Asylum Seekers Getting Apartments in Ballinamore - mod warning in OP (18/10)

Eric Cartman · 23-10-2019 12:44pm

PostWoke wrote: »

Completely incorrect, in fact from what I'm seeing, this website is riddled with them and is probably their primary stomping ground.

Related breaking news;

Will be interested to see where these individuals hailed from, and if the driver is actually guilty of anything or is just being thrown under the bus. Coming from Bulgaria rather than a more southernly direction makes me think they might be Syrians, very unfortunate if so.

Thank you, I promise I will do you proud daddy.

even expressing moderate right wing views here can get you a ban, 'far right' trolls don't even make it to 50 posts these days around here. There is no far right here.

23-10-2019 12:45pm

The Satanist wrote: »

There is no far right in Ireland. It's a childish bogeyman used by the left to legitimise their own policies.

Evidence: every single election since the foundation of the state. Even mild, economic right wing parties struggle for any support (PDs, Renua).

I am sure you know that there is a difference between the ethno-nationalist far right and the economically right wing. The PDs for example were relatively liberal socially.

But I agree that there has been no electoral success for the ethno-centric far right - probably because we previously had little or no immigration to raise them from their slumber. Queer-bashing would have been a previous pastime.

Melgra93 · 23-10-2019 1:05pm

jmayo wrote: »

Ehh I know there are daily buses with routes from/to likes of Sligo/Enniskillen.
But how often?
One bus a day is shag all use to someone without car and without relatives/friends with car.

And also dear god what the feck use is a bus to Dromod.
Unless you have a boat waiting at the marina for you or something. :rolleyes:

Ok so some clarification is needed on the public transport in the area. There is not buses to Sligo and Enniskillen daily. There is one bus to Enniskillen on a Thursday. There is a bus to sligo on a Friday morning and Saturday morning. However, the one on Saturday goes through many rural areas and ends up taking over two hours for somewhere which is about an hours drive away. The use of the bus to Dromod is that it's our nearest train station. However, these daily links to Carrick and Dromod leave three times daily, although due to the rural nature of the area there are often detours to collect people who live in the absolute arsehole of nowhere which is fair enough, they need to get to tesco and aldi just like the rest of us but it means you often have to set aside the majority of the day just to get somewhere that is 25 mins drive by car. Its not ideal if you just need to nip to carrick for an appointment etc. Also calling this a daily service was an error on my part because they do not operate on Sunday.

Annasopra · 23-10-2019 1:13pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

even expressing moderate right wing views here can get you a ban, 'far right' trolls don't even make it to 50 posts these days around here. There is no far right here.

Thats bull sh>t. A lot of the trolls are all the same person reregging again and again and again and again

Annasopra · 23-10-2019 1:16pm

The Satanist wrote: »

There is no far right in Ireland. It's a childish bogeyman used by the left to legitimise their own policies.

Evidence: every single election since the foundation of the state. Even mild, economic right wing parties struggle for any support (PDs, Renua).

Someone needs to tell Rowan to hide his guns now we all know

Pasamos · 23-10-2019 1:16pm

Achill Island is next for Direct Plantation.

weldoninhio · 23-10-2019 1:16pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

even expressing moderate right wing views here can get you a ban, 'far right' trolls don't even make it to 50 posts these days around here. There is no far right here.

You succumb to the boardsthink or you get banned.

PostWoke · 23-10-2019 1:28pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

even expressing moderate right wing views here can get you a ban, 'far right' trolls don't even make it to 50 posts these days around here. There is no far right here.

Nonsense, there's a mod posting in threads like this that will go unnamed that is quite islamophobic from what I've seen of his posts. Fake news as they say there Eric.

Eric Cartman · 23-10-2019 1:28pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Thats bull sh>t. A lot of the trolls are all the same person reregging again and again and again and again

So theb far right views arent a thing on boards and its just one rereg, point proven

PostWoke · 23-10-2019 1:29pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

So theb far right views arent a thing on boards and its just one rereg, point proven

Erm no...?

And hint for any uninitiated, chances are anyone stating 'there is no far right here' are the far right here. XD

Annasopra · 23-10-2019 1:30pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

So theb far right views arent a thing on boards and its just one rereg, point proven

If you really want to promote racism theres lots of places you can go.

Boggles · 23-10-2019 1:37pm

So anyway.....

Reps from the community will meet with Stanton tomorrow. Will be interesting to see if he can settle the genuine fears or are they too embedded to back down now.

Also interestingly the company that wants to invest 30 million in the area are also the company who own the 25 apartments.

Melgra93 · 23-10-2019 1:52pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I suppose Just Eat or Deliveroo will provide all their meals to the apartments, since they will not have enough cash to buy and cook their own. Just wondered, as this seems to be a different set up to most reception/DP centres.

The idea that Just Eat or Deliveroo even operate in an area like Ballinamore is the funniest thing I've heard all week.

Melgra93 · 23-10-2019 1:58pm

Boggles wrote: »

Or refugees.

Irish people have no interest in the village, the apartments were idle for 10+ years.

Yes they were idle for 10+ years but they were also unfinished and not fit for living in. They have only been brought up to scratch in recent months when the plans to house Asylum Seekers were developed.

Boggles · 23-10-2019 3:23pm

Melgra93 wrote: »

Yes they were idle for 10+ years but they were also unfinished and not fit for living in. They have only been brought up to scratch in recent months when the plans to house Asylum Seekers were developed.

I know, that's my point there was no "organic" demand for them because if they were they would have been finished like the vast majority of the "ghost estates" around Ireland.

Ronin247 · 23-10-2019 3:26pm

Boggles wrote: »

I know, that's my point there was no "organic" demand for them because if they were they would have been finished like the vast majority of the "ghost estates" around Ireland.

If there's no demand, then why are the company talking about investment of €30 million including new apartments?.
Obviously a lie to try to persuade people that they are bringing investment to the area.

PostWoke · 23-10-2019 3:32pm

Boggles wrote: »

I know, that's my point there was no "organic" demand for them because if they were they would have been finished like the vast majority of the "ghost estates" around Ireland.

Cart before the horse eh? Any evidence that they weren't finished because of a lack of demand, rather than not being in demand because they were never finished?

realdanbreen · 23-10-2019 3:40pm

splinter65 wrote: »

The HSE can’t attract GPs. They can’t get them. Who in gods name wants to be a GP in Borrisokane .

What's your problem with Borrisokane?
Its always been a great spot and as far as I know the vast majority of people there have no issue with the plans to rehome these people.

PostWoke · 23-10-2019 3:46pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

What's your problem with Borrisokane?

Impressive. You literally quoted one of his concerns on this topic then asked him what his problems were with this topic.

Boggles · 23-10-2019 3:48pm

Ronin247 wrote: »

If there's no demand, then why are the company talking about investment of €30 million including new apartments?.

The plan is to create the demand, they want to build a nursing home, service station, and a business hub apparently.

realdanbreen · 23-10-2019 3:48pm

PostWoke wrote: »

Impressive. You literally quoted one of his concerns on this topic then asked him what his problems were with this topic.

I hate when people misuse the word 'literally'.
Apart from that which of his concerns did I quote?

vriesmays · 23-10-2019 5:42pm

https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/34434-confusing-response-from-dept-of-justice-re-asylum-seekers-being-housed-in-achill

Gatling · 23-10-2019 5:43pm

vriesmays wrote: »

https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/34434-confusing-response-from-dept-of-justice-re-asylum-seekers-being-housed-in-achill

I hear spike island is free in the off season

PostWoke · 23-10-2019 6:20pm

Boggles wrote: »

The plan is to create the demand, they want to build a nursing home, service station, and a business hub apparently.

And only asylum seekers can make this happen!!!!!!

Gonna ignore my post above? Thought so.

realdanbreen wrote: »

I hate when people misuse the word 'literally'.
Apart from that which of his concerns did I quote?

I don't care, especially if you can't even follow what is going on in your own posts.

Eric Cartman · 23-10-2019 6:49pm

vriesmays wrote: »

https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/34434-confusing-response-from-dept-of-justice-re-asylum-seekers-being-housed-in-achill

I hope that green party hippy saoirse mchugh has to deal with this, she can't possibly say anything negative about them for wrath of her mainland thejournal.ie reading fanbase, cant have her seen as a racist agreeing with her fellow islanders.

Chinasea · 23-10-2019 8:04pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

A company bringing skilled employment and thus skilled employees to better a town is vastly different to uneducated migrants with little money and no right to work.

But you know that ofcourse, you’d rather just believe everyone in every rural village is a racist....

I'd say many of the asylum seekers are better educated then the local racist mob coming up with every dodgy bogus excuse as to why it would not be suitable for them to come seek refuge in their town.

Eric Cartman · 23-10-2019 8:12pm

Chinasea wrote: »

I'd say many of the asylum seekers are better educated then the local racist mob coming up with every dodgy bogus excuse as to why it would not be suitable for them to come seek refuge in their town.

https://www.iwkoeln.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Studien/Report/PDF/2017/IW-Report_2017_37_Education_Levels_of_Refugees.pdf

35% completed secondary school,
12% completed university.
theres twice as many showing up with no or a primary school education than completed university or a vocational qualification.

coming from somalia, 88% of them never even made it to upper secondry school. 88% of somalian refugees have less than a junior cert going on.

despite being offered them, only 7% of male and 3% of female 'refugees' took up the offer of vocational training. Only 27% of men and 17% of women took up 'other education' (the vast majority being language school)

so in general its 35% of them completing secondry school before arriving and only 27% of the men taking up even learning a language when they get to europe.

Great stats there...
Also just to add, Iran is seriously improving those numbers, it really upsets the model and without them being part of the makeup of germany's intake of refugees, we're down to single digit percentiles of those who have even set foot in a post secondary school educational institute.

Still waters · 23-10-2019 8:17pm

Chinasea wrote: »

I'd say many of the asylum seekers are better educated then the local racist mob coming up with every dodgy bogus excuse as to why it would not be suitable for them to come seek refuge in their town.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

https://www.iwkoeln.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Studien/Report/PDF/2017/IW-Report_2017_37_Education_Levels_of_Refugees.pdf

35% completed secondary school,
12% completed university.
theres twice as many showing up with no or a primary school education than completed university or a vocational qualification.

coming from somalia, 88% of them never even made it to upper secondry school. 88% of somalian refugees have less than a junior cert going on.

Lol, and the lefties think its doctors and engineers, turns out they can barely write their own name, they should stay at home and try and better their lives rather than fcukin up western Europe

Ha Long Bay · 23-10-2019 8:19pm

PostWoke wrote: »

Does it matter? It's proof that there are asylum scammers out there, and yours and other people's answer to that is not to show concern, but to sealion instead?

Of course it matters that you backup stupid statements as facts. This isn't Twitter it's a discussion forum. The link proved nothing to backup the claims.

Also wtf is sealoin?

elperello · 23-10-2019 8:27pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I hope that green party hippy saoirse mchugh has to deal with this, she can't possibly say anything negative about them for wrath of her mainland thejournal.ie reading fanbase, cant have her seen as a racist agreeing with her fellow islanders.

Or maybe she will just be straight and honest as she has been to date.

Eric Cartman · 23-10-2019 8:29pm

elperello wrote: »

Or maybe she will just be straight and honest as she has been to date.

im talking about the one who's a politican for the green party, you must be mixing her up with somebody else.

elperello · 23-10-2019 8:30pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

im talking about the one who's a politican for the green party, you must be mixing her up with somebody else.

Same woman.
Carry on.

Mr. teddywinkles · 23-10-2019 8:34pm

One side of the argument providing stats the other ****e. Guess which side?

enricoh · 23-10-2019 9:04pm

Ronin247 wrote: »

If there's no demand, then why are the company talking about investment of €30 million including new apartments?.
Obviously a lie to try to persuade people that they are bringing investment to the area.

So, the crowd that own the apartments have a new e30 million investment in the pipeline for the town, which includes more apartments.

Hmm, i wonder who they have in mind to reside in the new apartments, more asylum seekers perchance?!
I wonder will the new apartments be in the first phase of the development. My money is on it.
What a scam.

Melgra93 · 23-10-2019 9:09pm

Boggles wrote: »

I know, that's my point there was no "organic" demand for them because if they were they would have been finished like the vast majority of the "ghost estates" around Ireland.

Other estates and properties built during a similar time period were bought and rented in the area because they were fit for purpose. Some privately, some bought up or built by the council.

splinter65 · 23-10-2019 9:38pm

Chinasea wrote: »

I'd say many of the asylum seekers are better educated then the local racist mob coming up with every dodgy bogus excuse as to why it would not be suitable for them to come seek refuge in their town.

Your dead right Chinasea. 150 doctors solicitors dentists civil engineers professors and opticians.
All want to come and live in Ballinamore Co. Leitrim Ireland.
It was their lifetime goal.

padd b1975 · 24-10-2019 7:05am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I hope that green party hippy saoirse mchugh has to deal with this, she can't possibly say anything negative about them for wrath of her mainland thejournal.ie reading fanbase, cant have her seen as a racist agreeing with her fellow islanders.

Most Achill people are cool enough with the prospect, there was a meeting last night that had none of the theatrics that have become the norm.

24-10-2019 7:27am

Melgra93 wrote: »

Other estates and properties built during a similar time period were bought and rented in the area because they were fit for purpose. Some privately, some bought up or built by the council.

And there were plenty left sitting idle.
It's better to have these places full & being used rather then left to rot away like they have been.

Chinasea · 24-10-2019 7:59am

Still waters wrote: »

Lol, and the lefties think its doctors and engineers, turns out they can barely write their own name, they should stay at home and try and better their lives rather than fcukin up western Europe

"Stay at home"

Clue: Asylum seeker.

Boggles · 24-10-2019 8:16am

enricoh wrote: »

So, the crowd that own the apartments have a new e30 million investment in the pipeline for the town, which includes more apartments.

Hmm, i wonder who they have in mind to reside in the new apartments, more asylum seekers perchance?!
I wonder will the new apartments be in the first phase of the development. My money is on it.
What a scam.

Yeah they are investing €30 million to house asylum seekers. :rolleyes:

Melgra93 · 24-10-2019 8:23am

bubblypop wrote: »

And there were plenty left sitting idle.
It's better to have these places full & being used rather then left to rot away like they have been.

I agree, however seeing what happened to the last direct provision centre doesn't fill me full of hope about this.

24-10-2019 8:24am

Melgra93 wrote: »

I agree, however seeing what happened to the last direct provision centre doesn't fill me full of hope about this.

Why?
Because it closed?

Eric Cartman · 24-10-2019 10:40am

padd b1975 wrote: »

Most Achill people are cool enough with the prospect, there was a meeting last night that had none of the theatrics that have become the norm.

Thats brilliant news.

Right we’re sending them all to the islands lads, theyre cool with it....

padd b1975 · 24-10-2019 12:13pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Thats brilliant news.

Right we’re sending them all to the islands lads, theyre cool with it....

Let's not get too excited there!

The numbers are pretty modest compared to Ballinamore, around 80 are planned to come.

Harvey Weinstein · 24-10-2019 12:46pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

Most Achill people are cool enough with the prospect, there was a meeting last night that had none of the theatrics that have become the norm.

Are you sure about that? That wasn't what I saw on the video from the meeting. The PBP councillor from Castlebar was heckled repeatedly.

In any case the centre for Achill has been postponed thankfully.

Gatling · 24-10-2019 1:36pm

Boggles wrote: »

Yeah they are investing €30 million to house asylum seekers. :rolleyes:

Give it a year or two and they will double or triple their investment thanks to the government paying hand over foot to house immigrants

Boggles · 24-10-2019 2:43pm

Gatling wrote: »

Give it a year or two and they will double or triple their investment thanks to the government paying hand over foot to house immigrants

In 2 years they will earn 90 million?

Please by all means do show your maths.

Eric Cartman · 24-10-2019 3:27pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

Let's not get too excited there!

The numbers are pretty modest compared to Ballinamore, around 80 are planned to come.

Well apparantly the island is the only place where the locals dont mind them so we should probably send them all

Melgra93 · 24-10-2019 3:32pm

bubblypop wrote: »

Why?
Because it closed?

Because it was closed and then left to rot. The smell going by it in the summer would turn your stomach.

padd b1975 · 24-10-2019 3:34pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Are you sure about that? That wasn't what I saw on the video from the meeting. The PBP councillor from Castlebar was heckled repeatedly.

In any case the centre for Achill has been postponed thankfully.

PBP councillor from Castlebar?

Not in this lifetime hopefully!

Asylum Seekers Getting Apartments in Ballinamore - mod warning in OP (18/10)

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