Your line is weak but your point is strong: Liveline from 10th January

15-01-2021 4:10pm

shearforce wrote: »

I actually think it's very important that the whole country listens to this - I avoided it as much as I could but really this needs to be heard.

From my own point of view with young girls at home, I hope it's drove it home with me not to have shame or whatever if they arrive home pregnant and to fully support them.

I do realise I shouldn't have to listen to this show to make me realise this but it helps no doubt.

I'm probably sounding a bit out of touch but so be it. It's made me think anyway and no doubt helps the women to talk about it.

tough radio to listen to though.

My dad asked me on Wednesday "why do you listen to this stuff?". I said I thought it was important for people to hear about it so that it doesn't get forgotten.

curioser · 15-01-2021 4:10pm

I sometimes wonder what world I lived in back in the day. I'm of the same generation - a couple of years older - as the first caller. When my contemporaries were "at it" we knew exactly what the possible outcome was. I had both urban and rural experience and knew plenty of extra marital pregnancies where the child was kept by the mother, or both parents. In fact, I never personally knew a lady who went to a Mother and Baby home. Nonetheless I realise that a previous remark I made was distasteful and unwarranted, for which mea culpa.

ShamNNspace · 15-01-2021 4:13pm

eviltwin wrote: »

Why wouldn't it? She had a job and a large family, if they had just been a bit less worried about the neighbours and focused on their daughter / grandchild it could have been a wonderful experience for them.

I only posed the question, the grandparents did not want the child and believe me a child will allways pick up on the fact that its not wanted and loved and somehow inferior. The sister also said that the poor mother had already had one breakdown. The only way imv was for the mother and child to make a clean break from that family possibly with the help of a sibling or a good strong friend and go her own way maybe in time the gps would come round, maybe not .. that didn't happen

15-01-2021 4:14pm

curioser wrote: »

I sometimes wonder what world I lived in back in the day. I'm of the same generation - a couple of years older - as the first caller. When my contemporaries were "at it" we knew exactly what the possible outcome was. I had both urban and rural experience and knew plenty of extra marital pregnancies where the child was kept by the mother, or both parents. In fact, I never personally knew a lady who went to a Mother and Baby home. Nonetheless I realise that a previous remark I made was distasteful and unwarranted, for which mea culpa.

It's possible you do know someone who went to a mother and baby home, but the story you were told was she had moved to England for a job.

PieOhMy · 15-01-2021 4:14pm

Havnt listened this week as too miserable of a topic but I think it is overall good for the victims to have a forum to be heard on and for society be confronted with the ugly truth.

I only wonder if Katie would have been a better host with genuine empathy but as i said I wasnt listening so maybe joe was acting more like a normal person than usual.

15-01-2021 4:14pm

shearforce wrote: »

I actually think it's very important that the whole country listens to this - I avoided it as much as I could but really this needs to be heard.

From my own point of view with young girls at home, I hope it's drove it home with me not to have shame or whatever if they arrive home pregnant and to fully support them.

I do realise I shouldn't have to listen to this show to make me realise this but it helps no doubt.

I'm probably sounding a bit out of touch but so be it. It's made me think anyway and no doubt helps the women to talk about it.

tough radio to listen to though.

My mother was very swayed by the opinion expressed on the radio of a Master of a maternity hospital who was in great praise of young unmarried working class mothers who did a great job of raising their baby and whose immense pride and joy it was in their lives. She even began to want me to get pregnant and was quite disappointed not to ever become a grandmother in any circumstance. She used to have weird dreams of various faaaaders she would like to do de honours, with (very strangely) broadcaster John Bowman bring a top choice because of his intellect!

TheHomeService · 15-01-2021 4:33pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My mother was very swayed by the opinion expressed on the radio of a Master of a maternity hospital who was in great praise of young unmarried working class mothers who did a great job of raising their baby and whose immense pride and joy it was in their lives. She even began to want me to get pregnant and was quite disappointed not to ever become a grandmother in any circumstance. She used to have weird dreams of various faaaaders she would like to do de honours, with (very strangely) broadcaster John Bowman bring a top choice because of his intellect!

Talking of intellect, I’m sure your mother would have found a Trinity Graduate turned broadcaster to have been a suitable choice, so to speak and dah! :-)

Odyssey 2005 · 15-01-2021 4:51pm

FrKurtFahrt wrote: »

Oh dear Jesus, this is horrific

Same most days

Odyssey 2005 · 15-01-2021 5:16pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

This story illustrates where the bulk of the blame lies in these cases............it was the parents of the girls who wanted to preserve their “respectability”.

100%

thecretinhop · 15-01-2021 6:19pm

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/half-those-who-arrived-ireland-23325388

there are no words people are cnts 160k travelled to ire????

Well done Joe promoting dis u clown

Losty Dublin · 15-01-2021 6:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

She used to have weird dreams of various faaaaders she would like to do de honours, with (very strangely) broadcaster John Bowman bring a top choice because of his intellect!

Catmaniac Philbin Bowman :pac:

15-01-2021 7:01pm

thecretinhop wrote: »

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/half-those-who-arrived-ireland-23325388

there are no words people are cnts 160k travelled to ire????

Well done Joe promoting dis u clown

He'll be at it again as soon as he gets the impetus.

I cannot believe an email I got from Amerikay today. First it said that I wasn't to allow myself to attend any fake clinics as they are being set up to take my money and do me harm, second, have I made all my arrangements for a big 60th birthday celebration in March. Totally out of touch.

notwhoyouthink · 15-01-2021 9:01pm

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

15-01-2021 9:53pm

notwhoyouthink wrote: »

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

Philip, caller.

Dan Jaman · 15-01-2021 9:58pm

notwhoyouthink wrote: »

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

PBH did describe Lahvloyne as a place where cranks call to air their grievancies, which I found hilariously apt.

curioser · 15-01-2021 10:38pm

notwhoyouthink wrote: »

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

At the risk of sounding pedantic, there is no Joe Duffy show, on RTE or any other radio station. Liveline, presented by Joe Duffy, is on RTE Radio 1 at 1.45 weekdays. Although I am sure the subject of changing the show's name arises regularly at contract negotiations. When, as regularly happens, a caller refers to the Joe Dufffy Show, he never "checks" them.

Dan Jaman · 16-01-2021 1:02am

Puffed up in the IT...

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/joe-duffy-et-al-do-what-the-mother-and-baby-home-commission-could-not-1.4458277

16-01-2021 2:44am

Dan Jaman wrote: »

Puffed up in the IT...

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/joe-duffy-et-al-do-what-the-mother-and-baby-home-commission-could-not-1.4458277

The title "Irish Times" ought these days to be emblazoned in white on a red strip at the top of the front page.

golondrinas1 · 16-01-2021 10:10am

Always amuses me that when I type liveline my predictive text on the eyepad changes it to lifeline. If it works properly at all it should change it to deathline
My Chinese phone with a Snapdragon 855 chip shows it correctly. Who says we shouldn't trust Chinese phones.

16-01-2021 10:17am

golondrinas1 wrote: »

Always amuses me that when I type liveline my predictive text on the eyepad changes it to lifeline. If it works properly at all it should change it to deathline
My Chinese phone with a Snapdragon 855 chip shows it correctly. Who says we shouldn't trust Chinese phones.

Mine types NK (Noel Kelly Talent Management) in place of "No".

ButtersSuki · 16-01-2021 5:20pm

Dan Jaman wrote: »

Puffed up in the IT...

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/joe-duffy-et-al-do-what-the-mother-and-baby-home-commission-could-not-1.4458277

Dat fella duz love Joe for some strange reason, no matter how bad de show duz be.

ButtersSuki · 16-01-2021 5:21pm

I missed all bar the first 15mins or so of yesterday’s show. Should I listen back?

Odyssey 2005 · 16-01-2021 5:28pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

I missed all bar the first 15mins or so of yesterday’s show. Should I listen back?

Are you new here ?

Roger_007 · 16-01-2021 5:34pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

I missed all bar the first 15mins or so of yesterday’s show. Should I listen back?

No, not unless you want to hear stories of pregnant girls who were dumped by their families for fear of wagging tongues but somehow ‘the state’ or the church were responsible.

16-01-2021 5:48pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Dat fella duz love Joe for some strange reason, no matter how bad de show duz be.

Mr Kelly very busy past few daze with LLS and marionetting all over soshal meeja. I've looked into some profiles of doze fawning over RTÉ "stars" and their connections to a certain couple of companies, so to speak. He reckoned dat it would be impossible for "detractors" to counter-reply as it would be very bad taste in light of what was on LLS yesterday. Very manipulative marketing type. He is counting on de fact dat de ordinary Joe Public doesn't scavenge around all the resources to uncover de plot, do to speak. Probably one of de most powerful individuals in Ireland at de moment. Will see a further showering of his interaction on a site familiar to us no doubt. The worst thing folk can't do is respond to these for that is to acknowledge them and throws a spanner into the works of caller their bluff, so to speak.

PieOhMy · 16-01-2021 6:40pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Mr Kelly very busy past few daze with LLS and marionetting all over soshal meeja. I've looked into some profiles of doze fawning over RTÉ "stars" and their connections to a certain couple of companies, so to speak. He reckoned dat it would be impossible for "detractors" to counter-reply as it would be very bad taste in light of what was on LLS yesterday. Very manipulative marketing type. He is counting on de fact dat de ordinary Joe Public doesn't scavenge around all the resources to uncover de plot, do to speak. Probably one of de most powerful individuals in Ireland at de moment. Will see a further showering of his interaction on a site familiar to us no doubt. The worst thing folk can't do is respond to these for that is to acknowledge them and throws a spanner into the works of caller their bluff, so to speak.

Thats some good digging!
I'm not truly convinced the daily mirror 'article's about some point of that days Ryan Tubridy radio show is a spontenonusly written piece of journalism. Seems more like a standing promotion peice every day. I wouldn't expect morals from a red top, or from rte at this stage but its really shady and sly all the same.

16-01-2021 8:45pm

PieOhMy wrote: »

Thats some good digging!
I'm not truly convinced the daily mirror 'article's about some point of that days Ryan Tubridy radio show is a spontenonusly written piece of journalism. Seems more like a standing promotion peice every day. I wouldn't expect morals from a red top, or from rte at this stage but its really shady and sly all the same.

One or two of the fawners on Twitter etc I clicked into and explored profiles and connections on LinkedIn, leading back in some way to Mr K. I don't have the patience to do an entirely balanced research but if I were an investigative journo with paid subscriptions to detailed companies info etc I'd be very interested in uncovering the influence one individual has in this country's media. Of course which media would employ me, that would be the irony! That's how power is wielded, and that's how it was always wielded, including the RC church etc, with everybody conveniently interdependent. It's all too comfy in RTÉ there to rock the boat, misery porn is very cheap with nobody having to do a paid creative process for material.

KevRossi · 16-01-2021 8:50pm

^ Plenty of times when a writer writes up some highly complimentary stuff it leads to tickets and names on guest lists for various do's and drinks receptions. It's where they can all hang out together and chinwag and stoke each others ego's.

A good friend of mine years ago worked for a regional paper in Germany. Desperate to get into journalism she accepted the 'What's on in Town' and 'Look who was out last night' segment. Became a borderline alcoholic as she was invited everywhere and had to go everywhere. Got propositioned a lot and had her arse groped most nights. Once she managed a transfer to other stuff she was dropped like a hot potato as they concentrated on her successor.

There's a huge amount of content in the media that's set up and written for them, they just print it and edit it slightly. One hand feeds the other.

16-01-2021 8:55pm

I see on Twitter poor Vicky Phelan has found herself in USA, for specialised trial treatment of her advancing cervical cancer, without any basic medical insurance apart from that covered by the hospital for any complications arising from the treatment itself. Eg, if she broke her ankle, got an appendicitis etc, she isn't covered at all. The insurance companies she has approached have said that it's too late to take out insurance now, so she's looking for a practical answer to the dilemma but has desisted any offers to set up a Gofundme page, as that is not appropriate for her unknown potential need. Obviously she was not well advised before her departure, maybe by the hospital treating her, or others. I think she was given to believe that all potential medical expenses would be covered, but not so. If other insurance experts can't help, maybe Joe could advise on de Liveline. I certainly hope she finds a solution fast as treatment in USA is prohibitive and she died by even have likes of basic VHI cover up to €100,000 for expenses abroad.

ShamNNspace · 16-01-2021 8:59pm

There was a retiring food critic interviewed on the boc show there a while back, she worked for one of the indo stable, anyway she informed us the policy going forward with the new critic would be not to write negative reviews of restaurants going forward.... arry whats the use of that sez I to myself, sure the negative ones are the best.. Everything is getting very magnolia

Your line is weak but your point is strong: Liveline from 10th January

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