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MPs just put a gun to DUP's head

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    #32
    circadian
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    I'd say Sammy Wilson's blood pressure is through the roof. Delighted for the bigoted fools in the DUP.

    His face is heating an entire room at this stage.


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    #33
    Loafing Oaf
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    I'd say Sammy Wilson's blood pressure is through the roof. Delighted for the bigoted fools in the DUP.

    Sammy's a swinger though. Betcha he's secretly delighted women in NI can now terminate 'inconvenient' pregnancies with minimum inconvenience...


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    #34
    Ten of Swords
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    Nigel Dodds a reaction was very telling
    (the proposals drive) a coach and horses through the principle of devolution.

    Couldn't come with a modern analogy, sums up the DUP right there I think!

    https://www.thejournal.ie/same-sex-marriage-abortion-north-4717703-Jul2019/

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    #35
    Yer Da sells Avon
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    I'd say Sammy Wilson's blood pressure is through the roof. Delighted for the bigoted fools in the DUP.

    Sounds like a bum deal for him alright.

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    #36
    steddyeddy
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    I imagine the frequency of phone calls Sinn Fein is getting now is wearing out their batteries fairly fast.


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    #37
    Loafing Oaf
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    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    I don't know, I haven't seen the exact wording of the bill. Does it legalise it from October 21st onwards or just give Britain the right to legislate for it from that date? If it's the latter then further legislation will be required and could be subject to delays etc

    Does anyone know the specifics of the bill?

    Yes if these genuinely are 'devolved'issues I don't see how the Commons can hold a gun to the DUP's head like this.


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    #38
    AndyBoBandy
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    circadian wrote: »
    His face is heating an entire room barn at this stage.

    Arlene fixed that for you now ;)


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    #39
    bmc58
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    leitrim4life wrote: »
    https://news.sky.com/story/mps-vote-to-legalise-same-sex-marriage-in-northern-ireland-if-no-new-stormont-executive-11759880

    Come on Arlene,the next move is yours.


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    #40
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Yes if these genuinely are 'devolved'issues I don't see how the Commons can hold a gun to the DUP's head like this.

    Because for devolution to work, you need an assembly.


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    #41
    McMurphy
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    There will almost certainly be no return to Stormount this year by the looks of things.


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    #42
    [Deleted User]
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    SF will insist on same sex marriage and abortion rights in assembly negotiations anyway, so it will happen one way or another.


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    #43
    Loafing Oaf
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    Flying Fox wrote: »
    SF will insist on same sex marriage and abortion rights in assembly negotiations anyway, so it will happen one way or another.

    Possibly if the assembly returns after the deadline, abortion and SSM will be the law of the land, and it will require the support of both main parties to overturn them, whereas as things stood up to now they would both have to voted to introduce them?


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    #44
    bingbong500
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Yes if these genuinely are 'devolved'issues I don't see how the Commons can hold a gun to the DUP's head like this.

    There is no-one there to devolve to.


    This suits the DUP. They were never going to win on either issue but this way they can still claim to have had it forced on them by Westminster.


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    #45
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    The DUP knew this was coming. Now it will go through and they can blame the government. Sinn Fein will see this as an advancement of the equality agenda and that the DUP have swallowed a decent bit of pain, so Sinn Fein will agree to go back into Stormont too. Power Sharing will be up and running by winter.


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    #46
    James Brown
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    This is a dilly of a pickle. If they fight this it'll really look bad for them. It's the kind of thing the world watches, it's above and beyond their petty anti Irish language stuff.


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    #47
    maccored
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    Arleen will have to come clean about the RHI scandal before SF go into office in Stormont. She's not doing that anytime soon


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    #48
    Annasopra
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    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    Sinn Fein have campaigned for same sex marriage in NI for a long time and when the health ministry came under Sinn Fein control they reversed the lifetime ban on MSM blood donors.

    Guess we will have to see how this plays out, if Stormont does start up before October 21st the DUP will have this blocked immediately with a petition of concern

    But SF would insist they couldn't do that!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #49
    Guy:Incognito
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    This is a dilly of a pickle. If they fight this it'll really look bad for them.

    Cos theyve been behind the door with their opinions up till now?


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    #50
    ollkiller
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    L O fcuking L

    Exactly what I was thinking.


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    #51
    fergus1001
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:
    L O fcuking L


    hahahahahaha

    hahahahahaha

    hahahahahaha

    hahahahahaha

    bigoted prats


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    #52
    Pissartist
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    In other words the DUP have to decide whether they hate gay people or people who speak Irish more! Absolutely delighted for the bigots.

    Not sure disagreeing with Ssm equates to hating gays


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    #53
    steddyeddy
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    Not sure disagreeing with Ssm equates to hating gays

    Well cling onto that belief if it makes you feel better P. Here's a quote from Ian Paisley Junior on his feelings towards gay people:

    "I am pretty repulsed by gay and lesbianism. I think it is wrong. I think that those people harm themselves and – without caring about it – harm society. That doesn't mean to say that I hate them – I mean, I hate what they do"

    Usually they do hate gays, just lack the balls to say it.


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    #54
    ILoveYourVibes
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    LOL


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    #55
    Calhoun
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    Lol, about time. They want to be governed exactly the same as the UK except when it suits, good enough for them.


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    #56
    Loafing Oaf
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    IMO the muted reaction to this so far shows how far last year's referendum has taken a lot of the heat out of the abortion issue across the island. So far, there's been a desultory handful of posts about it on politics.ie, whereas if this had happened five years ago the place would be in uproar all evening with denunciations of baby-murdering Brits...


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    #57
    Pissartist
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Well cling onto that belief if it makes you feel better P. Here's a quote from Ian Paisley Junior on his feelings towards gay people:

    "I am pretty repulsed by gay and lesbianism. I think it is wrong. I think that those people harm themselves and – without caring about it – harm society. That doesn't mean to say that I hate them – I mean, I hate what they do"

    Usually they do hate gays, just lack the balls to say it.

    You're quoting Ian paisley, hardly a reflection on all people who disagree with Ssm.


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    #58
    Faugheen
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    Not sure disagreeing with Ssm equates to hating gays

    There's always one.

    Pretty sure trying to tell two people that they can't get married because of their sexuality is the same as hating the gays.


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    #59
    Auguste Comte
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    I can't wait for the orange pride march down the Garvaghy Road.


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    #60
    LuckyLloyd
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    IMO the muted reaction to this so far shows how far last year's referendum has taken a lot of the heat out of the abortion issue across the island. So far, there's been a desultory handful of posts about it on politics.ie, whereas if this had happened five years ago the place would be in uproar all evening with denunciations of baby-murdering Brits...

    It was such a clear clean victory - knocked the stuffing out of the anti choice movement.


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    #61
    McMurphy
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    You're quoting Ian paisley, hardly a reflection on all people who disagree with Ssm.

    Clear enough reflection on all the DUP members who disagree with it though.


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