoney went from Millennium to 2FM and Mark Byrne went from Millennium to Century???

    You're right about Nails Mahoney and Mark Byrne. Mark only got the last month of Millennium, having been involved with Riviera Radio just before that. Paul Kavanagh was to eventually became the boss of Riviera Radio, by a strange coincidence.

    I never knew Al Dunne was involved with Millennium. When was he there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    You're right about Nails Mahoney and Mark Byrne. Mark only got the last month of Millennium, having been involved with Riviera Radio just before that. Paul Kavanagh was to eventually became the boss of Riviera Radio, by a strange coincidence.

    I never knew Al Dunne was involved with Millennium. When was he there?

    Not too sure tbh, think it was early 1989 as I think the station had gotten a small extension to its licence. It was supposed to close at the end of 1988. I think it ended up going to April.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    alzer100 wrote: »
    Not too sure tbh, think it was early 1989 as I think the station had gotten a small extension to its licence. It was supposed to close at the end of 1988. I think it ended up going to April.

    Millennium Radio closed at the end of May 1989.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Millennium Radio closed at the end of May 1989.

    I can recall hearing Al Dunne on it but when exactly - not too sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    During it's first year, as well as the influence of the Irish superpirates, there was a strong offshore pirate influence, particularly Laser 558, which is where the American connections came in. English newsreader Andrew Turner was also involved with that station. Robin Banks, as well as doing a stint with Radio Nova, had also been on Israeli offshore pirate The Voice of Peace. I think Charlie Wolf was the last of the Laser 558 presenters to leave Atlantic 252.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Just a question on Century Radio. That tiny antenna attached to the side of the building at Christchurch. Was that some sort of microwave link to RTE?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh



    Just looking at the link now.

    Love the Anorak Facts, especially the one marked in Bold!

    Anorak Facts
    Atlantic 252 launched at 8am on September 1st 1989
    The original frequency was actually 254kHz
    Gary King was the first voice heard
    First track played was “Sowing the Seeds of Love” by Tears for Fears
    “Where music comes first. And talk comes joint 15th” – early billboard campaigns
    Overnight automated programming was called ‘The Big Mattress’
    Who else but Chris Cary beat RTÉ to Irish Long Wave broadcasting
    Last live programme was December 20th 2001 but the station didn’t shut until January 2002
    TeamTalk took over the transmitter and frequency


    Like this bit of information as well:
    In the early days it used to close at 7pm – with listeners advised to retune to sister station Radio Luxembourg (Atlantic was owned by Radio Tara – a joint effort between RTÉ and Luxy). The hours were extended to 2am in August 1990 with 24 hour a day broadcasts starting in September 1991.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    alzer100 wrote: »
    Just a question on Century Radio. That tiny antenna attached to the side of the building at Christchurch. Was that some sort of microwave link to RTE?

    Sounds like it - Heartbeats microwave link antenna is still in place last time I looked - arrow shaped antenna / short ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Infoanon wrote: »
    Sounds like it - Heartbeats microwave link antenna is still in place last time I looked - arrow shaped antenna / short ?

    No, the one at Century Radio wasn't arrow shaped. It was extremely small and thin. Maybe that wasn't the link, I don't know. I would have thought that they had to get their signal over to the transmission providers somehow. Physically, it was the ONLY antenna mounted on that building as far as I could see at the time. It looked extremely vunerable as it looked like it could be taken out quite easily if someone had a devilish streak. The cable feeding it was also quite accessible for someone with a ladder. The cable actually exited exactly where the studio was located.
    It was before the internet and broadband so I don't know if they were maybe using ISDN to link to RTE. Anyway this thing looked extremely delicate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    I would hazard a guess that the studio signal was sent to 3 Rock directly for distribution.

    Which brings us back nicely to Atlantic - they had an unannounced band II (FM) transmitter at the studio site...


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Recording Atlantic 252 mix tapes to cassette on a knackered one of these in my parents bedroom did not exactly result in FLAC quality but I loved it all the same:

    py3HpLK.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭TheBMG


    Infoanon wrote: »
    Sounds like it - Heartbeats microwave link antenna is still in place last time I looked - arrow shaped antenna / short ?

    I’m open to correction but the Heartbeat link antenna (still visible in Dolphins Barn) is from their brief mid 1990s revival.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Thargor wrote: »
    Recording Atlantic 252 mix tapes to cassette on a knackered one of these in my parents bedroom did not exactly result in FLAC quality but I loved it all the same:

    All of my early radio recordings were saved on the cheapest cassettes I could buy in Apollo 1 Discount Store and made on the family GEC 3 in 1 (radio, cassette, record player) Music Center.

    A humble process, but those tapes were the basic foundation of The Anorak Hour programmes, so I, and other listeners through the years, owe a debt of gratitude to that music center unit. :)

    My son recently found it buried at the back of my dad's shed and managed to take it apart and revive most of it's functions - it brought me right back to scanning the AM band in 1977 for early signs of humm and buzz pirate activity (with finger primed and ready for release, on the 'pause' button).


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭TheBMG


    Thargor wrote: »
    Recording Atlantic 252 mix tapes to cassette on a knackered one of these in my parents bedroom did not exactly result in FLAC quality but I loved it all the same:

    py3HpLK.jpg

    If you look online at the likes of Mixcloud you can find high quality recordings of Atlantic 252. The studio audio was processed with an Orban Optimod 8100 and it’s a weird moment listening to A252 programming in glorious stereo rather than in scratchy AM


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    alzer100 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Steve Haze, aka Hollywood Haze was Steve Kelly of Sunshine 101? Steve Kelly had a weekday slot circa '86,'87 from 7-10pm later on he went from 10 - 1am.
    Just curious as Hollywood Haze sounded very much like him.

    One and the same!


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