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Flickerfusion wrote: »

What’s worrying me is this isn’t an isolated incident in this city. There’s been a spate of stabbings over the last few months, including a cold blooded murder carried out by a teen.

There’s something going on with a notion that life is cheap. It needs to be dealt with. Cork never felt particularly unsafe to me but it has done over the last few months.

I’m also really shocked by the amount of heroin use I’ve been seeing over the last couple of years. I’ve had the horrible scene of arriving back to my car at a city centre multi-storey, to find two junkies in a stupor right next to my front wheel, having just shot up.

Also needles on the ground in car parks, even encountered one just thrown on the pavement on Patrick’s Bridge.

This isn’t a race issue. It’s a home grown Corkonian scumbag issue and it needs to be dealt with by actually having visible policing.

I’ve seen some REALLY rough stuff around town over the last few years and have reported it.
If you don’t deal with these minor incidents they can grow legs and you end up with bigger issues.

Take during the pandemic lockdown, the city centre felt almost like it had been abandoned by the authorities.

I’m not arguing for heavy handed policing, just a visible Garda presence and actually tackle antisocial behaviour.

The biggest problem isn’t the Gardai, their number or how resourced they are. It might be a factor but it’s not the biggest one.

If you want to see living proof of what the actual problem is then spend the next week or two reading the court reports for criminal cases in Cork. See how many people with convictions up to triple figures don’t get a custodial sentence for their latest contribution to the community.

The judicial system in this country is the problem.
Sentences are Overly lenient.
Repeat offending is not considered.
Courts are full of repeat offenders who don’t give a **** because the sanctions don’t match the crime.
The judges are delighted because they want full court rooms not full prisons.
Solicitors love the volume of work it generates, free legal aid coming out their ears for lads with 100plus convictions.
Gardaí doing the donkey work only to see scumbags get suspended sentences or concurrent sentences.
Early release for everyone because of capacity.

I can assure you if you follow the criminal cases for a few weeks you will be pulling your hair out at the nonsense that goes on.

Judges in this country are completely failing society at large and nothing can be done about it.

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Is that for the entire country or is that for the city alone? If for the entire county then that's a disgrace. (The site won't load correctly on mobile)

ACitizenErased wrote: »

730 Gardai in Cork City. That's split into 600 Gardai and 100 Sergeants. The two most central (and smallest by area) regions in Dublin have 1500 Gardai. The entire Cork County has 1400.

Ah yes..I only included city by mistake. My bad.
1400 is much more reasonable compared to Dublin based on respective populations and policing needs.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

And I'd say 4 of those (Douglas, Passage, Crosshaven, Carrigaline) are closed. I live in Rochestown and the local Garda always told us if we ever needed anything the only place to call is Togher. I know a fella working in Bishopstown and he's never ever there.

A lot is made of closed garda stations, but to be honest I never bother about that. Anglesea Street or Togher isn't far from the anywhere on the south side. And Anglesea Street or Gurranabraher for the north side. Cork is a small place really.
A garda station wont really stop crime...gardai will. I would prefer to see more of them around rather than spend money on buildings. Probably a simplistic attitude of course.

Some serious racist bot/sock puppet action on twitter regarding the incident last night. There's a lot wrong in Ireland, but I'm glad these clowns have no real influence here, unlike the UK and US.

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Is that for the entire country or is that for the city alone? If for the entire county then that's a disgrace. (The site won't load correctly on mobile)

Using 2016 census figures for respective populations of the two counties, Cork has one Garda for every 388 people and Dublin has one Garda for every 327 people. Putting it another way, Cork’s “Garda density” is 84% that of Dublin. Like most people posting on this thread, I know nothing about policing so I’ve no idea if that is a significant difference.

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

"...regarding the incident last night."

You mean the attempted murder?

Or would it be racist of me to phrase it that way? Maybe I'm a sock puppet?

George matters, Irish boy does not matter quite as much to you, I'm sure.

Carry on.

Cop yourself on, of course the victim matters. It was an attempted murder but he was not stabbed for being white. That was not the reason he was attacked and it was not racially motivated.

You are pushing a narrative to suit your own agenda here and it’s blatant to see.