Metal Gear Solid V

Robert ninja · 24-06-2015 12:25pm

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Would if I could but I only have a PC and PS4 at the moment

http://pcsx2.net/

Most things PS2 era and earlier are playable to you if you have a PC.

EoinMcLovin · 07-07-2015 9:16am

K.O.Kiki · 08-07-2015 10:38am

I never understood the juxtaposition (especially in MGS4) of having tons of lovingly rendered guns, and then being asked to complete No-Kill runs for the best rewards.

Captain Chaos · 08-07-2015 10:44am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I never understood the juxtaposition (especially in MGS4) of having tons of lovingly rendered guns, and then being asked to complete No-Kill runs for the best rewards.

That was MGS4 being a one off really and going with the whole PMC black markets weapons theme.

In this game none of the guns are real anymore. They are all based on real world designs but none are modeled exactly as they should be or are called their real names. All the other games had real weapons with their real names for the most part. MGS4 had a crazy amount of weapons in it, almost as must as Battlefield 4 with all the DLC parks included.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 08-07-2015 11:39am

That trick shot with the sleep grenade was ridiculous in that video. Not a mad fan of the flying arm either. And what's with the unnecessary titties everywhere? Definitely not a game I want the missus walking in on.

K.O.Kiki · 08-07-2015 12:48pm

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

That trick shot with the sleep grenade was ridiculous in that video. Not a mad fan of the flying arm either. And what's with the unnecessary titties everywhere? Definitely not a game I want the missus walking in on.

Why do people still think like that?

"Oh noes, boobs! Now I can never show my face again!"

Gunmonkey · 08-07-2015 1:39pm

So who else will spend hours trying to find

the best sledding spot?

I wonder how much hidden stuff/collectables will be dotted round the map, apart from side ops. MGS games are notorious for weird little things off the beaten path.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 08-07-2015 2:53pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Why do people still think like that?

"Oh noes, boobs! Now I can never show my face again!"

If the game was based in a titty bar then grand, whop them out there love. But the game is based in a warzone/Afghani desert, having boobs flop across the screen is completely not necessary and detracts from the atmosphere of the game setting. In my opinion of course.

Robert ninja · 08-07-2015 3:23pm

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

If the game was based in a titty bar then grand, whop them out there love. But the game is based in a warzone/Afghani desert, having boobs flop across the screen is completely not necessary and detracts from the atmosphere of the game setting. In my opinion of course.

Because boobs suddenly don't exist as soon as dudes start fighting? Why are people so triggered by nudity? What atmosphere are they detracting from? The atmosphere of a world where women don't exist, or where nudity or just exposed skin don't exist?

YouSavedMyLife · 08-07-2015 3:29pm

MGS games don't take themselves to seriously at the best of times. A sniper in a bra, or attaching a balloon to a KO's soldier and watching him float away is part of the MGS charm.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 08-07-2015 3:38pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

Because boobs suddenly don't exist as soon as dudes start fighting? Why are people so triggered by nudity? What atmosphere are they detracting from? The atmosphere of a world where women don't exist, or where nudity or just exposed skin don't exist?

The atmosphere of a supposedly tense and heated war zone. You don't see many GI Janes running around with their knockers out in combat situations. I have no problem what so ever with nudity etc but it is a bit out of place in the setting of this game.

Robert ninja · 08-07-2015 3:41pm

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

The atmosphere of a supposedly tense and heated war zone. You don't see many GI Janes running around with their knockers out in combat situations. I have no problem what so ever with nudity etc but it is a bit out of place in the setting of this game.

You also don't see eye-patched white guys with mullets riding metal gear into battle to balloon everyone into heaven, either. If tits are the breaking point on what you think is something of a military simulator then I honestly think you're just uncomfortable with nudity. Your argument seems to be an excuse.

Captain Chaos · 08-07-2015 3:50pm

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

or attaching a balloon to a KO's soldier and watching him float away is part of the MGS charm.

That actually real. It's called the Foulton Recovery system and was used alot by the US and RAF from WW2 up to the mid '90s. It was only used for extracting people though, not jeeps and equipment. The balloon carries a cable up for an aircraft to catch though in the MGS universe it a chopper and can't really work as the blades would cut the cable before it could be snagged.

Robert ninja · 08-07-2015 3:54pm

^ Indeed. I played Peace Walker and it was used ridiculously there first. FR is actually one of my big complaints about this game I posted about a while ago. Not in realism it's just I still can't believe that anti-air units don't prevent it or that there isn't at least a few minute delay between each recovery.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 08-07-2015 3:57pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

You also don't see eye-patched white guys with mullets riding metal gear into battle to balloon everyone into heaven, either. If tits are the breaking point on what you think is something of a military simulator then I honestly think you're just uncomfortable with nudity. Your argument seems to be an excuse.

Ah yes, the internet stranger who knows me better than I know myself. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Captain Chaos · 08-07-2015 4:03pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

it's just I still can't believe that anti-air units don't prevent it or that there isn't at least a few minute delay between each recovery.

I know what you mean. They did show in one video recently of a soldier spotting the balloon and shot it preventing the lift.

Robert ninja · 08-07-2015 4:11pm

^ Yeah but that's actually a really frustrating way for the issue to be handled. A cooldown for the FR would make more sense and would lead to less messing up on the players part and anti-air would add a whole layer to the player's strategy. I mean, being careful about who you knock out, when, where and how is a crucial part of the stealth. Having that become null with FR is something I'm quite worried about for the final release.

Cooldown, limited use (commodity item), functioning counter-measures would all be perfect ways to fix this in my opinion.

Moving on from that, though. From all the demo videos I've seen it's obvious they have god mode on because snake could take way too much damage without dying. Which leads me to wonder what kind of damage system is in the final version? Is it the wolverine healing system? I forget how it worked in GZ. I think it would be amazing to, after having an intense battle, be forced to extract because you've got too little HP left to confidently approach another situation. By forced I mean by your own logical decision making... not actually the game taking you out which would be bloody terrible.

Penn · 08-07-2015 4:53pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

^ Indeed. I played Peace Walker and it was used ridiculously there first. FR is actually one of my big complaints about this game I posted about a while ago. Not in realism it's just I still can't believe that anti-air units don't prevent it or that there isn't at least a few minute delay between each recovery.

It's a gameplay mechanic. Nothing more. It's no more ridiculous than the Codec system from the other games. It stimulates your eardrum so only you can hear it? Makes sense. However, how the f*ck can Snake/Raiden/Big Boss talk into it and not have any enemies hear? How can he essentially pause the enemies/bosses to have a long chat with his command team?

I really don't see why people get hung up about such minor things. It's a gameplay mechanic that they offered a reasonable enough explanation for provided you don't think about it too much, which you shouldn't.

Robert ninja · 08-07-2015 5:02pm

Bad Horse wrote: »

It's a gameplay mechanic. Nothing more. It's no more ridiculous than the Codec system from the other games. It stimulates your eardrum so only you can hear it? Makes sense. However, how the f*ck can Snake/Raiden/Big Boss talk into it and not have any enemies hear? How can he essentially pause the enemies/bosses to have a long chat with his command team?

I really don't see why people get hung up about such minor things. It's a gameplay mechanic that they offered a reasonable enough explanation for provided you don't think about it too much, which you shouldn't.

^ But I am judging it as a gameplay mechanic. What's the issue? It's effecting the stealth and difficulty as well as how you approach different situations. I'm asking for cooldowns and use limitations purely on its effect on gameplay, not because I'm thinking too much into it. If that was the case I'd be arguing it shouldn't exist because it's completely unrealistic which is not something I want since they've designed their acquisition of resources almost entirely around it and it's not inherently a bad system. Which is why it's not a 'minor thing'.

Penn · 08-07-2015 5:14pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

^ But I am judging it as a gameplay mechanic. What's the issue? It's effecting the stealth and difficulty as well as how you approach different situations. I'm asking for cooldowns and use limitations purely on its effect on gameplay, not because I'm thinking too much into it. If that was the case I'd be arguing it shouldn't exist because it's completely unrealistic which is not something I want since they've designed their acquisition of resources almost entirely around it and it's not inherently a bad system. Which is why it's not a 'minor thing'.

It does have limitations though. If another enemy is near, they'll shoot it down, or it'll at least put them on alert. You might not always have a 100% chance of it working based on various circumstances (how awake the guard is etc). You also have to buy them. I don't know if there's a limit to how many you can carry but recent gameplay trailers show him carrying about 12 or so. It also costs money to extract things, so heavier things (vehicles, containers) cost more.

Wright · 08-07-2015 8:39pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

I honestly think you're just uncomfortable with nudity

Aye it probably has nothing to do with the chick in the bikini faffing around a warzone. :pac:

Though I think it's pretty clear now that it ties into her abilities. Plus Kojima admitted to pandering to cosplayers with the design. And then there's the whole Quiet=Chico thing... personally after playing MGS games for over a decade, it doesn't bother me. It's certainly not generic.

foxtrot101 · 13-07-2015 12:47am

Robert ninja wrote: »

^ Indeed. I played Peace Walker and it was used ridiculously there first. FR is actually one of my big complaints about this game I posted about a while ago. Not in realism it's just I still can't believe that anti-air units don't prevent it or that there isn't at least a few minute delay between each recovery.

You're going to have to extract hundreds of soldiers to build Mother Base back up. Having to hump each one to an extraction point and then put them on a helicopter would get old pretty quick. I'm kind of hoping for a fulton launcher to make things easier still.

Anyway, they say on gameplay demos that the fultons can be shot down if used in populated areas.

Captain Chaos · 14-07-2015 1:11am

I hope this game does not ship with any serious bugs or issues as it looks like this game will never be patched or updated as Kojima Productions is closing it's doors and disbanding as soon as the game ships. Thats the online element of the game knackered anyway.

SouthTippBass · 14-07-2015 1:56am

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I hope this game does not ship with any serious bugs or issues as it looks like this game will never be patched or updated as Kojima Productions is closing it's doors and disbanding as soon as the game ships. Thats the online element of the game knackered anyway.

****, you're right

AbusesToilets · 14-07-2015 4:33am

That's crazy to think about. What does the future hold for the series? I haven't been all up on the issues that arose recently with Kojima.

Penn · 14-07-2015 8:44am

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I hope this game does not ship with any serious bugs or issues as it looks like this game will never be patched or updated as Kojima Productions is closing it's doors and disbanding as soon as the game ships. Thats the online element of the game knackered anyway.

I heard the news about Kojima Pro but never even considered patches/online. Man, that could be a serious kicker.

Wright · 14-07-2015 10:38am

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I hope this game does not ship with any serious bugs or issues as it looks like this game will never be patched or updated as Kojima Productions is closing it's doors and disbanding as soon as the game ships. Thats the online element of the game knackered anyway.

L.A. were the ones working on multi, have they been disbanded too?

EoinMcLovin · 14-07-2015 11:23am

Konami are after removing all Kojima branding from Phantom Pain cover.
http://www.destructoid.com/konami-removes-all-kojima-branding-from-mgsv-phantom-pain-cover-295977.phtml
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zl1whqvjs75cdy · 14-07-2015 12:12pm

Jesus that's very petty, the guy still made the game. What exactly happened there anyway? Seems to be a serious case of toys out of the pram going on.

Penn · 14-07-2015 12:14pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Konami are after removing all Kojima branding from Phantom Pain cover.

They did it a few weeks ago (well, the 'A Hideo Kojima Game' part, maybe not the logo) and then due to outcry by fans, put his name back on it. Now they're taking it off again?

That's insane.

Man, I'd love to be a multi-lingual fly on the wall for some of those meetings

K.O.Kiki · 14-07-2015 1:05pm

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I hope this game does not ship with any serious bugs or issues as it looks like this game will never be patched or updated as Kojima Productions is closing it's doors and disbanding as soon as the game ships. Thats the online element of the game knackered anyway.

I was actually looking forward to Metal Gear Online play

EDDIE WATERS · 14-07-2015 1:27pm

As wright said MGO is being looked after by the LA studio.

ibstar · 14-07-2015 1:36pm

As much as I love MGS series for the sotryline, MGS3 and MGS4 spoiled me with MGO, and if MGS5 wouldn't have MGO, I probably wouldn't be buying it

MGO is best hardcore shooter,for hardcore players. Steep but rewarding learning curve.MGO really separated noobs from serious gamers.

tok9 · 14-07-2015 1:40pm

To be honest I'm more disappointed in the cover itself.. very bland.

ibstar · 14-07-2015 1:42pm

tok9 wrote: »

To be honest I'm more disappointed in the cover itself.. very bland.

I love their old style covers (always reminded me of final fantasy

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callaway92 · 14-07-2015 2:45pm

Will this be the last Metal Gear Solid game following Big Boss/Solid Snake or will they squeeze in something in the timeline between Phantom Pain & Metal Gear?

Penn · 14-07-2015 2:52pm

callaway92 wrote: »

Will this be the last Metal Gear Solid game following Big Boss/Solid Snake or will they squeeze in something in the timeline between Phantom Pain & Metal Gear?

It's almost definitely Kojima's last game, particularly given the breakup of KojimaPro and Konami. After that, who knows. I think Konami have said they're still going to develop more Metal Gear games, but given their shift out of major AAA game production, f*ck only knows what type of games they'll make.

Captain Chaos · 14-07-2015 2:54pm

Stuff like Metal Gear Rising probably.

Wright · 14-07-2015 2:57pm

EDDIE WATERS wrote: »

As wright said MGO is being looked after by the LA studio.

I wonder if they'll also patch SP and finalise the PC port too... or were they closed too? If not I can see them taking the reins on any future MGS. MGS: Of duty incoming...

callaway92 wrote: »

Will this be the last Metal Gear Solid game following Big Boss/Solid Snake or will they squeeze in something in the timeline between Phantom Pain & Metal Gear?

Doesn't matter, anything after this is not Kojima so I won't be playing.

Oh and it should be Big Boss/Grey Fox ;P Solid is like 9 years old in this. And blonde haha.

Penn · 14-07-2015 3:00pm

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Stuff like Metal Gear Rising probably.

Anything they can shove full of DLC & Season Passes, I reckon. Content/Story will be secondary to that.

callaway92 · 14-07-2015 3:35pm

Wright wrote: »

Doesn't matter, anything after this is not Kojima so I won't be playing.

.

You say that . . . . .

Wright · 14-07-2015 9:43pm

callaway92 wrote: »

You say that . . . . .

Even paying Konami 60 for V is grating :P

ERG89 · 16-07-2015 10:12am

Been in my backlog for ages so I finally finished the story mission from MGS: Ground Zeroes. Got a B...did terrible, you know its bad when your suppressor breaks

This song has been stuck in my head since....

callaway92 · 16-07-2015 11:35am

ERG89 wrote: »

Been in my backlog for ages so I finally finished the story mission from MGS: Ground Zeroes. Got a B...did terrible, you know its bad when your suppressor breaks
This song has been stuck in my head since....

Love this version. The slow one from MGS IV is better though!

Wright · 16-07-2015 12:05pm

callaway92 wrote: »

Love this version. The slow one from MGS IV is better though!

Went back and played 4 a few weeks ago. Never really noticed this song in the credits. Blew my mind when it started playing, having of course played GZ many times since. Foreshadowing eh. Wonder how much of a picture he had in his mind for V by the time he'd finished 4.

EoinMcLovin · 23-07-2015 9:39am

Game is 25GB download
http://www.vg247.com/2015/07/23/metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pain-download-size-how-big/

tok9 · 23-07-2015 9:58am

That sounds surprisingly small for an MGS game.

K.O.Kiki · 23-07-2015 3:15pm

tok9 wrote: »

That sounds surprisingly small for an MGS game.

Maybe the FOX engine is really good for optimisation?

Penn · 23-07-2015 3:30pm

Could that just be the initial download size which allows you to start playing (while the rest downloads in the background)?

tok9 · 23-07-2015 3:31pm

I'm guessing it's down to all the cutscenes being in real time as opposed to rendered.

Metal Gear Solid V

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