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Golf courses allowing visitors ?

  • 25-05-2020 10:09pm
    #1
    Kkerr
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭


    Hi all,
    I'm not a member anywhere as we usually just play different courses based on online deals.
    All the courses we know are applying the GUI guidance and not allowing visitors until 29th June.
    Are there any pay and play courses in greater Dublin area that are open to visitors now? Not trying to break rules, just wondering if are visitor only courses who are allowed to open.
    Dying for a game, especially in this weather!
    Thanks


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  • #2
    bigtimecharlie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭bigtimecharlie


    Right behind you here. Can't wait to get out but non member of a club has kept me in the garden putting for the open😬


  • #3
    Ollieboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    Most clubs won’t have any space at the weekend due to social distancing and pricing will be high due to massive demand, so my advice, join a club.


  • #4
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Guests of members from June 8th.


  • #5
    morrga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭morrga


    Some clubs are taking guest green fees. The obvious place to look are those maybe rural and or with low membership numbers. Not all clubs have heaving time sheets.


  • #6
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    morrga wrote: »
    Some clubs are taking guest green fees. The obvious place to look are those maybe rural and or with low membership numbers. Not all clubs have heaving time sheets.

    Which clubs? Is this not against the regulations?


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  • #7
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    morrga wrote: »
    Some clubs are taking guest green fees. The obvious place to look are those maybe rural and or with low membership numbers. Not all clubs have heaving time sheets.
    Are you sure? I know some clubs are doing membership offers and even one month memberships like New Forest.


  • #8
    Finlay Harp
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Finlay Harp


    Look for somewhere that has a golf course possibly attached to a hotel. Ballymascanlan near Dundalk and Slieve Russell are two I can think of.


  • #9
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    I believe Glen Mill is Open for vistors, non GUI as only par 3

    Probably a few others similar without GUI affiliation. The par 3/pitch and putt in finglas was open too I believe.

    Is there any non GUI gold course about? the only one I can think of in Ireland are Hogs Head ( no chance of a game there ) and Ballymascanlon near Dundalk.

    Roganstown wasn't adhering to regulations before the second restrictions, 2 courses there. Maybe pick up the phone and ask.

    We should do u a list


  • #10
    mike12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    brick tamland wrote: »
    I believe Glen Mill is Open for vistors, non GUI as only par 3

    Probably a few others similar without GUI affiliation. The par 3/pitch and putt in finglas was open too I believe.

    Is there any non GUI gold course about? the only one I can think of in Ireland are Hogs Head ( no chance of a game there ) and Ballymascanlon near Dundalk.

    Roganstown wasn't adhering to regulations before the second restrictions, 2 courses there. Maybe pick up the phone and ask.

    We should do u a list

    Roganstown are members only


  • #11
    Golfhead65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Golfhead65


    Finlay Harp wrote: »
    Look for somewhere that has a golf course possibly attached to a hotel. Ballymascanlan near Dundalk and Slieve Russell are two I can think of.

    Hearsay..can't come on here and name courses like that


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  • #12
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Golfhead65 wrote: »
    Hearsay..can't come on here and name courses like that
    Ballymascanlon seem to be taking green fees. From their website:
    The golf course at Ballymascanlon House Hotel will reopen on Monday 18th of May 2020.

    Monday to Thursday - 9 or 18 Holes - All Day - €25.00
    Friday/ Saturday / Sunday - 9 or 18 Holes - All Day - €35.00

    Edit: Slieve Russell don't allow visitor booking until June 8th.


  • #13
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Which clubs? Is this not against the regulations?

    Not against regulations, against GUI guidance. 5km is regulations but that s a different thing

    Look for courses without GUI affiliation.


  • #14
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Mod note

    Stay away from discussions on travel distance restrictions please


  • #15
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    i've heard of a club who are allowing members guests :(


  • #16
    Finlay Harp
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Finlay Harp


    Golfhead65 wrote: »
    Hearsay..can't come on here and name courses like that

    It’s not hearsay when I played Ballymascanlan last Tuesday and have played Slieve Russell as a non member last September


  • #17
    thewobbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭thewobbler


    In the interests of balance, the Ballymascanlon doesn’t have any members.


  • #18
    Deporhostia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Deporhostia


    Presumably when the next phase starts, and members can bring guests, those guests don’t have to be GUI affiliated? Correct me if I am wrong please


  • #19
    Golfhead65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Golfhead65


    Finlay Harp wrote: »
    It’s not hearsay when I played Ballymascanlan last Tuesday and have played Slieve Russell as a non member last September

    You could have played anywhere last September so what relevance does that have now ??


  • #20
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    morrga wrote: »
    Some clubs are taking guest green fees. The obvious place to look are those maybe rural and or with low membership numbers. Not all clubs have heaving time sheets.

    they should not be. while they can't be expected to police the 5km rule, to accept green fees would be a total disregard to the rule and they should be made pay the consequences.
    brick tamland wrote: »
    Not against regulations, against GUI guidance. 5km is regulations but that s a different thing

    Look for courses without GUI affiliation.

    no, it goes against the regulations laid out by the government and has nothing do do with GUI affiliation
    Q. Can I pay a green fee to play at my local course?
    A. The basis on which golf has been permitted, by Government, to restart from 18th May includes a provision that golf is for members only in phase 1. The inclusion of guests and/or visitors may have resulted in a later return for all golfers. Ireland is still in the serious stages of a public health emergency and golf must ensure it plays its part in limiting the spread of the virus, including limiting movement (including cross-border) and making contact tracing easier for the authorities. In Phase 2, members will be permitted to bring guests, provided their club permits them to do so, whilst Phase 3 will see the return of visitors.


  • #21
    Danny dyers double
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Danny dyers double


    Stepaside par 3 is open to public. Obviously ring before and book a slot with them


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  • #22
    londonred
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭londonred


    Malahide Castle Par 3 is open need to book a few days in advance.


  • #23
    Finlay Harp
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Finlay Harp


    Golfhead65 wrote: »
    You could have played anywhere last September so what relevance does that have now ??

    You’re a pedantic prick.

    Mod Note:No need for that


  • #24
    morrga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭morrga


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Which clubs? Is this not against the regulations?

    Clubs need to survive.


  • #25
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    morrga wrote: »
    Clubs need to survive.

    so do plenty of other businesses. but i don't see them opening their doors when they shouldn't be


  • #26
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Seve OB wrote: »
    so do plenty of other businesses. but i don't see them opening their doors when they shouldn't be
    I kow of a good few businesses that adopted ingenious ways of staying open whilst being closed.


  • #27
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    morrga wrote: »
    Clubs need to survive.

    Yeah, they should probably start fencing stuff too, as a top up.


  • #28
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I kow of a good few businesses that adopted ingenious ways of staying open whilst being closed.

    Well open and operating might be slightly different but they have been clever and stayed within the rules and kudos to them.
    For a golf club to allow Visitors play because they “need to survive” is clearly against the rules.

    Let them come up with ingenious ways to operate and fair play. Not really sure how it is possible though but it’s only a couple of weeks..........


  • #29
    mike12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    Hear there are some courses charging a small joining fee and then you play the full green fee every time you play.
    Way of getting around no green fees for the first 2 phases.


  • #30
    Whiplash85
    Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Whiplash85


    Fermoy golf club charge €800 a year to join and are now charging €5 for each time you book a game on the BRS. Are there any other clubs succumbing to those levels of greed.


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  • #31
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    Fermoy golf club charge €800 a year to join and are now charging €5 for each time you book a game on the BRS. Are there any other clubs succumbing to those levels of greed.
    You need to be sure it's greed and not necessity.


  • #32
    blue note
    Registered Users Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭blue note


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    Fermoy golf club charge €800 a year to join and are now charging €5 for each time you book a game on the BRS. Are there any other clubs succumbing to those levels of greed.

    I think clubs should charge a fiver per person for booking now and refund it if they show. They're not set up for that admin but I guarantee you it would make some difference to the timesheet.


  • #33
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    You need to be sure it's greed and not necessity.

    Hold on, necessity or not, you pay your subs and you know what the terms are. They can’t just start charging you extra. Now if they were the terms when you sign up, that’s different.
    I wouldn’t be happy with that carry on


  • #34
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Seve OB wrote: »
    Hold on, necessity or not, you pay your subs and you know what the terms are. They can’t just start charging you extra. Now if they were the terms when you sign up, that’s different.
    I wouldn’t be happy with that carry on
    Neither would I. But there's an awful lot of detail missing, so trotting out 'greed' as a motive requires substantiation.


  • #35
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    You need to be sure it's greed and not necessity.

    What???

    Membership is membership - you sign up knowing the terms of it.

    You don’t sign up for a gym and then be told 6 months into the year that for entry you need to pay x amount.

    If they start doing this stuff with charging per round people should be entitled to their money back if they don’t agree to it.


  • #36
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Neither would I. But there's an awful lot of detail missing, so trotting out 'greed' as a motive requires substantiation.

    But it is greed. I can think of about 20 things they could do to raise money that don’t include adding fees per round.


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  • #37
    ShivasIrons
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    Fermoy golf club charge €800 a year to join and are now charging €5 for each time you book a game on the BRS. Are there any other clubs succumbing to those levels of greed.


    Interesting that you could get a green fee on golf now for €10 for Fermoy last year, and they are now charging members €5 to play per round, sounds like a club that doesn't know how to value their membership or how to price a green fee.


  • #38
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Looks like they’re not taking 100% of the fee as they dished out 15x €25 vouchers last week.

    — —

    €25 BRS daily timesheet winners for last week: B Howard, S Feehan, K O'Regan, E O'Sullivan, T Egan, D Horan, M Wren, C Coughlan, M Condon, B Arnold, C McCarthy, A O'Grady, K Condon, D Galvin, A Twomey. Thanks for your support.


  • #39
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Don't see an issue with charging members a small fee to play casual golf once the club are in need of the cash and not just a money grab.


  • #40
    Golfgraffix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    I know if plenty of clubs taking member donations at the clubhouse. €2 seems to be the norm


  • #41
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Looks like they’re not taking 100% of the fee as they dished out 15x €25 vouchers last week.

    — —

    €25 BRS daily timesheet winners for last week: B Howard, S Feehan, K O'Regan, E O'Sullivan, T Egan, D Horan, M Wren, C Coughlan, M Condon, B Arnold, C McCarthy, A O'Grady, K Condon, D Galvin, A Twomey. Thanks for your support.
    Like I said. A bit more detail needed. Seems like they made a competition or draw from it to keep members signing on properly.


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  • #42
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Like I said. A bit more detail needed. Seems like they made a competition or draw from it to keep members signing on properly.

    Cool, good man yourself.

    But they’re still taking extra money and people have no say in it.

    It’s scummy


  • #43
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Cool, good man yourself.

    But they’re still taking extra money and people have no say in it.

    It’s scummy
    How do you know they had no say in it? It's a members club.

    People like to get outraged for no good reason. I get that alright.


  • #44
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    All members were notified of these measures on May 11th. Its a temporary measure and general feedback was encouraged before reopening.


  • #45
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Class MayDresser wrote: »
    All members were notified of these measures on May 11th. Its a temporary measure and general feedback was encouraged before reopening.

    That’s because people are too afraid to mouth about things like it even though it’s wrong.


  • #46
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    callaway92 wrote: »
    That’s because people are too afraid to mouth about things like it even though it’s wrong.
    Like mouthing off on an anonymous forum?


  • #47
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Like mouthing off on an anonymous forum?

    Not a bit like it and I’m not sure why you said that.

    Obv I can mouth here and they’re free to too - They just don’t want to upset others there.


  • #48
    Mushy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,491 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Yeah it isnt any different than a levy being suddenly asked of from members. Really like the course, is kept in great condition


  • #49
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Not a bit like it and I’m not sure why you said that.

    Obv I can mouth here and they’re free to too - They just don’t want to upset others there.
    Because that's exactly what you're doing. Like if you have a problem with this, phone Fermoy and let them have it. But bear in mind that you've got the wrong end of the stick on this twice already.


  • #50
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Because that's exactly what you're doing. Like if you have a problem with this, phone Fermoy and let them have it. But bear in mind that you've got the wrong end of the stick on this twice already.

    Sent them a message on Facebook earlier today. Let me know if you want screenshot or else please stop talking guff to me

    EDIT: the reason I’m mouthing btw is because it’s fair for people to vent their opinion. I don’t particularly care about what you/anyone thinks about what I say, whereas clearly people in situations like this wouldn't want to ruffle feathers in their home club etc.


  • #51
    Macker1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Macker1


    I have kept paying my membership for the year despite not playing (Can't wait till 8th June)
    There is already a working capital contribution being paid alongside the membership.
    Not a hope of me paying anything else unless I was seeing something really beneficial in it for me.


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