Tina Satchwell Mod note in op

gozunda · 12-01-2021 4:51pm

TheW1zard wrote: »

Shes gone off the actual list, thats a crimecall page.
hmmmmm
https://www.garda.ie/en/missing-persons/?pageNumber=1

No for some reason - Tina was never listed there. That came up previously in an earlier thread.

freshpopcorn · 12-01-2021 7:24pm

gozunda wrote: »

No for some reason - Tina was never listed there. That came up previously in an earlier thread.

I always found it strange that she was never put on the site.

gozunda · 12-01-2021 7:32pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I always found it strange that she was never put on the site.

I checked and there's an inactive / broken placeholder on the missing persons webpage for Tina which should direct to the garda.ie crimecall link as above.

The working link on the garda.ie crimecall page is in the same format as other missing persons listed.

Maybe IT never got around to fixing the link?

TheQuietBeatle · 12-01-2021 7:34pm

Glebee wrote: »

Christ that site makes grim reading..:( Massive amount of foreign nationals on it. Have they all just gone home??

I thought the same, came across this https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/majority-of-over-100-missing-children-of-either-asian-or-african-origin-26837164.html there are a few threads on Reddit too about it

JeffKenna · 12-01-2021 7:37pm

Wonder what Richard thinks of this body being found?

Recliner · 12-01-2021 7:51pm

Glebee wrote: »

Christ that site makes grim reading..:( Massive amount of foreign nationals on it. Have they all just gone home??

I've never seen that page before. Eerie looking at Annie McCarrick, JoJo Dollard and all the other women who went missing within a few years of each other. So many missing people.

Anyway, in one sense I would hope that this is Tina, for her family's sake. I don't know how people cope with not knowing.

Stihl waters · 12-01-2021 8:03pm

TheW1zard wrote: »

Shes gone off the actual list, thats a crimecall page.
hmmmmm
https://www.garda.ie/en/missing-persons/?pageNumber=1

The most of them must be suicide or missing unintentionally, sad reading nonetheless

TheQuietBeatle · 12-01-2021 8:36pm

On that missing list, Evelyn Murray is the only person that could fall into the bracket of missing in similar time frame as Tina and could match the description listed by Gardai. It's unlikely though.

12-01-2021 8:39pm

TheW1zard wrote: »

Shes gone off the actual list, thats a crimecall page.
hmmmmm
https://www.garda.ie/en/missing-persons/?pageNumber=1

The poor families of those missing people.
Crathers.

As an aside. There are a lot of missing Chinese people in there.

tara73 · 12-01-2021 11:25pm

Recliner wrote: »

I've never seen that page before. Eerie looking at Annie McCarrick, JoJo Dollard and all the other women who went missing within a few years of each other. So many missing people.

Anyway, in one sense I would hope that this is Tina, for her family's sake. I don't know how people cope with not knowing.

I think it doesn't matter, generally spoken, who it is. behind every missing person are almost always parents, sisters, brothers, wifes/ husbands, partners and so on alive who are suffering a nightmare every day with not knowing what happened to their beloved one. I can't really imagine what those people must go through every day.

Recliner · 13-01-2021 12:06am

tara73 wrote: »

I think it doesn't matter, generally spoken, who it is. behind every missing person are almost always parents, sisters, brothers, wifes/ husbands, partners and so on alive who are suffering a nightmare every day with not knowing what happened to their beloved one. I can't really imagine what those people must go through every day.

I just meant that as this is the Tina Satchwell thread, I hope it is her.

Obviously as long as the person is identified and some family gets closure, that's what matters.

Ann22 · 13-01-2021 12:37am

freshpopcorn wrote: »

No, I think she was last seen at the car boot sale. The day before.

Richard said she was telling people at it about how much she loved him. Very strange..imagine doing that... Unless she was really odd or intellectually challenged..I found it hard to swallow.

buttercups88 · 13-01-2021 12:43am

Jumping on thread but did anyone read that a large item of jewellery had been found with the remains and then elsewhere it was said to be a crucifix?
I just noticed in some of the photos of Tina she has a very large crucifix on.

fin12 · 13-01-2021 12:46am

Interesting how he’s so quiet this time..... when they were doing a search of Castlemartyr that time, his face was all over the papers.

freshpopcorn · 13-01-2021 12:47am

buttercups88 wrote: »

Jumping on thread but did anyone read that a large item of jewellery had been found with the remains and then elsewhere it was said to be a crucifix?
I just noticed in some of the photos of Tina she has a very large crucifix on.

I read that it was religious jewelry.

fin12 · 13-01-2021 12:53am

Here’s another one of his lovely interviews where he said Tina used to beat him up.

https://extra.ie/2018/03/14/news/irish-news/tina-satchwells-husband-spent-time-behind-bars-admits-violent-marraige

Gadgetman496 · 13-01-2021 1:09am

buttercups88 wrote: »

I just noticed in some of the photos of Tina she has a very large crucifix on.

Don't ever recall seeing a photo of her wearing a large crucifix.

Have seen pleanty of her wearing loud coloured chunky bead necklaces.

@buttercups88: Can you link to a photo of her wearing a very large crucifix?

freshpopcorn · 13-01-2021 1:11am

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Don't ever recall seeing a photo of her wearing a large crucifix.

Have seen pleanty of her wearing loud coloured chunky bead necklaces.

@buttercups88: Can you link to a photo of her wearing a very large crucifix?

It's a terrible photo but it looks like one.

Gadgetman496 · 13-01-2021 1:13am

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It's a terrible photo but it looks like one.

Cheers freshpopcorn, I had not seen that photo before. Interesting.

TheQuietBeatle · 13-01-2021 1:17am

Chains like that are fairly common though in Ireland

gozunda · 13-01-2021 2:03am

Rows Grower wrote: »

Don't think Richard ever said, all he remembers is she came downstairs, he made her some tea and toast and then he went to Dungarvan for some fish at Tina's request and when he got back Tina was missing.

Did a search and it seems that there was no info on what she was wearing on the day she disappeared as explained by her husband

He said he doesn’t know what Tina was wearing when she left the house last March because she had so many clothes and she was in a bathrobe when he said goodbye to her before he went shopping in nearby Dungarvan, Co Waterford.

That obviously explains why the gardai weren't able to include any detail on what Tina was wearing on the garda missing person notice on their website.

Larsso30 · 13-01-2021 9:33am

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

The poor families of those missing people.
Crathers.

As an aside. There are a lot of missing Chinese people in there.

That is frightening. Fair few there can be deduced to going into the water from where their car was found (speculation on my part I know)

The amount of non nationals though, jesus there is a lot missing.

TheValeyard · 13-01-2021 9:34am

Larsso30 wrote: »

That is frightening. Fair few there can be deduced to going into the water from where their car was found (speculation on my part I know)

The amount of non nationals though, jesus there is a lot missing.

Are they missing or moved jurisdictions?

silver2020 · 13-01-2021 9:58am

You'd think Tina Satchwell was a saint and that all the posters here knew her personally.

But the fact is no-one knew her. No-one here, no-one in Youghal, no-one anywhere.

She was a loner and introverted.

He was less so, but still very private.

Her "family" came out talking about her, but rarely saw her. She rarely visited them, they very rarely visited her. But yet here on boards, everyone seem to be best mates with her.

You'd be VERY surprised at how different people are away from the public life / social media. In an area I give some help to, you'd be even more surprised at how controlling some women can be and in many cases that exude a pleasantness in public, but are utterly evil behind closed doors. The same with men.

Too much of commentary on this is based on tabloid type thinking or TV soap opera storylines (Eastenders and Coronations street are NOT real!) coupled with bits of CSI (also not real) and sprinkled with a large dose of poppycock.

I'd agree with one poster - either he's the most cunning perpetrator of all (no he's not, he's a fairly simple guy that some people just don't like) or its a personal tragedy.

Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal.

If anyone here worked in the mental health area, even as a volunteer, you may have a different view of things and how women can be particularly badly affected especially by Bipolar disorder and if they don't get help and medication, it can fester badly.

The Inbetween is mine · 13-01-2021 10:04am

"The fact is no-one knew her"
Really..how do you know that?!

JeffKenna · 13-01-2021 10:06am

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

"The fact is no-one knew her"
Really..how do you know that?!

Speak to anyone from Youghal or Fermoy, most people didn't seem to know her.

Seth Brundle · 13-01-2021 10:06am

silver2020 wrote: »

Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal.

Usually with suicide you have a body, if I'm not mistaken!

The Inbetween is mine · 13-01-2021 10:10am

JeffKenna wrote: »

Speak to anyone from Youghal or Fermoy, most people didn't seem to know her.

Most? Ok.. that's not all

Larsso30 · 13-01-2021 10:19am

silver2020 wrote: »

You'd think Tina Satchwell was a saint and that all the posters here knew her personally.

But the fact is no-one knew her. No-one here, no-one in Youghal, no-one anywhere.

She was a loner and introverted.

He was less so, but still very private.

Her "family" came out talking about her, but rarely saw her. She rarely visited them, they very rarely visited her. But yet here on boards, everyone seem to be best mates with her.

You'd be VERY surprised at how different people are away from the public life / social media. In an area I give some help to, you'd be even more surprised at how controlling some women can be and in many cases that exude a pleasantness in public, but are utterly evil behind closed doors. The same with men.

Too much of commentary on this is based on tabloid type thinking or TV soap opera storylines (Eastenders and Coronations street are NOT real!) coupled with bits of CSI (also not real) and sprinkled with a large dose of poppycock.

I'd agree with one poster - either he's the most cunning perpetrator of all (no he's not, he's a fairly simple guy that some people just don't like) or its a personal tragedy.

Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal.

If anyone here worked in the mental health area, even as a volunteer, you may have a different view of things and how women can be particularly badly affected especially by Bipolar disorder and if they don't get help and medication, it can fester badly.

While not dismissing your points, the sighting of male and female going into Woods and only one coming out coupled with missing money and historically and statistically it's usually the partner lend credence to the theory she was taken /killed.

That said no one really knows as you say, I just don't think you can dismiss anything in this case, it seems to have more layers than other missing peoples cases. Get the impression the Garda have a very open mind on it too

Larsso30 · 13-01-2021 10:19am

TheValeyard wrote: »

Are they missing or moved jurisdictions?

Do wonder that myself, seems so many just makes more sense they left the country

silver2020 · 13-01-2021 10:30am

Larsso30 wrote: »

While not dismissing your points, the sighting of male and female going into Woods and only one coming out coupled with missing money and historically and statistically it's usually the partner lend credence to the theory she was taken /killed.

That said no one really knows as you say, I just don't think you can dismiss anything in this case, it seems to have more layers than other missing peoples cases. Get the impression the Garda have a very open mind on it too

Sighted by who?

Remember many people "see" things and then can't give actual details.

The Toscan Du Plantier case is a classic example

But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.

julyjane · 13-01-2021 10:35am

Ann22 wrote: »

Richard said she was telling people at it about how much she loved him. Very strange..imagine doing that... Unless she was really odd or intellectually challenged..I found it hard to swallow.

Or if she was trauma bonded. I got out of an abusive relationship many years ago and afterwards wondered why I had tried so hard when no matter how hard I tried my ex still treated me badly. Then I read about something called trauma bonding that happens to victims of abuse and saw exactly why.

I'm not saying that RS was an abusive husband, but in general if a victim behaves over lovingly towards an abuser it's because they're trauma bonded. He could have been a lovely husband and she could have been an abuser for all any of us know, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors.

Larsso30 · 13-01-2021 10:47am

silver2020 wrote: »

Sighted by who?

Remember many people "see" things and then can't give actual details.

The Toscan Du Plantier case is a classic example

But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.

I am not saying the sighting is correct, just that there was one. Like with all missing people cases, all sightings have to be considered as possible leads. Unless can be proven it wasn't her they have to keep it as possible.

gozunda · 13-01-2021 10:55am

silver2020 wrote: »

You'd think Tina Satchwell was a saint and that all the posters here knew her personally.But the fact is no-one knew her. No-one here, no-one in Youghal, no-one anywhere.She was a loner and introverted.
He was less so, but still very private.
Her "family" came out talking about her, but rarely saw her. She rarely visited them, they very rarely visited her. But yet here on boards, everyone seem to be best mates with her.
You'd be VERY surprised at how different people are away from the public life / social media. In an area I give some help to, you'd be even more surprised at how controlling some women can be and in many cases that exude a pleasantness in public, but are utterly evil behind closed doors. The same with men. Too much of commentary on this is based on tabloid type thinking or TV soap opera storylines (Eastenders and Coronations street are NOT real!) coupled with bits of CSI (also not real) and sprinkled with a large dose of poppycock.
I'd agree with one poster - either he's the most cunning perpetrator of all (no he's not, he's a fairly simple guy that some people just don't like) or its a personal tragedy.
Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal. If anyone here worked in the mental health area, even as a volunteer, you may have a different view of things and how women can be particularly badly affected especially by Bipolar disorder and if they don't get help and medication, it can fester badly.

Thats a very odd comment. Where have "all" the posters claimed anyone was a 'saint' on this thread or are 'best mates" with ?

Tbh much of what you say above seems to have been gleamed from tabloids type reporting / speculation and or projection.

The only thing we do know is what has reported by the gardai and direct interviews.

Most of this thread is based on the recent discovery of remains. So yeah I reckon wild speculation on medical conditions festering or otherwise really doesn't help tbh.

silver2020 · 13-01-2021 11:00am

gozunda wrote: »

Thats a very odd comment. Where have "all" the posters claimed anyone was a 'saint' on this thread or are 'best mates" with ?

Tbh much of what you say above seems to have been gleamed from tabloids type reporting / speculation and or projection.

The only thing we do know is what has reported by the gardai and direct interviews.

Most of this thread is based on the recent discovery of remains. So yeah I reckon wild speculation on medical conditions festering or otherwise really doesn't help tbh.

read the previous thread and you'll see that certain posters have painted a very rosy picture of her as if they knew her.

No-one knew her. Not her family, not neighbours. No-one.

eviltwin · 13-01-2021 11:02am

silver2020 wrote: »

read the previous thread and you'll see that certain posters have painted a very rosy picture of her as if they knew her.

No-one knew her. Not her family, not neighbours. No-one.

Did you? You seem very knowledgeable about a woman no one knew.

P.Walnuts · 13-01-2021 11:06am

silver2020 wrote: »

But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.

Really sounds like you're hoping to get a reaction from people to be honest.

13-01-2021 11:13am

silver2020 wrote: »

Sighted by who?

Remember many people "see" things and then can't give actual details.

The Toscan Du Plantier case is a classic example

But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.

Definitely have to consider all possibilities with this case. At least a body has been found now so hopefully they’ll be able to work out the cause of death.

gozunda · 13-01-2021 11:28am

JeffKenna wrote: »

Speak to anyone from Youghal or Fermoy, most people didn't seem to know her.

If I'm not mistaken the couple had only moved to Youghal the year previously and were in the process of doing up the house they bought. . So not that unusual for people in youghal to not have got to know Tina especially if they didn't have family there. Though I do seem to remember interviews with locals who certainly remember her and saw her out regularly walking with her dogs etc.

Beechwoodspark · 13-01-2021 11:38am

Ann22 wrote: »

Richard said she was telling people at it about how much she loved him. Very strange..imagine doing that... Unless she was really odd or intellectually challenged..I found it hard to swallow.

Why? - Maybe she just loved him and wanted to express that?

They seemed to have been an extremely private couple with very little involvement with ppl outside their relationship

the hedgeman · 13-01-2021 11:48am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Why? - Maybe she just loved him and wanted to express that?

They seemed to have been an extremely private couple with very little involvement with ppl outside their relationship

Maybe he wanted them to be a private couple as he seems introverted but he has said she was extroverted so that doesn't lend itself to be a extremely private couple

Beechwoodspark · 13-01-2021 11:50am

the hedgeman wrote: »

Maybe he wanted them to be a private couple as he seems introverted but he has said she was extroverted so that doesn't lend itself to be a extremely private couple

Where’s the proof she was extroverted? Very few ppl seem to have known her as far as I can see

the hedgeman · 13-01-2021 11:51am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Where’s the proof she was extroverted? Very few ppl seem to have known her as far as I can see

By Richard's.press interviews

Beechwoodspark · 13-01-2021 11:54am

the hedgeman wrote: »

By Richard's.press interviews

He’s said a lot of stuff. I’m just trying to be objective.

Both Tina and Richard appear to have been private and kept themselves to themselves and had very few outside contacts

Not sure if she worked anywhere outside the home?

Maybe I’m wrong and she had a large circle of friends and was a real extrovert involved in lots of circles

But the most I’ve heard about her is that ppl in her local town said they remember seeing her on the street walking the dog....

JeffKenna · 13-01-2021 12:05pm

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Most? Ok.. that's not all

How many people have you spoken to from the area knew her?

The Inbetween is mine · 13-01-2021 12:13pm

JeffKenna wrote: »

How many people have you spoken to from the area knew her?

Poster said "no-one knew her"

JeffKenna · 13-01-2021 12:14pm

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Poster said "no-one knew her"

So tell us who knew her?

The Inbetween is mine · 13-01-2021 12:15pm

JeffKenna wrote: »

So tell us who knew her?

That's not how it works I'm afraid..the person making the claims need s to back it up...and he hasn't...

JeffKenna · 13-01-2021 12:16pm

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

That's not how it works I'm afraid..the person making the claims need s to back it up...and he hasn't...

But you're saying people knew her, so tell us who did if the poster is wrong.

the hedgeman · 13-01-2021 12:29pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

He’s said a lot of stuff. I’m just trying to be objective.

Both Tina and Richard appear to have been private and kept themselves to themselves and had very few outside contacts
....

It's no wonder then that Richard would be the only person of interest in this case through the way they lived their lives...but circumstantial as she's his wife now gone without a trace.

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