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Seattle Seahawks Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    How do people reckon the o-line looks next year? Here's the pre-draftee depth chart as I see it:

    LT - Russell Okung - Alvin Bailey - Caylin Hauptmann
    Obviously if Okung stays fit, LT is shored up. But that's a big if.... Though I actually think Bailey looked promising in the snaps he saw before Okung came back. Certainly an improvement on McQuistan as a backup. But I think Bailey might take over the starting spot at LG, while Hauptmann is unknown.

    LG Alvin Bailey / James Carpenter - Lemuel Jeanpierre
    Carpenter is still to prove he is up to the task as a starter. Decent run blocker, but allows a lot of pressure up the middle. Bailey's pass protection, meanwhile, looks to be spot on. I think if he develops a bit more of a mean streak he could take over the starting LG spot this season. Jeanpierre can cover here aswell.

    C Max Unger - Lemuel Jeanpierre - Greg Van Roten
    Getting Jeanpierre to sign an extension pretty much shores up the centre. He looked more than decent in Unger's absence last season.

    RG J.R. Sweezy - Michael Bowie - Greg Van Roten
    Sweezy is still learning the position, but seems steady enough. Bowie can cover guard on both sides really, but with Breno's departure he will likely get the nod to start at RT.

    RT Michael Bowie - Caylin Hauptmann
    With Breno departing, I make this the shallowest spot on the line, and assuming Bowie gets the nod here, it also impacts the depth available at RG. Having said that, I feel Bowie is a good prospect at RT.

    Draft/UDFA additions:
    Justin Britt, OT
    Garrett Scott, OT
    Garry Gilliam, OT
    Bronson Irwin, G

    I think it's telling that of the 4 o-linemen acquired last week, three are tackles and all seem to be quite versatile in where they can play. I think the main issue was to add depth. All fit, I make the starting O-Line to eventually be a reasonably capable:

    Okung - Bailey - Unger - Sweezy - Bowie

    with Carpenter covering both guard spots (or vice versa if he ups his game to keep Bailey out), but not much depth beyond the unknown Hauptmann and Van Roten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Amount of f**ks given by the patrons of boards.ie regarding the offensive line for the Seahawks next season: 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    How do people reckon the o-line looks next year? Here's the pre-draftee depth chart as I see it:

    LT - Russell Okung - Alvin Bailey - Caylin Hauptmann
    Obviously if Okung stays fit, LT is shored up. But that's a big if.... Though I actually think Bailey looked promising in the snaps he saw before Okung came back. Certainly an improvement on McQuistan as a backup. But I think Bailey might take over the starting spot at LG, while Hauptmann is unknown.

    LG Alvin Bailey / James Carpenter - Lemuel Jeanpierre
    Carpenter is still to prove he is up to the task as a starter. Decent run blocker, but allows a lot of pressure up the middle. Bailey's pass protection, meanwhile, looks to be spot on. I think if he develops a bit more of a mean streak he could take over the starting LG spot this season. Jeanpierre can cover here aswell.

    C Max Unger - Lemuel Jeanpierre - Greg Van Roten
    Getting Jeanpierre to sign an extension pretty much shores up the centre. He looked more than decent in Unger's absence last season.

    RG J.R. Sweezy - Michael Bowie - Greg Van Roten
    Sweezy is still learning the position, but seems steady enough. Bowie can cover guard on both sides really, but with Breno's departure he will likely get the nod to start at RT.

    RT Michael Bowie - Caylin Hauptmann
    With Breno departing, I make this the shallowest spot on the line, and assuming Bowie gets the nod here, it also impacts the depth available at RG. Having said that, I feel Bowie is a good prospect at RT.

    Draft/UDFA additions:
    Justin Britt, OT
    Garrett Scott, OT
    Garry Gilliam, OT
    Bronson Irwin, G

    I think it's telling that of the 4 o-linemen acquired last week, three are tackles and all seem to be quite versatile in where they can play. I think the main issue was to add depth. All fit, I make the starting O-Line to eventually be a reasonably capable:

    Okung - Bailey - Unger - Sweezy - Bowie

    with Carpenter covering both guard spots (or vice versa if he ups his game to keep Bailey out), but not much depth beyond the unknown Hauptmann and Van Roten.


    Fancying Max Unger to have another outstanding year. He has been a rock for the last 2 seasons. Be nice to have an O Line player in the Pro Bowl 3 years in a row :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Amount of f**ks given by the patrons of boards.ie regarding the offensive line for the Seahawks next season: 0

    Apologies. I appreciate the time you put into your post, and it'll help me in the new season. I just didn't have an opinion worth adding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Apologies. I appreciate the time you put into your post, and it'll help me in the new season. I just didn't have an opinion worth adding.

    Haha, I was only taking the p**s. :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Hawks are my second team.. i even went to seattle to see them :pac:

    I do read this thread but generally other sites keep me up to date on hawks news

    Keep on truckin neil!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Hawks are my second team.. i even went to seattle to see them :pac:

    I do read this thread but generally other sites keep me up to date on hawks news

    Keep on truckin neil!

    You went to see them play the titans!! Hardly qualifies you as a fan


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    adrian522 wrote: »
    You went to see them play the titans!! Hardly qualifies you as a fan

    But i have a TJ Housmanzandeh jersey...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000353161/article/seahawks-waive-draft-pick-due-to-rare-heart-condition


    "The transaction comes one day after Scott signed his rookie contract. Curtis Crabtree of KJR-AM in Seattle reported that Scott received his full slotted signing bonus (believed to be between $90,000-$105,000) before being waived. His rights will revert back to the Seahawks if he clears waivers"

    I know it is only a drop in the ocean for an NFL franchise,but it's still a classy move by the Seahawks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    That is nice to see and the goodwill generated will far outway the monetary cost IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Must be heartbreaking for the lad, absolutely no pun intended.

    Though having said that, this may have saved his life. A football career loses its relevance when compared with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Sidney Rice retiring at 27. Persistent injuries cited as the contributing factor.

    Seeing as though he was cut, re-signed, then retired, would he have been better off retiring back at the end of the season when he was on higher money? Would injuries have been covered under an insurance deal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Not a bad way to go retire as a superbowl champion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Not a bad way to go retire as a superbowl champion.

    Lets just hope Skittles isn't thinking the same!

    Sidney was always a good WR, he's done some remarkable stuff with us and the Vikings.

    Without the major injuries he had he may have been considered Elite, but we'll never know.

    No doubt that Baldwin and Harvin will step it up this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    I see Marshawn Lynch is refusing to join up until he gets a better deal. Seems a bit greedy, given he's two years into a four year contract, or is this standard practice after a Superbowl win?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    I see Marshawn Lynch is refusing to join up until he gets a better deal. Seems a bit greedy, given he's two years into a four year contract, or is this standard practice after a Superbowl win?

    Standard practise for RB's really, need to strike while the iron is hot. The rumour seems to be that the Hawks have no interest in giving him a bigger contract after signing Sherman & Thomas to big deals and with a Russell Wilson in line to get paid next year.

    End of the day RB's are not worth big bucks anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    He's in the top 5 highest paid RBs in the league, and he was the 6th most productive RB on the ground last year, so he's right where he should be, pay wise.

    However I can see where he's coming from - this deal will run out smack when he hits 30, and he will likely find it very hard to get any manner of decent deal.

    I can honestly see him being traded or even cut tbh. Seahawks are happy enough to continue with Turbin and Michael, and cutting Lynch would clear $3m against this cap and $7m against next year's.

    Some team in need of an elite RB will happily offer him a four year deal to secure his services at least over the next two or so years, meaning it'd really be win win for everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Joemcn95


    Does anyone know what time ESPN are reporting from Seahawks camp tomorrow?

    Oops quick google and it airs at 1:30 p.m. ET


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Schefter reporting that Lynch will return to training camp. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2095629-marshawn-lynch-contract-latest-news-and-rumors-on-negotiations-with-seahawks?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national2

    No new deal but apparently some financial concessions to be added to his contract, whatever that means.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Presumably they won't fine him the 30k per day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Presumably they won't fine him the 30k per day?

    If they did I can't see him coming back again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    You could argue that the Seahawks gave him nothing, or you could argue that they gave him an extra $2m, depending on how you want to look at it...
    Specifically, the team turned $500,000 in per-game roster bonuses and $500,000 in incentives (for rushing for 1,500 yards or more) for this season into guaranteed money, increasing his base salary for the 2014 season from $5 million to $6 million. The Seahawks also took $500,000 he was guaranteed for 2015 and agreed to pay it to him now.

    Lynch also may not have to pay almost $500,000 in fines he accumulated during his holdout. More...

    He seems to be quids in to do this again next season, seeing as he has a chunk of money now that wasn't due to him until 2015. This will almost certainly be his last season with the Seahawks, I'd wager.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Yep definitely seems that way


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Pete Carroll makes the rules or will adapt to the rules? In any case, we are looking for another great Seattle Seahawks season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Anyone watch the game last night?

    Has to be said we probably have the strongest squad for QB's.

    Pryor could actually start with a number of teams, especially in the AFC.

    Was a very laid back affair, exciting to have football back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Cjs21 wrote: »
    Anyone watch the game last night?

    Has to be said we probably have the strongest squad for QB's.

    Pryor could actually start with a number of teams, especially in the AFC.

    Was a very laid back affair, exciting to have football back.

    Only saw highlights so can't really say too much. What about Pryor did you like?

    Most important thing I'll be looking out for in the OS is Michael. A lot of buzz that he can make the step up this season and with Lynch likely leaving at the end of the year it's make or break for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Only saw highlights so can't really say too much. What about Pryor did you like?

    Most important thing I'll be looking out for in the OS is Michael. A lot of buzz that he can make the step up this season and with Lynch likely leaving at the end of the year it's make or break for him.

    His rushing was superb, there was 1 or 2 shaky snaps but he recovered them well, one of them ended up being a 28 yard gain as far as I remember. Excited for this season ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Fair to say that Wilson is keeping some very decent statisitcal company going into his third professional season

    GS TD INT QB Rating Yds Comp Att Comp% Superbowls Pro-Bowls
    Manning 32 52 43 80.6 7874 657 1108 59.3 0 1
    Brady 14 18 12 86.1 2849 265 416 63.7 1 1
    Favre 13 18 15 82.8 3227 302 475 63.6 0 1
    Marino 27 68 23 104.5 7294 535 860 62.2 0 2

    Wilson 32 52 19 100.6 6475 509 800 63.6 1 2

    Be very interesting to see how things fair up at the end of the season when you can compare years 2 and 3 for all of the above, seeing as Brady and Favre weren't starters in their first season.

    But obviously I'll hate him regardless. Sap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    ANyone see the full game against the Chargers? O-Line is being singled out for praise in many quarters, Carpenter in particular. Michael fumbles again... :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Great opening day game for Seattle so far.

    29-10 over the packers with about 9 minutes left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    SEAHAWKS WIN! Start 2014 in win column defeating Packers 36-16.

    The city is going nuts right now. Packers are one of a few teams who are a serious threat this season so we're off to a great start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Call me crazy, but I think this team could go undefeated this season, including Playoffs. If they keep up their concentration it's a huge possibility


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Have it recorded and looking forward to watching it tonight. Early momentum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Have it recorded and looking forward to watching it tonight. Early momentum.

    You'll watch knowing the result?

    I try my best to avoid knowing the score of games I watch delayed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    You'll watch knowing the result?

    I try my best to avoid knowing the score of games I watch delayed.

    I'd already checked the result before I knew there were highlights on the next morning. But if I had known, I think I would have checked thr result anyway. I'd have to know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Wow, I really jinxed us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Great game lads.... See u in Phoenix in 2015!!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Well, that was disappointing, especially after the performance in the first game. The defence just seemed to lack some oomph, although I only saw the plays shown on Redzone. Hopefully things pick up for next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Go Hawks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Indeed. We're on Sky Sunday night. Looking forward to seeing them live for the first time this season (the other games were late; very very late)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Indeed. We're on Sky Sunday night. Looking forward to seeing them live for the first time this season (the other games were late; very very late)

    thats really the problem with west coast teams, hawks are my second team but watch their late games is impossible


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Well that was bloody awful


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    thats really the problem with west coast teams, hawks are my second team but watch their late games is impossible

    West coast teams don't have any more late games than east coast teams. The only difference is more 9pm games and less 6pm games.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Really? Always seems they are on later than the Titans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Well that was bloody awful


    It certainly made for difficult watching. We seemed to have no ideas on offence and poor Russell was hounded all over the field. If not for a couple of silly mistakes by the Cowboys it could have been over much sooner. Hopefully things pick up soon because the division is looking pretty tight.

    Fair play to Dallas, though. They looked good in all departments, except special teams.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Really? Always seems they are on later than the Titans

    I think teams can have a max of 5 prime time games and obviously if a team is doing well they will be selected for all 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    So Harvin's gone (he must have been REALLY disruptive), leaving Russell to do all the work himself!

    At least there were signs of a recovery tonight, unlike last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Well, maybe now we can say things have turned around, with the defence and running game (surprise, surprise) to the fore. Passing options appear even more limited than last year, and all the talk about Lynch leaving can't be a help, but hopefully the Falcons do us a favour tonight and things will be in our hands, despite a difficult few games coming up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Cjs21


    Looking at the last few games for all NFC West Teams it's anyones game, but you have to have the Hawks in prime position.

    Sundays game against the Eagles is going to be what decides it.

    Unlikely to get home advantage throughout the playoffs but it would be nice to beat the eagles and more than likely have a rest for the 1st week of the playoffs.

    Predicted this at the start of the season.

    Between Seahawks and Packers for NFC and Patriots will win the AFC.


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