Heavyweight Boxing

Well in my opinion you only seen power shots and Zhang's were more affective but they alone don't win rounds unless you put your opponent down.

I said it last night and then when the compubox numbers became available they backed up my scoring.

Zhang easily won round 1, then the scoring was tight in round 2 but when there's only a point between them you consider the power shots you've marked down. Zhang was ahead by one in the second but even if he was behind by one I'd still give him the round. The next three rounds were clearly won by Joyce, in round 4 he landed more punches and there was only one between them on power shots so its Joyce's round. That was the closest round of 3, 4 and 5.

My original post was about Zhang mate I’m not here to debate who Joyce could beat. Not entirely sure what you’re trying to get at either so let’s just leave it at that.

It counts up scoring punches, that's the primary, as in most important, part of judging.

You hit ten great shots and get hit twenty times and you lose the round easily.

I said what I thought before compubox numbers were available. Then compubox numbers become available and lo and behold they back up my scoring of the fight.

Like I've heard loads of people calling fights wrongly all the time. They see the big shot and that's all they use to score a round.

If I'm not mistaken I remember you saying Canelo beat Golovkin in their second fight where Golovkin hit way more scoring punches in 10 of the twelve rounds. I don't know what you saw in that fight but it was clearly corrupt judging. Same as the first fight.

Grow up.

I'd be of the opinion that Joyce has a higher IQ than you.

Dozy, do you fancy meeting up and we'll get an IQ test done? I'll bet anything from €200 upwards that I've a higher one than you.

If you want to call people dozy put your money where your mouth is.

You do know that Joyce has a degree?

I never said that. I said that his stamina, reach and jab might be a problem for Usyk and I wouldn't rule it out.

Usyk has an unreal gas tank, great boxing skills. He dominates late in fights when his opponents tire, I'm not saying he doesn't win rounds before that happens but it makes sure there's no question as to whose getting the decision.

My point was that Joyce has a good jab, a big reach advantage and lots of stamina. It'd be an interesting matchup but it'll never happen. Joyce would be close to, if not, 40 by the time he redeems his reputation.

i think for Joe the fact that zhang was a south paw was what did for him, and as a result he has no business in there with Usyk either. He was incapable of getting out of the way of Zhangs right.

The weight loss was a huge issue. He was being pushed around the place by Zhang every time they got close together. If he had the extra weight it's very likely he'd have been able to push Zhang a tiny bit and be out of range before Zhang got his punches off.

Just watched Peter fury talking to Kugan on ifltv and he’s spot on, Zhang has strengths and joyce played into them rather than avoid them, he does go into more detail and it was a decent watch

For anyone that hasn't seen this.

I just think Joe's constant pressure would make AJ fall apart ,

If AJ doesn't get him out in 3 rounds he'd panic ,

Ye it was a very poor performance

AJ couldn't hammer Jermain Franklin for good sake, Zhang is a massive man who hits like a truck early on & doesn't panic, AJ wouldn't even take the Zhang fight like Ortiz a few years back AJ will keep well clear of big punchers

AJ is scared stiff to stand in front of someone to land the amount of big shots Zhang did, AJ would try to beat Joyce on points in a boxing match & personally i think eventfully Joe would get to him,

Usyk would rightly be a massive fav but i think Joe could do him , he'd need some luck but it wouldn't surprise me ,.