Fly Fishing on the Dodder

peter74 · 13-03-2010 11:49pm

l would not want to be that kicked brownie. l think some advise how to handle a fish should have been given to those guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2w9wEIYJY

sickpuppy · 14-03-2010 1:36am

peter74 wrote: »

l would not want to be that kicked brownie. l think some advise how to handle a fish should have been given to those guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2w9wEIYJY

Are these people affiliated to the Dodder anglers association?

they seem clueless with regards fish welfare

fish getting thrown from a height into the water getting dropped into piles of weeds on the bank

surely to hell find a spot where the whole contents of the bin can be poured
not smashed into the river
not sure of the mortality rates with stocked fish but surely some of these were damaged from the falls and impact

coolwings · 14-03-2010 3:49pm

Everyone has to learn sometime.
At least they are putting them into the river.

Best practise is to get to water level, tilt at water level to introduce some river water into the bucket, swirl around to equalise temperatures minimising temperature shock, and then tilt below water level to allow the stocked fish to swim out.

But anyone who has stocked over several years and different waters will tell you it doesn't go like that on the ground!

jack01986 · 14-03-2010 10:23pm

Could someone post up a few flies that work well on the dodder? Just getting the fly tying gear back out and need to restock the box's.

LFC5Times · 18-03-2010 11:05pm

Was walking home this evening around 6.15 pm and there was a guy just after catching a trout just under 1lb I'd say with a garden worm.

I presume it was a brown trout? it was quite bright and colourful looking.

He was just on Dodder Park road behind Kongs.

david_1888 · 22-03-2010 6:42pm

Well has anybody been out yet? Was going to try ballsbridge yesterday morning but some lad got there before me, few trout knocking around, not much action tho... Might try one of the evenings during the week

bernard0368 · 23-03-2010 10:11am

I strolled along the dodder on Sunday, I haven't fished it in about four years now. I was stunned at the amount of rubbish (most of which is left after the floods I presume). What a shame I was thinking of rejoining the Club and using the dodder for when time is restricted or the Liffey is in flood not so sure now

jack01986 · 26-03-2010 4:38pm

Just joined up there today, gonna start tieing up some flys and try get out soon enough.

evilhomer1 · 31-03-2010 8:28pm

I intend to fish the dodder for the first time on Friday and I am wondering what permit is needed as there is not much clarity on efb website. It says that day permits can be purchased at (names a couple of places) but then says "Join the angling club or make a contribution for a day's fishing" anyone able to clarify so I can purchase in advance if needed. Thanks

Kippure · 01-04-2010 12:38pm

evilhomer1 wrote: »

I intend to fish the dodder for the first time on Friday and I am wondering what permit is needed as there is not much clarity on efb website. It says that day permits can be purchased at (names a couple of places) but then says "Join the angling club or make a contribution for a day's fishing" anyone able to clarify so I can purchase in advance if needed. Thanks

Head to rorys fishing tackle in temple bar and purchase the full permit for the year. Adults cost 10 I think, cheaper for Juniors.

LUDLOW CUP

SUNDAY 4TH APRIL

ALL LEGAL METHODS

ADULT & JUNIOR

STARTS DROPPING WELL CAR PARK

11.30 - 17.30

TIGHT LINES

K.

Kippure · 02-04-2010 11:49am

Fly fished from rathfarnam waterfall down to the back of lansdowne road stadium.

Not one fish rose, Was using a butcher, dark olive, march brown and even a gold head nymph.

I cant beleive a didnt hit a fish......whats up with that?

surripere · 02-04-2010 8:06pm

Winters return has turned all but the odd one right off, temp drop action slows. Never fished the dodder, was the river not high and too coloured after recent rainfalls?

Kippure · 02-04-2010 8:25pm

surripere wrote: »

Winters return has turned all but the odd one right off, temp drop action slows. Never fished the dodder, was the river not high and too coloured after recent rainfalls?

It was grand yesterday. Its coloured today parts.

surripere · 03-04-2010 12:07pm

I'd put it down to the dramatic drop in temps so

Kippure · 04-04-2010 6:38pm

A fish of 1 pound 9oz and a quarter won the Ludlow cup.

It was a nice fish.

Caught on an Dark olive i think.

surripere · 05-04-2010 12:54am

nice fish, how was the fishing overall?

Kippure · 05-04-2010 2:49pm

surripere wrote: »

nice fish, how was the fishing overall?

It got good in the afternoon, There was about 6 fish caught. The water is still to cold for the fish to become active feeders again. We need some warmth in the water. A week or two of 15c plus would do.

surripere · 06-04-2010 3:30pm

Some settled, milder weather on the way for rest of week, things are looking up finally, have'nt been able to fish me local in ten days due to high water levels, I was cracking up.

peter74 · 08-04-2010 10:32pm

Tried Dodder today from Beaver row to Ballsbridge. Bit a dissapointment. only one little brownie, another two lost. Czech nymphing and goldhead nymph worked. Large hatches of midges, but only few rising of small fish. 6 lads fishing maggots and spinning today plus otters in that area, so probably all the stockies are gone.

Kippure · 14-04-2010 7:52pm

peter74 wrote: »

Tried Dodder today from Beaver row to Ballsbridge. Bit a dissapointment. only one little brownie, another two lost. Czech nymphing and goldhead nymph worked. Large hatches of midges, but only few rising of small fish. 6 lads fishing maggots and spinning today plus otters in that area, so probably all the stockies are gone.

Got 4 half pounders between balls bridge and the dart bridge on friday. Lost a few more. Using a bloody butcher.

peter74 · 14-04-2010 9:13pm

Weather has changed, so the hatches and fish is rising freely. I got some brownie and parrs on sunday. Missed many more. Grey duster worked really well.

Doc Farrell · 15-04-2010 9:31pm

saw plenty of young trout under the bridge at lansdowne but they were tiny! a heron was paying very close attention too.

Lab_Mouse · 16-04-2010 12:36pm

Hi where can you buy the permits for the dodder?And how much.

thanks

Kippure · 16-04-2010 12:52pm

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Hi where can you buy the permits for the dodder?And how much.

thanks

Rorys fishing tackle in temple bar. South side angling cork st, Tallaght rod and gun, Baumanns Tackle stillorgan, Henrys tackle shop, ABC fishing Tackle.

Tight Lines

DickieBowe · 16-04-2010 4:52pm

Bloody Butcher working very well for me on the east stretch at Ballsbridge.

Kippure · 16-04-2010 6:23pm

DickieBowe wrote: »

Bloody Butcher working very well for me on the east stretch at Ballsbridge.

The butcher is a deadly fly anywhere on the dodder.

DickieBowe · 23-04-2010 1:59pm

Best morning ever on the Dodder, this am, back again after the tea

Kippure · 24-04-2010 6:42pm

DickieBowe wrote: »

Best morning ever on the Dodder, this am, back again after the tea

Had over 30 fish on the dodder this morning using a size 12 peter ross and a butcher. Never hit the pound mark but some nicely coloured wild brownies. But lots and lots of small trout. A cracking morning.

DickieBowe · 24-04-2010 6:59pm

Very nice going Kipure, tomorrow after tea i am going to try a size 8 home tied Siver Stoat. Fingers crossed.
I know it sounds mad, but I just get this crazy feeling!

Kippure · 24-04-2010 8:19pm

DickieBowe wrote: »

Very nice going Kipure, tomorrow after tea i am going to try a size 8 home tied Siver Stoat. Fingers crossed.
I know it sounds mad, but I just get this crazy feeling!

Would you believe a march brown is still good. Anything with silver in it is been devoured. I have been using alexanders 12,s, any black fly with silver in it. For those who say the river has been ravaged, proof is in the fly.

peter74 · 24-04-2010 10:18pm

Kippure wrote: »

Would you believe a march brown is still good. Anything with silver in it is been devoured. I have been using alexanders 12,s, any black fly with silver in it. For those who say the river has been ravaged, proof is in the fly.

You are right. There are fish in river, I got lots of small brownies on wet pheasant tail, but nothing really big. it was better with size this time of last year. But still good sport.

cj salmon · 25-04-2010 4:30pm

although ive fished the resevoir,i have yet to fish the dodder,,can it be fished up near the resevoir?????
dont really fancy fishing near towns and such,,,prefer the countryside

,

any pics

of fish caught on the dodder??,,might fish it next week,,,been busy on my local small streams,the streams have come to life again

,,plenty of dry fly action!!

tight lines lads

coolwings · 25-04-2010 5:42pm

cj salmon wrote: »

although ive fished the resevoir,i have yet to fish the dodder,,can it be fished up near the resevoir?????
dont really fancy fishing near towns and such,,,prefer the countryside ,
..

CJS: The Dodder river at the reservoir is a sanctuary nursery area from which the little fish drop downstream as they grow bigger. You need to go a couple of miles down before finding fish of any size, and even then they're stream trout until it gets to Templeogure-Rathfarnham and the ph of the water ceases to be acidic with more fly life for the trout to feed on.

cj salmon · 25-04-2010 10:37pm

oh ok very good will go down stream so,i dont mind size at all,trout on my local stream are very small so...
great sport on the 3 weight rod

.

peter74 · 26-04-2010 11:42pm

Fished Dodder on Sunday. Rain was not helping at all, but I managed couple of small fish. Later I wanted to try below ballsbridge, but sawage was released from pipe near the colleage. Trouts stopped rising, river got smelly and fishing was over:(

ironbluedun · 27-04-2010 8:19am

peter74 wrote: »

Fished Dodder on Sunday. Rain was not helping at all, but I managed couple of small fish. Later I wanted to try below ballsbridge, but sawage was released from pipe near the colleage. Trouts stopped rising, river got smelly and fishing was over:(

well that's just not trout fishing is it?........................

DickieBowe · 27-04-2010 9:26am

I sure do hate it when everything turns to Sh*^e

Kippure · 27-04-2010 6:23pm

peter74 wrote: »

Fished Dodder on Sunday. Rain was not helping at all, but I managed couple of small fish. Later I wanted to try below ballsbridge, but sawage was released from pipe near the colleage. Trouts stopped rising, river got smelly and fishing was over:(

I know that SENIOR MEMBERS of the Dodder anglers read this thread. For years raw sewage has been pouring into the dodder in 2 area,s. One just after the nine arch,s in miltown and two at the back of the rugby ground in ballsbridge, back of herbert park.

Whats going to to be done about it?

K.

ironbluedun · 28-04-2010 7:51am

Kippure wrote: »

I know that SENIOR MEMBERS of the Dodder anglers read this thread. For years raw sewage has been pouring into the dodder in 2 area,s. One just after the nine arch,s in miltown and two at the back of the rugby ground in ballsbridge, back of herbert park.

Whats going to to be done about it?

K.

nothing

thehamo · 05-05-2010 6:30pm

ON the off chance that someone is going to read this messgae in the next half hour:P does anyone know where I can get a permit after tackle shops close, wanted to go today but didnt get a chance and now that the weather suits im itching to get out!

peter74 · 21-05-2010 4:11pm

Very late session yesterday, started after 8pm. Got 6 small brownies on pheasant tail, lost many more. Could anyone give me any advice, how to play the fish on barbless hooks? Plus what dry fly is working for you best these days? Thanks

Kippure · 21-05-2010 7:07pm

peter74 wrote: »

Very late session yesterday, started after 8pm. Got 6 small brownies on pheasant tail, lost many more. Could anyone give me any advice, how to play the fish on barbless hooks? Plus what dry fly is working for you best these days? Thanks

Hares ear

love to fly fish · 26-05-2010 8:11pm

Hi i was just curious is it possible to use a straight leader for fishing small dry flies on the dodder and if so what advice would you give on the type and lenght of leader and would i need to use a floatant paste on the dry fly.

love to fly fish · 26-05-2010 8:16pm

I tried today on the dodder near the spawell for an hour fly fishing klinkhammer dries on a sraight flourocarbon 6lb leader but no join plenty of rises but no takes is the leader im using too heavy. Advice really appreciated

cj salmon · 26-05-2010 10:04pm

i would say 6lb flouro is over gunning for the average fish in there,but i am not a regular so there might be larger fish,any of the dodder regulars could help you on here,but for small rivers i use a 7 to 8 foot tapered leader ,tapered to 3lb ,then a 2 foot tippet maybe 2 lb breaking strain attached to the leaders end,shorter leaders on very small streams,i find tapered leaders for small dries turns over the very light flies with ease,and creates no disturbance on the water.
this will present your flies better,but if you are getting rises,you may be timing your strikes wrong ,ie: too early /too late.this just takes practice,maybe the other more experienced guys could offer you a rule of thumb,but when i first started i found i struck too early and a little softly,so i now hesitate it a spilt second,but small trout are very quick,comes with time i found.
hope thats of some help,from one novice to another,
and best of luck,no better sport than the dry fly

DickieBowe · 26-05-2010 10:38pm

Have to say CJ is bang on the money, as far as line thickness goes, clearly a case of "less is more"

Might i make one suggestion, that you walk up from the Spawell towards
the South and try near the Boxing Club.

Hope this helps.

ironbluedun · 27-05-2010 9:00am

while i dont fish the dodder...the same rules apply and i would not use 6lbs for river dry fishing... i would use a 3lb co-polymer line when me river dries are out....of course the line is only part of the equation however give the lighter line a go your catch rate may well improve.....and its better fun on a lighter line...sort of a test of your skill if you know what i mean......

love to fly fish · 27-05-2010 10:08pm

Hi lads thanks for the advice much appreciated also i want to ask would i need to use a floatant paste or something to aid in keeping my leader or fly afloat i would like if some lads on the dodder whom fly fish there could show me the set up that they use as in leader set up and dry fly fishing.

love to fly fish · 27-05-2010 10:10pm

Would i even need a floatant to keep a tiny fly afloat.

jack01986 · 28-05-2010 12:16am

If you could get your hands on some tapered leaders with say about a 3lb tippet than that would probably be your best bet. You could even make your own ones as well if you like. I generally use a leader of around 9ft maybe a little shorter. Some flotant would be good for the flies as they can become saturated and lose their buoyancy. Dont put the flotant on any CDC flies it doesnt help. I havent fished the dodder in a while but I would say a longish tapered leader would be best suited. Going to try get out this weekend and will let ya know how I get on.

Fly Fishing on the Dodder

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