Gameweek 10 Match Day thread

Ginger n Lemon · 28-11-2020 3:47pm

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

Hold on, so because he was trying to clear the ball, it isn't a foul? Ah stop :O

Well he definitely didnt look to take Welbeck out.

That is why its not clear and obvious. That is why Ref didnt give anything until being told to go look at the screen.

In game context - that is not a penalty. And, now you have to be fair, did many Brighton players complain? no. In fact only Danny was there, who did after the game said "soft penalty".... which was actually very funny

corcaigh07 · 28-11-2020 3:48pm

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

I was on about last season.

Liverpool were +2 from VAR last season. Is that excessive?

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 3:51pm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Well he definitely didnt look to take Welbeck out.

That is why its not clear and obvious. That is why Ref didnt give anything until being told to go look at the screen.

In game context - that is not a penalty. And, now you have to be fair, did many Brighton players complain? no. In fact only Danny was there, who did after the game said "soft penalty".... which was actually very funny

Why did you put the dots in there, why not finish the sentence, when he said that it's still a penalty albeit soft?

But the ref didn't have to give the penalty - why do you seem to think that he 100% had to when he sees the monitor - is it because, when he sees the monitor he then realises that it's a foul and hence a penalty? Robbo swung his leg wildly, misses the ball and kicks Welbeck.

gammygils · 28-11-2020 3:51pm

9 pointer for Jota

Justifies my -4 already

CSF · 28-11-2020 3:52pm

Lundstram wrote: »

Question you have to ask, would that have been given as a foul if it happened outside the box? For me, no it would not.

Welbeck cuts across him as he was attempting to clear so you could also argue Robertson was fouled.

Think we can all agree VAR is a load of sh1te.

I mean, part of the problem is that the fans and the media were weekly begging the ref on the pitch to start going over to the monitors to do the reviews.

Did people really not believe that this was the kind of sh*t that was gonna result from it?

slimshady007 · 28-11-2020 3:53pm

At least Salah keeps his clean sheet point . . . . it's the small things in life ðŸ˜¬

siblers · 28-11-2020 3:54pm

gammygils wrote: »

9 pointer for Jota Justifies my -4 already

Brought him in too for a hit. Eases the Robbo pain a bit

Irishphotodesk · 28-11-2020 3:54pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

So taking a wild kick, and missing the ball, and catching the opponent, in your eyes is not a foul? It's a foul plain and simple.

Did you think the Ben White challenge on Jota where he won the ball was a foul? the one where Robbo would have got an assist in Mane was onside? Didn't notice many Robbo owners complaining ?

Listening to crouch on BT, 10yrs ago the game just continued on.

Looking at it from the camera angle behind robbo there is contact ...as to if it’s enough contact to warrant a penalty, I do think so, but do I think VAR should have intervened, no....maybe players today are too soft or maybe the rules of the game have changed so much that players dictate the decisions.

When was the last time a player was booked for “simulation” ? I’m not in any way suggesting that happened in this game, just speaking in general .

Taking each of your questions, even the wording of the initial question shows a bias .... a wild kick ? It was an attempt to clear the ball, do you describe ALL kicks that do not connect with the ball as a wild kick? Just because another player gets to the ball a fraction of a second earlier doesn’t make it a wild kick.

The Ben white - jota ... I didn’t see.

The mane offside, camera angle clearly showed it was an offside.

I am a Liverpool fan, I’m annoyed by the decision, do I think it’s worth debating to and fro about the multitude of other things that VAR didn’t intervene with, no, it’s pointless debating it because we cannot effect the decision.

Personally I think VAR has its place, but some of the decisions made are completely destroying the game as I knew it, it was a physical contact sport, that’s all gone now.

Scorpion Sting · 28-11-2020 3:55pm

corcaigh07 wrote: »

Liverpool were +2 from VAR last season. Is that excessive?

I would argue it was a bit more than that. However, let’s move on from this VAR discussion now. The penalty was awarded and nothing we can do about it.

Shanotheslayer · 28-11-2020 3:57pm

Mahrez time for a hat trick baby

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 4:00pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Mahrez Torres time for a hat trick baby

Fixed that for ya

Ginger n Lemon · 28-11-2020 4:00pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

Why did you put the dots in there, why not finish the sentence, when he said that it's still a penalty albeit soft?

But the ref didn't have to give the penalty - why do you seem to think that he 100% had to when he sees the monitor - is it because, when he sees the monitor he then realises that it's a foul and hence a penalty? Robbo swung his leg wildly, misses the ball and kicks Welbeck.

Welbeck said "its a soft penalty, but there is VAR so it is a penalty"

I didnt say he has to give the penalty 100% when he sees the monitor.

Now that I answered your questions... do you agree if we spend 5 - 10 mins per game on VAR reviews the game is, lets just say significantly worse? Not to mention, as Welbeck said, we are indirectly encouraging players to go down shouting in the box anytime there is any sort of contact. Again makes the game worse?

Irishphotodesk · 28-11-2020 4:00pm

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

I would argue it was a bit more than that. However, let’s move on from this VAR discussion now. The penalty was awarded and nothing we can do about it.

But but but.... on to the next game.

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 4:06pm

mahrez (kdb)

siblers · 28-11-2020 4:06pm

Mahrez. {KDB)

Sorry!

Shanotheslayer · 28-11-2020 4:07pm

siblers wrote: »

Jesus. {KDB)

You change that right now. I even saw the goal and this post scared me thinking I was wrong :pac:

Scorpion Sting · 28-11-2020 4:08pm

siblers wrote: »

Jesus. {KDB)

I believe it was Mahrez.

NoviGlitzko · 28-11-2020 4:08pm

The decision to wait for KDB until next week looks a silly one. Looks ominous for Burnley now.

siblers · 28-11-2020 4:08pm

Feic sorry!

Not sure what I was seeing

Cartman78 · 28-11-2020 4:08pm

Time for Dyche to unleash Taylor from defensive duties and play him up top I reckon.

I'll be happy now if he returns a non-minus score

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 4:09pm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Now that I answered your questions... do you agree if we spend 5 - 10 mins per game on VAR reviews the game is, lets just say significantly worse? Not to mention, as Welbeck said, we are indirectly encouraging players to go down shouting in the box anytime there is any sort of contact. Again makes the game worse?

but we arent spending 5/10 mins for penalty decision - most are for drawing lines for offside - which is something they are going to have to change somehow.

shmeee · 28-11-2020 4:10pm

siblers wrote: »

Mahrez. {KDB)

Sorry!

Yes. KDB in for a hit already paid off.

More please now Kevin.

Green&Red · 28-11-2020 4:12pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Mahrez time for a hat trick baby

I’m also on the Mahrez train, great start

ScummyMan · 28-11-2020 4:14pm

Bit weird of Burnley to pick today to try and play a high line and attacking football

Could be a hockeying

ShagNastii · 28-11-2020 4:19pm

Think I’ve been “too smart” getting in Vardy and putting the armband on him.

Had KDB pegged all week.

Shanotheslayer · 28-11-2020 4:20pm

ShagNastii wrote: »

Had KDB pegged all week.

Nice.

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 4:21pm

Mahrez again (might be Walker assist)

Shanotheslayer · 28-11-2020 4:22pm

Tyvm Mahrez

corcaigh07 · 28-11-2020 4:23pm

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

I would argue it was a bit more than that. However, let’s move on from this VAR discussion now. The penalty was awarded and nothing we can do about it.

You can argue all you want or try to close it down when it suits you, Liverpool were +2 in VAR decisions last season.

shmeee · 28-11-2020 4:23pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

Mahrez again (might be Walker assist)

With Pepe roulette and I'd enough gamble's in my line to try get him in but was flagged by so many.

This could be a blow out.

ScummyMan · 28-11-2020 4:25pm

corcaigh07 wrote: »

You can argue all you want or try to close it down when it suits you, Liverpool were +2 in VAR decisions last season.

Let it go for the love of God, I'm sure there's plenty of lads over on the soccer forum you can discuss last season's VAR decisions with

shmeee · 28-11-2020 4:25pm

Maher 2.4% ownership, wow! Huge differential

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 4:26pm

Torres goal ruled out for offside

SlickRic · 28-11-2020 4:27pm

Transferring in Robbo over Walker sums the season up.

ScummyMan · 28-11-2020 4:27pm

Burnley's new keeper not exactly inspiring confidence

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 4:30pm

Be interesting if city get a penalty - if KdB takes it or would Mahrez....and what that would mean going forward

Shanotheslayer · 28-11-2020 4:31pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

Be interesting if city get a penalty - if KdB takes it or would let Mahrez....

Mahrez would probably try a Paneka and miss so I'd rather he just left it

siblers · 28-11-2020 4:40pm

KDB has been disappointing so far.

siblers · 28-11-2020 4:40pm

siblers wrote: »

KDB has been disappointing so far.

Mendy (KDB)

:pac:

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 4:40pm

Mendy (KdB)

NoviGlitzko · 28-11-2020 4:42pm

Enough Kevin, enough.

siblers · 28-11-2020 4:42pm

Mendy's first goal for City which I find surprising

Shanotheslayer · 28-11-2020 4:44pm

Just need Mahrez to outscore KDB and I'll be happy.

ShagNastii · 28-11-2020 4:45pm

siblers wrote: »

Mendy's first goal for City which I find surprising

He was an absolute FPL killer the year before last. Could be worth another look.

siblers · 28-11-2020 4:50pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Just need Mahrez to outscore KDB and I'll be happy.

If KDB could get one more assist I'd be delighted

patmac · 28-11-2020 4:52pm

Had just enough to do Mahrez (who was rubbish for the last 5 games) to KDB who I captained I really suck at this game.

Mr.Prodston · 28-11-2020 4:53pm

Torres looking like a bad impulse buy :pac:

Shanotheslayer · 28-11-2020 4:54pm

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Torres looking like a bad impulse buy :pac:

Chelsea is that you? :pac:

manual_man · 28-11-2020 4:57pm

Was 0.1 short for KdB. Got Sterling instead. May have to -4 to immediately remedy it.

Ace2007 · 28-11-2020 5:00pm

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Torres looking like a bad impulse buy :pac:

Ha yea, thought he has had one goal ruled out for offside, and had another great chance at 0-0

So far, though, was better shout than Foden

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