Kerry Airport - News & Updates

ongarboy · 21-01-2020 12:29pm

embraer170 wrote: »

Great news. 3 months is not a huge amount of time to promote a route... so fingers crossed it survives.

The dep/arr days are perfect for weekend/city breaks so hopefully it does well. I recall a KIR MAN route by Ryanair years ago but it got pulled so hopefully a better return for the airline this time round!

embraer170 · 21-01-2020 12:42pm

ongarboy wrote: »

The dep/arr days are perfect for weekend/city breaks so hopefully it does well. I recall a KIR MAN route by Ryanair years ago but it got pulled so hopefully a better return for the airline this time round!

I think it was Aer Arann that operated KIR MAN for one or two years. Ryanair tried Kerry - Liverpool but it just lasted for a season.

embraer170 · 21-01-2020 12:45pm

There also seems to be some expansion on the Spanish routes this summer:

ALC operated from 30/03 to 23/10 twice weekly (Monday/Sunday), and in the 01/06 to 31/08 period three time weekly with a flight on Wednesday.
FAO operated from 02/06 to 29/08 (Tuesday/Saturday)

embraer170 · 21-01-2020 1:17pm

A list of scheduled departures in JUL/AUG. The departures area will not be a pleasant place to be on Wednesday and Sunday with 4 Boeing 737-800s in two hours.

MON
 
07:30 DUB AT7
14:10 DUB AT7
15:00 HHN 738
16:05 STN 738
17:05 ALC 738
18:15 LTN 738
 
TUE

07:30 DUB AT7
10:10 FAO 738
14:10 DUB AT7
18:15 LTN 738

WED 

07:30 DUB AT7
14:10 DUB AT7
15:00 HHN 738
15:50 ALC 738
16:05 STN 738
18:15 LTN 738
20:05 SXF 738  

THU

07:30 DUB AT7
14:10 DUB AT7
15:55 MAN 738
16:05 STN 738
18:15 LTN 738

FRI

07:30 DUB AT7
09:15 ALC 738
14:10 DUB AT7
15:00 HHN 738
16:05 STN 738
18:15 LTN 738

SAT

07:30 DUB AT7
10:15 FAO 738
14:10 DUB AT7
15:50 ALC 738
18:15 LTN 738  

SUN

09:00 DUB AT7
14:10 DUB AT7
15:55 HHN 738
16:00 MAN 738
16:05 STN 738
18:00 SXF 738
18:15 LTN 738

marno21 · 21-01-2020 1:45pm

Very good flight times for weekends in Manchester/Liverpool and for those visiting Kerry for a weekend. Would be fantastic if it continued past the summer for matches

The first weekend this is running is City vs Liverpool in Manchester which will probably be busy

Those Thursday flight times will be very useful for United fans for Europa League games also

john boye · 21-01-2020 6:26pm

marno21 wrote: »

Those Thursday flight times will be very useful for United fans for Europa League games also

Are we just taking for granted now that they'll still be in that next year rather than the Champions League?

embraer170 · 23-01-2020 7:21pm

TD Brendan Griffin talking about the route being launched with "with the help of major Government support through @TourismIreland funding."

It would be interesting to know how much Ryanair are getting per passengers (but of course we never will). I would even wonder if funding people's weekend trips is appropriate in today's environmentally conscious world.

LiamaDelta · 23-01-2020 8:35pm

embraer170 wrote: »

TD Brendan Griffin talking about the route being launched with "with the help of major Government support through @TourismIreland funding."

It would be interesting to know how much Ryanair are getting per passengers (but of course we never will). I would even wonder if funding people's weekend trips is appropriate in today's environmentally conscious world.

They're not allowed to subsidise passengers, it's likely promotion being provided by Tourism Ireland

Masala · 23-01-2020 8:43pm

embraer170 wrote: »

TD Brendan Griffin talking about the route being launched with "with the help of major Government support through @TourismIreland funding."

It would be interesting to know how much Ryanair are getting per passengers (but of course we never will). I would even wonder if funding people's weekend trips is appropriate in today's environmentally conscious world.

Where are Ryanair getting money per passenger.??? Cork has launched at least 4 new Ryanair routes recently (Malta, Poznan, + others) .....how much are Cork paying Ryanair??? What about the new Shannon to Vienna and Barcelona???

Griffin is on record about providing €2m this year increasing to €10m over next 5 years to help Tourism Ireland put Ireland on the map overseas including marketing initiatives to promote access to the island.

embraer170 · 23-01-2020 10:15pm

LiamaDelta wrote: »

They're not allowed to subsidise passengers, it's likely promotion being provided by Tourism Ireland

Since when are airports/tourism promotion bodies/local authorities not allowed to subsidise airlines for new routes on a per passenger basis?

My understanding (and I may be wrong) is that they are legal as long as the they are carried out on terms that a private player, operating in a market economy, would have accepted.

https://ec.europa.eu/competition/publications/cpb/2014/002_en.pdf

embraer170 · 23-01-2020 10:20pm

Masala wrote: »

Where are Ryanair getting money per passenger.??? Cork has launched at least 4 new Ryanair routes recently (Malta, Poznan, + others) .....how much are Cork paying Ryanair??? What about the new Shannon to Vienna and Barcelona???

I don't think we will ever know where exactly Ryanair or other airlines are getting money per passenger (except obvious cases like Eilat where subsidies are well known).

Here however we have a clear statement by an elected official saying that the route was made possible by major government funding.

Or is this major support Kerry being advertised on billboards in Manchester?:rolleyes:

Masala · 23-01-2020 10:37pm

embraer170 wrote: »

I don't think we will ever know where exactly Ryanair or other airlines are getting money per passenger (except obvious cases like Eilat where subsidies are well known).

Here however we have a clear statement by an elected official saying that the route was made possible by major government funding.

Or is this major support Kerry being advertised on billboards in Manchester?:rolleyes:

Like any inbound route - I would expect that Tourism Ireland will assist in marketing same on the overseas market bring tourists into the country. Assistance in the form of email shots, billboards, TV advertising, fam trips, press trips, stock images etc. So - he is committing to such assistance... good for him and Kerry.

embraer170 · 05-02-2020 11:16am

Some news from the Kerry Airport:
- A new shop opened last Saturday taking up one of the recently built pre-boarding areas. Passengers have a forced walk through the shop after going through security. It is a big improvement in the shopping experience, but it will certainly not help with the crowding next summer when four 737s depart in two hours. I wonder what the will use the old shop for. Proper toilets? A cafe?

- The latest issue of Connect announces two new routes from Kerry Airport. We have only seen Manchester announced. I am wondering if something else was expected and postponed at the last minute?

JCX BXC · 05-02-2020 1:12pm

Well it looks more like they're announcing the increase in Alicante as a new route, just a PR exercise, and quite a poor and misleading one at that.

embraer170 · 05-02-2020 1:19pm

The airport desperately needs some meaningful airside expansion.

Perhaps they could build a new arrivals hall to the East of the existing one (towards the fire station), and use the existing one for an additional departure gate or two.

Masala · 05-02-2020 1:27pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Well it looks more like they're announcing the increase in Alicante as a new route, just a PR exercise, and quite a poor and misleading one at that.

It looks like an Editors choice of headline..... I dont see where its says its has 2 new flights in the article.

JCX BXC · 05-02-2020 1:31pm

Masala wrote: »

It looks like an Editors choice of headline..... I dont see where its says its has 2 new flights in the article.

It doesn't say it in the article, however it doesn't have to does it, often you'll find big dramatic headlines to get people to read the article. Simple tabloid tactics that are sadly used and accepted more and more every day.

Masala · 05-02-2020 1:35pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

It doesn't say it in the article, however it doesn't have to does it, often you'll find big dramatic headlines to get people to read the article. Simple tabloid tactics that are sadly used and accepted more and more every day.

.... yep thats the world we live in!! Click-bait is the term I believe!!

embraer170 · 05-02-2020 2:41pm

Masala wrote: »

It looks like an Editors choice of headline..... I dont see where its says its has 2 new flights in the article.

I don't have a copy of the magazine with me (and it is not yet on http://connectpublications.ie/portfolio/) but the editorial also made an explicit reference to two new routes. Probably click-bait.

Nigel Fairservice · 06-02-2020 8:53pm

I passed through Kerry airport for the first time recently on my way to Berlin. It had it's pluses and minuses.

The cafe opened about an hour before the gate closed (1.5 hours before scheduled departure). Everyone hanging around for the flight went in and ordered food and drinks . The airport then announced our flight would be leaving early and told everyone to make their way to security. The airport were very persistent with the announcements. People left their food and drinks behind them. The flight didn't leave early at all. It just took off at the scheduled time. It seemed odd they were rushing people so much.

On the plus side the airport was easy and quick to get through. Our return flight landed at 5.05 pm and we made the 5.19 pm train to Cork from Farranfore station.

user52873 · 09-02-2020 8:32am

embraer170 wrote: »

I don't have a copy of the magazine with me (and it is not yet on but the editorial also made an explicit reference to two new routes. Probably click-bait.

I think there was a strong rumor of KLM coming in to serve KIR-AMS and might be that 2nd route?

JCX BXC · 09-02-2020 11:15am

user52873 wrote: »

I think there was a strong rumor of KLM coming in to serve KIR-AMS and might be that 2nd route?

KIR-AMS? That's pie in the sky!

user52873 · 09-02-2020 12:01pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

KIR-AMS? That's pie in the sky!

Here's the background story I was basing that off (cannot post link completely as a new user) - traleetoday.ie/council-to-contact-airline-with-a-view-to-looking-at-kerry-amsterdam-route/

JCX BXC · 09-02-2020 12:04pm

Seems like essentially a non-story, airports make contact with airlines all the time.

It's the airlines who decide which routes to fly, they know the markets, and a bit of contact with Kerry county council isn't going to make much difference here.

Board Walker · 09-02-2020 10:23pm

If any Airport was going to pick up AMS its Shannon

Board Walker · 09-02-2020 10:24pm

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I passed through Kerry airport for the first time recently on my way to Berlin. It had it's pluses and minuses.

The cafe opened about an hour before the gate closed (1.5 hours before scheduled departure). Everyone hanging around for the flight went in and ordered food and drinks . The airport then announced our flight would be leaving early and told everyone to make their way to security. The airport were very persistent with the announcements. People left their food and drinks behind them. The flight didn't leave early at all. It just took off at the scheduled time. It seemed odd they were rushing people so much.

On the plus side the airport was easy and quick to get through. Our return flight landed at 5.05 pm and we made the 5.19 pm train to Cork from Farranfore station.

I bet that was more Ryanair than the airport.

Oscar Bravo · 24-03-2020 6:30pm

EI-FAT,EI-FAX ,EI-FCY,EI-GHK and EI-GHJ all now parked at Kerry for the next while.

24-03-2020 7:13pm

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

EI-FAT,EI-FAX ,EI-FCY,EI-GHK and EI-GHJ all now parked at Kerry for the next while.

Expect all bar two ATRs to position to Kerry for storage.

embraer170 · 24-03-2020 10:51pm

I would love to see a photo of that.
So if anyone happens to have one and wants to share.

TeaPot918 · 24-03-2020 11:02pm

Best I could get

TeaPot918 · 24-03-2020 11:09pm

Three more on finals now, I'l take a spin over tomorrow again. I fly for another grounded crowd so I've nothing better to be doing.

embraer170 · 24-03-2020 11:49pm

Thanks, very much appreciated.

FionnK86 · 27-03-2020 10:54am

Attached from a friend.

embraer170 · 28-03-2020 6:20pm

FionnK86 wrote: »

Attached from a friend.

Thanks for sharing.

embraer170 · 28-03-2020 6:22pm

A bit less special but this is a photo I took during the last storm when there were three Ryanair 737s on the ground at the same time (two Cork diversions and one of the regular London flights).

marno21 · 01-07-2020 3:13pm

Great to see the Ryanair 737s back in the air today. FR5706 to Hahn just after departing and FR701 inbound from Stansted.

Private traffic picking back up again also - N711WM was in from Vegas again last week and the usual Liebherrs are in and out

marno21 · 13-07-2020 10:45am

Looks like a new aircraft based at the airport: Phenom 300 M-NREN of Cross Aviation. Their old aircraft 2-NORN (another Phenom) has positioned to Melbourne, Florida via Reykjavik and Bangor, Maine.

Board Walker · 20-07-2020 8:20am

marno21 wrote: »

Great to see the Ryanair 737s back in the air today. FR5706 to Hahn just after departing and FR701 inbound from Stansted.

Private traffic picking back up again also - N711WM was in from Vegas again last week and the usual Liebherrs are in and out

Imagine spotting in Vegas and hearing someone getting clearance to Kerry

embraer170 · 21-07-2020 6:49pm

Ryanair’s HHN base is apparently set to close because local crew are refusing a pay cut.

It will be interesting to see what happens KIR-HHN, a route that has lasted for a very long time (and has its roots in Aer Lingus summer Saturday/Sunday DUS-DUB-KIR in the mid-90s).

CGN would seem like the most likely alternative, assuming the fees are too high at FRA to sustain such a leisure route.

Mr rebel · 23-07-2020 12:46pm

CGN would be a much more welcome and central choice anyway compared to Hahn which is out in the sticks. Lots more tourists would be eyeing up Kerry as their gateway to Cologne.

weisses · 23-07-2020 3:07pm

embraer170 wrote: »

Ryanair’s HHN base is apparently set to close because local crew are refusing a pay cut.

It will be interesting to see what happens KIR-HHN, a route that has lasted for a very long time (and has its roots in Aer Lingus summer Saturday/Sunday DUS-DUB-KIR in the mid-90s).

CGN would seem like the most likely alternative, assuming the fees are too high at FRA to sustain such a leisure route.

Was it not the case that German pilots as a whole refusing a pay cut therefore making CGN a non valid option ??

embraer170 · 24-07-2020 12:04am

All HHN flights have now been removed from the booking engine from end-October.

My only doubt about CGN is that it probably won't attract the same diversity of passengers as HHN where you would also get a lot of French, Belgian and even Swiss passengers using the KIR flight.

weisses wrote: »

Was it not the case that German pilots as a whole refusing a pay cut therefore making CGN a non valid option ??

CGN is a Malta Air operated base.

marno21 · 07-08-2020 4:39pm

Pax up 1.2% in 2019

https://www.radiokerry.ie/profits-passenger-numbers-kerry-airport-last-year/

Casati · 08-08-2020 12:01am

Does anybody know can you fly to Dublin with just drivers licence or do I need passport?

Flying tomorrow and zero mention of intra Irish flights on EI website

Masala · 08-08-2020 12:44am

Casati wrote: »

Does anybody know can you fly to Dublin with just drivers licence or do I need passport?

Flying tomorrow and zero mention of intra Irish flights on EI website

https://www.aerlingus.com/travel-information/passports-and-visas/travel-to-from-britain/

Looks like u will be ok.

theguzman · 08-08-2020 12:51am

Presuming you are an Irish Citizen an Irish Drivers license will suffice, passport naturally accepted but not necessary.

Ryanair in the old days required an Irish passport but that was due to their archaic online checkin system, our lack of an national ID card and the Kerry-Dublin route being the only internal flight in Ireland they operated.

For Kerry-Dublin now on Aer Lingus it would be same as travel to the UK

Acceptable Identification

If you’re a citizen of Ireland and/or Britain, you need to carry some form of official photo identification in order to be able to fly with us.
Note: To travel between Ireland and Britain with photo identification other than a passport, you must have been born in Ireland or the U.K. and also be a citizen of either country.
The following forms of photo identification are acceptable once they are in date:
Valid passport or Irish passport card

Driver’s licence with photo

International student card

Government issued photo ID cards

Health insurance cards with photo/social security cards with photo

Bus pass with photo

Work ID with photo

Citizens of Ireland and Britain under the age of 16 don’t need a photo ID if travelling with their parent/guardian.
Citizens of countries other than Ireland and Britain must produce a valid passport and visa where applicable for travel between Ireland and Britain.

Casati · 08-08-2020 8:46am

theguzman wrote: »

Presuming you are an Irish Citizen an Irish Drivers license will suffice, passport naturally accepted but not necessary.

Ryanair in the old days required an Irish passport but that was due to their archaic online checkin system, our lack of an national ID card and the Kerry-Dublin route being the only internal flight in Ireland they operated.

For Kerry-Dublin now on Aer Lingus it would be same as travel to the UK

Many thanks for that - I was sure you needed a passport for travel to UK so that ms interesting. Presumably they won’t ask for proof I was born here!

Masala · 08-08-2020 12:00pm

Casati wrote: »

Many thanks for that - I was sure you needed a passport for travel to UK so that ms interesting. Presumably they won’t ask for proof I was born here!

You WILL need a passport if on Ryanair....

marno21 · 19-08-2020 6:37pm

808 passengers on 343 flights between April and June. No FR flights in that period

https://www.radiokerry.ie/99-drop-passenger-numbers-kerry-airport/

Just the Stobarts and private flights.

marno21 · 27-08-2020 7:49pm

FR to drop Berlin, Manchester and summer seasonal Alicante from 1 September. Luton (3pw), Stansted (2pw) and Hahn (until 25 October) (2pw) remain.

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