The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

blanch152 · 28-08-2020 9:10pm

Odhinn wrote: »

It's a claim by the Brits, and no details of these killings are mentioned so I suggest your notion of him being a 'serial killer' is rather far fetched. However as an active member of the IRA he would obviously have been involved in attacks on crown forces where there was loss of life.

You can always spot the admirers of sociopaths when they dehumanise people through the use of phrases like the “crown forces”.

Human beings, he was involved in the killing of human beings, who look just like you and I.

McMurphy · 28-08-2020 9:25pm

markodaly wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/the-sinn-fein-td-who-is-linked-to-50-murders-28951973.html

Says in that link he was acquitted.

Here

He was eventually acquitted in London.

Odhinn · 28-08-2020 9:32pm

blanch152 wrote: »

You can always spot the admirers of sociopaths when they dehumanise people through the use of phrases like the “crown forces”.

Human beings, he was involved in the killing of human beings, who look just like you and I.

They were forces of the crown, hence "crown forces".

Yes, its a thing called "War".

RandomViewer · 28-08-2020 9:37pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Bookmarked this post.

I didn't know fifteen years was the limit to discuss past transgressions.

Interesting.

Last tent was 2008, this counting lark seems confusing for some

tikkahunter · 28-08-2020 9:41pm

Odhinn wrote: »

They were forces of the crown, hence "crown forces".

Yes, its a thing called "War".

Protection rackets part of “war” as well?

Truthvader · 28-08-2020 10:24pm

Odhinn wrote: »

They were forces of the crown, hence "crown forces".

Yes, its a thing called "War".

A woman going shopping is not "crown forces" (unless of course Gerry says she is). The thing is not called "war" it is called crime of the lowest most cowardly kind. Still keep celebrating the likes of Desdie Ellis. It helps clarify who Sinn Fein are for newcomers

McMurphy · 29-08-2020 12:43am

blanch152 wrote: »

You can always spot the admirers of sociopaths when they dehumanise people through the use of phrases like the “crown forces”.

Human beings, he was involved in the killing of human beings, who look just like you and I.

Leo dehumanising our Irish humans apparently.

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/944623413011894272?s=19

JohnnyFlash · 29-08-2020 9:45am

I see SF in cahoots with the DUP voted for pay increases for MLA’s and their special advisors and staff.

The same sort of thing they were pretending to be outraged over in the Dáil.

Absolutely awful opposition so far.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53938821

Superfoods · 29-08-2020 12:13pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I see SF in cahoots with the DUP voted for pay increases for MLA’s and their special advisors and staff.

The same sort of thing they were pretending to be outraged over in the Dáil.

Absolutely awful opposition so far.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53938821

Where is the outrage we seen after the latest increase in Ireland?

Edgware · 29-08-2020 2:14pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I see SF in cahoots with the DUP voted for pay increases for MLA’s and their special advisors and staff.

The same sort of thing they were pretending to be outraged over in the Dáil.

Absolutely awful opposition so far.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53938821

They had to vote in favour or it might damage the Peace Process.

padd b1975 · 29-08-2020 2:33pm

Odhinn wrote: »

They were forces of the crown, hence "crown forces".

Yes, its a thing called "War".

Jonathan Ball, Tim Parry and countless others were involved in a war?

Superfoods · 29-08-2020 3:01pm

Very quiet around here today.....

Edgware · 29-08-2020 4:56pm

Superfoods wrote: »

Very quiet around here today.....

Posters are completely washed out after the Big Phil campaign. Replenishing their energy now to be ready for Cushy Butterfield and Posh Boy's indignation tirade once the Dail comes back

Superfoods · 29-08-2020 4:58pm

Edgware wrote: »

Posters are completely washed out after the Big Phil campaign. Replenishing their energy now to be ready for Cushy Butterfield and Posh Boy's indignation tirade once the Dail comes back

Or they realize how two faced Sinn Fein are so they are keeping quiet.

blanch152 · 31-08-2020 9:20pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

There’s still a big story brewing about how a political party operating in Ireland and Northern Ireland can own 50 properties. That’s extraordinary. Where did the money come from to buy these properties considering there’s a ban on overseas political donations in the Republic?

They also have 200 employees, which would cost millions every year in wages, employer PRSI etc. More employees than the Tory party in the UK, of the CDU in Germany. Who are these people, and what do they do all day? Are they the famous 'community activists' we used to hear a lot about?

Getting back on-topic to discuss this point.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/tds-spent-35000-taxpayers-cash-22599157

We are told constantly that Sinn Fein are prudent with their finances and own their own constituency offices, which is why they have 50 properties, so you would expect as a result that they don't need taxpayer money for their constituency buildings? Wrong.

"TDS spent €35,000 of taxpayers’ money sprucing up their constituency offices during the Covid-19 lockdown while people were being told to work from home, the Irish Sunday Mirror can reveal."

Not only that but in a lockdown, they are claiming money to spend on their constituency offices. How could they have got work done during that time?

Snouts in the trough.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

Sinn Fein voters have been taken for fools to think they were any different.

JohnnyFlash · 01-09-2020 11:25am

https://twitter.com/colinparrypeace/status/1300683706177290240?s=21

It’s seeing tweets like these that remind you of the utter atrocities the IRA carried out. A young lad out buying a Mother’s Day card.

The sort of atrocity mandated by sociopaths like Bobby Storey. And it’s widely suspected a SF TD was involved in preparing that bomb.

Not a normal party.

Truthvader · 01-09-2020 12:14pm

Nice video of Sinn Fein councillor abusing her neighbours on the Independent.ie website today. Classy as always. Can't understand why they are not proposing her for Europe instead of Simon Coveny

JohnnyFlash · 01-09-2020 12:27pm

Truthvader wrote: »

Nice video of Sinn Fein councillor abusing her neighbours on the Independent.ie website today. Classy as always. Can't understand why they are not proposing her for Europe instead of Simon Coveny

Would you have a link, dude? Can’t seem to find it. It’s not like they have many councillors.

Truthvader · 01-09-2020 12:53pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Would you have a link, dude? Can’t seem to find it. It’s not like they have many councillors.

https://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/video-sinn-fein-councillor-suspended-after-abusive-incident-with-neighbours-caught-on-camera-34757202.html

Truthvader · 01-09-2020 12:57pm

Truthvader wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/video-sinn-fein-councillor-suspended-after-abusive-incident-with-neighbours-caught-on-camera-34757202.html

Actually this looks as if it dates back to 2016 by the look of it. Not sure why it was posted again. Gone off the independent page now. Assume it was an error - or maybe just the independent stuck for stuff to post

markodaly · 01-09-2020 3:07pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

https://twitter.com/colinparrypeace/status/1300683706177290240?s=21

It’s seeing tweets like these that remind you of the utter atrocities the IRA carried out. A young lad out buying a Mother’s Day card.

The sort of atrocity mandated by sociopaths like Bobby Storey. And it’s widely suspected a SF TD was involved in preparing that bomb.

Not a normal party.

Yea but SF will always say, the IRA are not at fault for that, it was 'something else'

Pkiernan · 01-09-2020 6:56pm

Proud of my first 10000+ thread.

1 post for every 100 litres of IRA washed diesel!

JohnnyFlash · 01-09-2020 8:02pm

markodaly wrote: »

Yea but SF will always say, the IRA are not at fault for that, it was 'something else'

It was the day even their knuckle-dragging scumbag sympathisers realised the PIRA were finished.

How that TD I mentioned can sleep at night is beyond me. A psychopath I suppose. A dirty fücking scumbag.

blanch152 · 01-09-2020 8:54pm

Truthvader wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/video-sinn-fein-councillor-suspended-after-abusive-incident-with-neighbours-caught-on-camera-34757202.html

Which one of those lovely ladies was the Sinn Fein councillor?

markodaly · 02-09-2020 1:29am

Instead of organising military style funerals for ex-terrorists or calling out maimed and injured people due to IRA bombings, perhaps SF should look closer to home and do their job they were elected to do.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/north-s-coronavirus-infection-rate-significantly-higher-than-republic-s-1.4342314

The rate of new coronavirus infections in Northern Ireland is now “significantly higher” than in the Republic of Ireland or the UK as a whole, the North’s chief scientific officer has warned.

So once again, NI is an outlier of how bad they perform.

SF is in government there, so what is up with them? Out of their depth it seems, and people want to put them in government here in the south?

McMurphy · 02-09-2020 7:38am

markodaly wrote: »

Instead of organising military style funerals for ex-terrorists or calling out maimed and injured people due to IRA bombings, perhaps SF should look closer to home and do their job they were elected to do.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/north-s-coronavirus-infection-rate-significantly-higher-than-republic-s-1.4342314

So once again, NI is an outlier of how bad they perform.

SF is in government there, so what is up with them? Out of their depth it seems, and people want to put them in government here in the south?

Did you read the headline only, and then just give up?

3rd paragraph in.

Prof Young told The Irish Times he did not have a “simple explanation” for the increased infection rate in the North, which had performed “much better” than the rest of the UK earlier in the pandemic.

But even more importantly, the 5th paragraph in.

However, while the North’s figures were currently higher than those in the Republic, he said the numbers fluctuated and the outbreaks remained “broadly similar” on both sides of the Border.

blanch152 · 02-09-2020 8:26am

McMurphy wrote: »

Did you read the headline only, and then just give up?

3rd paragraph in.

But even more importantly, the 5th paragraph in.

Like the rest of the UK, they don't count in full in the way that Ireland does, the incidence in the North and the rest of the UK is higher than stated.

We also have had a number of Border clusters with unknown origins, presumably the North.

McMurphy · 02-09-2020 8:49am

blanch152 wrote: »

Like the rest of the UK, they don't count in full in the way that Ireland does, the incidence in the North and the rest of the UK is higher than stated.

Isn't that article discussing infection rates how do we count who has been infected, and who's not been infected any differently

You're maybe thinking about death rates, but that article is about infections, hint - It's in the headlines and it's what the article is about afterall, keep up.

We also have had a number of Border clusters with unknown origins, presumably the North.

"Presumably" why?

Is there some data supporting this presumption, or is it because you might just be talking nonsense?

blanch152 · 02-09-2020 9:21am

McMurphy wrote: »

Isn't that article discussing infection rates how do we count who has been infected, and who's not been infected any differently

You're maybe thinking about death rates, but that article is about infections, hint - It's in the headlines and it's what the article is about afterall, keep up.

"Presumably" why?

Is there some data supporting this presumption, or is it because you might just be talking nonsense?

No, not talking nonsense, before the recent outbreaks in meat factories, some of the higher incidence counties were on the border. However, let's face this, the real story won't be known until afterwards when the statistics, the method of recording, the amount of testing, the excess death rates etc., can be analysed and parsed.

markodaly · 02-09-2020 9:43am

McMurphy wrote: »

Did you read the headline only,

No, I read this bit.

The rate of new coronavirus infections in Northern Ireland is now “significantly higher” than in the Republic of Ireland or the UK as a whole, the North’s chief scientific officer has warned.

Why is the infection rate significantly higher in the North?

McMurphy · 02-09-2020 9:53am

markodaly wrote: »

No, I read this bit.

Why is the infection rate significantly higher in the North?

I'm not an Epidemiologist, so you're on the road to nowhere asking me the likes of that, but you may stop spoofing at this stage, because had you of read the article, you couldn't have missed that part where it states.

However, while the North’s figures were currently higher than those in the Republic, he said the numbers fluctuated and the outbreaks remained “broadly similar” on both sides of the Border.

Headline = shiny thing to a magpie.

blanch152 · 04-09-2020 11:17am

It hasn't gone away, you know....

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/watch-foster-voices-frustration-at-sinn-fein-over-damage-from-storey-funeral-39501997.html

"“Sinn Fein pushed very hard in the Republic of Ireland to have people acknowledge there was wrongdoing in relation to going to a golf dinner, but I think we all saw the scenes in west Belfast in relation to that funeral and the fact that regulations and guidance were breached at that time,” she said.

The First Minister added: “There are investigations ongoing both at a police level and an Assembly level as well and we’ll have to see the outcome of all of that.

“But I think it would help if there was an acknowledgement that there has been damage done to confidence and to messaging in and around Covid-19.”

Once again, as they did with their grandstanding over an Irish languages act for three years, Sinn Fein are going to do serious damage to the Northern Assembly with their antics. Is it any wonder that not a single party in the South ever entered serious talks on a coalition government with them?

Superfoods · 04-09-2020 11:33am

blanch152 wrote: »

It hasn't gone away, you know....

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/watch-foster-voices-frustration-at-sinn-fein-over-damage-from-storey-funeral-39501997.html

"“Sinn Fein pushed very hard in the Republic of Ireland to have people acknowledge there was wrongdoing in relation to going to a golf dinner, but I think we all saw the scenes in west Belfast in relation to that funeral and the fact that regulations and guidance were breached at that time,” she said.

The First Minister added: “There are investigations ongoing both at a police level and an Assembly level as well and we’ll have to see the outcome of all of that.

“But I think it would help if there was an acknowledgement that there has been damage done to confidence and to messaging in and around Covid-19.”

Once again, as they did with their grandstanding over an Irish languages act for three years, Sinn Fein are going to do serious damage to the Northern Assembly with their antics. Is it any wonder that not a single party in the South ever entered serious talks on a coalition government with them?

Sinn Fein wont be happy till they bring the assembly down again.

JohnnyFlash · 04-09-2020 11:35am

Superfoods wrote: »

Sinn Fein wont be happy till they bring the assembly down again.

The DUP and SF are two of the most incompetent, belligerent, and inwardly looking political parties you could imagine.

blanch152 · 04-09-2020 12:45pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The DUP and SF are two of the most incompetent, belligerent, and inwardly looking political parties you could imagine.

Agreed, and nasty with it too.

maccored · 04-09-2020 12:50pm

jaysus lads ye's are sounding desperate there with the trolling

JohnnyFlash · 04-09-2020 12:55pm

maccored wrote: »

jaysus lads ye's are sounding desperate there with the trolling

It’s not trolling, dude. The two main parties in Norn Iron have way more in common than they think. Blaming almost everything on ‘dem uns’ is a common foundation on which everything else is built.

They are both parties built on the principles of hate, mistrust, parochialism, and belligerence.

maccored · 04-09-2020 12:57pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It’s not trolling, dude. The two main parties in Norn Iron have way more in common than they think. Blaming almost everything on ‘dem uns’ is a common foundation on which everything else is built.

They are both parties built on the principles of hate, mistrust, parochialism, and belligerence.

each to their own I suppose. reading over the past few pages it just seems to be a shinner slagfest, waiting for someone to bite. Yous'll be waiting, dude.

blanch152 · 04-09-2020 12:59pm

maccored wrote: »

each to their own I suppose. reading over the past few pages it just seems to be a shinner slagfest, waiting for someone to bite. Yous'll be waiting, dude.

Unlike other threads desperately trying to stay relevant, there is something of more substance than an occasional tweet to comment on. Here is an update with links from this morning, for example.

blanch152 wrote: »

It hasn't gone away, you know....

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/watch-foster-voices-frustration-at-sinn-fein-over-damage-from-storey-funeral-39501997.html

"“Sinn Fein pushed very hard in the Republic of Ireland to have people acknowledge there was wrongdoing in relation to going to a golf dinner, but I think we all saw the scenes in west Belfast in relation to that funeral and the fact that regulations and guidance were breached at that time,” she said.

The First Minister added: “There are investigations ongoing both at a police level and an Assembly level as well and we’ll have to see the outcome of all of that.

“But I think it would help if there was an acknowledgement that there has been damage done to confidence and to messaging in and around Covid-19.”

Once again, as they did with their grandstanding over an Irish languages act for three years, Sinn Fein are going to do serious damage to the Northern Assembly with their antics. Is it any wonder that not a single party in the South ever entered serious talks on a coalition government with them?

landofthetree · 05-09-2020 2:27pm

Sinn Fein voted for the legislation a few days ago.

Now they are complaining about it.

https://gript.ie/sinn-fein-vote-for-the-new-laws-for-pubs-that-they-also-described-as-draconian/

Triangle · 05-09-2020 5:26pm

Odhinn wrote: »

They were forces of the crown, hence "crown forces".

Yes, its a thing called "War".

It's called terrorism, war is between nations.

And my mother missed being included (involuntarily) in this so called war when a bomb went off in Belfast.
You can paint it any way you like but it's still terrorism.

smurgen · 05-09-2020 5:41pm

Triangle wrote: »

It's called terrorism, war is between nations.

And my mother missed being included (involuntarily) in this so called war when a bomb went off in Belfast.
You can paint it any way you like but it's still terrorism.

There wasn't a war because Dublin abandoned Catholics in the North. The IRA filled the void where the state should have protected them. Good to see Europe however are looking for answers for the British. FFG are too cowardly to ask.

"Council of Europe committee presses UK government over Pat Finucane probe" https://jrnl.ie/5196075

rdwight · 05-09-2020 6:12pm

smurgen wrote: »

There wasn't a war because Dublin abandoned Catholics in the North. The IRA filled the void where the state should have protected them. Good to see Europe however are looking for answers for the British. FFG are too cowardly to ask.

"Council of Europe committee presses UK government over Pat Finucane probe" https://jrnl.ie/5196075

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/day-the-troops-marched-in-to-nationalist-welcome-1.216524

rdwight · 05-09-2020 6:22pm

McMurphy wrote: »

I need more to go on here? Who broke the same guideline's [sic] as Phil Hogan?

Not sure if Big Phil actually took selfies while breaking guidelines, but he definitely paid a higher price than darling Michelle.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/07/02/news/michelle-o-neill-says-funeral-selfie-should-not-have-happened--1992518/

McMurphy · 05-09-2020 6:46pm

rdwight wrote: »

Not sure if Big Phil actually took selfies while breaking guidelines, but he definitely paid a higher price than darling Michelle.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/07/02/news/michelle-o-neill-says-funeral-selfie-should-not-have-happened--1992518/

Big Phil didn't lose his job because he broke social distancing measures did he

blanch152 · 05-09-2020 7:32pm

landofthetree wrote: »

Sinn Fein voted for the legislation a few days ago.

Now they are complaining about it.

https://gript.ie/sinn-fein-vote-for-the-new-laws-for-pubs-that-they-also-described-as-draconian/

Utterly two-faced from Sinn Fein, but normal service isn’t really news.

FrancieBrady · 05-09-2020 7:44pm

rdwight wrote: »

Not sure if Big Phil actually took selfies while breaking guidelines, but he definitely paid a higher price than darling Michelle.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/07/02/news/michelle-o-neill-says-funeral-selfie-should-not-have-happened--1992518/

Big Phil lost his job because he lied to his bosses.

dundalkfc10 · 05-09-2020 7:55pm

Mary Lou had porridge for breakfast, Pearse listened to the Wolfe Tones in his car.

For more tune into boards tomorrow

maccored · 05-09-2020 11:10pm

blanch152 wrote: »

The First Minister added: “There are investigations ongoing both at a police level and an Assembly level as well and we’ll have to see the outcome of all of that.

ah - so eventually she's being investigated for her heating scheme scandal. Glad to hear it. (that was sarcasm btw)

JohnnyFlash · 06-09-2020 3:06am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rzjXTs62cI

The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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