FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1367059960224432130?s=19

Shock Horror

Where's everyone who was saying the other day I couldn't have known the figures

We didn't even receive 100,000 yet our Govt are promising 100,000 a week

Chaos

Thats dinengenous ,Astra are at fault there not the government
Have a little positivity

blanch152 wrote: »

There is a theory out there that because COVID reduced public services, homelessness went downwards. If that is true, there are real questions about the exaggeration of the homelessness problem over the last half-decade. However, it is more likely to be false, as government policies are beginning to have an effect.

You know it's true. We discussed it 5 times. I showed you proof, 5 times. Yet you believe in, as you say, unicorns and rainbows after ner a decade of worsening crises suddenly turning a corner during a global pandemic, despite the facts being shown to you, 5 times.
Yes there was a dip prior to covid but the numbers we've seen have been explained and shown to you every time you pull this tale from where ever...
I see you are some form of a Q-anon type Trumper with the 'fake news' of the crises everybody, literally every party and politician and social group agree exists. It was deemed a national emergency by the then FG government.
The thing that defies logic and the facts, as shown to you 5 times, is the belief that after nearly a decade of record breaking worsening crises, you think 'government policies are beginning to have an effect'
What were they doing while we broke records in these crises, bidding their time? :rolleyes:
Were you at the protest saturday?

Here's the last time I reminded you of the time before we had this chat and I showed you links.

Here's another one with citing you dismissing 'the charity industry', which you accepted the other week because the numbers suited you.

And another...

As I said...

James Brown wrote: »

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I can post this every few months you raise this like it wasn't debunked before. Now, this is where you disappear for a few days.

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

The Govt promised 100,000, they failed to deliver. I was aware when i posted it there was a delay but the Govt and supporters said 100,000 will be done.

Why didn't they come out and say oh we will be 20,000 short? This was known to them last week

Misleading the public

You'll be accused of expecting zero covid any time now

blanch152 wrote: »

We had government opponents cheer-leading the various court cases over the last few months. It turned out to be very damp squibs from that perspective, no harm in pointing that out.

Now I'm not on boards much , but I often read your claims and for the life of me can never recall these 'man with two pints' posts.
Maybe there was one or two I missed but can you post any quotes?

By the way, if the government was doing a competent job half these threads would gather dust. You'll note any time they are criticised there's an example or point.

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

I understand that but why when they knew last week they wouldn't receive the 100,000 did they not come out and tell the public?

Did they know?

In other news,interesting article in the Irish times from McDowell

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/michael-mcdowell-fianna-f%C3%A1il-risks-being-a-mudguard-in-waiting-for-sinn-f%C3%A9in-1.4499380

Basically saying it will be Taoiseach Mary lou and Tánaiste [insert FF leaders name here] after the next election and that vradakar will get his earnest wish to Relish being the leader of the opposition

Deleted User wrote: »

Some interesting charts here re vaccination. It seems that Ireland is in the top 10 of countries fully vaccinated. https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/01/covid-19-vaccinations-in-europe-which-countries-are-leading-the-way

Do you mean 24th for vaccine roll out?
10th in people got the two jabs. I mean if we'd only two doses and gave them to one person we might be number 1 :rolleyes:

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

We're 24th in the absolute number of vaccine distributed. This is to be expected for a smaller country. Germany have vaccinated more people than are in Ireland but have vaccinated less people per 100,000 than us.

Agreed. My point stands regarding us being tenth in full vaccinations.

Deleted User wrote: »

That was pre vaccination. Once vaccination ramps up, we’ll be back in business.

Once things move more quickly things will move more quickly. True :rolleyes:

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We were there had they not ignored the expert advice. No biggie any more, we know if we lockdown the numbers will go down.

Staying locked down in november into january ,the run up to and including xmas wouldnt have done it Francie,there would have been multiple upon multiple of house parties and uncontrolable house mixing with the new variant
Pubs were turning people away in droves up untill 3pm xmas Eve,despite dire warnings that day on the news
Huge numbers didnt care
You only have to look at Wales which got worse and worse and then only slow improvement despite a pre xmas and post xmas lockdown
They're still in lockdown,a longer one than ours but only now are much improved but have a third of all adults vaccinated which has helped
This virus is trial and error
Not giving the break from lockdown in november and december I suspect would have lead to even more ignoring restrictions than there is now (and theres a lot!)

Fann Linn wrote: »

I thought Astra Zenica wasn't to be used on the over 80s?

Its being used on healthcare workers including dental practices now

Nobotty wrote: »

The stick your head in the sand and ignore reality reply
Seriously what good was it posting what you posted there?
Wales was pretty bad despite a longer lockdown pre xmas

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-56195959

False narratives should be pointed out IMO. You claimed it would have been the same or worse if they had have followed NPHET advice. That, in my book, is blarney.