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Jessica Yaniv refused service at gynaecologist's office

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  • #202
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    I'm done playing games. Link to the post or withdraw your allegation.

    Why not just argue your counterpoint, instead of acting like you get to direct the debate?


  • #203
    volchitsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Seems ridiculous at first, but read the twitter thread and I feel she may have a point...


    https://twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1201665480504668162

    her three other tweets in that thread:



    How do you feel about this?

    I'm not too sure, Trans people should have access to services they need, but I don't know if every gynaecological surgery should or could be able to handle cases like these...
    The thread has disappeared from Twitter. I wonder was it a fake right from the start?

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • #204
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    This one?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111928339&postcount=19

    It doesn't mention Yaniv at all. Nada. Zilch. Rien.

    Answering another forum member’s question about whether they knew Yaniv, Mitch Connor had this to say:
    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    nope. and i don't care.

    the hate in this thread has been generalised on transgender people and any possible need for a Gynaecologists - not simply or just this specific person.

    Forget the possible need for a Gynaecologists - the hateful mob have decided they aren't needed and are just a publicity stunt.
    Forget that they were refered to a Gynaecologist - the hateful mob have decided they aren't needed and its just a publicity stunt.

    People do indeed have a strong reaction to Yaniv, with good reason. That poster jumped to conclusions without being informed.

    Others have pointed out that most gynaecologists won’t have specialist training to deal with transgender people and that, in that case, turning Yaniv away would not only be sensible but the most responsible thing to do. I wouldn’t want an underqualified doctor. Who would?


  • #205
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    I'm done playing games. Link to the post or withdraw your allegation.

    It's clear as day that posters, Mitch Connor in particular, were trying to defend Yaniv. It's funny that when I mentioned he was a predatory paedophile and that poster should read about him/her the poster didn't come back to the thread. And you know what? That does not bother me in the slightest, I hope that poster now realises it was an error in judgement and has realised how disgusting a person Yaniv is.


  • #206
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    *cry* link to the post...

    Ffs, this idiot spans at least three threads hundreds of pages long each. There’s plenty defending him.


  • #207
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,458 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Answering another forum member’s question about whether they knew Yaniv, Mitch Connor had this to say:

    People do indeed have a strong reaction to Yaniv, with good reason. That poster jumped to conclusions without being informed.

    Others have pointed out that most gynaecologists won’t have specialist training to deal with transgender people and that, in that case, turning Yaniv away would not only be sensible but the most responsible thing to do. I wouldn’t want an underqualified doctor. Who would?
    Again, there's nothing in that comment from Mitch that defends Yaniv.
    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    It's clear as day that posters, Mitch Connor in particular, were trying to defend Yaniv.
    Clear from what? Can you point to a post or two where Yaniv was defended please?
    JayZeus wrote: »
    Why not just argue your counterpoint, instead of acting like you get to direct the debate?

    Counterpoint to what? I don't know what I'm arguing until I can see it.
    Where are these posts defending Yaniv?


  • #208
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Again, there's nothing in that comment from Mitch that defends Yaniv.


    Clear from what? Can you point to a post or two where Yaniv was defended please?



    Counterpoint to what? I don't know what I'm arguing until I can see it.
    Where are these posts defending Yaniv?

    Asking me to name the gyno who could be closed down?
    Saying I hate ALL trans people?
    Constantly contradicting posters who called Yaniv "he".

    There's 3 instances I would see as defending Yaniv. Im not linking the posts for context, feel free to look for yourself. First 3 pages of the thread.


  • #209
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Again, there's nothing in that comment from Mitch that defends Yaniv.


    Clear from what? Can you point to a post or two where Yaniv was defended please?



    Counterpoint to what? I don't know what I'm arguing until I can see it.
    Where are these posts defending Yaniv?

    You’re just asking questions, right?

    People learn to read between the lines in Leaving Certificate English. You know well that plenty can be inferred with things being spelled out literally. Maybe you are flagging your inability to do that?


  • #210
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Jessica Yaniv lives simply to cause trouble for people of various professions who are not qualified to meet her needs. She then runs to court shrieking about discrimination. When she’s gotten rid of her male genitalia, then she might be listened to and taken seriously. As it is, she’s doing transgender people no favours at all.


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  • #211
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,458 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    You’re just asking questions, right?

    People learn to read between the lines in Leaving Certificate English. You know well that plenty can be inferred with things being spelled out literally. Maybe you are flagging your inability to do that?

    I'm genuinely unclear what you are saying here, so maybe you'd be better spelling it out literally rather than relying on me to read between the lines.

    Possibly, you're saying that anyone who doesn't immediately jump on the bandwagon of 'let's attack Yaniv and while we're at it, let's have a good go at transgender people' is defending Yaniv - is this the case?
    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    Asking me to name the gyno who could be closed down?
    Saying I hate ALL trans people?
    Constantly contradicting posters who called Yaniv "he".

    There's 3 instances I would see as defending Yaniv. Im not linking the posts for context, feel free to look for yourself. First 3 pages of the thread.
    First two again have nothing to do with Yaniv - they are about you, not about Yaniv. The third doesn't defend anything that Yaniv did or said. It simply respects the boards.ie policy of not misgendering people.


  • #212
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Reading the stuff about Yaniv and periods makes that South Park episode where Mr. Garrison is eagerly awaiting his first period appear scarily prescient. :eek: And in the same episode, Gerald asking where the trans-species toilets are. :D


  • #213
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Jessica Yaniv lives simply to cause trouble for people of various professions who are not qualified to meet her needs. She then runs to court shrieking about discrimination. When she’s gotten rid of her male genitalia, then she might be listened to and taken seriously. As it is, she’s doing transgender people no favours at all.

    He’s not interested in getting rid of his male genitalia. He’s interested in transversing laws which prevent him from forcing young women to handle his male genitalia, by insisting that he be recognised as a woman. Interestingly enough you are facilitating him here by referring to him as she and her.
    He also has a menstruation fetish which he seeks to pursue without being charged with paedophilia.


  • #214
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Blaire High Pacemaker wrote: »
    In this thread, a Boards community manager states that it's official site policy that you have to refer to a trans person by their preferred pronoun.


    Ah yes, we all remember it well.


    Compelled speech is not a great way to persuade people but it is crucial to the gender ideologists dogma.


    Policy capture 101.


  • #215
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Oger still supports Yaniv on the access to female only services stuff. Oger gave Yaniv the legal advice for the tribunal cases. Oger tweeted yesterday that Yaniv could have a need to see a gynaecologist. So it's fair to say that the main Trans activist in Canada supports a biological males right to access services that specially for females only.

    https://twitter.com/MorganeOgerBC/status/1201992856107278336?s=19


    Oger of course, is the one who got the a Vancouver Womens' refuge defunded because they rightly insisted no men would be allowed cross their door where beaten and raped women were seeking refuge.


  • #216
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    splinter65 wrote: »
    He’s not interested in getting rid of his male genitalia. He’s interested in transversing laws which prevent him from forcing young women to handle his male genitalia, by insisting that he be recognised as a woman. Interestingly enough you are facilitating him here by referring to him as she and her.
    He also has a menstruation fetish which he seeks to pursue without being charged with paedophilia.

    I think that I read where she’s on a waiting list to have the last male bits removed. Maybe this is her way of financing it?

    She actually comes across as confused and unhappy.

    I’m just trying to be PC by referring to the poor cratur as she/her.


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  • #217
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think that I read where she’s on a waiting list to have the last male bits removed. Maybe this is her way of financing it?

    She actually comes across as confused and unhappy.

    I’m just trying to be PC by referring to the poor cratur as she/her.

    Hasn't had any surgery. None, not a single procedure.


  • #218
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    Yaniv is no more a woman than I am a polar bear. Putting on lipstick and a dress occasionally does not a woman make. My brain tells me it is a man but I am supposed to deny that and call Yaniv she/her. Black face is not acceptable so I don’t know why this is.


  • #219
    Still waters
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    The Regime wrote: »
    Holy fcuk, the people who run Boards actually demand that we refer to this sad fcuk Yaniv as 'she'...

    They are more mental than he is!

    They seem to have relaxed a bit on this, i suppose they realise pandering to the whims of a minuscule minority isn't for the greater good, the people have spoken


  • #220
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    The Regime wrote: »
    Holy fcuk, the people who run Boards actually demand that we refer to this sad fcuk Yaniv as 'she'...

    They are more mental than he is!

    If you don't think this is a beautiful woman you're a transphobe.

    yaniv-780x390.png
    image safe


  • #221
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Still waters wrote: »
    They seem to have relaxed a bit on this, i suppose they realise pandering to the whims of a minuscule minority isn't for the greater good, the people have spoken

    Yeah, I can't see it being enforced a lot to be honest... I doubt even the mods agree with it. Lets hope common sense prevails.


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  • #222
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    If you don't think this is a beautiful woman you're a transphobe.

    yaniv-780x390.png
    image safe

    Nah I just don't consider a guy in a wig with lipstick a woman, maybe I 'm old fashioned. 'Have a dick you ain't a chick', simple.


  • #223
    gw80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭gw80


    We need a war.
    A big one.


  • #224
    hussey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    I feel the whole point of these things is to get their name out there, ... and this thread is doing exactly that.
    First rule of the internet: Don't feed the troll.
    But that is exactly what we are doing.


  • #225
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    If you don't think this is a beautiful woman you're a transphobe.

    yaniv-780x390.png
    image safe

    It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again


  • #226
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,458 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    gw80 wrote: »
    We need a war.
    A big one.
    It's a slight overreaction to deal with one person half way round the world.


  • #227
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    The Regime wrote: »
    Holy fcuk, the people who run Boards actually demand that we refer to this sad fcuk Yaniv as 'she'...
    That wasn't the demand. Specifically not:
    You are not being forced to refer to Yaniv as a woman, you are simply being asked not to refer to her or any other transgender woman as a man/he/his. Equally not to refer to a transgender man as a woman/she/her. This goes for all discussions about transgender people - either gender neutral or the gender they identify as is the preferable thing to use when posting

    Not a ruling I agree with personally, but also not how some people on this thread - who definitely know better - are portraying it.


  • #228
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    splinter65 wrote: »
    He’s not interested in getting rid of his male genitalia. He’s interested in transversing laws which prevent him from forcing young women to handle his male genitalia, by insisting that he be recognised as a woman. Interestingly enough you are facilitating him here by referring to him as she and her.
    He also has a menstruation fetish which he seeks to pursue without being charged with paedophilia.


    Just linking this again https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2...s-activist-bc/, as it could look like allot of these accusations were unfounded but Jessica seems to fly very close to the sun when it comes to younger people.


  • #229
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    The Regime wrote: »
    Right, so if I call Yaniv 'he', some trans people will get upset? So how exactly does it affect individual transpeople if I call Yaniv a man?

    What am I missing here?
    I think if you read that thread, Niamh specifically says that the policy isn't about Yaniv per se, but trans people in general, particularly those who use this site.


  • #230
    TCM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭TCM


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote:
    it’s a psychologist he needs not a gynaecologist


    No, not a psychologist but a psychiatrist.


  • #231
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    The Regime wrote: »
    I don't get why random trans people would be upset that we're calling him a man. Why would they care?

    Yaniv aside and the biological rights and wrongs of it, can you imagine that a trans person who identifies as a woman might feel upset if people insisted on referring to them as a man?


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  • #232
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,754 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    TCM wrote: »
    No, not a psychologist but a psychiatrist.

    Billy is not a real transsexual. But he thinks he is. He tries to be.

    He's tried to be a lot of things, I expect.


  • #233
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    The Regime wrote: »
    Yeah maybe. But I don't see how they would get offended over me calling Yaniv a man. Don't see how anyone tbh

    The policy isn't about Yaniv per se - Niamh specifically made that point - but about trans people in general.
    You say that you can imagine how they might be upset and I suspect that's at the root of the policy.

    Not a policy I agree with personally; I don't think Boards should be in the business of protecting people's feelings, and posters who antagonistically 'misgender' can be dealt with under the 'don't be a dick' rule.


  • #234
    volchitsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Phoebas wrote: »
    The policy isn't about Yaniv per se - Niamh specifically made that point - but about trans people in general.
    You say that you can imagine how they might be upset and I suspect that's at the root of the policy.

    Not a policy I agree with personally; I don't think Boards should be in the business of protecting people's feelings, and posters who antagonistically 'misgender' can be dealt with under the 'don't be a dick' rule.

    And quite right too, in the circumstances. :D

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • #235
    Rodin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    Women don't have penises. This person does.

    Biology really is very simple.
    Asking me to refer to someone with a penis as a woman, is like asking me to state the earth is flat.


  • #236
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Yaniv liked this.
    Yaniv is not a parody account though.
    Yaniv is disgusting in real life behaviour but is useful in exposing the ridiculousness of gender ideology being transposed into law silently.


    ELA4vddXsAAlTPJ?format=jpg&name=900x900


  • #237
    20Wheel
    Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Suppose -e actually does get into the gynos office after it all.

    Thats going to be one stumped gynecologist.

    Ehhh....Good news... I find you to be free of any condition in any gynocology textbook ever. Lucky lady.

    No return appointment needed. Doors over there.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • #238
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    emotional vagina!!! Brilliant.


  • #239
    Fracture
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Fracture


    I remember reading about this deranged nutter months ago, i can't believe he's at it again. How anyone actually takes him seriously is mind boggling. The worst thing is he's actually doing real damage to the trans community.


  • #240
    AllGunsBlazing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Deleted User wrote: »
    emotional vagina!!! Brilliant.

    Yep, absolutely love their second album.


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  • #241
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,233 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Sounds like an alternate version of a Bo Burnham poem

    "Me, with my strange choice of adjectives.
    You, with your muscular teeth and clockwise vagina spiritual uterus and emotional vagina"


  • #242
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Oh the same people at it again, they want to burn the whole world down because their feelings have been hurt....


  • #243
    keano_afc
    Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Yaniv_pool_request_645_836_75.jpg

    I'll just leave this here so the noobie wokies know who's been singled out and why. It's not a reflection on boards members of any twist.

    Canada has been completely f*cked up with the trans revolution. Banning parents? Thats actually scary.


  • #244
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    keano_afc wrote: »
    Canada has been completely f*cked up with the trans revolution. Banning parents? Thats actually scary.

    It would be scary if it happened.
    But ask yourself, did it happen?


  • #245
    Venom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Phoebas wrote: »
    It would be scary if it happened.
    But ask yourself, did it happen?


    It didn't happen last time but the scumbag has an application in for another try at getting the event started. The fact such an application could contain "parents and guardians will be prohibited from attending" and not set off any red flags and have the authorities investigating Yaniv with a fine tooth comb, is pretty scary to me.


  • #246
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I just don't understand why people are this obsessed with sex and gender, isn't there more to life? like a lot more


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  • #247
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Venom wrote: »
    It didn't happen last time but the scumbag has an application in for another try at getting the event started. The fact such an application could contain "parents and guardians will be prohibited from attending" and not set off any red flags and have the authorities investigating Yaniv with a fine tooth comb, is pretty scary to me.

    It didn't happen and it won't happen.
    This guy/gal (delete as appropriate) is trolling and there's no shortage of people more than willing to be trolled.


  • #248
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Yaniv liked this.
    Yaniv is not a parody account though.
    Yaniv is disgusting in real life behaviour but is useful in exposing the ridiculousness of gender ideology being transposed into law silently.


    ELA4vddXsAAlTPJ?format=jpg&name=900x900

    I'm old so need to ask. Is this a real person posting this and actually meaning it or is it sarcasm??


  • #249
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    when they changed the meaning of "literally" we should have committed mass suicide


  • #250
    Fracture
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Fracture


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    I'm old so need to ask. Is this a real person posting this and actually meaning it or is it sarcasm??

    It's real, welcome on board the crazy train.


  • #251
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I am born woman and have female bits so to speak, but I identify as male, therefore I feel I am entitled by a divine right of law to have the health of my prostate checked in case I develop an emotional cancer of said organ. But I am outraged by my human rights being trespassed by my GP who is refusing to give me a referral to a Consultant Urologist. Last year I identified as a Cat, and he refused to give me a referral to a Vet.
    :D


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