Asylum Seekers Getting Apartments in Ballinamore - mod warning in OP (18/10)

Jamie2k9 · 16-10-2019 11:03pm #1

130 moving into an apartment block in November. 150 attended a meeting this evening about the plan. Would be good to see locals put a stop to it but probably not. Media pretty quiet so far and I think if this gets the coverage it should it will ramp up tensions....

Interesting SF now appear to support developers been paid to house asylum seekers but not for social housing!! The developer is Paul Collins.

Barry Whyte of Newstalk was in attendance. Cant link his twitter.

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irishgrover · 16-10-2019 11:42pm

Jamie2k9 wrote:

.... Would be good to see locals put a stop to it but probably not...

All of them?, some of them?, how many is to many?, why is Balinamore not suitable? Could the town not so with new blood, what's your opinion etc et

normanoffside · 16-10-2019 11:44pm

Where is Ballinamore?
Does anyone else want apartments there?
Are they getting free cars and buggies too?

riffmongous · 16-10-2019 11:48pm

A village is no place for that number of people, much less one in the middle of nowhere, how are they going to integrate? They'll have feck all to do and nothing nearby, it's just terrible planning

elperello · 16-10-2019 11:49pm

Ballinamore is in Leitrim.
Population 914.

SafeSurfer · 17-10-2019 12:18am

I for one welcome our new asylum seeking overlords.

The population of Leitrim used to be over 150,000. It is now just over 30,000. I think we should welcome new members into the community. There have been many heartening stories of successful integration in Leitrim.
Depopulated Leitrim villages such as Kiltyclogher are actively looking for people to move there.

The Satanist · 17-10-2019 12:36am

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I There have been many heartening stories of successful integration in Leitrim.

Has there?

SafeSurfer · 17-10-2019 12:49am

The Satanist wrote: »

Has there?

Yes. For example the Kurdish community in Carrick on Shannon and The Iraqi born Leitrim county hurler.

mvl · 17-10-2019 12:57am

riffmongous wrote: »

A village is no place for that number of people, much less one in the middle of nowhere, how are they going to integrate? They'll have feck all to do and nothing nearby, it's just terrible planning

I'd defo agree with this, the government needs to be kicked hard in case there are no rules/quotas on this yet.
they must look at both the availability for housing + schools + GPs and how these refugees can build a life in the new communities.

Dank Janniels · 17-10-2019 1:12am

If the town cant handle 130 people then why were the flats built in the 1st place?

mvl · 17-10-2019 1:22am

Dank Janniels wrote: »

If the town cant handle 130 people then why were the flats built in the 1st place?

- you'd think these flats should come with jobs and car keys ... maybe we can feed this feedback to the developers, they're not working hard enough to solve community problems.

ChikiChiki · 17-10-2019 8:15am

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I for one welcome our new asylum seeking overlords.

The population of Leitrim used to be over 150,000. It is now just over 30,000. I think we should welcome new members into the community. There have been many heartening stories of successful integration in Leitrim.
Depopulated Leitrim villages such as Kiltyclogher are actively looking for people to move there.

Wtf will they do in Ballinamore? It will only lead to a feeling of abandonment and crime. It's not good for anybody, locals or the asylum seekers.

This policy of putting asylum seekers in random country towns is absolutely ridiculous.

I'd imagine the flats were built there by some local developer. Happened a lot during the boom, the local lad done good came back to show off his new found wealth by building mini estates in nonsense locations.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 8:20am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Would be good to see locals put a stop to it but probably not. Media pretty quiet so far and I think if this gets the coverage it should it will ramp up tensions....

Why do you want to ramp up tensions?

Ulysses Gaze · 17-10-2019 8:57am

Dank Janniels wrote: »

If the town cant handle 130 people then why were the flats built in the 1st place?

Probably using one of the myriad property investment schemes dreamt up by FF during the boom. Tax write offs for investors.

17-10-2019 9:01am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Would be good to see locals put a stop to it but probably not.

Why would you want locals to stop this? There was a direct provision centre in the town previously & there were no issues.

Geuze · 17-10-2019 9:01am

As the majority of AS are making bogus claims, as has been shown over and over, their claims should be processed within 7 days at the airport / port.

Then no need for any of this.

17-10-2019 9:02am

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Wtf will they do in Ballinamore? It will only lead to a feeling of abandonment and crime. It's not good for anybody, locals or the asylum seekers.

This policy of putting asylum seekers in random country towns is absolutely ridiculous.

I'd imagine the flats were built there by some local developer. Happened a lot during the boom, the local lad done good came back to show off his new found wealth by building mini estates in nonsense locations.

They will do the same as the people who live there now. There's no issue with them living there. Not sure why you think there is

punisher5112 · 17-10-2019 9:04am

How can we as a small island afford all of this?

We are in a huge deficit and owe €200 billion...

Pensions are in huge deficits and many that are coming here will never work or contribute to the Exchequer in any way.

I do see private entities though making an absolute fortune off it though.

enricoh · 17-10-2019 9:12am

Stopped there for a bit of grub last sunday and the place was hopping, the local team were playing in the county final in a few hours and the town was decked out in flags, buntings etc.

No one begging, groups of dodgy heads etc etc.
Carrickmacross got a direct provision centre last year, not working out great, heres from sinn feins matt carthy-
https://www.mattcarthy.ie/public-safety-concerns-of-carrickmacross-residents-must-be-addressed-matt-carthy-mep/

These concerns have manifested online following a recent horrendous sexual assault in the town and have led to an online petition, signed by hundreds which asks “Do you feel intimidated when walking around Carrickmacross?”; the concerns expressed in the petition include many indicating that the presence of a groups of men ‘hanging around the Main Street’ is causing unease which has been exacerbated since the assault. However, a minority have also used online forums to create racially based attacks on whole sections of the community.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 9:27am

enricoh wrote: »

Stopped there for a bit of grub last sunday and the place was hopping, the local team were playing in the county final in a few hours and the town was decked out in flags, buntings etc.

No one begging, groups of dodgy heads etc etc.
Carrickmacross got a direct provision centre last year, not working out great, heres from sinn feins matt carthy-
https://www.mattcarthy.ie/public-safety-concerns-of-carrickmacross-residents-must-be-addressed-matt-carthy-mep/

These concerns have manifested online following a recent horrendous sexual assault in the town and have led to an online petition, signed by hundreds which asks “Do you feel intimidated when walking around Carrickmacross?”; the concerns expressed in the petition include many indicating that the presence of a groups of men ‘hanging around the Main Street’ is causing unease which has been exacerbated since the assault. However, a minority have also used online forums to create racially based attacks on whole sections of the community.

I'm confused was the perpetrator of the sexual assault a resident of the DP center?

Wibbs · 17-10-2019 11:48am

Boggles wrote: »

I'm confused was the perpetrator of the sexual assault a resident of the DP center?

Seems he was a "newcomer", as are the gangs of adult men hanging around with attendant antisocial behaviour. That's the problem with this multiculturalist stuff, too many in power and in the media have to be seen to be careful in couching things in vague terms lest they be accused of some "ism" or other.

CinemaGuy45 · 17-10-2019 11:57am

bubblypop wrote: »

They will do the same as the people who live there now. There's no issue with them living there. Not sure why you think there is

Typical boards.ie high posts count anti Irish drivel.

Meanwhile there is a massive homeless problem in Ireland and boards.ie is fast to close threads and accounts that do not cheer on the ruin of our own nation.

HSE in tatters.
Crime out of control.
Official corruption off the charts.

Muslims do not integrate even if we wanted them all I will be honest the majority of Irish people don't we need to take care of our own.

The asylum system is a racket and even the dogs and cats on the street know it.

Manchester just had a Muslim scumbag go on a stabbing rampage while the media hid his face from the coverage and downplayed it.

No doubt the mods will be picking this post apart looking for some way to give me and infection from breach of their ever shifting terms and conditions.

The fact is posts like mine are not welcome here as the truth is not welcome in the current climate.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:02pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Meanwhile there is a massive homeless problem in Ireland

The homeless problem is largely concentrated in urban areas.

There is absolutely nothing stopping any homeless person from applying to Leitrim County Council for assistance.

Why do you think they are not?

CinemaGuy45 · 17-10-2019 12:03pm

Boggles wrote: »

The homeless problem is largely concentrated in urban areas.

There is absolutely nothing stopping any homeless person from applying to Leitrim County Council for assistance.

Why do you think they are not?

Get off the stage will you.:rolleyes:

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:08pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Get off the stage will you.:rolleyes:

Angry young man it would seem. Fits I suppose.

But what part of my very simple question confused you?

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:10pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Seems he was a "newcomer", as are the gangs of adult men hanging around with attendant antisocial behaviour. That's the problem with this multiculturalist stuff, too many in power and in the media have to be seen to be careful in couching things in vague terms lest they be accused of some "ism" or other.

It would seem or it is?

Nothing is clear in that link either way.

biko · 17-10-2019 12:15pm

Sinn Fein TD Martin Kenny says it’ll be good for the town and county

Martin Kenny lives in Aughavas Co Leitrim with his wife Helen and four children.
I vote we put the provision centre in Aughavas instead

Antares35 · 17-10-2019 12:19pm

Typical Irish village mentality. Get over yourself OP. You're only entitled to your own patch of grass and outside that you've no right to dictate who can or cannot live beside you. God forbid the back*rse of Ireland might diversify a bit!

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:19pm

biko wrote: »

I vote we put the provision centre in Aughavas instead

Is there an unfinished apartment complex that could be used to house them?

weldoninhio · 17-10-2019 12:19pm

Antares35 wrote: »

Typical Irish village mentality. Get over yourself OP. You're only entitled to your own patch of grass and outside that you've no right to dictate who can or cannot live beside you. God forbid the back*rse of Ireland might diversify a bit!

Yeah, it's been so successful all over Europe do far. :rolleyes:

Antares35 · 17-10-2019 12:22pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Yeah, it's been so successful all over Europe do far. :rolleyes:

And that's why you're against it, sure. You wouldn't be up in arms if it was planned for Dublin or Cork. NIMBY much?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY

thomasdylan · 17-10-2019 12:22pm

Boggles wrote: »

The homeless problem is largely concentrated in urban areas.

There is absolutely nothing stopping any homeless person from applying to Leitrim County Council for assistance.

Why do you think they are not?

Don't you have to be living in the area or have links to the area to apply for social housing there?

weldoninhio · 17-10-2019 12:26pm

Antares35 wrote: »

And that's why you're against it, sure. You wouldn't be up in arms if it was planned for Dublin or Cork. NIMBY much?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY

I'm from Dublin, of course i'd be up in arms if they tried to put it here

Nermal · 17-10-2019 12:26pm

Antares35 wrote: »

You're only entitled to your own patch of grass and outside that you've no right to dictate who can or cannot live beside you.

Yes we do.

enricoh · 17-10-2019 12:28pm

biko wrote: »

Sinn Fein TD Martin Kenny says it’ll be good for the town and county

Martin Kenny lives in Aughavas Co Leitrim with his wife Helen and four children.
I vote we put the provision centre in Aughavas instead

Sinn féin do love a growing welfare sector for their votes! More asylum seekers can only help in that regard.
It'll be interesting in the next election to see how they get on and the couple of tds that called out the majority of asylum seekers as spongers.

17-10-2019 12:29pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Typical boards.ie high posts count anti Irish drivel.

Meanwhile there is a massive homeless problem in Ireland and boards.ie is fast to close threads and accounts that do not cheer on the ruin of our own nation.
.

can you point out any anti-irish speech in my post please?
also, there's plenty of houses available in Leitrim if those homeless people want a home.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:31pm

thomasdylan wrote: »

Don't you have to be living in the area or have links to the area to apply for social housing there?

Not at all.

Local Housing authorities routinely allow homeless people switch and there may also be swaps because of various reasons.

Now you may have a bit of trouble if the local authority is absolutely overwhelmed, then they might enforce the rules regarding links in the area.

But homelessness would be eradicated within 12 months if the numbers could be dispersed throughout the island.

Obviously that will never happen.

17-10-2019 12:32pm

biko wrote: »

Sinn Fein TD Martin Kenny says it’ll be good for the town and county

Martin Kenny lives in Aughavas Co Leitrim with his wife Helen and four children.
I vote we put the provision centre in Aughavas instead

it will be good for the town, extra people will bring some life into it.
Ballinamore is a small town, Aghavas is just a townland, there is no town & nowhere to house them.
There are plenty of empty houses in the town, Its good see them being used instead of falling apart.
There was a direct provision centre in the town some years ago, no issues.

17-10-2019 12:33pm

Who in their right mind wants to move to Leitrim for social housing. It would destroy them.
The locals are leaving Leitrim for years.

I'm from a town not a million miles away and a ton of folks are up and down the road to Dublin for work every day.

The Inpatient · 17-10-2019 12:35pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Sinn Fein are the mouthpiece of the IRA the biggest organised crime gang this country has ever seen.

.

I thought we had all agreed that it was the bunch that ran Anglo Irish Bank that were the biggest organised crime gang.

On the actual Topic,

Its wrong place for 130 Asylum seekers, they should be located close to a city that already has people of their own nationality, an embassy, airport and Social services that are experienced in dealing with Asylum seekers that are new to Ireland, and a chance of employment and being able to get to it.

I offer the example of Syrian refugees that are in Ballaghadereen, no issues with crime or anything, but i can tell you for sure employment is a problem for them and integration for the parents generation is not easy.

Wrong place again.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:36pm

enricoh wrote: »

Sinn féin do love a growing welfare sector for their votes! More asylum seekers can only help in that regard.

They can't vote.

The Inpatient · 17-10-2019 12:39pm

Boggles wrote: »

They can't vote.

Their future children can, and if they become Irish citizens they can.

biko · 17-10-2019 12:40pm

Boogles can't thank that far into the future

biko · 17-10-2019 12:43pm

Look at other countries where the idea of buffing the rural areas with immigrants have been implemented.
How have they fared?

CinemaGuy45 · 17-10-2019 12:43pm

biko wrote: »

Boogles can't thank that far into the future

I had a go and one of your posts in another thread but I totally agree with this post.:D

One thing I will say is anybody defending Sinn Fein is displaying their own stupidity.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:46pm

The Inpatient wrote: »

Their future children can, and if they become Irish citizens they can.

With a 70% + rejection rate on relatively small numbers it would seem an extreme exercise in vote gathering.

Also SF have never been in government, any policy we have on the Asylum process has nothing to do with them, the big lads in FG and FF will get the credit and votes.

All though I think the whole thing about housing some of the most unfortunate people in world just for votes is a pretty bat shít conspiracy theory.

Probably taken as fact in certain troubling circles I imagine.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 12:47pm

biko wrote: »

Boogles can't thank that far into the future

I'll thank you tomorrow.

n97 mini · 17-10-2019 12:48pm

Boggles wrote: »

They can't vote.

They can in local elections since 2004.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/councillor-paid-for-votes-asylum-seeker-tells-court-26626351.html

Mrs OBumble · 17-10-2019 12:50pm

The Inpatient wrote: »

I thought we had all agreed that it was the bunch that ran Anglo Irish Bank that were the biggest organised crime gang.

On the actual Topic,

Its wrong place for 130 Asylum seekers, they should be located close to a city that already has people of their own nationality, an embassy, airport and Social services that are experienced in dealing with Asylum seekers that are new to Ireland, and a chance of employment and being able to get to it.

I offer the example of Syrian refugees that are in Ballaghadereen, no issues with crime or anything, but i can tell you for sure employment is a problem for them and integration for the parents generation is not easy.

Wrong place again.

What city is there, like this, which has 130 empty apartments?

Or are you saying that because we cannot provide the perfect situation, the people should stay in refugee camps?

biko · 17-10-2019 12:51pm

n97 mini wrote: »

They can in local elections since 2004.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/councillor-paid-for-votes-asylum-seeker-tells-court-26626351.html

Local politician brings in people that will owe him.

The Inpatient · 17-10-2019 12:52pm

Boggles wrote: »

With a 70% + rejection rate on relatively small numbers it would seem an extreme exercise in vote gathering.

.

Not a hugely exhausting task for a local Councillor when population of town is under 1000 people.

Asylum Seekers Getting Apartments in Ballinamore - mod warning in OP (18/10)

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