Why do junkies always walk out in front of traffic?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-09-2019 9:21pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Ok seriously ill spell it out for you THEY HAVE FREE TRAVEL PASSES.....

NOT ALL OF THEM.

punisher5112 · 04-09-2019 9:27pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

NOT ALL OF THEM.

No as I stated only if they apply....

Obviously those in full employment also that are on hard drugs but so far have been able to hide doing so.

Look I couldn't give a fiddler's if you don't believe me but as I said I work with them and I know very well what I'm talking about.

Tikki Wang Wang · 04-09-2019 9:28pm

14dMoney wrote: »

I've noticed this around the city. People will stop at a crossing and wait patiently, and Anto and Deco will just walk straight out in front of speeding cars, which then have to slam on their brakes. What is with this reckless abandon? Is it something that comes with heroin?

I’m eating my breakfast, Kate

corner of hells · 04-09-2019 9:43pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Yes they do I work with them.... They are given the pass and even quite a few get spouse pass.

This is the same argument thrown out there that kids don't have social welfare bus passes as they do.

No way , you work with addicts.
So do I , in drugs services and homeless services at all different levels.
Addicts do not get free travel , if they are on a disability allowance, they'll qualify.

the_syco · 04-09-2019 9:56pm

14dMoney wrote: »

Anto and Deco will just walk straight out in front of speeding cars

They're homeless. If they get hit, they'll spend time in a hospital, in a warm bed, and daily food.

Also, they'll get money that they can spend on drugs.

Working class heroes · 04-09-2019 10:29pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Yes they do I work with them.... They are given the pass and even quite a few get spouse pass.

This is the same argument thrown out there that kids don't have social welfare bus passes as they do.

Nope.

Working class heroes · 04-09-2019 10:30pm

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

You don't get out much if you've never seen a junkie using their free bus pass on public transport. 99% of them I've seen use one and I've often seen them getting their mate on it with them for free. It's an absolute joke.

Again, nonsense.

Edgware · 04-09-2019 10:53pm

Stowrwy bud, any loose change for a hostel?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-09-2019 10:53pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

No as I stated only if they apply....

Obviously those in full employment also that are on hard drugs but so far have been able to hide doing so.

Look I couldn't give a fiddler's if you don't believe me but as I said I work with them and I know very well what I'm talking about.

You don’t work with all the junkies. And a junkie could have one for other reason, as being a junkie and having a medical condition aren’t mutually-exclusive.

I’ve been through the process of getting free travel in the recent past. It’s not easy. Like I said, not even all cancer patients get it, even some who use public transport daily to get to treatment. Those battered travel passes that didn’t feature a photo ID aren’t accepted anymore. The new ID makes scamming much more difficult. You need to get it first of all. And certainly companion passes aren’t handed out willy nilly.

worded · 04-09-2019 10:57pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

Its not just junkies op. It's people who've been brought up with an attitude that other people need to watch out for them and keep out of their way.

When ever bump into anyone just say .... “Why don’t you watch where I’m going ! “

worded · 04-09-2019 11:00pm

Ah here .... give us a brake

https://youtu.be/k-UjRhP_dbI

punisher5112 · 04-09-2019 11:01pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

You don’t work with all the junkies. And a junkie could have one for other reason, as being a junkie and having a medical condition aren’t mutually-exclusive.

I’ve been through the process of getting free travel in the recent past. It’s not easy. Like I said, not even all cancer patients get it, even some who use public transport daily to get to treatment. Those battered travel passes that didn’t feature a photo ID aren’t accepted anymore. The new ID makes scamming much more difficult. You need to get it first of all. And certainly companion passes aren’t handed out willy nilly.

Oh for the love of God.... I'm well fn aware my mother had cancer and passed away young....

As she had worked and my father worked even though on absolute SH1t pay she was still turned down.... 4 kids, mortgage and all the medicine, it's actually so sad we had to go through what we did so young and my parents and us got no help..

I'm fooking sick to death what i see going on out there.

pgj2015 · 04-09-2019 11:07pm

worded wrote: »

Ah here .... give us a brake

https://youtu.be/k-UjRhP_dbI

:pac::pac: the yop

punisher5112 · 04-09-2019 11:08pm

Usually see them with lucozade

skooterblue2 · 04-09-2019 11:54pm

Hey diddle de dee
A Junkies life for me!,
A tab of methadone and pint of Yop!
A track suit bottoms and a shiney top!
Hi Diddle de day a junkies life is great.
Trouble with the law? There is FLA for me,
Hi Diddle de dum life is never glum
A shot of a needle and a box of pills
a ride in an ambulance and a bed in A&E
A junkies life for me!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD78dtBhwtw

Working class heroes · 05-09-2019 7:24am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Oh for the love of God.... I'm well fn aware my mother had cancer and passed away young....

As she had worked and my father worked even though on absolute SH1t pay she was still turned down.... 4 kids, mortgage and all the medicine, it's actually so sad we had to go through what we did so young and my parents and us got no help..

I'm fooking sick to death what i see going on out there.

Hey, we all have a sad story. Doesn’t make you right.

Foweva Awone · 05-09-2019 7:25am

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Do either of you actually know this? What’s the process for a drug addict getting a free travel pass? Enlighten me. I’d love to compare it to my own experience.

Purely anecdotal evidence here ...

When I was last in treatment (2 years ago) there were 20 women in the centre, almost all of whom were on social welfare of some sort. All would have been in addiction for years.

Only two of us were on disability benefit (and therefore we were the only two with free travel cards) - I was on disability due to severe mental health issues, the other woman had HIV and liver failure.

It's actually a really long difficult process to get on disability allowance, I've never heard of anyone qualifying purely on the grounds of their addiction. If anything I'd imagine my addiction would have gone against me in my application.

Those addicts you see using free travel passes on the buses, I'd imagine a lot of the time the passes belong to sick or elderly relatives. After all, it's not like they usually show them to the driver, they just scan them on the machine. Everyone is entitled to a free travel pass once they turn 65, so I'd say it's not too difficult to find someone to borrow one off.

Thelonious Monk · 05-09-2019 9:41am

Also remember that many addicts become invalids and lose a limb or lose the use of their legs from infections. The addict I know will probably have to get one of his legs removed sooner or later, constantly in and out of hospital with blood clots.

Edgware · 05-09-2019 10:22am

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Also remember that many addicts become invalids and lose a limb or lose the use of their legs from infections. The addict I know will probably have to get one of his legs removed sooner or later, constantly in and out of hospital with blood clots.

And?

Thelonious Monk · 05-09-2019 10:41am

Edgware wrote: »

And?

And therefore they probably get disability passes for transport

punisher5112 · 05-09-2019 10:49am

Oh lord jebus, I'm out.....

As I said go look at any getting on a bus or train etc..... They nearly all now have the new type pass.

Yes of course some were using stolen ones over the years but some of these were just scum bags too.

How do you all think it's over a million now on free travel and rising also a huge number are eligible to be companion to pass holder.

As I said not all as some don't apply but what I do know is at least 80% if not more have them.

corner of hells · 05-09-2019 11:02am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Oh lord jebus, I'm out.....

As I said go look at any getting on a bus or train etc..... They nearly all now have the new type pass.

Yes of course some were using stolen ones over the years but some of these were just scum bags too.

How do you all think it's over a million now on free travel and rising also a huge number are eligible to be companion to pass holder.

As I said not all as some don't apply but what I do know is at least 80% if not more have them.

Would you not apply ?
I'm sure your rage would entitle you one .

punisher5112 · 05-09-2019 11:09am

corner of hells wrote: »

Would you not apply ?
I'm sure your rage would entitle you one .

You ok hun

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 05-09-2019 12:30pm

Foweva Awone wrote: »

Purely anecdotal evidence here ...

When I was last in treatment (2 years ago) there were 20 women in the centre, almost all of whom were on social welfare of some sort. All would have been in addiction for years.

Only two of us were on disability benefit (and therefore we were the only two with free travel cards) - I was on disability due to severe mental health issues, the other woman had HIV and liver failure.

It's actually a really long difficult process to get on disability allowance, I've never heard of anyone qualifying purely on the grounds of their addiction. If anything I'd imagine my addiction would have gone against me in my application.

Those addicts you see using free travel passes on the buses, I'd imagine a lot of the time the passes belong to sick or elderly relatives. After all, it's not like they usually show them to the driver, they just scan them on the machine. Everyone is entitled to a free travel pass once they turn 65, so I'd say it's not too difficult to find someone to borrow one off.

Yes, thank you. They are not just handed out. I hope you’re doing well now.

The bolded bit - yeah, that probably does happen. That is them fraudulently using somebody else’s pass rather than qualifying for one themselves. Any money saved on fare can be used to feed an addiction.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 05-09-2019 1:06pm

When your life has little relevance and you are genuinely regarded as scum of the earth, it's nice to know you can still matter in some small way by casually stepping in front of oncoming vehicles and know if the drivers don't want to get sued or have your hep infested blood on their windshield, they will have to slow down or stop.

Lux23 · 05-09-2019 1:08pm

Because they're high and they don't care about rules.

Fiftyfilthy · 05-09-2019 1:13pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Oh lord jebus, I'm out.....

As I said go look at any getting on a bus or train etc..... They nearly all now have the new type pass.

Yes of course some were using stolen ones over the years but some of these were just scum bags too.

How do you all think it's over a million now on free travel and rising also a huge number are eligible to be companion to pass holder.

As I said not all as some don't apply but what I do know is at least 80% if not more have them.

You’re correct. They might not necessarily get a pass due to being a junkie scumbag but the majority are on d bleedn disibility

They have key workers, social workers, doctors, nurses all at their beckon call

Plenty of advice to get their bleedn entitlements

I say **** them . ****ing smelly *****

skooterblue2 · 05-09-2019 1:21pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Oh lord jebus, I'm out.....

As I said go look at any getting on a bus or train etc..... They nearly all now have the new type pass.

Yes of course some were using stolen ones over the years but some of these were just scum bags too.

How do you all think it's over a million now on free travel and rising also a huge number are eligible to be companion to pass holder.

As I said not all as some don't apply but what I do know is at least 80% if not more have them.

There is very little use you get with a stolen bus pass now. Because everything is electronic, you need to get it replaced quickly. The DSW cancel the former card when the current one is lost. You have to log on with a current bus pass each time you use the bus or the train or go through the gates at the train station.

skooterblue2 · 05-09-2019 1:24pm

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

You’re correct. They might not necessarily get a pass due to being a junkie scumbag but the majority are on d bleedn disibility

They have key workers, social workers, doctors, nurses all at their beckon call

Plenty of advice to get their bleedn entitlements

I say **** them . ****ing smelly *****

WEll if you like that then you are going to love this .....
Have you seen about the privately run junkie hotels where they can shoot up under the supervision of nurses and doctors?
So we are going to take Doctors and Nurses from an underfunded and understaffed public health from people with real problems ...... for illegal drug users?
The mind boggles

mr_fegelien · 05-09-2019 4:23pm

corner of hells wrote: »

No way , you work with addicts.
So do I , in drugs services and homeless services at all different levels.
Addicts do not get free travel , if they are on a disability allowance, they'll qualify.

Can I ask how unsafe is it for homeless/addicts to be sleeping rough? I heard actually staying on the streets even when its raining is safer than many shelters with robberies, violence, drugs etc...

Graces7 · 05-09-2019 4:31pm

skooterblue2 wrote: »

WEll if you like that then you are going to love this .....
Have you seen about the privately run junkie hotels where they can shoot up under the supervision of nurses and doctors?
So we are going to take Doctors and Nurses from an underfunded and understaffed public health from people with real problems ...... for illegal drug users?
The mind boggles

This is how many advanced and civilised countries treat addicts.

Maybe look up Canada which also has a health service in trouble; cannot post the link .. an entire excellent facility.

It is also the way to cut down on treatment from overdoses etc and also prevent deaths .
And of course support the addicts seeking to get off drugs. And most of the drs and nurses involved there give spare time willingly so it does not affect staffing issues.

One point; if anyone opines that drug addicts should not get good medical care then logically that should extend to smokers, alcoholics who do damage to themselves by their excesses

Signing off on this.

mr_fegelien · 05-09-2019 4:52pm

I heard that in the U.K. or U.S., it's easier for junkies to get methadone for withdrawal than it is for cancer patients to get prescribed any opioids.

Don't know how much of that is true or not.

Graces7 · 05-09-2019 5:05pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I heard that in the U.K. or U.S., it's easier for junkies to get methadone for withdrawal than it is for cancer patients to get prescribed any opioids.

Don't know how much of that is true or not.

total non sequitur

mr_fegelien · 05-09-2019 5:18pm

Graces7 wrote: »

total non sequitur

Answer the question please. Is it true or not?

dxhound2005 · 05-09-2019 8:08pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I heard that in the U.K. or U.S., it's easier for junkies to get methadone for withdrawal than it is for cancer patients to get prescribed any opioids.

Don't know how much of that is true or not.

What is your source and how recent is it? Likely to vary in the UK, given the NHS "postcode lottery". The US does not have a NHS, go again big variations likely.

skooterblue2 · 05-09-2019 8:48pm

Graces7 wrote: »

This is how many advanced and civilised countries treat addicts.

Maybe look up Canada which also has a health service in trouble; cannot post the link .. an entire excellent facility.

It is also the way to cut down on treatment from overdoses etc and also prevent deaths .
And of course support the addicts seeking to get off drugs. And most of the drs and nurses involved there give spare time willingly so it does not affect staffing issues.

One point; if anyone opines that drug addicts should not get good medical care then logically that should extend to smokers, alcoholics who do damage to themselves by their excesses

Signing off on this.

Heroin/opium is not drug but it is a weapon of mass destruction. Yes it does have it medicinal uses. But I view it as a weapon as the British used it to destroy China and I am sure other super powers have used it to destroy other civilisations in the past.

You wouldn't get me working with Drug addicts for love nor money. I have done 6 months in the SIMON community which is soul destroying stuff. There is no recovery from Heroin. The kinder thing to do is to cut them away.

I don't subscribe to the idea that it is a personal decision and the only person they are hurting is themselves. They hurt their former friends and family. They are a blight on their community. Who wants to live next to someone who defecates in their neighbours doorway? Who disposes of needles in an improper way and leaves syringes in the park.

No medical professional would give their time willingly to that unless they were paid big money and the money you would earn seeing that crap wouldnt pay you for the stuff you would have to do to destress after seeing that abuse.

You dont throw good money after bad.

cgcsb · 05-09-2019 8:55pm

The junction of merchants quay and winetavern st? Yes I know it well. They were all in the middle of the road having a mass brawl on merchants quay near the junction for about 5 mins there on Tuesday morning. Merchants Quay bus stop had to be moved down the road at tax payer expense to keep the normals safe while commuting to work. Irish people will tolerate this though because we're a passive race

Why do junkies always walk out in front of traffic?

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