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05-01-2019, 16:45   #46
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Yes but we don't know if he is being coerced into doing it or not. At the end of the day if his parents choose to support him by allowing him to do it then that's their choice. You can call it bad parenting but that's clearly not how they see it from their perspective.
At the risk of straying close to the ban qualifiers, er, you do realise, don't you, that there is a wholly sexual element in the Desmond is Amazing thing. You think it's camp cutesieness, maybe? No. It's titillation. Sexual Titillation. And there are very good reasons we protect children from being the objects/subjects of sexual titillation.
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The United States of America aka the worlds biggest open air asylum!!

this is not normal. Poor kid
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Interesting mod note there. Point something out that has countless data to back it up and get "severely punished".

There goes another open debate. Enjoy your nice safe little echo chamber regardless of how serious this debate is
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At the risk of straying close to the ban qualifiers, er, you do realise, don't you, that there is a wholly sexual element in the Desmond is Amazing thing. You think it's camp cutesieness, maybe? No. It's titillation. Sexual Titillation. And there are very good reasons we protect children from being the objects/subjects of sexual titillation.
I can certainly see that point of view but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is true.



He doesn't seem unhappy in this interview granted it could all be an act but how would we know if it is or isn't what he truly wants to do and wants to be.
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The United States of America aka the worlds biggest open air asylum!!

this is not normal. Poor kid
What a load of nonsense. Typical anti-American and anti-Trump rubbish.

If these people were serious about the security of their children, they would not have risked their children's lives travelling thousands of miles across dangerous terrain and sweltering heat. But they did so anyway.

And there claims of asylum are false. Asylum means seeking refuge in the first country you enter. They not only didn't do that, but they continued to ignore the will of US sovereignty in crossing the border.

Trump and America have every right to enforce border security and the integrity of the United States. It is not anybody else's fault that these people choose to not only ignore US constitutional law, but the countless warnings they were given.
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Sparsely means fell-length jeans, apparently. I've seen more "sparsely-dressed" hot-blooded 40-year-old guys outside pubs in the summer wacthing football and riding Harley Davidson motorocycles!
(Zorya posts clip about twerking)

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Yeah, the twerking's a bit far, granted.
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I SPECICALLY said "jeans" in reponse to "sparsely dressed" BEFORE you posted the twerking video. Now either read the posts proprly, or put me on ignore.
Is proven.


So, if ANYWAY wants to make a claim on what I said or did not say - ****ING PROVE IT. Sorry for the rant and langauge, but that's three times I've said the same thing in reponse to vague unproven claims in posts containing "no you didn't" and **** all else.

There will not, to quote Hans Gruber, be a fourth.
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Well leaving a toddler up a roof is considerably more dangerous than allowing a child to dance in some shorts so they are not the same thing really. At the end of the day if his parents choose to support him by allowing him to do it then that's their choice. You can call it bad parenting but that's clearly not how they see it from their perspective.
Ok, so allowing your child to dance in a sexualised way for the entertainment of adults in an all adult environment, hang out with murderers and mimic drug taking, and (hopefully only) act like they are on drugs themselves isn't bad parenting now? Take out the drag/lgbt element and no one would be defending this.

It seems to me that this child has been groomed from a young age to be exploited, first by his parents and now by any of the other potentially dubious characters who have access to him.

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Well leaving a toddler up a roof is considerably more dangerous than allowing a child to dance in some shorts so they are not the same thing really. At the end of the day if his parents choose to support him by allowing him to do it then that's their choice. You can call it bad parenting but that's clearly not how they see it from their perspective.
It's not just dancing in some shorts though. It's dancing in a gay bar in front of adults who are giving him tips like one would a stripper in a strip club.
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The kid isn't even a good dancer
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Ok, so allowing your child to dance in a sexualised way for the entertainment of adults in an all adult environment, hang out with murderers and mimic drug taking, and (hopefully only) act like they are on drugs themselves isn't bad parenting now? Take out the drag/lbgt element and no one would be defending this.

It seems to me that this child has been groomed from a young age to be exploited.
I didn't say that it wasn't bad parenting I said that's not how the parents of the child would view it from their perspective.


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It seems to me that this child has been groomed from a young age to be exploited.
So now his parents went from being bad parents to being paedos that's a fairly big leap to make.
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There is an awful lot wrong with how this kid is treated and the leeway that his being associated with LGBTQ groups is basically allowing a free pass for extremely questionable parenting.

IMHO the community needs to take a stand on this, to call out the ethical and moral issues this raises and address them head on.
Rather than lionize an exploited child as an example of "pride", surely it's more appropriate to ensure a safe, and unsexualised or even open to such misinterpretation childhood than it is to make a kid a fùcking Gogo dancer for tips!?
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Honestly if this isn't borderline paedophillia what is? Is it because we are too afraid to call out these people as they purport to be from the LGBT community?? When is the bloody world going to wake up to this nonsense?!
It's the same approach to when a terrorist attack happens and the repeated mantra of

"That it had nothing to do with Islam"

Disagree and get punished
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What a load of nonsense. Typical anti-American and anti-Trump rubbish.

If these people were serious about the security of their children, they would not have risked their children's lives travelling thousands of miles across dangerous terrain and sweltering heat. But they did so anyway.

And there claims of asylum are false. Asylum means seeking refuge in the first country you enter. They not only didn't do that, but they continued to ignore the will of US sovereignty in crossing the border.

Trump and America have every right to enforce border security and the integrity of the United States. It is not anybody else's fault that these people choose to not only ignore US constitutional law, but the countless warnings they were given.

What you ****ing about?? Open Air Asylum refers to a joke that that place is one big open air mental Asylum

Lol relax
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