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  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭Blues14


    Does anyone know of anyone near loughrea that services ride on lawnmowers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    Blues14 wrote: »
    Does anyone know of anyone near loughrea that services ride on lawnmowers?

    https://whelansgarage.com/

    Morrisey Sales & Repairs
    Mannin, Craughwell, Co. Galway,
    091 846157

    https://www.gerrycroffey.ie/find-us.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Darando


    Wondering if now a good time to find any deals to purchase a new mower for garden, 10x25m size. Any suggestions or deals around of last year stock?


  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Bedouin79


    Anybody feedback on weibang mowers tempted with their 3 in 1 or the straight mulcher


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    Bedouin79 wrote: »
    Anybody feedback on weibang mowers tempted with their 3 in 1 or the straight mulcher
    High end commercial brand, used a lot by landscapers and local authorities, robust no nonsense looking machines, big distributor depot in Portarlington. €649 for an 18" mulcher sounds like not much mower for the money, but it's probably able to outrun a 21" consumer 3 in 1 mower in mulch mode by a mile. You'll buy this 21" aluminium deck Castelgarden 3 in 1 XA50S for €100 less,
    https://monaghanhire.com/collections/castelgarden-lawnmowers/products/castelgarden-xa50s-21-aluminium-deck
    but If mulching is your thing, you might find it underpowered compared to a dedicated machine. The Weibang is almost 10kg heavier, so its build quality is not in question. Made for rough handling.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Bedouin79


    deezell wrote: »
    High end commercial brand, used a lot by landscapers and local authorities, robust no nonsense looking machines, big distributor depot in Portarlington. €649 for an 18" mulcher sounds like not much mower for the money, but it's probably able to outrun a 21" consumer 3 in 1 mower in mulch mode by a mile. You'll buy this 21" aluminium deck Castelgarden 3 in 1 XA50S for €100 less,
    https://monaghanhire.com/collections/castelgarden-lawnmowers/products/castelgarden-xa50s-21-aluminium-deck
    but If mulching is your thing, you might find it underpowered compared to a dedicated machine. The Weibang is almost 10kg heavier, so its build quality is not in question. Made for rough handling.

    Excellent thanks for that


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Rayc3139


    Hi all, I recently purchased a ride on. it will be used in the west of Ireland with salty air / grass. would anyone recommend a paint to be put on the under deck before first use ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    Rayc3139 wrote: »
    Hi all, I recently purchased a ride on. it will be used in the west of Ireland with salty air / grass. would anyone recommend a paint to be put on the under deck before first use ??

    Rustins, Triflo, Hammerite. Triflo 1L great value in Woodies this minute
    https://www.woodies.ie/paint-decorating/specialist-paint/metal-care/triflow-1-litre-metal-care-for-gates-and-railings-red-628917


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭TPMP


    deezell wrote: »
    High end commercial brand, used a lot by landscapers and local authorities, robust no nonsense looking machines, big distributor depot in Portarlington. €649 for an 18" mulcher sounds like not much mower for the money, but it's probably able to outrun a 21" consumer 3 in 1 mower in mulch mode by a mile. You'll buy this 21" aluminium deck Castelgarden 3 in 1 XA50S for €100 less,
    https://monaghanhire.com/collections/castelgarden-lawnmowers/products/castelgarden-xa50s-21-aluminium-deck
    but If mulching is your thing, you might find it underpowered compared to a dedicated machine. The Weibang is almost 10kg heavier, so its build quality is not in question. Made for rough handling.

    I'm looking at getting a mulching lawnmower but have absolutely no idea on general price and quality. Is the link you posted above a good price for a mulching lawnmower? Are there cheaper ones out there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    TPMP wrote: »
    I'm looking at getting a mulching lawnmower but have absolutely no idea on general price and quality. Is the link you posted above a good price for a mulching lawnmower? Are there cheaper ones out there?
    A dedicated mulch mower has specific blades for the job and deck aerodynamics optimised for the recutting of the grass and even depositing of the mulch back onto the cut surface. The extra power required to mulch well and drive the mulch into the thatch would ideally require a higher power to cut width ratio. Collector mowers with a mulch function are a compromise, but work as long as you don't expect commercial or dedicated mulcher mower performance. Dedicated mulchers tend to appear expensive, given that they're not as mass produced, and would be bought for commercial use, with more robust construction and higher power ratio. Shop around, but dont dismiss 3 in 1 either, I've seen perfect results from a little 18" Homelite mower, used in a typical small semi garden, once you cut often and not too low. Equally, I've seen awful results from a 21" bagger in mulch mode, struggling to clear the cut grass, straining the engine, clogging and depositing big lumps.
    Heres an affordable 20" manual push mulcher/side discharge mower from Brodericks in Rathcoole, €389
    http://www.adverts.ie/21229167


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  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭TPMP


    deezell wrote: »
    A dedicated mulch mower has specific blades for the job and deck aerodynamics optimised for the recutting of the grass and even depositing of the mulch back onto the cut surface. The extra power required to mulch well and drive the mulch into the thatch would ideally require a higher power to cut width ratio. Collector mowers with a mulch function are a compromise, but work as long as you don't expect commercial or dedicated mulcher mower performance. Dedicated mulchers tend to appear expensive, given that they're not as mass produced, and would be bought for commercial use, with more robust construction and higher power ratio. Shop around, but dont dismiss 3 in 1 either, I've seen perfect results from a little 18" Homelite mower, used in a typical small semi garden, once you cut often and not too low. Equally, I've seen awful results from a 21" bagger in mulch mode, struggling to clear the cut grass, straining the engine, clogging and depositing big lumps.
    Heres an affordable 20" manual push mulcher/side discharge mower from Brodericks in Rathcoole, €389
    http://www.adverts.ie/21229167

    Thanks a mill for the response. It's a bit daunting shopping around for something I don't know anything about but i'll keep the above in mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    Guy's, can anyone tell me if I should be looking at something other than a Honda HRG466SKEP mower, tennis court sized garden, is the price what I should be expecting or overkill? Mulching isn't a deal breaker, once it's self propelled I'm happy, just a friend recommended the above mower but I'd like other opinions, thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    5500 wrote: »
    Guy's, can anyone tell me if I should be looking at something other than a Honda HRG466SKEP mower, tennis court sized garden, is the price what I should be expecting or overkill? Mulching isn't a deal breaker, once it's self propelled I'm happy, just a friend recommended the above mower but I'd like other opinions, thanks

    18" cut more than enough for a tennis court sized lawn. If you want to spend €600, go ahead. For little over half that price you could get this same spec fairly robust Mountfield,
    https://www.screwfix.ie/p/mountfield-sp185-46cm-125cc-self-propelled-rotary-petrol-lawn-mower/220fy,
    or splash the same amount on this top end rechargeable EGO, https://www.lawnmowerworld.ie/product/ego-56v-battery-cordless-lawnmower-lm1701sp/ , and keep the green party happy. When all the petrol cars are banned, where will we get fuel for mowers? They'll be banned also more like.
    Honda are high end pricewise, with that little to cut, that mower will outlive you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭TPMP


    deezell wrote: »
    18" cut more than enough for a tennis court sized lawn. If you want to spend €600, go ahead. For little over half that price you could get this same spec fairly robust Mountfield,
    https://www.screwfix.ie/p/mountfield-sp185-46cm-125cc-self-propelled-rotary-petrol-lawn-mower/220fy,
    or splash the same amount on this top end rechargeable EGO, https://www.lawnmowerworld.ie/product/ego-56v-battery-cordless-lawnmower-lm1701sp/ , and keep the green party happy. When all the petrol cars are banned, where will we get fuel for mowers? They'll be banned also more like.
    Honda are high end pricewise, with that little to cut, that mower will outlive you.

    I like the look of that Mountfield. I've been doing research on lawnmowers today and came across the link below. How would that compare to the Mountfield? Is there much of a difference? To be fair, my garden is probably tennis court size so I'm thinking perhaps it's a little overkill? Is it worth the extra few bob compared to the Mountfield?

    https://www.gardenmachinery.ie/lawn-mowers/herkules-self-propelled-21-mower.html

    Many thanks in advance for any and all help..I do really appreciate it.

    Edited to say I'd primarily be looking to use the mulcher.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    TPMP wrote: »
    I like the look of that Mountfield. I've been doing research on lawnmowers today and came across the link below. How would that compare to the Mountfield? Is there much of a difference? To be fair, my garden is probably tennis court size so I'm thinking perhaps it's a little overkill? Is it worth the extra few bob compared to the Mountfield?

    https://www.gardenmachinery.ie/lawn-mowers/herkules-self-propelled-21-mower.html

    Many thanks in advance for any and all help..I do really appreciate it.

    Edited to say I'd primarily be looking to use the mulcher.
    It won't take you long to mow your virtual tennis court with this. At fastest walking speed this mower will cut about 2500 m2 in an hour, a tennis court is about 250 m2, so... 6 minutes. A bit more if you've lot of turns and obstacles. It's a decent enough big 53cm Chinese generic mower, variable speed, big capacity pattern engine (the engine in the Mountfield is a Briggs and Stratton). Put against the Honda, bit like a Dacia v a BMW, (though Beamer was the most major ticket trouble brand I ever owned). It'll be a heavy enough mower to be swinging around the many direction changes in a small site, whopping 40kg v 25kg for the Mountfield. You really don't need this monster. You'd be less taxed with a small push mower, 40-46cm cut, or self propelled if you really need it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    deezell wrote: »
    18" cut more than enough for a tennis court sized lawn. If you want to spend €600, go ahead. For little over half that price you could get this same spec fairly robust Mountfield,
    https://www.screwfix.ie/p/mountfield-sp185-46cm-125cc-self-propelled-rotary-petrol-lawn-mower/220fy,
    or splash the same amount on this top end rechargeable EGO, https://www.lawnmowerworld.ie/product/ego-56v-battery-cordless-lawnmower-lm1701sp/ , and keep the green party happy. When all the petrol cars are banned, where will we get fuel for mowers? They'll be banned also more like.
    Honda are high end pricewise, with that little to cut, that mower will outlive you.

    Thanks for that, i had hoped to pay less than the honda so Mountfield should do the trick. No stock showing anywhere with screwfix at the moment but I'll keep an eye on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    5500 wrote: »
    Thanks for that, i had hoped to pay less than the honda so Mountfield should do the trick. No stock showing anywhere with screwfix at the moment but I'll keep an eye on it

    Heres an EU site based in Italy, once popular here in its Uk version. Don't use the English one, it's f***d due to brexit. I've selected 46cm B&S self propelled in this link, use Googke translate in the browser.
    https://www.agrieuro.com/tagliaerba-scoppio-c-2_1809.html#tech1099=da%2045%20a%2047%20cm&tech1098=trazione%20posteriore&tech1015=Briggs%26Stratton&sort=price-asc
    Alpina are Stiga, italian owned brand, decent value even with delivery to ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭TPMP


    Deezell thanks a million for your help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭TPMP


    I ended up purchasing the below using the website Deezell suggested. Seems to have got pretty good reviews and very reasonable.

    https://www.agrieuro.co.uk/geotech-pro-s53-225-bmsgw-self-propelled-petrol-lawn-mower-224-cc-4-in-1-53-cm-cutting-width-p-16622.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    TPMP wrote: »
    I ended up purchasing the below using the website Deezell suggested. Seems to have got pretty good reviews and very reasonable.

    https://www.agrieuro.co.uk/geotech-pro-s53-225-bmsgw-self-propelled-petrol-lawn-mower-224-cc-4-in-1-53-cm-cutting-width-p-16622.html

    Plenty of mower for the money. Note that agrieuro UK site (currently not delivering to UK due to Brexit own goal), does not list the Stiga group mowers, (Castelgarden, Alpina, Stiga), probably due to some UK distributor monolopy, so if you want a bigger choice, use agrieuro.com, the italian parent. No fecking around with customs etc, no danger of your mower somehow going to or through UK and ending up in Dover for the summer, or with a customs charge if it was deemed a UK transaction.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,315 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Bedouin79 wrote: »
    Anybody feedback on weibang mowers tempted with their 3 in 1 or the straight mulcher

    i have an non mulching aluminum decked one - shaft drive great machine pretty basic but does the job

    only thing is the paint has peeled off the deck on the inside which is annoying considering the cost


  • Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Hi Guys,

    Is there any 30" lawnmower other than the Toro Timemaster? It's available for 1400 which is steep. I saw another large one in a shop last summer for 1250, thought it was a Stiga as it was yellow but can't seem to find it online or otherwise now.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    Hi Guys,

    Is there any 30" lawnmower other than the Toro Timemaster? It's available for 1400 which is steep. I saw another large one in a shop last summer for 1250, thought it was a Stiga as it was yellow but can't seem to find it online or otherwise now.

    Thanks.

    Pellenc rasion 2 battery mower.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,831 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    Pellenc rasion 2 battery mower.

    He said €1400 was steep. The UK price list has the self propelled Pellenc at €2,208.

    https://www.pellencuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Pellenc-UK-Price-List-Euros.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    i have an non mulching aluminum decked one - shaft drive great machine pretty basic but does the job

    only thing is the paint has peeled off the deck on the inside which is annoying considering the cost

    Apart from the difficulty of getting paint to stick to aluminium, if its not going to corrode like a steel deck, it's not a big deal if its unpainted, and the manufacturers aren't going to spend on expensive aluminium primers for the underside. A good clean and a wire brushing would suffice, prime paint or spray it after that if you want


  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭theaaao


    deezell wrote: »
    Keep the oil topped/changed, don't abuse and they'll all last a long time. GGP engine is probably made in China, but to their standard. If the mowers are identically priced, then maybe swing towards b&s, previously there was a big price difference in same Stiga group mowers with a choice of GGP, B&S and Honda engines, but they seem to have consolidated choice across all models and brands, Stiga, CG, Mountfield and Alpina, and another clone brand I forget right now. Try and see both models, and compare the feel of each. It's a bit like Lexus and Toyota, or VW and Skoda/Seat.




    Lads love the thread! Im learning loads even though Ive been doing my own research the last month on ride ons.


    What would the equivalent Stihl ride on to the Mountfield 1530h or Castlegarden xdc140? I was kind of set on a new Castlegarden hydro but now Im torn again as I think I saw you mention someplace in the thread that stihl are a better quality these days.

    Budget is around the €2500 mark, but again if its something that will last the test of time I might stretch a bit...


    In terms of shopping around to get best price, do lawnmower dealers mind it when you come to them for a service afterwards? Seeing as you haven't purchased from them day one...


    When buying new, how long would you need to bring a ride on to an official dealer for servicing in terms of keeping it in warranty? Id be keen to do my own maintenance as much as possible.



    Any info from the group is welcome!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭deezell


    theaaao wrote: »
    Lads love the thread! Im learning loads even though Ive been doing my own research the last month on ride ons.


    What would the equivalent Stihl ride on to the Mountfield 1530h or Castlegarden xdc140? I was kind of set on a new Castlegarden hydro but now Im torn again as I think I saw you mention someplace in the thread that stihl are a better quality these days.

    Budget is around the €2500 mark, but again if its something that will last the test of time I might stretch a bit...


    In terms of shopping around to get best price, do lawnmower dealers mind it when you come to them for a service afterwards? Seeing as you haven't purchased from them day one...


    When buying new, how long would you need to bring a ride on to an official dealer for servicing in terms of keeping it in warranty? Id be keen to do my own maintenance as much as possible.



    Any info from the group is welcome!

    At €2500, your budget is confined to the smaller cut ride on mowers, many at this size are mulchers, and many again are generic brands, big store offers like McCullough etc. The Stiga group range is probably your best option, the castegarden XD140HD (B&S engine) or the XD 150HD (Stiga ggp engine) are identical, the GGP engine a more basic workhorse, the smaller but worthy B&S engine might be the wiser choice. The smallest Stihl in a bagger tractor us a step up, the RT5097, bigger cut, bigger engine, different class, will cost an extra €1k if you shop around. The Husqvarna TC138 is close to your budget, if you can find one in stock, there were a few negative posts about Huskys last year, but they're a premium brand in the scheme of things.
    No mower shop will refuse business! If its warranty conditional, check with the supplier for approval. I'm assumimg you're thinking of importing. Agrieuro have designated service partners. Generally, there are some service conditions, e.g., a 2 year warranty would likely require a winter service. A one year warranty is statutory, unless you used the machine commercially, which is unlikely. Bigger mowers with hour recorders might have service intervals based on this. It wouldn't cover work damage anyway, just engine, transmission, bearings etc. You could break a brand new mower €90 timing belt in the first 5 minutes, say, catching a thatch covered root the rose up over the winter. Like I did last March (not a brand new mower, but a pith nonetheless)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Any recommendations for a cordless lawnmower?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 monkerhostin11


    Hi Guys,

    Any thoughts on this Goodyear 53 CM mower and whether it is a decent machine for the cost of €355 on Agrieuro.com? (Sorry can't post any links as I'm a new user)

    agrieuro.com/rasaerba-trazionato-goodyear-gy-53lm-raccolta-mulching-scarico-laterale-posteriore-p-18018.html

    Not able to spend a lot on a new mower, but need something fairly robust that will hopefully improve a neglected piece of land that is fairly weedy. I see this is classed as "Hobbyist" on Agrieuro, but not sure what they class as for "infrequent use"? as I would be hoping to use it regularly enough improve the grass we have on maybe 2/3rds of an acre.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Bedouin79


    Ok first world problems here no judgment please. Looking for mulcher, it’s just for the awkward cuts and cleaning up have a robot for the rest of the lawn but I do enjoy using a mower. What I need is a well proved secondhand mulcher what I keep looking at is the below 3,,

    https://monaghanhire.com/collections/push-lawnmowers/products/weibang-wb466sc-m-steel-deck-lawnmowers

    https://monaghanhire.com/collections/push-lawnmowers/products/wb536skv-m-mulching-lamnmowers

    https://lawnmowershop.ie/products/pct-walk-behind-mowers/pct-mulcher/product-jd-js63vc

    Found one secondhand in farm and plant.ie but surprise surprise it’s in England


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