DNA test on child that could be Madeleine McCann...

K-9 · 28-07-2011 2:31pm

elviscostello wrote: »

I think the poster was referring to how it will make some people look like big eejits, for suggesting that she was not abducted and most likely not alive.

Ya know the eejits, like the two investigating police forces.

The chances of her being alive are minuscule, that doesn't make anybody an eejit for believing it. Chances are these people who think it's her are going to look like idiots out of it.

inforfun · 28-07-2011 2:32pm

stovelid wrote: »

Bad enough being kidnapped but being brought up by French and Belgians?

At least this Belgian/French combo of parents didnt leave their kids alone in a holiday apartment like this fabulous pair of British parents did.

Da Shins Kelly · 28-07-2011 2:33pm

Why did they try to take her from her parents without any evidence whatsoever that it was her? What plebs.

28-07-2011 2:35pm

Voodu Child wrote: »

They're doing it live on Jeremy Kyle in a few weeks.

Will the McCanns hire a babysiter for their appearence on the show?

Hannibal Smith · 28-07-2011 2:36pm

Sky are saying it's all false, they contacted the Chief of Police in Leh and he's no idea what they're on about

_feedback_ · 28-07-2011 2:37pm

K-9 wrote: »

The chances of her being alive are minuscule, that doesn't make anybody an eejit for believing it. Chances are these people who think it's her are going to look like idiots out of it.

I didn't say that.

The tourists that believe it is her will look silly, but they're not being put through crap out there. Feel very sorry for that young girl and her parents.

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 2:40pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Will the McCanns hire a babysiter for their appearence on the show?

Nah, they don't believe in them. You can't trust anyone so best leave the kids to fend for themselves. Safer that way :rolleyes:

vicwatson · 28-07-2011 2:42pm

Daily Mail - It has to be true.......:rolleyes:

CrazyRabbit · 28-07-2011 2:48pm

If I seen a child of the right age, with the same unusual iris as Madaline McCann, I too would stop the child/parents from leaving and call the police.

So if this child is very similar in appearance to Madaline and with this same perculiar iris, then I don't blame the tourists for trying to stop the child. But 'taking' the child is another thing...that's going too far.

Personally, I think she's someone in Turkey/North Africa (they have this crazy obsession with blonde haired/blue eyed kids).

Chuck Stone · 28-07-2011 2:48pm

It's a bit like where's Wally for bored adults.

_feedback_ · 28-07-2011 2:53pm

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

If I seen a child of the right age, with the same unusual iris as Madaline McCann, I too would stop the child/parents from leaving and call the police.

So if this child is very similar in appearance to Madaline and with this same perculiar iris, then I don't blame the tourists for trying to stop the child. But 'taking' the child is another thing...that's going too far.

Personally, I think she's someone in Turkey/North Africa (they have this crazy obsession with blonde haired/blue eyed kids).

There's no real way of keeping someone with you really. An innocent pair will tell you to fúck off and leave them alone. A not innocent pair will just clear off. Reporting is the only option you have really.

Saw a tweet which said: "I pray to god that it is Madeleine, she needs to be back in the arms of her loving parents"

How is leaving young kids alone night after night the act of loving parents?

leonidas83 · 28-07-2011 3:02pm

As far as I am aware, Madeline's eye is not as rare an occurence as some of the media would have people believe, there is every chance that she could have an eye very similar to Madelines but not be her. I have followed this case like alot of others over the years and have to say that if it was her, I would be amazed. In Spain and Portugal the general consensus is that the parents were definitely involved in some way, unlike the British media, where even mentioning they were involved is met with anger and accusations

lukesmom · 28-07-2011 3:43pm

The blemish is called a Coloboma of the iris and there are about three to seven babies every 100,000 live births in the UK born with this condition.

stovelid · 28-07-2011 3:57pm

inforfun wrote: »

At least this Belgian/French combo of parents didnt leave their kids alone in a holiday apartment like this fabulous pair of British parents did.

Well that's Brits for you. Possibly they were off applying the colonial jackboot to a sovereign nation somewhere.

ShooterSF · 28-07-2011 4:05pm

lukesmom wrote: »

As unlikely as it is, the fact that 3 people were convinced it was Madeleine was enough for the police to take the child to be tested.

Mob hysteria. One person sees something and shouts it out and others try to see it and do. A certain tree stump comes to mind. If it was 3 reports on different days in the area by different people as the couple did some touring I'd be inclined to say she'd have to be at least a good look a like but 3 people in the same area, nah.

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 4:11pm

From the Liverpool Echo. As the 'private investigators the McCann's have apparently hired have known about this for several days and are not planning on going to India, I think we can assume it is not much of a lead. No, really :eek::eek:

Madeleine McCann’s family has played down a possible sighting of the missing child in India.
Local police are said to be investigating after a British woman spotted a six-year-old girl who appeared to resemble Madeleine in a market in the city of Leh in northern India on Friday night.
A French woman and a Belgian man who were with the girl insisted they were her biological parents but police took their passports to check, the Chandigarh Tribune newspaper reported.
It is understood that the private detectives hired by Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, to continue looking for their daughter are not currently planning to travel to India but will liaise with local police.

McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “The private investigators currently searching for Madeleine have been aware of this report from India for several days, and have been working to establish its veracity.
“So far unfortunately there is nothing to suggest that this sighting is any more credible than any of the many others we have had over the last four-plus years.”
Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing from her family’s holiday flat in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3 2007 as her parents dined with friends nearby.

Read More http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/07/28/madeleine-mccann-sighting-in-india-played-down-by-missing-girl-s-family-100252-29136344/#ixzz1TPf5wXsW

K-9 · 28-07-2011 4:26pm

Kind of makes you wonder what the high fees for the private investigators are for if they aren't going to bother going out.

mawk · 28-07-2011 4:29pm

patmac wrote: »

There is hope as Belgians have as a good record as our priests when it comes to children.

They balanced it a least a bit by creating tintin

UnknownSpecies · 28-07-2011 4:36pm

mawk wrote: »

They balanced it a least a bit by creating belgian chocolate

fyp

mikemac · 28-07-2011 4:38pm

The headline of this thread could easily be "American man tries to snatch child from parents"

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 4:39pm

K-9 wrote: »

Kind of makes you wonder what the high fees for the private investigators are for if they aren't going to bother going out.

It's the cushiest job going.

curlywurly26 · 28-07-2011 4:41pm

I think it's awful how people make jokes about the McCanns killing their child when there is no evidence to suggest this.

As for saying they're unfit because they left them in a hotel room, I'd say many a parent has put their child to bed then headed down to a hotel bar without any incidents happening at all. You just wouldn't think being so close that anything could go wrong.

Do you not think that it is something they will regret for the rest of their lives?

As for this story, I agree it's a pile of tosh but I can't believe people would try and snatch a child from it's parents - that's just atrocious if you have no evidence to back it up. If I had children and someone tried to snatch them, I'd flip! I don't care who they thought it was - that's just so scary for the poor child and her parents.

im invisible · 28-07-2011 4:45pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

So where the **** is the kid if she is still alive then?

Probably adopted by a white couple living in a small town in a huge country like India...

KeithAFC · 28-07-2011 4:47pm

She isn't going to be found. She is dead.

syklops · 28-07-2011 4:49pm

curlywurly26 wrote: »

I think it's awful how people make jokes about the McCanns killing their child when there is no evidence to suggest this.

A lot of people don't joke, they actually believe that there is something to the story. As for there being no evidence of this being the case, the problem is there is very little evidence on either side, which makes people go, "Hmm, I wonder..."

_feedback_ · 28-07-2011 4:50pm

curlywurly26 wrote: »

I think it's awful how people make jokes about the McCanns killing their child when there is no evidence to suggest this.

As for saying they're unfit because they left them in a hotel room, I'd say many a parent has put their child to bed then headed down to a hotel bar without any incidents happening at all. You just wouldn't think being so close that anything could go wrong.

Do you not think that it is something they will regret for the rest of their lives?

As for this story, I agree it's a pile of tosh but I can't believe people would try and snatch a child from it's parents - that's just atrocious if you have no evidence to back it up. If I had children and someone tried to snatch them, I'd flip! I don't care who they thought it was - that's just so scary for the poor child and her parents.

There's no evidence to suggest she was abducted either. Of course they will and should regret it for the rest of their lives. They fúcked up. Whether they had anything to do with her disappearance or not, a very big portion of blame lies with them.

buck65 · 28-07-2011 4:52pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

She isn't going to be found. She is dead.

Where did you bury her?

mikemac · 28-07-2011 4:56pm

Your child is snatched on the street and the police demand you consent to a DNA test to prove the child is yours

Jack Bauer style tactics in India it seems, anything is acceptable to get the result

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 5:03pm

curlywurly26 wrote: »

I think it's awful how people make jokes about the McCanns killing their child when there is no evidence to suggest this.

As for saying they're unfit because they left them in a hotel room, I'd say many a parent has put their child to bed then headed down to a hotel bar without any incidents happening at all. You just wouldn't think being so close that anything could go wrong.

Do you not think that it is something they will regret for the rest of their lives?

As for this story, I agree it's a pile of tosh but I can't believe people would try and snatch a child from it's parents - that's just atrocious if you have no evidence to back it up. If I had children and someone tried to snatch them, I'd flip! I don't care who they thought it was - that's just so scary for the poor child and her parents.

Eh? How much of the case have you actually read? The kids were in a room that could not be seen from where the parents ate and the door was left unlocked. They were right beside a road.

Trained dogs picked up cadavar scent in their apartment (behind a couch and in a cupboard).

The McCanns refused to answer questions vital to the case and left Portugal the moment they were made suspects, despite earlier proclaiming they would never leave without their daughter.

They said the window shutters had been jemmied open and that is how the abductor got in and yet that proved to be false. No such thing happened.

What is the evidence of an abduction? One of their Tapas friends said she saw someone carrying a child but changed her story numerous times. Yeah, plenty of reasons to believe the child was 'abducted'. The evidence is overwhelming.

Saila · 28-07-2011 5:05pm

just when you thought that thing was dead and buried..

the madeleine thread I mean :rolleyes:

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 5:07pm

Saila wrote: »

just when you thought that thing was dead and buried..

the madeleine thread I mean :rolleyes:

Then don't bump it up :rolleyes:

KeithAFC · 28-07-2011 5:09pm

buck65 wrote: »

Where did you bury her?

She died in the apartment.

BostonB · 28-07-2011 5:09pm

curlywurly26 wrote: »

....As for saying they're unfit because they left them in a hotel room, I'd say many a parent has put their child to bed then headed down to a hotel bar .....

For me its utterly wrong to do that.

Saila · 28-07-2011 5:09pm

sunflower27 wrote: »

Then don't bump it up :rolleyes:

I didnt, my post was only 2 minutes after your one, which is the last post before mine

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 5:11pm

Saila wrote: »

I didnt, my post was only 2 minutes after your one, which is the last post before mine

You are doing it again!!!!!

Frank Black · 28-07-2011 5:14pm

Despite the lack of any evidence, I remain convinced that the Roma beggars were involved.
Either them or the Nigerian refugees.

admiralofthefleet · 28-07-2011 5:19pm

i hope its not her because the thread in nein11 is too much fun

stevenmu · 28-07-2011 5:22pm

black francis wrote: »

Despite the lack of any evidence, I remain convinced that the Roma beggars were involved.
Either them or the Nigerian refugees.

It was clearly travellers, they went to Spain, kidnapped her and brought her back to Mullingar.

Radharc na Sleibhte · 28-07-2011 5:22pm

sunflower27 wrote: »

Eh? How much of the case have you actually read? The kids were in a room that could not be seen from where the parents ate

WRONG

sunflower27 wrote: »

and the door was left unlocked.

WRONG

sunflower27 wrote: »

They were right beside a road.

TRUE

sunflower27 wrote: »

Trained dogs picked up cadavar scent in their apartment (behind a couch and in a cupboard).

Proven to be false.
Dogs barked on command.
Dogs entered apartment over three months later when scent would have disappeared.

sunflower27 wrote: »

The McCanns refused to answer questions vital to the case and left Portugal the moment they were made suspects, despite earlier proclaiming they would never leave without their daughter.

FALSE.
They also have two other children in fairness, who are entitled to what normal life they can.

sunflower27 wrote: »

They said the window shutters had been jemmied open and that is how the abductor got in and yet that proved to be false. No such thing happened.

FALSE.
The shutter was lifted, but it doesnt take jemmying.
It lifts freely which they did not realise.

sunflower27 wrote: »

What is the evidence of an abduction? One of their Tapas friends said she saw someone carrying a child but changed her story numerous times. Yeah, plenty of reasons to believe the child was 'abducted'. The evidence is overwhelming.

FALSE.
Story was not changed.
Two other witnesses also saw the same man in a coat carrying a sleeping barefoot child in her pyjamas.

mikemac · 28-07-2011 5:30pm

I think in a decade this case will still be talked about

Much like JonBenet Ramsey

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 5:34pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

WRONG

and the door was left unlocked.[/QUOTE]

WRONG

[/QUOTE]They were right beside a road.[/QUOTE]

TRUE

[/QUOTE]Trained dogs picked up cadavar scent in their apartment (behind a couch and in a cupboard).[/QUOTE]

Proven to be false.
Dogs barked on command.
Dogs entered apartment over three months later when scent would have disappeared.

[/QUOTE]The McCanns refused to answer questions vital to the case and left Portugal the moment they were made suspects, despite earlier proclaiming they would never leave without their daughter.[/QUOTE]

FALSE.
They also have two other children in fairness, who are entitled to what normal life they can.

[/QUOTE]They said the window shutters had been jemmied open and that is how the abductor got in and yet that proved to be false. No such thing happened.[/QUOTE]

FALSE.
The shutter was lifted, but it doesnt take jemmying.
It lifts freely which they did not realise.

[/QUOTE]What is the evidence of an abduction? One of their Tapas friends said she saw someone carrying a child but changed her story numerous times. Yeah, plenty of reasons to believe the child was 'abducted'. The evidence is overwhelming.[/QUOTE]

FALSE.
Story was not changed.
Two other witnesses also saw the same man in a coat carrying a sleeping barefoot child in her pyjamas.[/QUOTE]

Jane Tanner's story was changed. Her description of what the man looked like changed.

The other witnesses (Smiths) said the man they saw was Gerry McCann.

No moss, dust etc was disturbed on the ledge and no chance a grown adult could have got in the window and out without disturbing lichen, moss, etc.

The McCann's said the door was left open. Personally I believe that was only said to aid an abductor story. Who owuld leave all their possessions and three children alone and in an unlocked apartment?

The McCann's were quoted as saying that would not leave Portugal till their daughter was found. They were advised to go as soon as the tide turned and did. News stories about this in 2007 are all over the web.

As for the cadavar scent, it can last up to a year. (google it if you want proof of that)

syklops · 28-07-2011 5:45pm

mikemac wrote: »

I think in a decade this case will still be talked about

Much like JonBenet Ramsey

Or the Lindbergh baby

sunflower27 · 28-07-2011 5:50pm

mikemac wrote: »

I think in a decade this case will still be talked about

Much like JonBenet Ramsey

That was a shocking crime that one. That poor child.

MrStuffins · 28-07-2011 5:50pm

curlywurly26 wrote: »

As for saying they're unfit because they left them in a hotel room, I'd say many a parent has put their child to bed then headed down to a hotel bar without any incidents happening at all. You just wouldn't think being so close that anything could go wrong.

That's ok then! Other people are doing it so it's grand!

Now if you'll excuse me, i'm off to pick someone at random and strangle them to death, sure there's a load of people who have done it. It's grand!

tan11ie · 28-07-2011 5:52pm

Has anyone been to Praia da luz? have you noticed no posters of Maddie remain and how the majority of the locals believe the parents are responsible for her disappearance. Quite an eerie feeling...

EL_Loco · 28-07-2011 5:54pm

Did they look at her eye? The one that was pointed out to have a feature in the posters?

DNA me hole, Ted.

TheIrishGrover · 28-07-2011 5:55pm

Madeleine McCann spotted? Book sales must be dropping so.......... Either that or there's a movie deal

Little Acorn · 28-07-2011 6:11pm

McCann's spokesperson Clarence Mitchell has said this:

Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for Madeleine’s parents Gerry and Kate McCann, has reported : “Our private investigators are aware of the reports from India over the weekend about a possible sighting of Madeleine.
“We are liaising with the Indian authorities over the incident and await the results of the DNA test.”

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CDwQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.christianpost.com%2Fnews%2Fmadeleine-mccann-sighting-in-india-being-investigated-52975%2F&ei=jZUxTs7nJM-5hAeGlrmVCw&usg=AFQjCNFO5zEKhMkjRB-j-LqSIo7vHtS9sA

Just read this, the Indian police chief has said there are no DNA tests being done and that they haven't even picked up a girl!

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2011%2F07%2F28%2Fmadeleine-mccann-sighting-india-investigation-_n_912011.html&ei=jZUxTs7nJM-5hAeGlrmVCw&usg=AFQjCNHzYhaDuWc3QhFJOhr2UMvbOlegGw

A regional Indian police chief told CNN that he knew nothing about the sighting, and dismissed reports of a possible DNA test on the girl. "We have not recovered any girl from Leh," said Abdul Gani Mir, deputy inspector general of police for central Kashmir and Leh. "I checked and re-checked from my officers on ground in Leh and they have categorically told me they have not recovered the girl."

theg81der · 28-07-2011 6:11pm

I will never stop hoping that Madeline or any other missing person will be found. I know personally the hell that the family is going through and I wouldn`t wish it on my worst enemy.

Please God!

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 28-07-2011 6:16pm

For those that think the McCanns are innocent - explain the sniffer dog that had never been wrong even once in hundreds of cases, smelling death on the stairs, sofa, and Kate McCann's clothes?

DNA test on child that could be Madeleine McCann...

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