Beginners Log

spacecoyote · 26-10-2018 12:22pm

Handicap Secretary will assign your handicap to you based on your 3 cards that you enter. If you're scoring 100-110, I'd say that, at a push, you might get 24-25, but I doubt much more than that. There are other guys on here who've been involved with committees, so would likely be better placed to explain the process (I see prawnsambo has covered plenty above).

I've heard mixed. Some clubs that will not give anyone a starting handicap above 18.

Others that look at your best score on each hole in the 3 cards & create a kind of best 18 hole round for you to base it on.

When I first joined a club, if I remember correctly, I handed in 3 cards in the range 95-105 and was given 22 as a start handicap.

@prawnsambo - is it reduction to a double, or a net double based on an 18 handicap?

prawnsambo · 26-10-2018 12:39pm

spacecoyote wrote: »

@prawnsambo - is it reduction to a double, or a net double based on an 18 handicap?

It's reduction to a double. No handicap is applied first. Up until the new handicap categories were introduced this year, there was also an upper limit of 28, so you couldn't actually get a handicap of double bogey on each hole. Now a couple of new members at my club have started with handicaps of 30 and 35 so that's now possible. I don't know if new hanidcaps are being given in excess of 36 as I haven't read the new CONGU handbook fully yet, so can't comment. Perhaps others amy have some direct experience.

prawnsambo · 26-10-2018 1:12pm

Here's the bit from the latest CONGU manual:

1. Adjust any score of more than double par at any hole to a score of double par (i.e. 6 on a Par 3, 8 on a Par 4 and 10 on a Par 5).

2. Add the nine-hole scores (if applicable) to make up 18-hole equivalents in chronological order. If a club has more than one Designated Nine-Hole Courses each pair of nine-hole scores must be returned over courses having the same Designated Nine-Hole SSSs for the gender of player concerned.

3. Calculate the Adjusted Gross Differential (‘AGD‘) scores from the three 18 hole (or 18-hole equivalent) scores; these scores being calculated by comparing the returns relative to the SSS’s of the courses/tees used:

AGD = Adjusted Gross Score – SSS for the course/tees used

Determine the Lowest Adjusted Gross Differential (‘LAGD‘) from the three Adjusted Gross Differentials

4. Reduce the resulting LAGD according to the formula; Initial Handicap = (LAGD + (LAGD*0.13))/ 1.237 truncated to provide a whole
number.

For example, a player with a Lowest Adjusted Gross Differential of 31 is allotted an initial handicap of 28 (which is recorded as an
Exact Handicap of 28.0) as shown below:

Initial Handicap = (31 + (31*0.13))/1.237 = (31 + 4.03)/1.237 = (35.03/1.237) = 28.31 truncated to 28 and recorded as an Exact Handicap of 28.0.

So the bit in bold is new. Instead of reducing to double-bogey, it's now double par. It looks very complicated, but basically it's saying that scores on each of your three cards (or 6 nine hole cards converted to three 18 hole cards) are adjusted to double par and then totalled and the SSS for the tees used is subtracted from them.

So if you scored 110 off tees with an SSS of 72 and you had a 9 on a par 4 and a 7 on a par 3, that score would be reduced to 108 and gives a nett 36.

If that's your lowest score of the three cards, then it's used in the formula above to calculate the actual initial handicap which would be 32.88 or 33 when rounded.

BraveDonut · 26-10-2018 1:32pm

Halloween Jack wrote: »

Have never played bray but when I’m coming toward bray on the southern cross I can see a part of the course that looks crazy steep, sloping from the head back toward the road, there is a bunker on that very steep bit so I guess there is one very steep hole at least?

'Most' of the holes play across the hills. Generally the hills are green to tee. The 10th is very uphill, so consequently, the 14th (the one you see from the road) plays very downhill - actually one of the best holes on the course.
The 4th hole (downhill) has imminent plans to be changed to remove this as one of the hills.
Almost all members use electric trolleys

Skyfloater · 03-11-2018 11:33am

So OP, are you any closer to deciding where you going to join?

Halloween Jack · 03-11-2018 11:45am

Skyfloater wrote: »

So OP, are you any closer to deciding where you going to join?

Off out to try Druids Heath Now, then delgany on Thursday, will have played most of the local tracks then and will report back;)

Halloween Jack · 04-11-2018 11:44am

So Druids Heath yesterday, the weather and my game were appalling. Hadn’t swung a club in nearly 2 weeks so we went to the onsite range before teeing off. Fairly instantly knew it was going to be a long day as I began wickedly slicing short irons....

Needless to say the slicing continues on the course, this reached its apex on the par 3 third, which seemed almost designed to torment me personally, given there’s water on the left so tailor made for a lecture with a slice.

I also putted fairly poorly, chipping was a little better, but hard to remain focused or care too much when the rest of the game is in tatters.

I did strike a couple of decent tee shots and a couple of very nice fairway woods
Off the deck, also had one nice wedge over water on the back 9 but pretty slim pickings overall.

In terms of the course I have to say I really liked it, I thought the first 3 holes were nice and the stretch at 12/13/14 was really nice too. I would say that it definitely felt a step up in difficulty from most of the other courses I had played, flat putts were a rarity, there were a lot of testy breaking six footers etc (invariably missed). I also felt that most times the tee shots could be intimidating, felt rare that you’d be on a tee and be able to see a nice flat spot to land the ball, also the heavy rough is never too far away. I also felt that the course played longer than the yardages, maybe due to a lot of elevated greens/uphill approaches. I had to take a fairway wood a couple of times on a par 4 for my second, on holes that did t read that long on the card and on the odd time I had a semi decent contact on an iron approach I seemed to be a club or half club short.

In saying that, my brother was playing fairly well and scored similarly to what he would on an easier course, though he probably left a good few strokes on the greens, so if you were used to the greens and strike the ball well you’d srillscore well I guess.

In terms of condition, it was wet yesterday and there had been some rain overnight but it was fairly light stuff so I was surprised to see some water on the one or two of the greens and in some of the sand traps. I also thought the greens weren’t in tip top condition, they seemed kind of patchy and kind of blackened in places.

Overall though I was impressed with the facility, the shop staff were excellent, the changing room facilities looked good and I enjoyed the course. The range there wasn’t bad, there are very reasonable member rates and you can play off the grass.

I did enquire about the timesheet and was told it fills very quickly, ie: almost instantly for sat and Sunday morn, though it seems like it’s easy to get out in th afternoon.

So all in all I would strongly consider joining as I enjoyed the course, it’s convenient and has all the facilities I would look for in a club, I know a friend of a friend who was a member there but left, so I will try be d his ear about the place soon.

Next Thursday is delgany, if I have time I’ll hit the range before then to try desperately to find a functioning swing again;)

youcancallmeal · 06-11-2018 11:39am

I'm in very similar situation to you OP. 35 and just joined a club after years of very occasional play. Handed in my 3 cards for handicap a few days ago. I scored 100 in my last round. I figured if I was playing of handicap of 18 I would of had 14, 26 and 23 points for my 3 rounds so I'm guessing I'll get about a 25 handicap? The club is Stackstown, it's tough but fair I think. Don't think I scored better than a double bogey on the 3 hardest holes so far.

I'm mostly worried about my clubs at the moment. They are a literally a mixed bag. Some 15+ year old wilson irons 3-SW that I can mostly hit fairly well I think, a macgregor driver I bought a few years that was supposed to help my sometimes huge slices of the tee, a big square putter that I feel is too heavy so very hard to control distance, a cheap slazenger hybrid I got recently from sportsdirect that I haven't figured out how to hit properly yet. I reckon I might get fitted for irons in the new year, I'm about 6'4" and a few people have said I should be playing with properly fitted shafts(length and flex) in particular.

Halloween Jack · 06-11-2018 3:07pm

youcancallmeal wrote: »

I'm in very similar situation to you OP. 35 and just joined a club after years of very occasional play. Handed in my 3 cards for handicap a few days ago. I scored 100 in my last round. I figured if I was playing of handicap of 18 I would of had 14, 26 and 23 points for my 3 rounds so I'm guessing I'll get about a 25 handicap? The club is Stackstown, it's tough but fair I think. Don't think I scored better than a double bogey on the 3 hardest holes so far.

I'm mostly worried about my clubs at the moment. They are a literally a mixed bag. Some 15+ year old wilson irons 3-SW that I can mostly hit fairly well I think, a macgregor driver I bought a few years that was supposed to help my sometimes huge slices of the tee, a big square putter that I feel is too heavy so very hard to control distance, a cheap slazenger hybrid I got recently from sportsdirect that I haven't figured out how to hit properly yet. I reckon I might get fitted for irons in the new year, I'm about 6'4" and a few people have said I should be playing with properly fitted shafts(length and flex) in particular.

Howdy, some useful/interesting parallels, thanks for the info re: handicap, please update us when you get it officially;)

I had a look at the stackstown website and was considering it for a little while as it’s not a million miles away from me and my bro/playing partner lives nearby. In the end though I reasoned I’d have a better chance of getting the most out of a club if it was close as possible to home.

I’m playing with a mixed bag of stuff myself, bought some second hand Cleveland irons that are nice clubs but are aimed at mid handicappers or better, so I may have been better off with slightly more forgiving clubs. I’m also 6’5’ so maybe I’d benefit from a fitting when finances allow. I’m currently without a driver as the head flew off my old one and shot off down the range, could never hit the damn thing anyway;) I did try the couple of lefty second hand drivers down at the local range and found them fun to blast away with;)

srfc d16 · 06-11-2018 3:36pm

youcancallmeal wrote: »

I'm in very similar situation to you OP. 35 and just joined a club after years of very occasional play. Handed in my 3 cards for handicap a few days ago. I scored 100 in my last round. I figured if I was playing of handicap of 18 I would of had 14, 26 and 23 points for my 3 rounds so I'm guessing I'll get about a 25 handicap? The club is Stackstown, it's tough but fair I think. Don't think I scored better than a double bogey on the 3 hardest holes so far.

I joined Stackstown this year and scored similar to yourself on my initial 3 cards. I was given a hcap of 24 so I'd say your'e pretty close with the 25.

youcancallmeal · 06-11-2018 5:07pm

srfc d16 wrote: »

I joined Stackstown this year and scored similar to yourself on my initial 3 cards. I was given a hcap of 24 so I'd say your'e pretty close with the 25.

Yep, came through today and I have 25 handicap. Happy with that, lots of room to improve and can manage my game more effectively now. I found when playing for my handicap I was taking on ridiculous shots and hitting drivers off certain tee boxes where an iron would've been better.

Halloween Jack · 08-11-2018 5:23pm

So, a friend very kindly took me and my old man around delgany today.

I very much enjoyed it, it’s a nice mature course, we got lucky with the weather and there was some nice autumnal colours up there.

It’s a very short course, par 69, with only 2 par 5’s. One thing I found is that there isn’t much danger either left or right off the tees on most holes, but if you don’t land the ball in the right spot you can forget about getting on in two.

The greens are quite small but full of undulation and pretty tough to read, even though they were slow enough given the damp etc.

Clubhouse and facilities were nice and it was lively enough down there for a Thursday.

Was fairly impressed overall with the place and am strongly considering joining, would also consider joining Druids Heath as I very much liked the course, in any case I’ll have to make decision quickly as delgany are introducing a joining fee, so I’d need to complete the application process soon.

In terms of my game I had an odd day, would be good one hole and poor the next. Was generally fairly poor with my tee shots but hit a couple of crackers, was much better with my irons today than Saturday, though I hit a few fat from downhill lies (beginning to hate a downhill lie). I pitched pretty well all day, nearly holed a 50 yarder on 17, but conditions helped greatly as greens were slow and damp. Again was a weird day with the putter, holed a couple of nice putts, a 12 footer on the first for a par, but also had some bad, bad 3 putts, a couple where I totally misread greens and one where I made an absolute wretched stroke and the ball came off the heel.

So I’ve completed my recce of the local courses, enjoyed them all for various different reasons, have to decide now with my playing partners what to do;)

spacecoyote · 08-11-2018 11:57pm

Halloween Jack wrote: »

In terms of my game I had an odd day, would be good one hole and poor the next. Was generally fairly poor with my tee shots but hit a couple of crackers, was much better with my irons today than Saturday, though I hit a few fat from downhill lies (beginning to hate a downhill lie). I pitched pretty well all day, nearly holed a 50 yarder on 17, but conditions helped greatly as greens were slow and damp. Again was a weird day with the putter, holed a couple of nice putts, a 12 footer on the first for a par, but also had some bad, bad 3 putts, a couple where I totally misread greens and one where I made an absolute wretched stroke and the ball came off the heel.

Re non flat lies, a simple tip, lean with the slope. The aim is to create as close to a flat lie as possible for yourself.

Halloween Jack · 09-11-2018 10:13am

spacecoyote wrote: »

Re non flat lies, a simple tip, lean with the slope. The aim is to create as close to a flat lie as possible for yourself.

That makes sense actually, much obliged;)

spacecoyote · 09-11-2018 10:27am

Halloween Jack wrote: »

That makes sense actually, much obliged;)

nice little video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtfhGODeZV4

Halloween Jack · 09-11-2018 4:52pm

spacecoyote wrote: »

nice little video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtfhGODeZV4

Cheers! Seems like a decent channel that!

Glebee · 27-11-2018 12:37pm

I have 3 cards to submit, 109, 104 and 101:o. What sort of HC would I expect?

fred funk }{ · 27-11-2018 3:07pm

I'd say around 25. Were your dropped shots all spread out fairly evenly or were there some good holes and some really bad holes?

I ask because the HC secretary will revert the high scores on single holes to double bogies.

Glebee · 27-11-2018 3:22pm

fred funk }{ wrote: »

I'd say around 25. Were your dropped shots all spread out fairly evenly or were there some good holes and some really bad holes?

I ask because the HC secretary will revert the high scores on single holes to double bogies.

All fairy even, maybe about 8 very bad holes over the three cards (8 shots).
maybe 5 pars max. No birdies.

youcancallmeal · 27-11-2018 9:22pm

Glebee wrote: »

I have 3 cards to submit, 109, 104 and 101:o. What sort of HC would I expect?

Sounds pretty similar to the 3 cards I recently submitted so I'd say around 25 like me. I've played 2 14 holes comps since then. Scored 14 and 26 points. Delighted with the 26 points, nearly scoring to my handicap. I've made a point of targeting the holes where I've 2 extra shots. Like usually if a hole isn't going well I tend to give up and not make an effort expecting to scratch it. Now I'm not letting bad shots get to me and focus on scoring even it's just a point

Glebee · 06-12-2018 12:11am

Had some lessons this evening. My game is gone to pot... Trying to do what trainer was telling me to hit down on ball made it look like I had never played golf before..:(

Upgraded my driver last week and had it out this evening for the first time. It was like i never drove a golf ball before

Seve OB · 06-12-2018 1:16am

Glebee wrote: »

All fairy even, maybe about 8 very bad holes over the three cards (8 shots).
maybe 5 pars max. No birdies.

5 pars in 3 rounds? Or 5 pars in one round?
If in 3 rounds! I’d say you might get 18 probably no more.
If in a single round, maybe 13-14.

Though it’s hard to say for a few reasons. We don’t know what your scores were. Really would need to look at the cards to make a proper judgement.
Then from what I’ve seen on here some clubs are very harsh and give stupid low handicaps that players have no chance of playing anywhere near and other clubs seem to give stupid high handicaps.

One thing is for sure, with 5 pars wherever they came you should be gettin* nowhere near 25

spacecoyote · 06-12-2018 8:00am

Glebee wrote: »

Had some lessons this evening. My game is gone to pot... Trying to do what trainer was telling me to hit down on ball made it look like I had never played golf before..:(

Upgraded my driver last week and had it out this evening for the first time. It was like i never drove a golf ball before

One of the hardest things to do for beginners is to persist with the technique from lessons as it can feel like a big step backwards. If you can stick with it in the longer term you should see the benefit.

One thing though. From your description of the lesson, it sounds like he was working on your iron swing, so if you're using the same swing on driver too it might explain the poor driving results. The conventional wisdom would be downward strike on irons, upwards strike on driver (or at least not as sharply down as irons)

youcancallmeal · 06-12-2018 8:55am

Glebee wrote: »

Had some lessons this evening. My game is gone to pot... Trying to do what trainer was telling me to hit down on ball made it look like I had never played golf before..:(

Upgraded my driver last week and had it out this evening for the first time. It was like i never drove a golf ball before

Where did you get lessons? Lads I play with regularly who are off 12/13 keep telling me I need to get lessons. I've very inconsistent last few rounds. Scored 20 points on one 9 hole winter competition then 8 the next time, don't know what I was doing differently!?

golfguy1 · 06-12-2018 9:59am

spacecoyote wrote: »

One thing though. From your description of the lesson, it sounds like he was working on your iron swing, so if you're using the same swing on driver too it might explain the poor driving results. The conventional wisdom would be downward strike on irons, upwards strike on driver (or at least not as sharply down as irons)

Are you saying I should have different swings for woods and irons?
Golf is hard enough without trying to learn 2 different swings.
Lenght of club and ball position surely are a major factor in how much u hit down on the ball.
I definitely only have 1 swing type

FixdePitchmark · 06-12-2018 10:02am

golfguy1 wrote: »

Are you saying I should have different swings for woods and irons?
Golf is hard enough without trying to learn 2 different swings.
Lenght of club and ball position surely are a major factor in how much u hit down on the ball.
I definitely only have 1 swing type

Yes you need too different types of swings.

Irons are fairly steep action

Driver / woods , longer and flat along the ground

golfguy1 · 06-12-2018 10:11am

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Yes you need too different types of swings.

Irons are fairly steep action

Driver / woods , longer and flat along the ground

Surely the lenght of club determines how steep the swing is.
Golf is difficult for beginners to learn never mind been told they now have to learn 2 different golf swings.
We all have 1 golf swing(You included) but due to lenght of shaft, a driver swing will have a flatter angle of attack to a pitching wedge.
Please stop telling beginners they need different swings for woods & irons

Glebee · 06-12-2018 11:12am

I can't get my head around this downward hit with irons, I keep trying to just pick the ball off the surface.

Stacksey · 06-12-2018 11:24am

Glebee wrote: »

I can't get my head around this downward hit with irons, I keep trying to just pick the ball off the surface.

Weight onto your front foot in the downswing and ball centered in your stance will mean a downward strike on the ball

Amaru976 · 06-12-2018 11:42am

Halloween Jack wrote: »

Howdy, i have popped in here asking a few questions lately about various topics, thanks to all that replied.

I thought I might borrow a concept from the Athletics forum whereby people log their training etc on an ongoing basis and chart their progress, and seeing as I’m a beginner, my hope is that if this goes well it might be a resource of sorts for anybody who finds themselves in a similar position over the next while. Alternatively it dies a death and fades into the obscure nether regions of the forum, either are fine:)

So, a bit of background, I’m 36, played a small bit of golf as a teenager around Kildare, was never a member anywherebut played with pals intbe summer who were members of Naas and craddickstown and occaisionally I played a round with my dad in other spots in the area. I would say I never displayed any natural talent whatsoever, but enjoyed getting out etc.

I then discovered various other extra curricular activities and completely left the game behind, save for a brief spell around 2005 when I bought a cheap set of clubs and hacked around stepaside for a few months.

At the start of this year, myself, my brother and my old man played a round of par 3 by chance one afternoon, and despite being hideously inept all enjoyed it. We continued playing par 3 on occaisional weekends, basically as an excuse to spend a bit of time together. I found it a bit of a nuisance initially as I had (and still have) a number of other commitments. But slowly (inevitably?) the occasional rounds of par 3 became more regular and I found myself thinking more and more about the game between rounds. In the spring I invested in clubs, shoes, attire etc, and have been playing full rounds weekly, normally interspersed with visits to the range. It’s gotten to the stage where I’m pretty much hooked:)

In terms of my recent play, I have played Stepaside and Charlesland multiple times recently and visited Wicklow once.

The rounds have been to varying degrees, bloodbaths, have shot 118 in Wicklow, normally do around 110 at Charlesland and a bit lower than that at stepaside. Best there is 101 a few weeks ago.

Yesterday evening I played 9 at Charlesland and went round in 45, by some distance my best 9 hole score, despite not hitting many good shots, didn’t lose any balls though and had no absolute disaster holes.

In terms of where the game is, it’s really too inconsistent at this stage to draw any conclusions, I spent a number of weeks being unable to do anything other than duff my tee shots, but hitting my irons pretty pure, shortly after that it was reversed and I was managing to hit decent fairway woods off the tee but proper duffing all my iron shots.

The only constant Thus far regarding the swing is that generally I slice with a longer club in my hands and pull with a mid/short iron (I’m told these are related).

Regarding short game I nearly always end up making 35-40 putts, I generally hole very few of any length and have problems getting a good lag from anything properly far away, furthermore the putting gets markedly worse the more pressure is on it, have missed many putts from 4-12 ft for par or, less often birdie. The only birdie I made since I started playing this year was the result of a tee shot to 18 inches or so, which nevertheless while putting made the hole seem about 10 feet away and around an inch in diameter

So, given we are coming in to the off season I intend to use this thread to chart my progress in practice and scoring etc and of course to grub around for any advice/tips etc I can from you guys on here:)

The initial stuff on my agenda are to find a club to join that suits (many thanks for replies on Druids Heath thread), obtain a handicap and set about getting it down a bit. I would also like to take a couple of lessons to make sure I’m not ingraining some hideous flaw into my swing and that I can practice away.

As stated I’d appreciate any tips, comments, thoughts and wisdom,

Much obliged;)

Very similar position to yourself, took up golf late last summer, played 3 or 4 rounds then left it alone. Decided to invest in a cheap set early this year to start me off, proper hooked now!! I now find myself in a position where my next purchases are to be a decent driver, decent putter, GPS etc. Have a less-than-perfect set of MacGregor irons to tide me over for the time being.

Joined a club earlier this year and got a h'cap of 28 from my 3 cards. Since then I've played plenty of society golf (the odd win under my belt too) as well as a handful of comps in the club and plenty of non-comp rounds. Best total is 96 thus far, delighted to have broken the 100... Yet to get myself lessons but still enjoying my golf, steadily improving, but horribly inconsistent at the same time - shooting rounds of anything between 20-40pts, with one 41-pointer on a day where nothing went wrong for me...

Played a small bit thru the winter but this time of year it's difficult to get out as much with the reduced daylight and other commitments etc. Already looking forward to next spring/summer time, hoping to make a significant dent in the h'cap.

In terms of lessons, I've yet to invest, but I see someone has posted a vid from the MeAndMyGolf lads. I found them earlier in the year and have actually found a lot of their tutorials very helpful on the course - particularly the pointers on chipping on - never even dawned on me to think outside the box and use anything other than a PW, but now I'm actually getting quite close most of the time when using a longer iron to chip on with lots of green to play with (probably not worded very well but hopefully understood).

spacecoyote · 06-12-2018 4:47pm

golfguy1 wrote: »

Surely the lenght of club determines how steep the swing is.
Golf is difficult for beginners to learn never mind been told they now have to learn 2 different golf swings.
We all have 1 golf swing(You included) but due to lenght of shaft, a driver swing will have a flatter angle of attack to a pitching wedge.
Please stop telling beginners they need different swings for woods & irons

I think you're being a bit too literal in the interpretation of the language myself or Fixed have used.

Fundamentally someones swing might not be drastically different, but there are absolutely differences in set up, as well as how you swing the club with Iron vs Driver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4D04439ZYE

The above is a reasonably good explanation on it.

I know myself, if I do my "iron" swing with the driver & get too steep, the ball pops up in the air, about as high as I'd hit a lob wedge and travels about as far too

golfguy1 · 06-12-2018 6:09pm

spacecoyote wrote: »

I think you're being a bit too literal in the interpretation of the language myself or Fixed have used.

Fundamentally someones swing might not be drastically different, but there are absolutely differences in set up, as well as how you swing the club with Iron vs Driver
I know myself, if I do my "iron" swing with the driver & get too steep, the ball pops up in the air, about as high as I'd hit a lob wedge and travels about as far too

My question is do you have an 'iron swing' and a woods swing??
Or do you have changes in set up which effect the steepness of your swing.

I have 1 swing for all clubs. Nothing changes except my stance width

FixdePitchmark · 06-12-2018 8:37pm

golfguy1 wrote: »

spacecoyote wrote: »

I think you're being a bit too literal in the interpretation of the language myself or Fixed have used.

Fundamentally someones swing might not be drastically different, but there are absolutely differences in set up, as well as how you swing the club with Iron vs Driver
I know myself, if I do my "iron" swing with the driver & get too steep, the ball pops up in the air, about as high as I'd hit a lob wedge and travels about as far too

My question is do you have an 'iron swing' and a woods swing??
Or do you have changes in set up which effect the steepness of your swing.

I have 1 swing for all clubs. Nothing changes except my stance width

Yes completely ,

Youve seen a video from a top pro .

My weight completely shifts to right side and my angle of attack is totally different adding dynamic loft .

I accept some people have very similar swings .

But set up and swing do change for I'd suggest a majority of golfers .

If I swung a driver like I swing an iron , the head would come off a club.

Please don't post that there are not two swing types . Weight transfer and angle if attack are a fundamental aspect of a golf swing and ignore this with a driver and best of luck with your game .

golfguy1 · 06-12-2018 11:03pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Yes completely ,

Youve seen a video from a top pro .

My weight completely shifts to right side and my angle of attack is totally different adding dynamic loft .

I accept some people have very similar swings .

But set up and swing do change for I'd suggest a majority of golfers .

If I swung a driver like I swing an iron , the head would come off a club.

Please don't post that there are not two swing types . Weight transfer and angle if attack are a fundamental aspect of a golf swing and ignore this with a driver and best of luck with your game .

What club do you change from iron to wood swing?
Is your 9 iron swing different to a 5 iron swing?
Hybrid swing to fairway wood same or different swing?

Montgolfier · 07-12-2018 11:50am

Halloween Jack wrote: »

Cheers! Seems like a decent channel that!

I'm not saying this guy is better but it's quite a natural swing. I find him good.
https://youtu.be/qlC6tEb9_38

Simo67 · 29-12-2018 3:19pm

golfguy1 wrote: »

What club do you change from iron to wood swing?
Is your 9 iron swing different to a 5 iron swing?
Hybrid swing to fairway wood same or different swing?

The Driver swing is different from the irons, mainly due to the lack of loft in a Driver. In simple terms the idea with the driver is to try and hit the ball as high as possible, in order to achieve this you need to catch the ball on the upswing launching the ball in the air. You will often see videos of the set up of the driver where the right shoulder is dropped slightly below the left to promote the upswing. Turning the hips to clear the way for the upper body as you release the power through the shoulders. On the irons you are hitting down on the back of the ball the loft in the irons creating the trajectory, with the divot coming after the ball. Hold the release of the wrists, the common mistake is to try and hit under the ball with the irons to hit them high, which just kills the distance. The hybrids and fairway woods have enough loft for launch and you don't need to be hitting down on the ball like the irons, with the longer shaft lenght and slightly forward ball position of these clubs, it promotes are more sweeping strike.

Glebee · 07-01-2019 4:50pm

Played Portumna over the weekend. Ended up with 103.

Despite playing a good bit of golf over the Christmas my Irons have gone to pot... Hitting decent with my driver but could not hit my irons for nuts, topping alot of my iron shots and not getting down on the ball at all....:mad:

youcancallmeal · 07-01-2019 5:50pm

I'm playing a lot since getting my 25 handicap in November. I've been making changes to my grip and swing and pretty happy with my progress. I'm starting to score consistently between 16 and 20 points in 9 hole winter league rounds. Probably around the 90 stroke mark if I was playing a full 18. My short game is killing me at the moment so I've been hitting the practice area before every round working on my chipping. I've come to the realisation I need to put my 60degree wedge away for now and stick with my sand wedge until I can at least hit that properly.

Here's a recent hole where I had a great drive and just needed a simple chip onto the green for possible birdie or at least a par. Ended up with a treble bogey due to 3 bad chips followed by a 3 putt :eek:

spacecoyote · 07-01-2019 9:48pm

youcancallmeal wrote: »

I'm playing a lot since getting my 25 handicap in November. I've been making changes to my grip and swing and pretty happy with my progress. I'm starting to score consistently between 16 and 20 points in 9 hole winter league rounds. Probably around the 90 stroke mark if I was playing a full 18. My short game is killing me at the moment so I've been hitting the practice area before every round working on my chipping. I've come to the realisation I need to put my 60degree wedge away for now and stick with my sand wedge until I can at least hit that properly.

Here's a recent hole where I had a great drive and just needed a simple chip onto the green for possible birdie or at least a par. Ended up with a treble bogey due to 3 bad chips followed by a 3 putt :eek:

That's a smart move. Realistically you should only take out the 60 if you have no other option at all. Other than that it's too low a percentage club to use.

Seve always said that you should be using the club that gets the ball rolling on the green as quickly as possible

benny79 · 08-01-2019 12:48pm

Phil Mickelson has put up great tips on chipping on his instagram page if you are on that! really helped me.

newindublin · 08-01-2019 2:40pm

benny79 wrote: »

Phil Mickelson has but up great tips on chipping on his instagram page if you are on that! really helped me.

Phil Video on Chipping, it's the ONLY way to chip (according to Phil)

I have been practicing this method, it took a while for me to get it, but now I agree with Phil. If you keep watching the video he gets into all kinds of other approach shots.

Glebee · 08-01-2019 2:49pm

newindublin wrote: »

Phil Video on Chipping, it's the ONLY way to chip (according to Phil)

I have been practicing this method, it took a while for me to get it, but now I agree with Phil. If you keep watching the video he gets into all kinds of other approach shots.

He makes it look oh so easy...:o:o

hardybuck · 22-01-2019 12:33pm

Probably from this week I will go from a lad who has played a total of two rounds of golf in his lifetime to a golf club member.

Family members have basically arranged it all for me, in terms of the membership, lending me a set of unused clubs etc., but I'm both looking forward to it and bricking it at the same time!

I'm someone who has played a lot of different sports at a good level up to my late teens/early 20s, but in my 30s now and a bit idle of late.

I'm planning on giving the golf pro up in the club a call in terms of asking for advice on how to get started, but I'm definitely hoping to get lessons and then hoping to get up to the driving range at least once a week.

I'm basically starting from zero which has it's negatives, but at the same time I'm hoping that if I get the good habits now I might be on a better footing than trying to correct bad habits.

Glebee · 23-01-2019 2:56pm

Got my 3 cards in for handicap, dont actually care what I get its the fact I got my finger out and got them submitted....:D Thats one of my golf goals for the year and its still January..

Glebee · 07-02-2019 6:27pm

Glebee wrote: »

Got my 3 cards in for handicap, dont actually care what I get its the fact I got my finger out and got them submitted....:D Thats one of my golf goals for the year and its still January..

Got awarded HC of 25.

:D

Got out for a quick 9 earlier . Pared 5 of the 9, unreal. Never ever has that happened before. Id be doing very well to get 2 pars in 9 holes...

Golfhead65 · 07-02-2019 7:02pm

Glebee wrote: »

Got awarded HC of 25. :D

Got out for a quick 9 earlier . Pared 5 of the 9, unreal. Never ever has that happened before. Id be doing very well to get 2 pars in 9 holes...

Beware of the bandit ðŸ˜‚

Golfhead65 · 07-02-2019 7:03pm

Seriously,well done you've got the bug

hardybuck · 27-02-2019 3:15pm

Due to some unforseen delays, I haven't swung a club as a new member yet, but looking to address that ASAP in March.

A couple of things I'd be grateful for pointers on:

1. Tips on getting a set of irons. I note a few brands seem to have starter packs - are these a decent starting place or a bit gimmicky? Would I be as well grabbing something used off Done Deal and hacking away with them for a few months?

2. Could anyone recommend a good place for lessons in the south, or perhaps west, Dublin areas?

Thanks in advance.

Remind me · 27-02-2019 3:54pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Due to some unforseen delays, I haven't swung a club as a new member yet, but looking to address that ASAP in March.

A couple of things I'd be grateful for pointers on:

1. Tips on getting a set of irons. I note a few brands seem to have starter packs - are these a decent starting place or a bit gimmicky? Would I be as well grabbing something used off Done Deal and hacking away with them for a few months?

2. Could anyone recommend a good place for lessons in the south, or perhaps west, Dublin areas?

Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't recommend a starter set, go to McGuirks and get a couple of options you like the look of and hit them in the shop (Blanch gives you the option) and go with them. Once you start playing regularly you will want rid of any starter set and for the sake of a couple of hundred Euro there would be a very noticeable difference in a starter set to say a forgiving set of mizuno or ping irons.

hardybuck · 01-03-2019 1:01pm

Remind me wrote: »

I wouldn't recommend a starter set, go to McGuirks and get a couple of options you like the look of and hit them in the shop (Blanch gives you the option) and go with them. Once you start playing regularly you will want rid of any starter set and for the sake of a couple of hundred Euro there would be a very noticeable difference in a starter set to say a forgiving set of mizuno or ping irons.

I appreciate that feedback - thanks.

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