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Veganuary 2021

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  • #52
    NcdJd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    And export nearly all of the beef and dairy we produce. People in glass houses...
    auspicious wrote: »
    You beat me to it. 470,000 tonnes of the 520,000 tonnes of beef produced here is for exportation.
    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And Irish people still think they’re eating Irish beef. Ha.

    Where does all the beef consumed in Ireland come from ?
    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yeah, he nearly had us there!

    A guy asks a simple question to a post about shortages of vegan food on shelves due possibly to brexit and these are the responses. Insecure much ? Considering one of ye accused farmers of being insecure ?


  • #53
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    NcdJd wrote: »
    A guy asks a simple question to a post about shortages of vegan food on shelves due possibly to brexit and these are the responses. Insecure much ? Considering one of ye accused farmers of being insecure ?

    It was a loaded question.


  • #54
    auspicious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭auspicious


    NcdJd wrote: »
    A guy asks a simple question to a post about shortages of vegan food on shelves due possibly to brexit and these are the responses. Insecure much ?

    It's from a farmer with history of undermining/ challenging veganism. She's got form.
    Insecure? Vegans are probably the least insecure of any minority. We are secure in our belief and knowing that annually more and more people are taking a better ethical stance and becoming vegan makes it ever sweeter.


  • #55
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Insecure much ? Considering one of ye accused farmers of being insecure ?

    Inflammatory rhetoric that adds nothing to the discussion

    Everyone else, back on topic please

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  • #56
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And Irish people still think they’re eating Irish beef. Ha.

    Where does all the beef consumed in Ireland come from ?


    If you work out from the amount quoted above that is not exported it leaves a shockingly high amount of beef per person. Especially if you account for a certain percentage being vegan, vegetarian or just not liking beef as their source of meat.

    It is a simple sum, which I'll not work out here as it would be fairly inappropriate and off topic.


  • #57
    purplesnack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭purplesnack


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Well since the subject of Biodiversity has been mentioned in such a depressing way on here, I'll give you some optimism. I’ve planted so far this month 237 native Irish trees, including a fruit hedge for the local wildlife. Also have ordered from fruithill farm sunflower and phacelia seed for my pollination patches for bees and hoverflies. I'm also going to create about an acre of wildflower meadow but that's still under investigation. Its hard to find good information on native grasses.

    Fortunately on the actual meat eating end of things I haven't been able to cut down but I've ordered all my veg seeds for my polytunnel. Have a few nice tomatoe varieties ordered that I'm looking forward to growing them as the variety I grew last year was very disappointing.

    Myself and 2 others spent three days over Christmas planting 750 native Irish trees. In my own patch, I have 300 native trees in my boundary hedge, 40 native trees in two groves, two small ponds, one area which I've left go wild, a small wildflower patch, 7 raised beds and a glasshouse for growing my own veg, and all this on a half acre (which I count myself very lucky to have). Vegans do their part for biodiversity too.


  • #58
    NcdJd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    purplesnack wrote: »
    Myself and 2 others spent three days over Christmas planting 750 native Irish trees. In my own patch, I have 300 native trees in my boundary hedge, 40 native trees in two groves, two small ponds, one area which I've left go wild, a small wildflower patch, 7 raised beds and a glasshouse for growing my own veg, and all this on a half acre (which I count myself very lucky to have). Vegans do their part for biodiversity too.

    Fair play to you purplesnack, impressive work there. More of that is needed.

    Edit to add, I think people moaning about the state of the environment is the wrong attitude to have. I see it on twitter, in the media and to a small extent on boards. It will not fix things and only makes some people sit back, despair and wait for some grand plan or saviour to come along that will never materialise. Practical steps like what you have done and what others are doing is the only way to go. Everyone, no matter how small or insignificant can make a difference to their local environment.


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Fair play to you purplesnack, impressive work there. More of that is needed.

    Edit to add, I think people moaning about the state of the environment is the wrong attitude to have. I see it on twitter, in the media and to a small extent on boards. It will not fix things and only makes some people sit back, despair and wait for some grand plan or saviour to come along that will never materialise. Practical steps like what you have done and what others are doing is the only way to go. Everyone, no matter how small or insignificant can make a difference to their local environment.

    Couldn’t agree more and biggest and best step we can all take is going vegan.

    There is no better way to make a difference to our environment.

    Hence the thread and all the people that are exploring vegan options.


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    emaherx wrote: »
    If you work out from the amount quoted above that is not exported it leaves a shockingly high amount of beef per person. Especially if you account for a certain percentage being vegan, vegetarian or just not liking beef as their source of meat.

    It is a simple sum, which I'll not work out here as it would be fairly inappropriate and off topic.

    It can’t leave that much if Ireland are annually importing between 30,000 and 45,000 tonnes of beef.

    So they are importing nearly as much as they keep from their own production.

    So if eating beef in Ireland you’re as likely to be eating imported beef as you are to be eating Irish produced beef.

    They are all pretty simple sums too.


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  • #61
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    When you think of all the ready meals and processed food that contain beef, a huge percentage of that would come from other countries. The likes of M&S, lidl and aldi etc. sell a lot of that stuff.


  • #62
    Gary kk
    Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Gary kk


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It can’t leave that much if Ireland are annually importing between 30,000 and 45,000 tonnes of beef.

    So they are importing nearly as much as they keep from their own production.

    So if eating beef in Ireland you’re as likely to be eating imported beef as you are to be eating Irish produced beef.

    They are all pretty simple sums too.

    That is a question for the supermarkets or restaurants not the farmers. The product is there if they choose to use it.


  • #63
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It can’t leave that much if Ireland are annually importing between 30,000 and 45,000 tonnes of beef.

    So they are importing nearly as much as they keep from their own production.

    So if eating beef in Ireland you’re as likely to be eating imported beef as you are to be eating Irish produced beef.

    They are all pretty simple sums too.

    Yes, both very simple but one dose not take from the other. Also there are very simple explanations that you are overlooking including reimporting of processed products from plants NI and the UK.

    I'm not entirely sure of the relevance to this thread though, if you want to discuss it further may I suggest a new thread where I'd be happy to discuss in detail?


  • #64
    HansKroenke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭HansKroenke


    DiFontaine's are doing 25% off orders over 25euro today, collection or delivery. That's the super large pizza for 22.50euro! Love their vegan ricotta.


  • #65
    Bigbooty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 229 ✭✭Bigbooty


    Lidl vegan brought out a load of vegan stuff in Jan..that Vemondo frozen pizza was surprisingly proper good for 2.50.


  • #66
    adelcrowsmel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    Has anyone found the Applewood cheese anywhere in stock since?? I'm really missing it from my local tesco... had gotten into the habit of a weekly toastie!!


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  • #67
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I was looking for it in supervalu the other day and none there, it's usually there. It's British so it may be something to do with Brexit and supplies.


  • #68
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    I was looking for it in supervalu the other day and none there, it's usually there. It's British so it may be something to do with Brexit and supplies.

    Brexit has definitely impacted things but I reckon they will sort it out eventually. They just needed longer than 5 years to prepare :pac:


  • #69
    HansKroenke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭HansKroenke


    Great to see a HSE sponsored ad campaign highlighting the links to increased risk of colorectal cancer and eating processed meat. In addition, they also highlight the link to a reduced risk of certain cancers from whole food, plant based foods! It is part of a very reputable and credible group of health bodies which hopefully influences people to the damage they can cause to their health by eating meat.

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  • #70
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Finally an excuse to give myself a brown rice enema!


  • #71
    HansKroenke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭HansKroenke


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Finally an excuse to give myself a brown rice enema!

    Whatever you're into!


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  • #72
    adelcrowsmel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    I was looking for it in supervalu the other day and none there, it's usually there. It's British so it may be something to do with Brexit and supplies.

    My local Tesco has a sticker/sign on the shelf today saying Applewood Vegan cheese is expected back in stock on the 23rd of Feb....fingers crossed!!


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