Trump's tax info is out

listermint · 28-09-2020 11:27am

OMM 0000 wrote: »

No, you're here like a broken record every time there is a thread about something which isn't far left.

You probably think Trump is a white supremacist or working with the Russians, don't you?

Far left ? Who is far left? lol, just shows you how you skim the details of interactions. Not prepared to be informed i guess. Thats ok some people dont want to put the work in. - like trump i suppose

zom · 28-09-2020 11:29am

irishblessing wrote: »

I have paid more than this guy in taxes in the last 15 years. Let's see how this plays out with their voters.

This is pure trolling and you should know that. How much you earn??

28-09-2020 11:30am

It will probably be forgotten about like all the rest of it after Biden's brain leaks out of his ear tomorrow evening..

The democrats really shot their load too early going for impeachment so soon..

Dempo1 · 28-09-2020 11:32am

I'm disgusted whilst being reminded of the red carpet treatment this odious scum€@g got on his arrival to Ireland after buying, and at a substantial discount, the hotel in clare, which incidentally has not once made a profit since his involvement (and you can be sure he's milked anything going during the pandemic crisis and before)

Putting the unsurprising news of his taxes, he actually paid more to a porn star in settlements than he has paid taxes for nearly 15 years. Just mind boggling. Will this latest revelation change his obsessed fans minds? I doubt it, they are just dim wits itching for a fight and I fear its going to get very violent in November.

Quin_Dub · 28-09-2020 11:33am

Deleted User wrote: »

It will probably be forgotten about like all the rest of it after Biden's brain leaks out of his ear tomorrow evening..

The democrats really shot their load too early going for impeachment so soon..

Do you honestly think that there is ANYTHING that could come out about Trump that would make the Senate Republicans find him guilty?

The Nal · 28-09-2020 11:35am

Trump has already admitted to this. Remember the debate in 2016 against HRC? She claimed he may not be paying a lot of tax and he said thats because hes "smart".

Henry Ford III · 28-09-2020 11:35am

I can understand how he pays no tax on income earned by various companies on account of historical losses being carried forward. Our banks are doing the same.

The trouble is if he's losing more than he's earning someone ultimately has to fund it.

He has previous form for getting debt written down/off - are his bankers and creditors effectively funding everything?

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 11:36am

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I can understand how he pays no tax on income earned by various companies on account of historical losses being carried forward. Our banks are doing the same.

The trouble is if he's losing more than he's earning someone ultimately has to fund it.

He has previous form for getting debt written down/off - are his bankers and creditors effectively funding everything?

keep a close eye on the global financial system!

zom · 28-09-2020 11:36am

Funny see Irish raging about tax evasion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_as_a_tax_haven

Henry Ford III · 28-09-2020 11:42am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

keep a close eye on the global financial system!

Please explain a little more.

Quin_Dub · 28-09-2020 11:42am

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I can understand how he pays no tax on income earned by various companies on account of historical losses being carried forward. Our banks are doing the same.

The trouble is if he's losing more than he's earning someone ultimately has to fund it.

He has previous form for getting debt written down/off - are his bankers and creditors effectively funding everything?

Exactly - It's the ongoing and systemic nature of it.

The only thing that he appears to actually make a profit on is his "Brand" and the money from The Apprentice and related stuff.

His actual "business deals" are all losing money hand over fist, year in year out.

I quoted the comment from the media over the week-end in another thread.

"Mr Trump is more successful playing a Business Mogul than is is being a Business Mogul".

On some levels it's an amazing job that he has done , spinning the story that he's actually a capable businessman and monetising that story.

This is why he has fought so hard to hide his tax returns. - The only thing he makes money off is effectively the merchandising off the brand "Donald Trump , Billionaire Business mogul" , now that his tax returns show that his is absolutely nothing of the sort , his sole income stream is going to dry up rapidly and all that debt that is about to come due is going to sink him for good.

The Nal · 28-09-2020 11:43am

zom wrote: »

Funny see Irish raging about tax evasion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_as_a_tax_haven

Its not tax evasion. Thats illegal. Its tax avoidance. Which is legal.

Truthvader · 28-09-2020 11:43am

This is a stupid non story distraction IMO. So Trump paid as little tax as possible unlike the rest of us who pay...... Oh yeah as little tax as possible but actually either make more than Trump or have less clever advisors.

Trump is a glad handling spoofer and liar but he is not the problem. There is a lack of integrity at the heart of politics which means his own party will not dump him unless he looks like losing. Because winning is the only thing that mattets and Trump understands this more than anyone.

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 11:44am

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Please explain a little more.

the global financial system is currently experiencing a similar set of issues experienced pre 07/08, watch this space!

Brian? · 28-09-2020 11:45am

blinding wrote: »

Donald Trump seems to have the Very Best Tax Accountants. The Man is a Genius.

This thread is class. We have Trump supporters saying it's fake news and other Trump supporters celebrating because it's true.

The Nal · 28-09-2020 11:45am

Flashback: Donald Trump says he pays “as little as possible” in taxes

Yet people seem surprised.

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 11:46am

The Nal wrote: »

Flashback: Donald Trump says he pays “as little as possible” in taxes

Yet people seem surprised.

...and was happy not to reveal the evidence

Truthvader · 28-09-2020 11:50am

Dempo1 wrote: »

I'm disgusted whilst being reminded of the red carpet treatment this odious scum€@g got on his arrival to Ireland after buying, and at a substantial discount, the hotel in clare, which incidentally has not once made a profit since his involvement (and you can be sure he's milked anything going during the pandemic crisis and before)

Putting the unsurprising news of his taxes, he actually paid more to a porn star in settlements than he has paid taxes for nearly 15 years. Just mind boggling. Will this latest revelation change his obsessed fans minds? I doubt it, they are just dim wits itching for a fight and I fear its going to get very violent in November.

Looks like he got a better f*cking from the porn star than from Revenue to be fair

gmisk · 28-09-2020 11:51am

Dempo1 wrote: »

I'm disgusted whilst being reminded of the red carpet treatment this odious scum€@g got on his arrival to Ireland after buying, and at a substantial discount, the hotel in clare, which incidentally has not once made a profit since his involvement (and you can be sure he's milked anything going during the pandemic crisis and before)

Putting the unsurprising news of his taxes, he actually paid more to a porn star in settlements than he has paid taxes for nearly 15 years. Just mind boggling. Will this latest revelation change his obsessed fans minds? I doubt it, they are just dim wits itching for a fight and I fear its going to get very violent in November.

Fake news!

Doonbeg is hugely profitable for trump..
Checks records

It made...er....2900 euro in 2018.....
After losing hundreds of thousands every year previously.....lol

listermint · 28-09-2020 11:52am

zom wrote: »

Funny see Irish raging about tax evasion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_as_a_tax_haven

Funny forwarding wiki articles about Ireland when the 2 largest locations for tax evasion in the world counting for well over half of the worlds evasion is..... Shocker, USA and our very own neighours the UK. :rolleyes:

ChikiChiki · 28-09-2020 11:52am

Truthvader wrote: »

This is a stupid non story distraction IMO. So Trump paid as little tax as possible unlike the rest of us who pay...... Oh yeah as little tax as possible but actually either make more than Trump or have less clever advisors.

Trump is a glad handling spoofer and liar but he is not the problem. There is a lack of integrity at the heart of politics which means his own party will not dump him unless he looks like losing. Because winning is the only thing that mattets and Trump understands this more than anyone.

I agree.

The real standout is how much of a useless charlatan he is in the world of business and how he has gotten away with it for so long.

Dude should be broke and living rough under a bridge somewhere.

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 11:54am

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I agree.

The real standout is how much of a useless charlatan he is in the world of business and how he has gotten away with it for so long.

Dude should be broke and living rough under a bridge somewhere.

those kind of things only occur to people that do not have access to wealth

Eric Cartman · 28-09-2020 11:56am

zom wrote: »

Funny see Irish raging about tax evasion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_as_a_tax_haven

Ireland is only a tax haven for some very large companies, the actual Irish residents get shafted in every direction. We are not a low tax country.

Fair play to Donny, if its all legal then well done on creative accounting.

Henry Ford III · 28-09-2020 11:57am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

the global financial system is currently experiencing a similar set of issues experienced pre 07/08, watch this space!

I can't see any similarity, nor any relevance to Trump paying no income tax.

Truthvader · 28-09-2020 11:59am

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I agree.

The real standout is how much of a useless charlatan he is in the world of business and how he has gotten away with it for so long.

Dude should be broke and living rough under a bridge somewhere.

Its actually evidence of how inept the entire banking system is. They will hound some shopkeeper strggling with a mortgage but horse out money to the Trumps , Seanie Fitzes and Sean Dunnes. The truth is a global financial crash makes no difference to the people running the banks because they have thier money made and out before the crash they cause happens

Eric Cartman · 28-09-2020 11:59am

gmisk wrote: »

Fake news!

Doonbeg is hugely profitable for trump..
Checks records

It made...er....2900 euro in 2018.....
After losing hundreds of thousands every year previously.....lol

Irish company makes a million quid, suddenly has to pay licensing royalties for the name to a company based in a country where licesnsing royalties aren't taxes, writes a cheque for 999,000 euro to said company , no tax liability here, no tax liability for the other company , win-win for the owner.

its really basic business....
almost any chain fast food restaurant with corporate stores, clothing brands etc.. are all doing the exact same thing.

28-09-2020 12:02pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Do you honestly think that there is ANYTHING that could come out about Trump that would make the Senate Republicans find him guilty?

Yeah, there totally could have been if the democrats had any bit of credibility and if they hadn't been so partisan.. the republicans don't like him either..

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 12:05pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I can't see any similarity, nor any relevance to Trump paying no income tax.

theres currently a significant fall in the demand for new credit, and an increasing likelihood of defaults and non performing loans, this occurred pre and during the last crash, tax avoidance of plutocratic elements in society are also playing a significant part in current global outcomes

gmisk · 28-09-2020 12:17pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, there totally could have been if the democrats had any bit of credibility and if they hadn't been so partisan.. the republicans don't like him either..

Ah come on.

There is only so many times you can blame the democrats for the really disasterous failings of the Republican party.
The fact so few of the Republican party have come out against him is on them.
If Trump does lose, what direction does that party go in now?
A lot of people are tainted by the fact they did nothing or actively backed trump and excused away his nonsense.

lawrencesummers · 28-09-2020 12:43pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I agree.

The real standout is how much of a useless charlatan he is in the world of business and how he has gotten away with it for so long.

Dude should be broke and living rough under a bridge somewhere.

Exactly, hate the game not the player.

Unfortunately for Trump he decided to make himself the face of the Economic recovery,. Trump put the success of the economy down to himself and his abilities and was happy to take credit for it while it was going well even if it wasn’t the case.

Now he is in the position where he has become the Face of the financial, health, crime and economic systems in America and they are having massive problems.

He chooses to have Fauci on then back burner, he chooses to send in military to civil unrest, he chooses to be the face of the system And make a lot of noise about it instead of not.

So he is trying to avoid the blame from whence he used to take credit and it’s not washing.

steddyeddy · 28-09-2020 1:01pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Shock horror. The New York Slimes have a anonymous sources hit piece on Trump mere weeks from the Presidential election again.

Who would have thunk it. Trump lawyer:

The liberal media are at the usual "Bombshell!!" / "Explosive"nonsense again today but I'm pretty sure we've heard all that somewhere before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt4cUNNfWtw

Trump's lawyer voiced exactly what's wrong with Trump and his supporters with this quote:

"Most of the facts are inaccurate".

If they're inaccurate then they wouldn't be facts. The Trump movement is of a unique mindset where facts, truths and evidence aren't facts, truth or evidence if they disagree with their feelings.

Cody montana · 28-09-2020 1:17pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But what about whataboutery. Exaggerate much?

What multiple countries did he invade?
Bet he won’t answer.

Also, why is Obama being brought up in a thread about trumps taxes?

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-09-2020 1:18pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Trump's lawyer voiced exactly what's wrong with Trump and his supporters with this quote:

"Most of the facts are inaccurate".

If they're inaccurate then they wouldn't be facts. The Trump movement is of a unique mindset where facts, truths and evidence aren't facts, truth or evidence if they disagree with their feelings.

Hence they came up with the term "alternative facts"

28-09-2020 1:19pm

Cody montana wrote: »

What multiple countries did he invade?
Bet he won’t answer.

Also, why is Obama being brought up in a thread about trumps taxes?

Deny, deflect & distract. Can't have the shine coming off Donny, he's no longer made of teflon.

joseywhales · 28-09-2020 1:27pm

We knew he was bankrupt multiple times, we knew he was a failure in business from inheritance to bankruptcy, this is hardly news. His base isn't going to care of he eats a newborn on live tv.

randd1 · 28-09-2020 1:33pm

joseywhales wrote: »

We knew he was bankrupt multiple times, we knew he was a failure in business from inheritance to bankruptcy, this is hardly news. His base isn't going to care of he eats a newborn on live tv.

Yeah. They only care about children before they're born.

Although I reckon he could cut open a pregnant woman and eat a foetus live on television and they still would vote for him because he's not a Dem.

Gotta admire their sense of totally subservient loyalty to the man all the same.

R.F. · 28-09-2020 1:39pm

biko wrote: »

I need to hire his tax attorney.

This appears to be typical response from trump fans. The guy is bullet proof within his own fan base. He could literally take a dump on your door step and his fans will sugar coat it

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 1:42pm

R.F. wrote: »

This appears to be typical response from trump fans. The guy is bullet proof within his own fan base. He could literally take a dump on your door step and his fans will sugar coat it

id say he could murder them all, and they d still try to talk him up!

lawrencesummers · 28-09-2020 2:11pm

joseywhales wrote: »

We knew he was bankrupt multiple times, we knew he was a failure in business from inheritance to bankruptcy, this is hardly news. His base isn't going to care of he eats a newborn on live tv.

And a lot of the People who hate Trump the most are very good at ignoring the obvious And numerous flaws in his opponent.

It has all turned into Glasgow. Your either Green or Blue and when you choose your side it means you must detest everything about the other.

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 2:13pm

lawrencesummers wrote: »

And a lot of the People who hate Trump the most are very good at ignoring the obvious And numerous flaws in his opponent.

It has all turned into Glasgow. Your either Green or Blue and when you choose your side it means you must detest everything about the other.

biden is dreadful, he just happens to be less dreadful than himself!

lawrencesummers · 28-09-2020 2:21pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

biden is dreadful, he just happens to be less dreadful than himself!

It’s an awful pity that there isn’t a stronger candidate against him which would have removed or at least reduced the chances of Trump maintaining the middle ground.

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 2:22pm

lawrencesummers wrote: »

It’s an awful pity that there isn’t a stronger candidate against him which would have removed or at least reduced the chances of Trump maintaining the middle ground.

ah shur look, American politics is wrecked

Eric Cartman · 28-09-2020 2:41pm

lawrencesummers wrote: »

It’s an awful pity that there isn’t a stronger candidate against him which would have removed or at least reduced the chances of Trump maintaining the middle ground.

I think this is an understated point of view. The man is not a brilliant politician, by any means.

The democrats really have struggled to groom a decent candidate since Obamas term was coming to an end. On inauguration day 2012 somebody should have held a meeting and said 'we have 4 years to actually have somebody decent' and this may never have happened.

It seems like they're not even trying anymore.

flynnlives · 28-09-2020 3:02pm

Just how ****ty are his businesses if the Banks wanted personal Guarantees on $421m in loans?

This guy is a supposed Billionaire.

To you think Bezos, Musk and other real Billionaires are using their own wealth as collateral?
Or has any bank said, nahh Amazon or Tesla aint enough as collateral, we want your personal wealth too.

Id say Trumps personal fortune is worth less then $150m. There is zero chance he was ever a billionaire.

Id say there will be calls on those 421m if he loses because the feds and States will be lining up with indictments.

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 3:04pm

flynnlives wrote: »

Just how ****ty are his businesses if the Banks wanted personal Guarantees on $421m in loans?

This guy is a supposed Billionaire.

To you think Bezos, Musk and other real Billionaires are using their own wealth as collateral?
Or has any bank said, nahh Amazon or Tesla aint enough as collateral, we want your personal wealth too.

Id say Trumps personal fortune is worth less then $150m. There is zero chance he was ever a billionaire.

Id say there will be calls on those 421m if he loses because the feds and States will be lining up with indictments.

...and id say he hasnt stuck his own hands into his own pockets, ever!

Leroy42 · 28-09-2020 3:12pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I think this is an understated point of view. The man is not a brilliant politician, by any means.

The democrats really have struggled to groom a decent candidate since Obamas term was coming to an end. On inauguration day 2012 somebody should have held a meeting and said 'we have 4 years to actually have somebody decent' and this may never have happened.

It seems like they're not even trying anymore.

Both HC and now Biden are perfectly fine and reasonable candidates. They just aren't what you like. But in any normal sphere they would be very strong front runners, as in fact they both are/were.

There is no way that the Democrats could have foreseen that just a large portion of the electorate would actually not only accept being lied to but actually welcome it.

They prepared politicians with experience (which was a massive issue levelled at Obama) and a history of strong positions and service. That that was all to be thrown back against them as being 'part of the swamp' rather than having experience (which funnily Trump now seem to deem as a good thing)

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 3:14pm

Leroy42 wrote: »

Both HC and now Biden are perfectly fine and reasonable candidates. They just aren't what you like. But in any normal sphere they would be very strong front runners, as in fact they both are/were.

There is no way that the Democrats could have foreseen that just a large portion of the electorate would actually not only accept being lied to but actually welcome it.

They prepared politicians with experience (which was a massive issue levelled at Obama) and a history of strong positions and service. That that was all to be thrown back against them as being 'part of the swamp' rather than having experience (which funnily Trump now seem to deem as a good thing)

strongly disagree there, many American's simply dont connect with either, hence himself, and calling folks 'deplorables' really isnt all that intelligent!

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-09-2020 3:15pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

strongly disagree there, many American's simply dont connect with either, hence himself, and calling folks 'deplorables' really isnt all that intelligent!

And yet Clinton got more votes than Trump so she was more popular than him.

Wanderer78 · 28-09-2020 3:16pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And yet Clinton got more votes than Trump so she was more popular than him.

true, but the american system isnt exactly democratic, this hasnt changed either

Eric Cartman · 28-09-2020 3:17pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And yet Clinton got more votes than Trump so she was more popular than him.

but she didn't get the votes in the right places. She won checkers but the game was chess.

Trump's tax info is out

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