Meta Quest

Shlippery · 24-07-2019 11:59am

mrcheez wrote: »

Thrill of the Fight is coming to Quest soon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/cflr9y/the_thrill_of_the_fight_has_been_approved_for/

This is hands down the best VR fitness app on any platform and perfect for Quest.

Also a good way of testing the guardian / how sturdy your walls really are.

mrcheez · 26-07-2019 10:45am

Half Life is releasing on Oculus Quest next Monday!

https://www.lambda1vr.com/

Needs sidequest

Lord Spence · 19-09-2019 11:47am

So is everyone still enjoying their quest? Ya think there will be a sale or price cut anytime soon, Possible black friday reduction maybe?

mrcheez · 19-09-2019 3:17pm

Lord Spence wrote: »

So is everyone still enjoying their quest? Ya think there will be a sale or price cut anytime soon, Possible black friday reduction maybe?

Won't be any sales yet as they are selling the Quest at a loss, so relying on full-price software sales to balance it out.

Yep I'm still enjoying mine, when not playing with one of the other 7 or so consoles/PCs I have backlogs on

Lord Spence · 19-09-2019 4:36pm

mrcheez wrote: »

Won't be any sales yet as they are selling the Quest at a loss, so relying on full-price software sales to balance it out.

Yep I'm still enjoying mine, when not playing with one of the other 7 or so consoles/PCs I have backlogs on

Hold off so for black Friday, already have a psvr but the cables and tracking are just annoying. A little disappointed by the current game catalogue for quest but hopefully that improves over time.

mrcheez · 19-09-2019 5:50pm

We've all been here at some point

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/d6fse5/guy_tries_to_jump_over_vr_fence/

Oafley Jones · 25-09-2019 8:21pm

mrcheez wrote: »

We've all been here at some point

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/d6fse5/guy_tries_to_jump_over_vr_fence/

So, in what is possibly the saviest moves I’ve seen in long time, oculus have announced oculus link. Whereby you can hook your Quest up to a desktop PC and use it as a Rift.

mrcheez · 25-09-2019 9:02pm

Oafley Jones wrote: »

So, in what is possibly the saviest moves I’ve seen in long time, oculus have announced oculus link. Whereby you can hook your Quest up to a desktop PC and use it as a Rift.

Mother of God.

Is there any reason to buy a Rift S now?

mrcheez · 25-09-2019 9:03pm

https://www.oculus.com/blog/introducing-hand-tracking-on-oculus-quest-bringing-your-real-hands-into-vr/

What. A. Day.

Lord Spence · 26-09-2019 10:33am

mrcheez wrote: »

Mother of God.

Is there any reason to buy a Rift S now?

Minor visual improvements apparently is the only reason to own a rift over a quest. No Brainer to buy the quest now

alchemist33 · 26-09-2019 10:38am

Looks like the Quest is €100 cheaper on US Amazon, even with shipping fees. I'm also going to be in the US for Black Friday. Where would folks here think is the best option for getting one?

mrcheez · 26-09-2019 11:19am

alchemist33 wrote: »

Looks like the Quest is €100 cheaper on US Amazon, even with shipping fees. I'm also going to be in the US for Black Friday. Where would folks here think is the best option for getting one?

Probably Walmart or Best Buy.... might be a bit crazy on Black Friday though.

Lord Spence · 26-09-2019 11:25am

Gonna wait until black friday myself and even thinking now it might be worth slowly building a VR capable PC

mrcheez · 26-09-2019 12:23pm

Lord Spence wrote: »

Gonna wait until black friday myself and even thinking now it might be worth slowly building a VR capable PC

Do you have any VR at the moment?

EGriff · 26-09-2019 12:30pm

Amazing upgrades, most companies would have saved these features for version 2.0, but I suspect they might be making a loss on the hardware so this is great for pushing software sales.

Shlippery · 26-09-2019 12:39pm

Nearly considered selling my Rift for Rift S...this changes things.

Lets see if Carmacks keynote at half 5/6 has anything else before make any rash decisions

Lord Spence · 26-09-2019 1:10pm

mrcheez wrote: »

Do you have any VR at the moment?

Yes I have the PSVR but probably going to sell and get a quest, I just dont play it anymore and not because of the lack of games it just the cables and so so tracking.

Oafley Jones · 26-09-2019 1:24pm

Lord Spence wrote: »

Yes I have the PSVR but probably going to sell and get a quest, I just dont play it anymore and not because of the lack of games it just the cables and so so tracking.

I've a PSVR and it rarely gets played owing to the hassle of getting it set up just right (although I did replace the camera with the V2 yesterday - what a miserable piece of design that was). Astrobot is stunning, but then you're loosing tracking in superhot, Vacation Simulator rick and morty etc.

mrcheez · 26-09-2019 1:49pm

Lord Spence wrote: »

Yes I have the PSVR but probably going to sell and get a quest, I just dont play it anymore and not because of the lack of games it just the cables and so so tracking.

ah yeah the visuals are outstanding on the Quest and it is hard to go back to PSVR after

Astrobot is one of the games that stands out graphics quality-wise though.

I tried Skyrim last month after several months hiatus and I swear I didn't remember it being so blurry... once you go clear it's hard to go back.

I still love playing my PSVR though... I just try to "look past" the lower resolution. But I have a huge backlog and this is why I stick with it.

Lord Spence · 26-09-2019 2:16pm

mrcheez wrote: »

ah yeah the visuals are outstanding on the Quest and it is hard to go back to PSVR after

Astrobot is one of the games that stands out graphics quality-wise though.

I tried Skyrim last month after several months hiatus and I swear I didn't remember it being so blurry... once you go clear it's hard to go back.

I still love playing my PSVR though... I just try to "look past" the lower resolution. But I have a huge backlog and this is why I stick with it.

Is there much of a jump in graphical quality/resolution between the quest and the psvr? Would love for the quest library to get something like skyrim or borderlands. I wish it had more AAA games available on it.

mrcheez · 26-09-2019 4:23pm

Lord Spence wrote: »

Would love for the quest library to get something like skyrim

It does now... via Oculus Link and yer PC!

Yeah big jump in graphic sharpness from PSVR.

Oafley Jones · 26-09-2019 4:37pm

mrcheez wrote: »

It does now... via Oculus Link and yer PC!

Yeah big jump in graphic sharpness from PSVR.

Would I regret getting a 64 model?

mrcheez · 26-09-2019 5:31pm

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Would I regret getting a 64 model?

I'd personally recommend the 128 GB due to the upload sizes of sideloading content (custom Beat Saber mappings, or movies etc), as you'll run out of space eventually, but many people seem happy with the 64GB.

Also if you are going to use it with a PC the storage size probably isn't that important.

mrcheez · 26-09-2019 5:52pm

Also bear in mind approx 10gb is reserved for the OS...plus many games are circa 10gb each

I think most are around 5gb though

mrcheez · 27-09-2019 12:59pm

careless sherpa · 27-09-2019 1:02pm

Is this a big step up from the go?

mrcheez · 27-09-2019 5:10pm

careless sherpa wrote: »

Is this a big step up from the go?

yeah, it's 6DoF (you stand up / sit down, or walk forward / backward and you do so in the VR world as well).

Go is only 3DoF (so you can look around, but not "move" in the VR world)

careless sherpa · 27-09-2019 5:15pm

mrcheez wrote: »

yeah, it's 6DoF (you stand up / sit down, or walk forward / backward and you do so in the VR world as well).

Go is only 3DoF (so you can look around, but not "move" in the VR world)

I bought the go when it came out but only used it a handful of times as it made me feel queasy on movement so I take it the 6dof would make me even sicker. I wanted to watch movies on it but find the kind of blur irritating after a while. Is it better for that. I can see the potential for home cinema but the go wasn't quite there yet

Doge · 27-09-2019 9:04pm

mrcheez · 27-09-2019 9:46pm

careless sherpa wrote: »

I bought the go when it came out but only used it a handful of times as it made me feel queasy on movement so I take it the 6dof would make me even sicker. I wanted to watch movies on it but find the kind of blur irritating after a while. Is it better for that. I can see the potential for home cinema but the go wasn't quite there yet

Resolution is a little better than Go and a lot better than OG Rift.

I actually like the Go for watching movies, but you need to make sure they are at least 12GB in size or 20GB for 3D.

FutureTeashock · 28-09-2019 4:42pm

Is it safe, particularly for children, to have such powerful technology so close to the brain, especially for prolonged periods? I can't help but wonder.

kerplun k · 28-09-2019 7:19pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

Is it safe, particularly for children, to have such powerful technology so close to the brain, especially for prolonged periods? I can't help but wonder.

According to a study in the Journal of Applied Psychology, Toddlers who played VR, brought what the investigators called a “heightened intellectual ability,” which came from “knowledge born of their VR experience.” So yes, VR is good for children.

I have my 2yo, playing Job Simulator for 3 hours a day, I believe this will give him a competitive edge over his peers when he enters pre school. I’ve also recently exposed him to Beat Saber for 30 minutes a day which I believe should give him acute senses, enhanced strength, speed, agility, stamina, durability, healing, and reflexes.

The One Doctor · 28-09-2019 7:27pm

kerplun k wrote: »

According to a study in the Journal of Applied Psychology, Toddlers who played VR, brought what the investigators called a “heightened intellectual ability,” which came from “knowledge born of their VR experience.” So yes, VR is good for children.

I have my 2yo, playing Job Simulator for 3 hours a day, I believe this will give him a competitive edge over his peers when he enters pre school. I’ve also recently exposed him to Beat Saber for 30 minutes a day which I believe should give him acute senses, enhanced strength, speed, agility, stamina, durability, healing, and reflexes.

You think your VR headset will give your son superpowers?

I hope your post was hyperbole tbh.

kerplun k · 28-09-2019 7:38pm

The One Doctor wrote: »

You think your VR headset will give your son superpowers?

I hope your post was hyperbole tbh.

Please don’t put words in my mouth, I never said superpowers. But yes, I do believe the VR headset will give my son enhanced abilities and a cognitive edge.

FutureTeashock · 28-09-2019 7:56pm

kerplun k wrote: »

According to a study in the Journal of Applied Psychology, Toddlers who played VR, brought what the investigators called a “heightened intellectual ability,” which came from “knowledge born of their VR experience.” So yes, VR is good for children.

I have my 2yo, playing Job Simulator for 3 hours a day, I believe this will give him a competitive edge over his peers when he enters pre school. I’ve also recently exposed him to Beat Saber for 30 minutes a day which I believe should give him acute senses, enhanced strength, speed, agility, stamina, durability, healing, and reflexes.

If he survives the brain cancer from all the radiation exposure, which was what I was referring to.

alchemist33 · 28-09-2019 8:07pm

Link not working, but a quick google shows nothing more than possible theoretical risks, akin to all the scare stories about mobile phones and masts years ago

FutureTeashock · 28-09-2019 8:11pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Link not working, but a quick google shows nothing more than possible theoretical risks, akin to all the scare stories about mobile phones and masts years ago

Yeah, for some reason I can't post links properly.

Powerful tech like this produces a lot of radiation. I don't see how that's possibly safe, especially for a child.

But if people want to plow on with this, enjoy.

mrcheez · 28-09-2019 8:18pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

Is it safe, particularly for children, to have such powerful technology so close to the brain, especially for prolonged periods? I can't help but wonder.

Most kids are stuck in smartphones for extended periods so I think it's just the way things are going

I had my face glued to the CRT TV playing Zelda in the 80s and I survived

kerplun k · 28-09-2019 8:25pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

Yeah, for some reason I can't post links properly.

Powerful tech like this produces a lot of radiation. I don't see how that's possibly safe, especially for a child.

But if people want to plow on with this, enjoy.

Your absolutely right, powerful technology like this does pose a genuine threat. While I’m not too concerned about the low levels of radiation, I am worried about mankind spending more and more time in virtual reality. The world we live in has been built on mans eagerness to impress women. That’s a given, but If you put men in a world where we are essentially gods, and you take away our hunger to impress women, I think civilization will eventually crumble.

FutureTeashock · 28-09-2019 8:26pm

mrcheez wrote: »

Most kids are stuck in smartphones for extended periods so I think it's just the way things are going

I had my face glued to the CRT TV playing Zelda in the 80s and I survived

But you weren't holding the monitor, nor was it strapped directly to your head.

It's convenient they're building a 2 billion€ hospital I guess.

mrcheez · 28-09-2019 8:47pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

But you weren't holding the monitor, nor was it strapped directly to your head.

It's convenient they're building a 2 billion€ hospital I guess.

I'd wager there was more radiation given out on an old CRT 2 foot away from you than the displays in headsets give at close range.

I'm sure these have been tested to death ('scuse the pun)

Doge · 28-09-2019 8:59pm

Bah, radiation my arse. A Vr Headset will not give off more radiation than your 5ghz WiFi connection and 4g data connection.

My parents said playing video games back in the days of CRT monitors would give me square eyes yet since being addicted to playing video games on the c64 since the age of 5, to this day at 35 years of age I have still retained 20/20 vision.

Hand an eye coordination is essential for any type of job that involves using your hands or controlling something.

So of course VR will speed up the process for a 2 year old.

I know rally and track racing drivers that started off in sim racing and VR and they found it very beneficial and had a head start.

Same goes for learning to fly planes with flight simulators.

The more VR is adapted for training and education the better.

I can remember surgeons used a Wii motion controller to train how to do surgery virtually back in the day.

Of course the only real risk is of the 2 year old getting addicted to VR so its upto the parent to limit they're time, but the same thing is happening with smart phones and tablets.

And VR headsets are a bit cumbersome for extended wear so I don't see it as much of an issue.

Kerplun K I would love to hear updates about your 2 year old using VR, I think it's fascinating and would love hear about their development.

FutureTeashock · 28-09-2019 9:21pm

Doge wrote: »

Bah, radiation my arse. A Vr Headset will not give off more radiation than your 5ghz WiFi connection and 4g data connection.

My parents said playing video games back in the days of CRT monitors would give me square eyes yet since being addicted to playing video games on the c64 since the age of 5, to this day at 35 years of age I have still retained 20/20 vision.

Hand an eye coordination is essential for any type of job that involves using your hands or controlling something.

So of course VR will speed up the process for a 2 year old.

I know rally and track racing drivers that started off in sim racing and VR and they found it very beneficial and had a head start.

Same goes for learning to fly planes with flight simulators.

The more VR is adapted for training and education the better.

I can remember surgeons used a Wii motion controller to train how to do surgery virtually back in the day.

Of course the only real risk is of the 2 year old getting addicted to VR so its upto the parent to limit they're time, but the same thing is happening with smart phones and tablets.

And VR headsets are a bit cumbersome for extended wear so I don't see it as much of an issue.

Kerplun K I would love to hear updates about your 2 year old using VR, I think it's fascinating and would love hear about their development.

I don't use WIFI, 4G or any form of wireless tech because of the huge levels of radiation.

People are rapidly turning their homes into microwave ovens and it'll only get worse when the IOT fad kicks in. Sad.

The high horse brigade · 28-09-2019 9:34pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

I don't use WIFI, 4G or any form of wireless tech because of the huge levels of radiation.

People are rapidly turning their homes into microwave ovens and it'll only get worse when the IOT fad kicks in. Sad.

Holy sh1t we got a live one here folks!

mrcheez · 29-09-2019 8:31am

FutureTeashock wrote: »

I don't use WIFI, 4G or any form of wireless tech because of the huge levels of radiation.

People are rapidly turning their homes into microwave ovens and it'll only get worse when the IOT fad kicks in. Sad.

Name checks out. What the hell is in that tea?

mrcheez · 04-10-2019 11:09am

Got 10 free apps last night after the "eligible upgrades from Go to Quest" went live.

Score!

Also got Dreadhalls for free as I have it on Rift... I think this is going to be the scariest way to play it as the wire was always something that took me out of the experience.

mrcheez · 25-10-2019 12:17am

Thrill of the Fight is out for Quest. The killer app!

And it's cheap FFS. Madness!

Doge · 25-10-2019 2:25am

mrcheez wrote: »

Thrill of the Fight is out for Quest. The killer app!

And it's cheap FFS. Madness!

Now that looks like the best boxing simulation to date.

Creed just felt arcadey and the punching didnt feel right on PSVR.

Doge · 25-10-2019 2:27am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0MuU-ZJNa4

mrcheez · 25-10-2019 11:10am

Doge wrote: »

Now that looks like the best boxing simulation to date.

Creed just felt arcadey and the punching didnt feel right on PSVR.

I've been playing it on Rift for a while, it's the best workout game bar none.

Beat Saber or whatever is a casual stroll compared to TotF

https://vrhealth.institute/portfolio/thrill-of-the-fight/

Even the practice punching bag alone section is fulfilling enough and you really feel the lateral ab core muscles at work.

When you get "punched" it actually makes you flinch and seems quite realistic

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