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97 dead in suicide attacks in Turkish capital Ankara

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  • 10-10-2015 5:50pm
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    Boring username
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    Two explosions have ripped through a pro-Kurdish peace rally in the Turkish capital of Ankara, leaving at least 97 people dead and up to 400 injured.

    Witnesses described how the blast shook the ground at the road junction near the main train station in the centre of the Turkish capital Ankara, leaving body parts and debris all over the road.

    Video footage has since emerged of protesters holding hands and dancing together just as the bomb is detonated in the background at 10:05 am.

    Seconds later, the blast tore through the crowd of people, maiming dozens of innocent bystanders.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267368/Two-explosions-hit-pro-Kurdish-peace-rally-leaving-20-people-dead-Turkish-capital-Ankara.html


    The security situation is decaying rapidly in Turkey-there could well be an open civil war after this attack. I can't see the Kurds letting this one go.


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    tomwaterford
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    Boring username wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267368/Two-explosions-hit-pro-Kurdish-peace-rally-leaving-20-people-dead-Turkish-capital-Ankara.html


    The security situation is decaying rapidly in Turkey-there could well be an open civil war after this attack. I can't see the Kurds letting this one go.


    It should be interesting to see who claims this!

    As afaik Kurds are doing a lot of fighting vs isis...either way...if people winge about refugees coming to Europe before now...if civil war breaks out in Turkey their is literally millions of refugees there

    No mind the chaos it'll cause in the middle east


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    Fleawuss
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    Terribly unstable region between Kurds and Muslim factions and Mr Putin sending jets into Turkish / NATO airspace. Stabilization for the sake of Europe is needed. Your holiday destinations need careful thought anymore.


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    #4
    Boring username
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    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Terribly unstable region between Kurds and Muslim factions and Mr Putin sending jets into Turkish / NATO airspace. Stabilization for the sake of Europe is needed. Your holiday destinations need careful thought anymore.



    Things are about to get a lot, lot worse. Reports are filtering through that Turkey has shot down a Russian fighter jet:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267595/Russian-jet-shot-Turkish-forces-flew-country-s-airspace.html


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    riffmongous
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    Rip, so many dead :(

    The international community needs to demand that some answers as to who did this


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    Boring username wrote: »
    Things are about to get a lot, lot worse. Reports are filtering through that Turkey has shot down a Russian fighter jet:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267595/Russian-jet-shot-Turkish-forces-flew-country-s-airspace.html
    Daily Mail

    "Unconfirmed reports"

    "Eyewitnesses on social media"

    "Rumours of a jet being shot"

    "spokesman for Nato said it had so far received no reports of a plane being shot down"

    Seems legit


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    Iwasfrozen
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    It should be interesting to see who claims this!

    As afaik Kurds are doing a lot of fighting vs isis...either way...if people winge about refugees coming to Europe before now...if civil war breaks out in Turkey their is literally millions of refugees there

    No mind the chaos it'll cause in the middle east
    Civil war in Turkey won't happen, it's a NATO nation with a very powerful military and stable civilian democratic government. Equating Kurdish dissent to a Turkish civil is the same as equating the troubles to a British civil war.


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    BlaasForRafa
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Civil war in Turkey won't happen, it's a NATO nation with a very powerful military and stable civilian democratic government. Equating Kurdish dissent to a Turkish civil is the same as equating the troubles to a British civil war.

    Turkey used to be a stable democracy but has been getting steadily more islamist under Erdogan's rule. It's starting to turn into just another middle eastern sh**hole. It's gotten a free pass for decades because it's a Nato member despite invading Cyprus and oppressing the Kurds in it's own country.

    I saw the footage of the attack on the news and it's disgusting to attack a peaceful protest like this. I wonder if it was outside forces like Daesh carried it out or if there was some turkish government intelligence service plotting involved.


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    Iwasfrozen
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    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    Turkey used to be a stable democracy but has been getting steadily more islamist under Erdogan's rule. It's starting to turn into just another middle eastern sh**hole. It's gotten a free pass for decades because it's a Nato member despite invading Cyprus and oppressing the Kurds in it's own country.

    I saw the footage of the attack on the news and it's disgusting to attack a peaceful protest like this. I wonder if it was outside forces like Daesh carried it out or if there was some turkish government intelligence service plotting involved.
    Turkey's military has traditionally dealt with politicians who try to push the country away from Ataturk's secularism. I don't think Erdogan will be any different if he goes too far and he knows it.

    I agree the attack was disgusting but we as of yet have no idea who it was. Speculation at this stage is pointless.


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    BlaasForRafa
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    Boring username wrote: »
    Things are about to get a lot, lot worse. Reports are filtering through that Turkey has shot down a Russian fighter jet:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267595/Russian-jet-shot-Turkish-forces-flew-country-s-airspace.html

    Daily Fail are not a particularly reliable source.
    According to the Daily Express, one journalist tweeted that three Turkish planes had been responding to 'mysterious' lock-ons from MIG-29 jets, which are used by Putin's forces.

    The reports from Syria from the last few weeks indicate that Russia has used Sukhoi planes, namely the Su-24, 25, 30 and 34 in Syria. On the other hand though Mig-29's are being used by the Syrian air force.


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    NachoBusiness
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    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    Daily Fail are not a particularly reliable source.

    Yes they are..

    In any case, they are making it quite clear that the reports that are coming in are unconfirmed.

    Express is also saying as much:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/611157/Russia-Turkey-jet-plane-shot-down-airspace-Syria-ISIS-Islamic-State


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    Boring username
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    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    Daily Fail are not a particularly reliable source.



    The reports from Syria from the last few weeks indicate that Russia has used Sukhoi planes, namely the Su-24, 25, 30 and 34 in Syria. On the other hand though Mig-29's are being used by the Syrian air force.

    Haven't the Russian supplied a few pilots to fly the Migs? I recall seeing that somewhere during the week.


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    NachoBusiness
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    New York Times reporting it now:

    ISTANBUL — Two devastating explosions struck Saturday morning in the heart of Ankara, the Turkish capital, killing more than 80 people who had gathered for a peace rally and heightening tensions just three weeks before snap parliamentary elections.

    At least 86 people were killed and 186 were wounded, said the health minister, Mehmet Muezzinoglu.

    The blasts, which appeared to be the deadliest terrorist attack in modern Turkey’s history, occurred near Ankara’s main train station just as groups of Kurds and leftists planned to march to protest the recent resumption of armed conflict between the Turkish state and Kurdish militants. It is a conflict that has been waged for nearly three decades, but in recent times the two sides seemed on the path to peace.


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    BlaasForRafa
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    NachoBusiness wrote: »
    Yes they are..

    In any case, they are making it quite clear that the reports that are coming in are unconfirmed.

    Express is also saying as much:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/611157/Russia-Turkey-jet-plane-shot-down-airspace-Syria-ISIS-Islamic-State

    Lol the Daily Fail are a reliable source, hilarious. And then you quote the Express, another useless tabloid.

    btw the Express illustrated their piece with a picture of a Mig-29 from the POLISH air force. Shows how much research they do eh.


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    BlaasForRafa
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    Boring username wrote: »
    Haven't the Russian supplied a few pilots to fly the Migs? I recall seeing that somewhere during the week.

    Possibly, Soviet pilots flew for North Korea, North Vietnam and Egypt during their various cold war conflicts so it's something they have form for.


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    NachoBusiness
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    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    Lol the Daily Fail are a reliable source, hilarious.

    It's the Daily Mail and they are an excellent source for breaking news, probably the best and fastest online.

    They were to first to report that these news stories were circulating on social media weren't they, and made it clear the reports were unconfirmed,

    Needless DM sneering as ever.


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    Autonomous Cowherd
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    It's been a terrible day all round :(
    Very unstable the world situation seems.........


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    Junkyard Tom
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    Evil cowardly scumbags attacking a peace march.


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    :cool::cool:
    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Civil war in Turkey won't happen, it's a NATO Muslim nation with a very powerful military and stable civilian democratic government. Equating Kurdish dissent to a Turkish civil is the same as equating the troubles to a British civil war.

    FYP :pac:


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    Nodin
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Evil cowardly scumbags attacking a peace march.


    Indeed, whatever shower are behind it.


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    tomwaterford
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    NachoBusiness wrote: »

    Needless DM sneering as ever.

    No such thing :pac:



    It's laughed at for a good reason...the only thing worse is some of the articles/essays that appear on the indo website


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    gobsh!te
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    NachoBusiness wrote: »
    It's the Daily Mail and they are an excellent source for breaking news, probably the best and fastest online.

    They were to first to report that these news stories were circulating on social media weren't they, and made it clear the reports were unconfirmed,

    Needless DM sneering as ever.

    This is the same as calling someone racist.
    It is in fact judging a book by its cover.

    Judge articles on their content I say, not on who wrote them. Only backward morons would disagree with that.
    Nodin wrote: »
    Indeed, whatever shower are behind it.

    CNN actually offer the possibility that it could be Kurdish separatists...what a joke....


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    puckmymuskie
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    I'd take all the kurds no problem.


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    Iwasfrozen
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Indeed, whatever shower are behind it.
    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Evil cowardly scumbags attacking a peace march.

    Irony overload


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    Junkyard Tom
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Irony overload

    You have a awfully poor understanding of irony.

    Now that's irony.


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    #26
    gobsh!te
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    puckmymuskie wrote: »
    I'd take all the kurds no problem.

    The Kurds are a great people.


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    Will the Prophecies of Nostradamus come true

    Nuclear confrontation in the Middle East

    A major nuclear confrontation will occur in the Middle East. The aggressor will have broken a promise not to use nuclear weapons in warfare. Naval fleets kept in the area by other powers will be scattered in ruins from the violence of the blast.

    http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/Nostradamus/05.html


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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Will the Prophecies of Nostradamus come true
    no


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    Iwasfrozen
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Will the Prophecies of Nostradamus come true

    Nuclear confrontation in the Middle East

    A major nuclear confrontation will occur in the Middle East. The aggressor will have broken a promise not to use nuclear weapons in warfare. Naval fleets kept in the area by other powers will be scattered in ruins from the violence of the blast.

    http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/Nostradamus/05.html
    I'm no expert on Nostrodamus but I highly doubt he would have said "bacteriological", "Hitler"or "nuclear"


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    Nodin
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Will the Prophecies of Nostradamus come true
    ...........

    No, as they're a crock.


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    Guy:Incognito
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    So how bad is god going to let things get before he climbs off whatever heavenly stripper hes dug himself in to, comes down and tells all his followers who believes in the proper one and puts an end to all this ****?

    Though I suppose allowing people to have their own free will to murder,rape and pillage their way around the world is more important than 10 minutes of enlightenment and a lot more peace so thats the true "proof" that he exists :rolleyes:


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