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Storm Atiyah Sunday - Monday, 8th - 9th Dec 2019

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ECM 18Z

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Oh, and I of yours and everyone else also !

    What do ye think. What is the gut feeling on this.

    Looks like it is going to be one rough day I reckon. High end Orange warnings, possibly more counties coming into the Orange warning category, possibly some counties getting red warnings.

    Would think there are going to be some massive squally showers with huge dangerous and possibly damaging gusts of wind.

    Im thinking strong possibility of multiple power outages including myself.

    What do ye reckon?

    Overdoing it ?

    ECM 18Z Rapid coming out soon , might stay up to see what it has. Get a better perspective of where this is going.

    Prepare for the worst, hope for the best!!

    A little more sheltered from this angle in Kinsale thankfully. Still prepping for electricity outage. Models all seem to be increasing strength.. It will be wild out west!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    I reckon after a fairly benign last two months we are due something and it looks like this will pack a serious punch.

    I have to actually travel up to Dublin Sunday afternoon which is looking like it could be quite an interesting journey.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ECM 18C certainly straying into Red Warning territory in Atlantic coastal counties.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    COMIN ATIYAH!

    IV put extra cable ties on all the outdoor Christmas lighting,
    I hope my lights survive.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


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    They are ferocious gusts for inland Ireland if they were to occur!

    Surely the ECM isn't over doing it at this time scale, it's usually the most Conservative, if it were still showing this tomorrow I'd be seriously getting prepared inland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,229 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    That's looking hairy for West Clare, certainly worth keeping an eye on.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    They are ferocious gusts for inland Ireland if they were to occur!

    They sure are, high ground getting the strongest winds. Usually the speeds in the bold white are mountain or hill tops as in the Galteemore below matching the 145 km/h gusts. Strong winds in the windward side of it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    Looking stronger this morning. It’ll pack a good punch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    Feck it have booked Santa visit out in the woods for tomorrow evening. Think I’ll have to let my money go, because no way I’m taking small kids into woods with damaging gusts around us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    screamer wrote: »
    Feck it have booked Santa visit out in the woods for tomorrow evening. Think I’ll have to let my money go, because no way I’m taking small kids into woods with damaging gusts around us.

    If a red warning is issued would they have to cancel it and you would get your money back?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    If a red warning is issued would they have to cancel it and you would get your money back?

    I doubt it. These events can’t usually afford to refund.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ECM and ARPERGE the most consistent and showing the highest winds atm. ICON has drifted the very highest winds off the coast.

    Gusting to 130km/h and very possible to 140km/h and might get higher on a few exposed coastal stations in the W.

    Thinking probably seeing Orange for much of the country and probably red warnings in some Atlantic coastal counties.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Meteorite58,what time do u think those red warnings would kick in if they were to go red?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Meteorite58,what time do u think those red warnings would kick in if they were to go red?

    Probably from about 14.00 or 15.00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Looking at the met app, it looks like it's been downgraded to a yellow for the whole country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Warnings being updated. Still could be early for a red warning to be posted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    So why take the Atlantic coast counties off orange?
    This is the latest warning issued at 8 this morning.
    Status Yellow - Wind warning for Ireland
    UPDATE: Ahead of Storm Atiyah ( Ah-tee-ya)

    West to southwest winds will reach mean speeds of 50 to 65km/h with gusts of 90 to 110km/h in places this evening, tonight and Sunday.

    Valid: Saturday 07 December 2019 19:00 to Sunday 08 December 2019 13:00

    Issued: Saturday 07 December 2019 08:00


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    flazio wrote: »
    So why take the Atlantic coast counties off orange?
    This is the latest warning issued at 8 this morning.

    Being amended. More counties likely to go orange with the possibility of a red warning for some counties.


  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    flazio wrote: »
    Looking at the met app, it looks like it's been downgraded to a yellow for the whole country.
    What pad199207 wrote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    flazio wrote: »
    So why take the Atlantic coast counties off orange?
    This is the latest warning issued at 8 this morning.

    The yellow warning expires at 13:00 tomorrow, I assume we'll get another warning from 13:00 onwards tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Being amended. More counties likely to go orange with the possibility of a red warning for some counties.

    Yeah their website is poorly designed. Surely csn just update without taking down warnings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Cork added to the orange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Then it makes no sense to downgrade if it's actually going to be worse. If this was the only time somebody checks the weather forecast, they could be lured into a false sense of security.
    Some event that could go ahead in a yellow but get called off in an orange is theoretically going ahead.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Cork added to the orange.

    Yeah seems the only change. Far too early for red warnings better wait until later this afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    Entire west coast gone orange now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Yeah seems the only change. Far too early for red warnings better wait until later this afternoon.

    Yeah I was thinking the same although they do suggest gusts of 130kmh or higher in exposed areas so they not far off a red.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Yeah I was thinking the same although they do suggest gusts of 130kmh or higher in exposed areas so they not far off a red.

    Unless showing further inland they usually don’t go red it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Little snowy old me


    Mother lives in an exposed area in Co. Donegal. We are evacuating her to my sister's house. The house is sturdy but it's the sea that worries us. I witnessed swells reaching the back door during storms in the past.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    corsav6 wrote: »
    Entire west coast gone orange now.

    Why had Trump been swimming in the sea at Doonbeg again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    This storm is coinciding with low tides reducing the risk of flooding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Little snowy old me


    Discodog wrote: »
    This storm is coinciding with low tides reducing the risk of flooding.

    That's a relief. Bizarre to see seaweed and other marine debris in the garden and caught on the hawthorn bushes following a swell. Last significant time was 2014. I remember back in the mid 1970s there was a really bad storm and the sea reached the back window sills. All lino and carpets were ruined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Discodog wrote: »
    This storm is coinciding with low tides reducing the risk of flooding.

    Galway tide Sunday 3pm not good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,597 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Galway tide Sunday 3pm not good

    5 meter swell forecast for Lahinch tomorrow, combine this with severe onshore winds and it could be a big test for the new coastal defenses. Unprotected coastlines will take a big pounding from this and Salthill is guaranteed to flood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Discodog wrote: »
    This storm is coinciding with low tides reducing the risk of flooding.

    Where is the location for low tides that you posted


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Galway tide Sunday 3pm not good

    Yes but its a fairly low high tide. Just 4.3m. I think Salthill will get some flooding but nothing we haven't seen before. They'll close the road too. The worst of the storm will come as the tide is receding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Where is the location for low tides that you posted

    I guess they were on about the low tides around 9pm or so in Lahinch? It's the mid afternoon hight tide that will be the issue though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    endainoz wrote: »
    I guess they were on about the low tides around 9pm or so in Lahinch? It's the mid afternoon hight tide that will be the issue though.

    Lahinch HT is 2:47pm. Just 3.8m which is low. A meter makes a big difference in storm surges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So cork is in the orange wind warning now. In an orange warning in general not this storm in particular is the likelihood of power cuts high ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So cork is in the orange wind warning now. In an orange warning in general not this storm in particular is the likelihood of power cuts high ?

    Yes very possible particular in coastal areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Where is the location for low tides that you posted

    Relatively low. Galway

    Sat. 4.1
    Sun. 4.3
    Mon. 4.5

    A lot depends on wind direction.

    Can someone remind me. Are Arpege local times the same as here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Never saw a storm thread so quite bit of an anti climax so far

    People aren't concerned about the West :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Storm 10 wrote: »

    Confused with this on breaking news we are already in Orange in the nine counties are they upgrading the current yellows


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭171170


    Looking on the bright side, the Shannon Radar hasn't crashed - yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭piplip87


    I'd say they have to be fairly careful with these warnings. As I'd imagine alot Christmas light turn ons are tonight or tomorrow night. I'd imagine plenty these bring plenty of money to small towns and villages. I know it's one of the busier nights up my way. So they would want to get the warning right on this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    First proper storm since moving home to mayo
    Quite an elevated site exposed to w/sw........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,229 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Confused with this on breaking news we are already in Orange in the nine counties are they upgrading the current yellows

    No, they're simply saying that the yellow currently in place (which it's not, but that's beside the point) will change to Orange in 9 countries tomorrow.

    Very very poorly written piece.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭endainoz


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    No, they're simply saying that the yellow currently in place (which it's not, but that's beside the point) will change to Orange in 9 countries tomorrow.

    Very very poorly written piece.

    It's the Irish Independent, what else would you expect? The other rags will jump on the bandwagon later on I reckon.


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