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15-04-2019, 16:11   #46
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People are always looking for someone or something convinent to blame for their ****ty lives. It's horrible but with the rise of far right populism, Jewish people always seem to be in the firing line.
Except in Palestine.
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What's Charlie Flanagan's views on Jews? Is he embarrassed about his father's views?
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I don't think any person can honestly say he or she understands the Holocaust. The magnitude of its evil is unfathomable. Hannah Arendt's 'banality of evil' carried out by enormous numbers of "normal" people. And that's the scary part we all need to be alert to in these populist times where many people are simply not learning about the Holocaust.
You may notice a trend in my posts throughout boards. It's that people are stupid. And I think it's important for us to remember that as individuals.

We like to think that if we'd lived in nazi Germany we wouldn't have fallen for the lies and hatred but there's a good chance that we would have. There's nothing special about us as individuals. We all have the same ability to fall for propaganda and lies. The fact that there are people like anti semites, or even flat earthers, shows how people can still fall for the craziest ideas.

BTW, Arendt is one of my favorite philosophers. Even if she hated people saying she was a philosopher. During the war she wondered what good they were.
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What's Charlie Flanagan's views on Jews? Is he embarrassed about his father's views?
FFS That was 70 years ago.
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FFS That was 70 years ago.
What was 70 years ago?
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15-04-2019, 16:47   #51
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What was 70 years ago?
1949...
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Also the Jewish history over the centuries as money lenders (believe related to some loophole in the bible) made them resented and marginalised by the society relying on those services

"Usury" was forbidden as sinful by the Church up until the 16th Century. It had gradually been creeping in for a hundred or so years before that (eg, the Medicis). Then a speciallly convened group of Jesuit theologians found a way of justifying it and the ban disappeared.


In earlier centuries, and in want of alternatives, people turned to Jews for their money lending needs. They were happy to get it but not always happy to re-pay it. A way out was to demonise the "moneylending Jew" with whatever accusations. The law was more likely to favour the "christian" accuser in such situations. Witness the caricature of Shylock in the Merchant of Venice.


Also, princes and kings, etc from time to time might find an urge to "punish sin" in their domains. They could do this by attacking Jews and confiscating their money and valuables as ill-gotten gains of usury. They generally found the need to "punish sin" when their coffers were running short.


Jews have always been the scapegoats.
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1949...
Yes. He hasn't returned to tell about what happened then!
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A question I've asked many times and have never received a satisfactory answer: Why, in the last few hundred years, are the Jews the most persecuted race in Europe?
There must be a good reason.
It's hard to get an unbiased answer to this question because the media is largely under Jewish ownership and control. Hence any google, youtube or amazon searches come up blank or rather produce material on "the causes of anti-Semitism" written, of course, by Jews.

Thomas Dalton in his "Eternal Strangers: Anti-Jewish Musings throughout History" articles says the following:

"...the evident persistence of certain complaints across
millennia and over diverse nations and societies is indicative of a real,
objective, underlying cause: personal and sociological Jewish traits
that have a large genetic component. Five themes in particular stand
out as dominant and enduring criticisms: (1) a fixation on money and
material wealth, marked by economic deception, theft, and usury; (2)
disproportionate and irresponsible use of power, in the spheres of politics, intellectual discourse, and media; (3) seditious, rebellious, and
war-mongering behavior; (4) vice-ridden, morally weak, and exploitative of others’ vices; and (5) misanthropic. Where Jews appear, so too
do these problems. The form and intensity of their manifestation may
be culture-specific, but their presence is virtually guaranteed, indicating a strong racial or ethnic origin."

https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v...-2011-2012.pdf
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Thomas Dalton
Didn't take long for the holocaust deniers to show up. A chance to vent their antisemitic spleen not to be missed. Not the first time on Boards at all.

Yes, Dalton's a denier. His garbage is up on CODOH's site, another nexus of denier bullsh1t.
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I think I am more semitic than those "semites". Title should antijudaism and not antisemitism.
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It's hard to get an unbiased answer to this question because the media is largely under Jewish ownership and control. Hence any google, youtube or amazon searches come up blank or rather produce material on "the causes of anti-Semitism" written, of course, by Jews.

Thomas Dalton in his "Eternal Strangers: Anti-Jewish Musings throughout History" articles says the following:

"...the evident persistence of certain complaints across
millennia and over diverse nations and societies is indicative of a real,
objective, underlying cause: personal and sociological Jewish traits
that have a large genetic component. Five themes in particular stand
out as dominant and enduring criticisms: (1) a fixation on money and
material wealth, marked by economic deception, theft, and usury; (2)
disproportionate and irresponsible use of power, in the spheres of politics, intellectual discourse, and media; (3) seditious, rebellious, and
war-mongering behavior; (4) vice-ridden, morally weak, and exploitative of others’ vices; and (5) misanthropic. Where Jews appear, so too
do these problems. The form and intensity of their manifestation may
be culture-specific, but their presence is virtually guaranteed, indicating a strong racial or ethnic origin."

https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v...-2011-2012.pdf
Thomas Dalton the holocaust denier?
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It's hard to get an unbiased answer to this question because the media is largely under Jewish ownership and control. Hence any google, youtube or amazon searches come up blank or rather produce material on "the causes of anti-Semitism" written, of course, by Jews.

Thomas Dalton in his "Eternal Strangers: Anti-Jewish Musings throughout History" articles says the following:

"...the evident persistence of certain complaints across
millennia and over diverse nations and societies is indicative of a real,
objective, underlying cause: personal and sociological Jewish traits
that have a large genetic component. Five themes in particular stand
out as dominant and enduring criticisms: (1) a fixation on money and
material wealth, marked by economic deception, theft, and usury; (2)
disproportionate and irresponsible use of power, in the spheres of politics, intellectual discourse, and media; (3) seditious, rebellious, and
war-mongering behavior; (4) vice-ridden, morally weak, and exploitative of others’ vices; and (5) misanthropic. Where Jews appear, so too
do these problems. The form and intensity of their manifestation may
be culture-specific, but their presence is virtually guaranteed, indicating a strong racial or ethnic origin."

https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v...-2011-2012.pdf
Uh oh..
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Did Dalton write anything about the innate tendencies of the Irish. After all we have been described as thick, feckless, drunken, violent, deceitful, apelike, piglike, cunning, etc. They even had pictures and images to prove it. Maybe Dalton should check if we are Jewish too ?

https://thesocietypages.org/socimage...-humanization/
https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_..._620/image.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...eyirishman.jpg

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