Third world water for Dublin City

Straffan1979 · 05-11-2019 2:39pm #1

Do people realise that the water collected at Leixlip contains very significant quantities of treated sewage discharge from every plant upstream of Leixlip all the way to Ballymore Eustace; one of the largest treatment plants in the country discharges at Osberstown near Naas into the the Liffey and this water is then used again through the plant at Leixslip- this water includes all noxious chemicals the whole of Kildare flushes and washes down their sinks! That's what we're drinking in the Dublin City 2019.

I'm surprised is this hasn't been highlighted before- an accident waiting to happen and I'd say alarms were ignored for many years; we need new proper purpose built reservoir in the midlands for the city- Liffey water with sewage discharge and agricultural run off is a public health scandal ; at least abstracted water upstream of Ballymore Eustace is some way 'pure' and that supplies most of kildare /south Dublin afaik- third world stuff at Leixlip.

Uncle Charlie · 05-11-2019 2:47pm

Nobody is talking about the pressure Mass Immigration is putting on our water system.

whippet · 05-11-2019 2:49pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Nobody is talking about the pressure Mass Immigration is putting on our water system.

That’s probably because it’s isn’t putting pressure on it.

Until we as a Society we accept that unless we are willing to adequately fund a public water system we will have to accept substandard services

05-11-2019 2:51pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Nobody is talking about the pressure Mass Immigration is putting on our water system.

That's because the use gravity and pumps to pressurise the system, not stacked up foreigners.

RobbingBandit · 05-11-2019 2:53pm

It's lexlip just think all that cryptosporidium was once an eyes wide shut shindig

Uncle Charlie · 05-11-2019 2:54pm

whippet wrote: »

That’s probably because it’s isn’t putting pressure on it.

Until we as a Society we accept that unless we are willing to adequately fund a public water system we will have to accept substandard services

So a 20% increase in the population over the past 20 years has no effect on the water system ?

I suppose Immigrants must import their water from outside Ireland:rolleyes:

VinLieger · 05-11-2019 3:19pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

So a 20% increase in the population over the past 20 years has no effect on the water system ?

I suppose Immigrants must import their water from outside Ireland:rolleyes:

LOL immigrants really are responsible for everything aren't they :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Produce a single piece of factual evidence to show immigration SPECIFICALLY is causing problems with our water supply and people maybe wont consider you to be a racist troll

dan1895 · 05-11-2019 3:21pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

So a 20% increase in the population over the past 20 years has no effect on the water system ?

I suppose Immigrants must import their water from outside Ireland:rolleyes:

Immigrants! Even when it was the bears putting pressure on our water system I knew it was them.

ToBeFrank123 · 05-11-2019 3:27pm

Most of the water treatment infrastructure probably dates from at least 40 years ago when water charges were the norm.

Once abolished in 1977, services and infrastructure likely went downhill and there was no money available to make the huge upgrades required.

Idbatterim · 05-11-2019 3:34pm

Look. This country may be third world in many ways. Fifty percent marginal rate of tax, 23% vat rate etc. but at the end of the day , we have the worlds greatest welfare system. Protecting “ de vulnerable “ sure fcuk the rest of them !

Guy:Incognito · 05-11-2019 3:35pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

So a 20% increase in the population over the past 20 years has no effect on the water system ?

I suppose Immigrants must import their water from outside Ireland:rolleyes:

Do the immigrants contribute zero money to the economy?

If , as a percentage, they contribute the same in taxes as the population that was already here, then they are putting no more strain on it than the rest of us.

ronaneire · 05-11-2019 4:01pm

Straffan1979 wrote: »

Do people realise that the water collected at Leixlip contains very significant quantities of treated sewage discharge from every plant upstream of Leixlip all the way to Ballymore Eustace; one of the largest treatment plants in the country discharges at Osberstown near Naas into the the Liffey and this water is then used again through the plant at Leixslip- this water includes all noxious chemicals the whole of Kildare flushes and washes down their sinks! That's what we're drinking in the Dublin City 2019.

I'm surprised is this hasn't been highlighted before- an accident waiting to happen and I'd say alarms were ignored for many years; we need new proper purpose built reservoir in the midlands for the city- Liffey water with sewage discharge and agricultural run off is a public health scandal ; at least abstracted water upstream of Ballymore Eustace is some way 'pure' and that supplies most of kildare /south Dublin afaik- third world stuff at Leixlip.

Have you ever been to another city in the world and drank their tap water or brushed your teeth and rinsed out your mouth? Have you ever thought where their water comes from?

Our Neighbours in the UK have done this for years!!

Uncle Charlie · 05-11-2019 4:09pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Do the immigrants contribute zero money to the economy?

If , as a percentage, they contribute the same in taxes as the population that was already here, then they are putting no more strain on it than the rest of us.

Many of them work in low wage jobs pay little or no tax and that's before we get onto the illegals.

Uncle Charlie · 05-11-2019 4:11pm

VinLieger wrote: »

LOL immigrants really are responsible for everything aren't they :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Produce a single piece of factual evidence to show immigration SPECIFICALLY is causing problems with our water supply and people maybe wont consider you to be a racist troll

Its simple supply and demand.

The more people you have the more pressure is put on the system.

Its not rocket science.

I don't blame the Immigrants them selves but the Politicians who are responsible for Mass Immigration.

05-11-2019 5:04pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Many of them work in low wage jobs pay little or no tax and that's before we get onto the illegals.

I know quite a few in well paid jobs or married with kids here.

Your coming at our water supply and sewage problems from the wrong angle completely.

mikhail · 05-11-2019 5:06pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Nobody is talking about the pressure Mass Immigration is putting on our water system.

That's it. I've had it up to here with these damned culchies coming to Dublin and taking our jobs. :pac:

Fr_Dougal · 05-11-2019 5:07pm

Irish Water were warned about this by the EPA on several occasions, over six months ago. They did nothing to remediate the issue.

crossman47 · 05-11-2019 5:14pm

ronaneire wrote: »

Have you ever been to another city in the world and drank their tap water or brushed your teeth and rinsed out your mouth? Have you ever thought where their water comes from?

Our Neighbours in the UK have done this for years!!

Indeed. I remember reading the water in London has been through the system numerous times.

JohnnyFlash · 05-11-2019 5:15pm

‘ NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY’ was the battle cry of the morons who thought they should get a precious resource sent to them and disposed of for nothing.

Boggles · 05-11-2019 5:16pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Nobody is talking about the pressure Mass Immigration is putting on our water system.

Straffan1979 · 05-11-2019 5:24pm

ronaneire wrote: »

Have you ever been to another city in the world and drank their tap water or brushed your teeth and rinsed out your mouth? Have you ever thought where their water comes from?

Our Neighbours in the UK have done this for years!!

And that's the reason we should do it- because the UK does-we don't need to use this type of water- the midlands is currently underwater.

The obvious solution is to use some of our cutaway bog to built a large resevoir capable of alleviating flooding and storing large buffers of water with an associated modern treatment plant,

What's goin into the rivers and heading downstream is undergoing primary/secondary treatment at best and we want to treat that low grade water low down in a river basin using archaic plants- we should be all paying for water and working towards a proper system of water treatment.

Cina · 05-11-2019 5:27pm

So the first response to a discussion about our inadequate water treatment system was to blame d'immigrants.

Sigh.

cfuserkildare · 05-11-2019 5:40pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

‘ NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY’ was the battle cry of the morons who thought they should get a precious resource sent to them and disposed of for nothing.

If you think back, VAT and Road Tax were bith raised by 2% to pay for water,

So we already Are paying for this supposedly Free Resource!!

05-11-2019 5:47pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Nobody is talking about the pressure Mass Immigration is putting on our water system.

I thought this was a witty troll, exactly what you'd expect some dope on boards to conceivably write about any topic, but seeing as you continued to double down on it, I'm not so sure

dubrov · 05-11-2019 5:52pm

Forget the immigrants, think of all the pets out there putting pressure on the water supply.
I've even seen some pet dogs drink direct from rivers and lakes before we even get a chance to use it.

Marcos · 05-11-2019 5:54pm

The EPA issued a report on the amount of water being used after the Ringsend spillage in July.

The tone of the EPA statement is worth noting.

The agency said it had "repeatedly highlighted" that Ringsend was failing to meet Irish and EU standards due to capacity problems.

It said: "The plant has a capacity to treat waste water from a population equivalent of 1.64 million. The load entering the plant is from a population equivalent of 2.3 million."

Now this points to either of two things. First that Irish people use so much extra water than those in other countries. Something not shown in statistics, which show the opposite Irish users use approximately 80 litres compared to 121 litres in Germany and 114 litres in Denmark.

Or, there are more people in Dublin than are shown on the official statistics. So where are the extra six hundred thousand coming from? I don't remember the last census saying that the greater Dublin area had a population of 2.3 million. They can't all be tourists surely?

suicide_circus · 05-11-2019 5:58pm

come on now OP, immigration is 100% positive. nothing negative can be associated with it.

Annd9 · 05-11-2019 6:12pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

‘ NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY’ was the battle cry of the morons who thought they should get a precious resource sent to them and disposed of for nothing.

Absolute Nonsense ! The plant in Lexlip had a major revamp less then 10 years ago (I worked on it ) this was a system failure and nothing to do with funding . We won't let the truth get in the way of your story though .....

Mr. teddywinkles · 05-11-2019 6:26pm

Annd9 wrote: »

Absolute Nonsense ! The plant in Lexlip had a major revamp less then 10 years ago (I worked on it ) this was a system failure and nothing to do with funding . We won't let the truth get in the way of your story though .....

Wonder is water charges going to be back on the cards. Oh look our infrastructure is ****e.
More monies please.

riffmongous · 05-11-2019 6:31pm

ronaneire wrote: »

Have you ever been to another city in the world and drank their tap water or brushed your teeth and rinsed out your mouth? Have you ever thought where their water comes from?

Our Neighbours in the UK have done this for years!!

Mine comes straight from mountain springs, piped over 100kms to the city

blanch152 · 05-11-2019 6:59pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

‘ NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY’ was the battle cry of the morons who thought they should get a precious resource sent to them and disposed of for nothing.

And this is the key problem.

Irish Water was designed to be a commercial semi-State body that could fund itself through borrowings. That required water charges to give it independent funding. Without this arrangement, funding for improving the infrastructure would not be available and inevitably there would be largescale problems with the Dublin water supply.

In the later years of the last decade, this was understood and supported by all of the main parties (excepting whatever PBP were then called). One by one, starting with Sinn Fein, then Fianna Fail, Labour, and eventually Fine Gael, this policy and position was abandoned (the Greens remain somewhat ambivalent) and we are where we are today.

Third world water for Dublin City

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