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Woman who died after putting her head out of a moving train window

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    #32
    Sorry about that
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    Bethan made a stupid decision, which she paid for with her life. She didn't harm anyone else.
    Leave her alone now.


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    #33
    um7y1h83ge06nx
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    Old enough at 28, impossible to understand some people's thoughts and actions.


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    #34
    Yer Da sells Avon
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    There are few things more unoriginal, unimaginative and unpleasant than smugly responding to a tragedy with a reference to 'Darwinism'.


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    #35
    Mysterypunter
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    It was a silly thing to do, blaming a lack of signs, is just as silly, tomorrow I think I will jump into the lion enclosure at the zoo to take a selfie, does anyone think that would be a good idea? Sad that the girl died, worse still that people are making fun of her, but at 28 you are not a child


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    #36
    Irish Guitarist
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    So the word 'caution' caused some misunderstanding. What's the excuse for not understanding the words 'Do not lean out of window when train is moving'?

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    #37
    lawred2
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    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    I have no idea why you think a grown adult shouldn't be expected to understand what a caution sign means. Throwing in a couple of big words doesn't make your argument less ridiculous.

    Again, responding with an argument to a point that nobody made.


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    #38
    Airyfairy12
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    That is so sad, the poor girl, her family and the friends who watched her die. Young people think theyre invincible, they don't see the dangers.
    RIP.


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    #39
    Your Face
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    Don't be silly OP, socialists can't read.


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    #40
    end of the road
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    listermint wrote: »
    You'd have to question why the trains window comes down far enough to put your head out of it.

    Tree branches shouldn't be anywhere near close enough to the train on inter city lines.

    It's pretty incredible that there was a tree that close to a train on a main line in the UK. The train company and maintenance are to blame here. Sign or no sign. If they are going to cut back on basic line maintenance like this then they should lock or limit the window openings.

    the window has to come down as one as to put their hand out and open the door from the outside at the station.
    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    There are few things more unoriginal, unimaginative and unpleasant than smugly responding to a tragedy with a reference to 'Darwinism'.


    fair point, but anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that you do not mess with the railway. the railway will always win.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #41
    thecornflake
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    Airyfairy12 wrote: »
    That is so sad, the poor girl, her family and the friends who watched her die. Young people think theyre invincible, they don't see the dangers.
    RIP.

    More like they didn't see the cautions.


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    #42
    ToddyDoody
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    That'd never happen in Ireland.

    They dont trust us with windows in the first place. Probably make the trains uninsurable if they did have them.


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    #43
    Victor
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    In the 19th century, 20,000 railway workers will killed or injured every year in the UK (then including Ireland). "Injured" was more likely to be broken limbs than cut fingers. The 'problem' was that minor transgressions of the rules, by someone, could have disproportionate effects on them or someone else. Things didn't improve until the railway companies were made responsible.

    A safe system would mean a minor transgression won't result in serious harm. What happened in this case was a older train didn't have an up-to-date safety system in place.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is it victim blaming to say that this young socialist was a gob****e if she didn't see there was any potentially fatal consequence to sticking your head out of a moving train?!
    Up to 10-15 years ago, there were quite a few Irish trains where you could stick your head out and many people did. I've heard of at least one case of someone dying.


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    #44
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    Deleted User wrote: »

    Is it victim blaming to say that this young socialist was a gob****e if she didn't see there was any potentially fatal consequence to sticking your head out of a moving train?!

    WTF does that have to with anything? :confused:


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    #45
    [Deleted User]
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    Jesus imagine being behind her in the train. Sad story. People do stupid things without thinking properly and sometimes they die needlessly.

    I've done similarly stupid things and had it gone wrong, would be nominated for a Darwin award.


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    #46
    Squeeonline
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    To quote Taylor Swift "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".


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    #47
    BeerWolf
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    Era of Smartphones ironically increased idiocy of people.

    "Inadequate" conveyance of risk... honestly... Do people need to be told not to breath while underwater to prevent drowning? That's the kind of logic being perceived here...


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    #48
    Keyzer
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    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Era of Smartphones ironically increased idiocy of people.

    "Inadequate" conveyance of risk... honestly... Do people need to be told not to breath while underwater to prevent drowning? That's the kind of logic being perceived here...

    Couldn't agree more.

    Terribly sad for the girls family but its nobodys fault but hers - saddest part is she lost her life through an act of incredible stupidity.


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    #49
    Oasis1974
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    Weird thought she was decapitated she got a slap off a branch and fell back in the carriage and died must be some money for the family since no cutting was done on the line since 2009.


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    #50
    ToddyDoody
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    Squeeonline wrote: »
    To quote Taylor Swift "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

    e.g. Taylor Swift merchandise.


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    #51
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
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    Distasteful thread.


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    #52
    lab man
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    z


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    #53
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Amirani wrote: »
    You can think she's stupid and all, but that sort of statement suggests a lack of empathy bordering on psychopathy.
    suicide_circus wrote: »
    rubbish

    No, Amirani is pretty spot on. I would bet good money that more than half the respondents to this thread have at some point in their adult life had a momentary lapse into dangerous stupidity. Most people get away with it though and then it’s oh so easy to climb up on the sanctimony pony. She suffered the worst case scenario. That’s sad and unfortunate.


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    #54
    Grab All Association
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    the mk2 and craven carriages when the smoking ban was introduced. they were still in service between 2004-2008. Scumbag types would stick their arms out the window hiding their cigarettes. I’m surprised it never happened here during those 4 years.


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    #55
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    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Distasteful thread.

    The main point is that it was a stupid and irresponsible thing to do, but the fact that investigators have even alluded that the responsibility was not laid 100% on the tragic girl is beyond ridiculous.

    She made a silly choice and paid the ultimate price. It is very sad for her family but it doesn't negate the fact that she was responsible for her actions.

    Yes, the tree should have been trimmed according to guidelines but unless the tree encroached so far that it hit the carriage, it would have been perfectly safe to travel once your head wasn't outside the moving train.

    Saying that the caution sign wasn't specific enough or was the wrong colour is a damning indictment of how people clamour for a nanny state while at the same time, most of these people are up in arms when the government encroach on their personal choices.


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    #56
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The main point is that it was a stupid and irresponsible thing to do, but the fact that investigators have even alluded that the responsibility was not laid 100% on the tragic girl is beyond ridiculous.

    She made a silly choice and paid the ultimate price. It is very sad for her family but it doesn't negate the fact that she was responsible for her actions.

    Yes, the tree should have been trimmed according to guidelines but unless the tree encroached so far that it hit the carriage, it would have been perfectly safe to travel once your head wasn't outside the moving train.

    Saying that the caution sign wasn't specific enough or was the wrong colour is a damning indictment of how people clamour for a nanny state while at the same time, most of these people are up in arms when the government encroach on their personal choices.

    That kind of argument isn’t what’s distasteful, it’s the gloating at the death of a young woman.

    That said that particular line is fairly open and free of tunnels and mostly free of encroachments from trees or hedges, she was prettty unlucky.


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    #57
    marieholmfan
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-50067073

    The warning sign which stated "Caution: Do not lean out of the window while the train is moving" wasn't adequate enough because it wasn't in red, and the use of the word "caution" didn't convey the seriousness of possible injury?!?!

    Jesus Christ!

    Is it victim blaming to say that this young socialist was a gob****e if she didn't see there was any potentially fatal consequence to sticking your head out of a moving train?!
    Very sad to see such an intelligent moral and pretty young woman die.


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    #58
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    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    That kind of argument isn’t what’s distasteful, it’s the gloating at the death of a young woman.

    That said that particular line is fairly open and free of tunnels and mostly free of encroachments from trees or hedges, she was prettty unlucky.

    While I agree that it is distasteful to gloat, I still think that recognising her stupidity and culpability isn't.


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    #59
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    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Very sad to see such an intelligent moral and pretty young woman die.

    What, in the article about sticking her head out of a moving train, suggested she was intelligent?


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    #60
    Billy Mays
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    WTF does that have to with anything? :confused:
    Nothing obviously


    Just an unnecessary dig by the OP hoping for a bite. Job dunne I suppose rolleyes.png


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    #61
    marieholmfan
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    What, in the article about sticking her head out of a moving train, suggested she was intelligent?
    She was a university student and presumably was quite intelligent. I don't say that the act of sticking her head of a moving train was intelligent.


    In fact the consequences were tragic and in my opinion this whole discussion should be deleted.


    Anyone criticising her intelligence is a sad and bitter twisted little freak.


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