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Morris Moss · 16-04-2021 3:06pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Ah lads - don’t tell me ye’re surprised a politician won’t give a definitive, definitive answer...

Who said anything about a politician?

Water John · 16-04-2021 4:14pm

As it is the numbers are all going in the right direction. Most of us will have at least one shot by the end of June. So what if we need an annual booster? But I think with enough of the world's pop vaccinated, Covid and its variants won't have the numbers to transmit to.

Dinzee Conlee · 16-04-2021 4:29pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Who said anything about a politician?

What?

The headline of the link quoted by Yosemite was “Taoiseach says he ‘can’t be definitive’ there won’t be another lockdown next winter“

Morris Moss · 16-04-2021 4:34pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

What?

The headline of the link quoted by Yosemite was “Taoiseach says he ‘can’t be definitive’ there won’t be another lockdown next winter“

Right, thought you were referring to my post.

Dinzee Conlee · 16-04-2021 4:37pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Right, thought you were referring to my post.

Oh, I did... prob would have made more sense all right to quite Yosemite

Morris Moss · 16-04-2021 4:41pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Ah lads - don’t tell me ye’re surprised a politician won’t give a definitive, definitive answer...

Are you surprised that we may go into lockdown next winter?

Water John · 16-04-2021 5:16pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Are you surprised that we may go into lockdown next winter?

Very, very unlikely, what would cause such a measure to be taken?

Dinzee Conlee · 16-04-2021 5:17pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Are you surprised that we may go into lockdown next winter?

Do you know Morris, I have given up listening to and reading about it.

I’ll get my jab when I can, and that’s all I can do.

I will say though, as more time goes by, the more I am beginning to actually enjoy lockdown and the simpler life it gives.

Now, I accept I might be a particular case - I am working from home, so financially not impacted. We have small kids so wouldn’t have had a hectic social life anyways. And farming is kinda my thing/hobby, so that’s business as usual too really...
Yes, it would be nice to meet friends and family. But we’ll meet them someday...

So, end of lockdown, grand. More lockdown, that’s grand too...

yosemitesam1 · 16-04-2021 5:26pm

wrangler wrote: »

You'd definitely have too many deaths with that plan and no one only Covid patients would be treated in hospitals

Allowing under 60s to get the real thing would protect the efficacy for those who need the vaccine most. Deaths would be as close to zero as you could get and any deaths or hospitalisations would be more than offset by those avoided by forcing mutations on the covid spike.
It's not much different to management of wormer resistance, fungicide resistance or plant disease resistance. Except that viruses are better suited to mutating

Nekarsulm · 16-04-2021 5:31pm

Saw a comparison graph of monthly deaths over the last five years, and since March 2020 deaths are lower every single month than in any of the preceding four years...
So the nightly death toll scare fest is just that, dramatic tabloid fodder.

Water John · 16-04-2021 5:34pm

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Allowing under 60s to get the real thing would protect the efficacy for those who need the vaccine most. Deaths would be as close to zero as you could get and any deaths or hospitalisations would be more than offset by those avoided by forcing mutations on the covid spike.
It's not much different to management of wormer resistance, fungicide resistance or plant disease resistance. Except that viruses are better suited to mutating

One would really need to know the numbers. Also not just deaths but the other health effects incl long covid. Anyhow by waiting a short while and all getting a safe vaccine seems preferable to the real thing.

yosemitesam1 · 16-04-2021 5:38pm

Water John wrote: »

One would really need to know the numbers. Also not just deaths but the other health effects incl long covid. Anyhow by waiting a short while and all getting a safe vaccine seems preferable to the real thing.

What if we see massive erosions on the vaccine efficacy arise? They will be everywhere before they are anywhere when they do arise and then what? Hide under the bed until the new reformulated vaccine is roled out and repeat indefinitely with ever greater diversity arising

Morris Moss · 16-04-2021 6:28pm

Water John wrote: »

Very, very unlikely, what would cause such a measure to be taken?

I'm wondering that myself, I thought vaccination was the golden bullet.

Morris Moss · 16-04-2021 6:31pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Do you know Morris, I have given up listening to and reading about it.

I’ll get my jab when I can, and that’s all I can do.

I will say though, as more time goes by, the more I am beginning to actually enjoy lockdown and the simpler life it gives.

Now, I accept I might be a particular case - I am working from home, so financially not impacted. We have small kids so wouldn’t have had a hectic social life anyways. And farming is kinda my thing/hobby, so that’s business as usual too really...
Yes, it would be nice to meet friends and family. But we’ll meet them someday...

So, end of lockdown, grand. More lockdown, that’s grand too...

I think that's called Stockholm syndrome Dinzee.

Nekarsulm · 16-04-2021 6:41pm

Found it.

I was wrong, onemonth is much higher, April 2020 is 30% up.
Which is probably the virus running riot in nursing homes and care facilities.

Say my name · 16-04-2021 6:50pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Found it.

I was wrong, onemonth is much higher, April 2020 is 30% up.
Which is probably the virus running riot in nursing homes and care facilities.

I was wondering if you were going to spot that after your previous message.

If anything that graph shows an upward trend in deaths in the first few months of 2020 culminating with April when lockdown measures brought them down from there on.
No wonder the authorities were getting worried looking at those numbers.

Water John · 16-04-2021 7:12pm

The figures are interesting. We must factor in the effects of social distancing on other contagious viruses and bacteria also, although probably the absence of influenza would be the main one, in suppressing numbers from April 2020 onwards, countering Covid deaths.

yosemitesam1 · 16-04-2021 7:14pm

Say my name wrote: »

I was wondering if you were going to spot that after your previous message.

If anything that graph shows an upward trend in deaths in the first few months of 2020 culminating with April when lockdown measures broughtsummer brought them down from there on.
No wonder the authorities were getting worried looking at those numbers.

Fixed that for you

Dinzee Conlee · 16-04-2021 7:17pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

I think that's called Stockholm syndrome Dinzee.

Ah no Morris...

Don’t be trying to shoot me down, cos I’m not not on the ‘Boo to lockdown’ wagon...

Lockdown has made me appreciate the simpler things in life... I don’t see why that should be defined as Stockholm Syndrome...

Would it be better if COVID never happened - yes.
But it’d be better if we didn’t have crime or lots of other things, but unfortunately that’s not the world we live in...

Water John · 16-04-2021 7:18pm

On the evidence so, summer continued right into December. Knew it was a lovely year.

_Brian · 16-04-2021 7:32pm

Daughter is close contact of positive case in school.
Notified from school at 1pm.

First test done by 5:30

Something like 19 close contacts in the year from one case.

Water John · 16-04-2021 7:34pm

Hopefully fine, doesn't seem to spread too much in young people.

_Brian · 16-04-2021 7:35pm

Water John wrote: »

Hopefully fine, doesn't seem to spread too much in young people.

Yea schools seem to have it well controlled.
Last time there was a case there was no spread within the school.

Morris Moss · 16-04-2021 7:35pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Ah no Morris...

Don’t be trying to shoot me down, cos I’m not not on the ‘Boo to lockdown’ wagon...

Lockdown has made me appreciate the simpler things in life... I don’t see why that should be defined as Stockholm Syndrome...

Would it be better if COVID never happened - yes.
But it’d be better if we didn’t have crime or lots of other things, but unfortunately that’s not the world we live in...

Ha sorry twas meant as a joke, anyway each to their own.

wrangler · 16-04-2021 7:41pm

_Brian wrote: »

Yea schools seem to have it well controlled.
Last time there was a case there was no spread within the school.

A Tullamore school had a sick child sent to school first day back, tested positive for covid, teacher and class now have to stay at home and be tested.
Snowflakes the lot of em.
This in a town that has five times the national average, you couldn't make it up really

Donegalforever · 16-04-2021 7:47pm

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/taoiseach-says-he-cant-be-definitive-there-wont-be-another-lockdown-next-winter-40318747.html

Excellent news. The only way we will see the end of covid is when the majority of people get fed up. But that seems to be an awful long way off yet...

"MeHole" is rather discouraging.

dh1985 · 16-04-2021 11:16pm

wrangler wrote: »

A Tullamore school had a sick child sent to school first day back, tested positive for covid, teacher and class now have to stay at home and be tested.
Snowflakes the lot of em.
This in a town that has five times the national average, you couldn't make it up really

Why what would you think would be best practice in this situation. If I recall correctly from this thread anyone that is out and about your calling them reckless and looking for heads on plates and that there entitled snowflakes that cant follow the rules and then when a school has a confirmed case and close contacts and need to isolate to follow government guidelines, they are snowflakes also. Kids going to school, doing what's asked of them. To be honest wrangler it comes across that have a serious chip on your shoulder with the younger generation for some reason. Maybe its because you are painting them with that big snowflake brush you have in hand

Dinzee Conlee · 17-04-2021 12:33am

dh1985 wrote: »

Why what would you think would be best practice in this situation. If I recall correctly from this thread anyone that is out and about your calling them reckless and looking for heads on plates and that there entitled snowflakes that cant follow the rules and then when a school has a confirmed case and close contacts and need to isolate to follow government guidelines, they are snowflakes also. Kids going to school, doing what's asked of them. To be honest wrangler it comes across that have a serious chip on your shoulder with the younger generation for some reason. Maybe its because you are painting them with that big snowflake brush you have in hand

Was the kid just sick, or had already tested positive?

Tested positive - definitely stay at home.

Sick - should have been kept at home as well really. But you know yourself, hard to gauge at times...

wrangler · 17-04-2021 7:22am

dh1985 wrote: »

Why what would you think would be best practice in this situation. If I recall correctly from this thread anyone that is out and about your calling them reckless and looking for heads on plates and that there entitled snowflakes that cant follow the rules and then when a school has a confirmed case and close contacts and need to isolate to follow government guidelines, they are snowflakes also. Kids going to school, doing what's asked of them. To be honest wrangler it comes across that have a serious chip on your shoulder with the younger generation for some reason. Maybe its because you are painting them with that big snowflake brush you have in hand

I was criticising sending them to school when they're sick. Yea , they were asked to go to school but asked to stay at home if there was any doubt that they were well, they have everyone at home now. Just because all schoolchildrens parents are in their thiries it doesn't mean that there's no parents at risk, a local parent has had to be resusitated twice in the last ten years and their 5 year old brought Covid home from the school before Christmas
They've disrupted the school again after a year of disruptions.
The people that are acting the brat are extending it for everyone, the people that think they are entitled to holidays, how many positives have been in the mandatory quarantine hotels, Disregarding the rules is selfish.
It's alright for public servants, they'll be paid whether or which, it's alright for farmers as theyre not majorly affected, but it doesn't mean that farmers or public servants can act the brat and extend it for those that have to live on 350 covid payment.

Say my name · 17-04-2021 12:08pm

Matt Watson from Carwow gets his vaccine jab.

https://youtu.be/gAJTUF-HK1g

_Brian · 17-04-2021 1:35pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Was the kid just sick, or had already tested positive?

Tested positive - definitely stay at home.

Sick - should have been kept at home as well really. But you know yourself, hard to gauge at times...

Fairness the guidance is clear.
ANY cold/flu like symptoms and a kid must stay home, both our schools have been very clear, ANY symptoms at all.

Dinzee Conlee · 17-04-2021 2:15pm

_Brian wrote: »

Fairness the guidance is clear.
ANY cold/flu like symptoms and a kid must stay home, both our schools have been very clear, ANY symptoms at all.

Oh, I know Brian...
But it’s difficult with very small kids...
You know yourself, the kids want to go to school and they don’t say they aren’t feeling 100%
Or the opposite, they say they’re sick but make a miraculous recovery come 10.00 or so - but sure we’ve all done that, but they know right now is a good time to do it

Or they happen to sneeze but say they are feeling ok, and then you have to watch em like a hawk to see was it a once-off or not...

Water John · 17-04-2021 5:48pm

OH got AZ vaccine on Thurs, doing fine, no effects TG.

whelan2 · 17-04-2021 7:07pm

Water John wrote: »

OH got AZ vaccine on Thurs, doing fine, no effects TG.

My mother got the Pfizer one yesterday afternoon. We had drama yesterday morning when an ambulance was called to her with anxiety and high blood pressure. Not a bother on her today.

wrangler · 17-04-2021 7:13pm

whelan2 wrote: »

My mother got the Pfizer one yesterday afternoon. We had drama yesterday morning when an ambulance was called to her with anxiety and high blood pressure. Not a bother on her today.

Did she get the anxiety BEFORE the Pfizer

whelan2 · 17-04-2021 7:19pm

wrangler wrote: »

Did she get the anxiety BEFORE the Pfizer

Yes . I near had a heart attack myself when I saw the ambulance going into their house. Didn't know which of them was sick. I went up in my milking gear. Wasn't allowed in as I had no mask....

wrangler · 17-04-2021 7:30pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Yes . I near had a heart attack myself when I saw the ambulance going into their house. Didn't know which of them was sick. I went up in my milking gear. Wasn't allowed in as I had no mask....

I thought you got it wrong as I woke up at 1.45 am after mine with a pounding headache and Palpitations, I sorta said I'd stay in bed till two o clock before I woke OH but the next thing it was 6am .
That was the only after effects I had

Injuryprone · 17-04-2021 7:46pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Found it.

I was wrong, onemonth is much higher, April 2020 is 30% up.
Which is probably the virus running riot in nursing homes and care facilities.

So what you're saying is that the government have done a great job in minimising the excess deaths due to covid. I'm sure they'll welcome your congratulations

wrangler · 17-04-2021 7:49pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the government have done a great job in minimising the excess deaths due to covid. I'm sure they'll welcome your congratulations

The government is in charge, right or wrong they'll plough on, this incesssant whingeing and protesting won't make a bit of difference.

paddysdream · 17-04-2021 8:04pm

wrangler wrote: »

The government is in charge, right or wrong they'll plough on, this incesssant whingeing and protesting won't make a bit of difference.

So tempted to say "Just like the IFA " but that would be maybe a bit close to the bone .

wrangler · 17-04-2021 8:06pm

paddysdream wrote: »

So tempted to say "Just like the IFA " but that would be maybe a bit close to the bone .

When you elect a commitee/government, you have to let them run the show, otherwise it'd be a farce.
That's democracy

Nekarsulm · 17-04-2021 11:33pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the government have done a great job in minimising the excess deaths due to covid. I'm sure they'll welcome your congratulations

Where did you pull that assumption from?
I didn't make up the figures, and I didn't mention the Government, let alone praise them.
I just stated that overall, deaths for the year are running at a lower number than the previous 4 years.
Now, the absence of flu this past year is probably the greatest driver in that statistic, helped by a large take-up of the flu vaccine in Winter 19, Spring 20, and the complete cessation of all social events commonly attended by senior citizens.
Mass halted, Bingo cancelled, all dancing stopped and better hygiene and awareness of the risks of germ/virus spread.
And what has happened to the trolley situation?
Any other year we would be subject to daily Media reports on 150 or 200 people being on trolleys in hospital corridors for days.
Talking to an A & E nurse who works in Cavan Hospital yesterday, busy as ever in A & E, she says, but no Covid worth talking about and nobody on trolleys.

Water John · 24-04-2021 9:06pm

Great to see 25% have got at least one shot. 41,500 vaccinations on Thurs alone.
That around a million every four weeks which is what we need to do.
65-69 getting their first shot these days. Next in line for me, hope it's soon.

wrangler · 24-04-2021 9:12pm

Water John wrote: »

Great to see 25% have got at least one shot. 41,500 vaccinations on Thurs alone.
That around a million every four weeks which is what we need to do.
65-69 getting their first shot these days. Next in line for me, hope it's soon.

OH getting her first on tuesday, but won't get the second for at least 12 week.
Indo today said we're unlikely to get any concessions until we've the second jab.
I'm getting second one on 12th may

whelan2 · 24-04-2021 9:13pm

My sister got hers today. She has ms

24-04-2021 10:02pm

Have I missed a "Ye don't need to bother with masks anymore" announcement?

In Galway this morning, which was busy, not a mask to be seen. Came home, which was much busier with the getting a head start on easing of restrictioners and definitely no masks to be seen

yosemitesam1 · 25-04-2021 6:27am

Deleted User wrote: »

Have I missed a "Ye don't need to bother with masks anymore" announcement?

In Galway this morning, which was busy, not a mask to be seen. Came home, which was much busier with the getting a head start on easing of restrictioners and definitely no masks to be seen

In shops or outside?

Shadow Dancer · 25-04-2021 8:08am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Have I missed a "Ye don't need to bother with masks anymore" announcement?

In Galway this morning, which was busy, not a mask to be seen. Came home, which was much busier with the getting a head start on easing of restrictioners and definitely no masks to be seen

Why would you wear a mask outside?
Turn off the telly lads!

25-04-2021 9:32am

No masks in shops, owners included.

Outside was outside cheek by jowl drinking in large groups, as close as in a packed pub before covid.

_Brian · 25-04-2021 10:28am

Some disaster in India lads. They’d appeared to be getting bye using ivormectin but they have a massive problem now.
Sobering to see how out of control it can get.

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