New Met Éireann Website (beta)

Joe Public · 26-11-2019 1:24pm

Mortelaro wrote: »

Why the blank radar? It's very misleading and happens all the time at the end of a loop and often during

Is the A for advisory new?

They got an award for it, what more do you want? "A" is for award

Just hope they don't bury the old radar page or we're all F&%Ked

spookwoman · 26-11-2019 1:35pm

Joe Public wrote: »

They got an award for it, what more do you want? "A" is for award

Just hope they don't bury the old radar page or we're all F&%Ked

The link to the old site has been removed I see so I'd say it wont be too long

Comhrá · 26-11-2019 1:47pm

I just received a reply this morning from ME to my request of Nov 19th re update for the radar repairs :

Hi *****,

The Shannon Radar has now resumed normal service.

Kind Regards

A****** W*****

Better (very) late than never I suppose.

Discodog · 26-11-2019 2:16pm

spookwoman wrote: »

The link to the old site has been removed I see so I'd say it wont be too long

I can still view the old site but I mainly use the new one. It's a higher resolution & updates every 5 minutes. A lot of the drizzle doesn't show on the old radar

Joe Public · 26-11-2019 2:18pm

Comhra wrote: »

I just received a reply this morning from ME to my request of Nov 19th re update for the radar repairs :

Hi *****,

The Shannon Radar has now resumed normal service.

Kind Regards

A****** W*****

I'd prefer something better than their "normal service"

zom · 27-11-2019 11:59pm

Discodog wrote: »

I can still view the old site but I mainly use the new one. It's a higher resolution & updates every 5 minutes. A lot of the drizzle doesn't show on the old radar

Old website is much easier to read with less clatter and no unnecessary information (for some crazy reason there is "Ireland" marked TWICE on new map for example). It is also much easier to animate giving better view if you try to predict rainfall movement and growth.
It may be easier on new one to see how is the weather at the moment over the place you heading to (with higher detail map) but I use Rainfall radar mostly to predict more or less if do I need my umbrella for next few hours or not.

Discodog · 28-11-2019 12:22am

zom wrote: »

Old website is much easier to read with less clatter and no unnecessary information (for some crazy reason there is "Ireland" marked TWICE on new map for example). It is also much easier to animate giving better view if you try to predict rainfall movement and growth.
It may be easier on new one to see how is the weather at the moment over the place you heading to (with higher detail map) but I use Rainfall radar mostly to predict more or less if do I need my umbrella for next few hours or not.

I find Meteoradar best for prediction.

https://meteoradar.co.uk/

Select forecast.

28-11-2019 5:41am

Met Eireann are well and truly getting on the climate change bandwagon now.......so sad.

28-11-2019 2:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Met Eireann are well and truly getting on the climate change bandwagon now.......so sad.

Yes, they need to include the fact that natural events also affect climate, just like it has done so since the planet cooled sufficiently for climate change to commence.

28-11-2019 3:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, they need to include the fact that natural events also affect climate, just like it has done so since the planet cooled sufficiently for climate change to commence.

IF Met Eireann want to be all politically correct they have no business talking about climate change because they are meteorologists not climatologists but I suppose they can use the get out of jail "all scientists agree man is causing climate change" BS and just keep the agenda going and going while it's of popular opinion, they're even teaching this rubbish science in schools instead of teaching them real science and then listening to these kids talk about it on the radio it's truly sad.

They should teach them the science of Radio and get them studying for their Ham Radio license , why ? because it's fun and because it teaches them real science , about how radio works and it can teach them to communicate to the outside world in the event of a modern communications blackout or shut down and also because without Radio they wouldn't have internet and teach them why that is, explain modern uses of radio, mobile phones, Wifi, Cell towers etc.

I was fascinated with science in School, it was my best subject but unfortunately what we were thought was also rubbish with little in the way of practical material.

Teaching about radio teaches them about electronics and how the atmosphere is responsible for global communications , they can build stuff and they can include modern digital electronics with radio and how the two together can provide say text communications to someone the far side of the planet with just a few watts of power using a simple radio and a raspberry pi.

Instead they brainwash Children and older secondary school children about climate change nonsense.

At least teach them the science of Weather, real science.

Who are these scientists ? are they all the worlds scientists or just climatologists ? pity they never come out in public and say they support the Global scam or they don't.

ronnie3585 · 28-11-2019 4:16pm

Oneiric 3 · 28-11-2019 6:17pm

Deleted User wrote: »

IF Met Eireann want to be all politically correct they have no business talking about climate change because they are meteorologists not climatologists but I suppose they can use the get out of jail "all scientists agree man is causing climate change" BS and just keep the agenda going and going while it's of popular opinion.

I tend to agree, but I imagine, as Meteorologists, that Met Eireann staff would have a far greater understanding of climate, and most certainly the Irish climate, than these so-called 'climatologists' and 'climate scientists', whom, without this climate agenda thing to cling onto, are basically not of much use or value to the functioning of society.

What even is a 'climate scientist' anyway? Seems to be a very loose term to give some sort of air of 'authority'.

Who are these scientists ? are they all the worlds scientists or just climatologists ? pity they never come out in public and say they support the Global scam or they don't.

Good question, and for some reason when I hear it asked, I am always reminded of that scene in the 'Wizard of Oz' when they uncover who the 'wizard' really is.

28-11-2019 9:39pm

Not really weather related, but a good video on long term climate change.

Well worth the 55 minutes it'll take to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yze1YAz_LYM

Climate change has become a major political issue, but few understand how climate has changed in the past and the forces that drive climate. Most people don't know that fifty million years ago there were breadfruit trees and crocodiles on the shores of the Arctic Ocean, or that 18,000 years ago there was a mile-thick glacier on Manhattan and a continuous belt of winter sea ice extending south to Cape Hatteras. The History of Climate provides context of our current climate debate and fundamental insight how the climate works.

Dr. Daniel Britt is a Professor of Astronomy and Planetary Sciences at the Department of Physics, University of Central Florida. He was educated at the University of Washington and Brown University, receiving a Ph.D. from Brown in 1991. He has had a varied career including service in the US Air Force as an ICBM missile launch officer and an economist for Boeing before going into planetary sciences. He has served on the science teams of two NASA missions, Mars Pathfinder and Deep Space 1. He was the project manager for the camera on Mars Pathfinder and has built hardware for all the NASA Mars landers.

Britt currently does research on the physical properties and mineralogy of asteroids, comets, the Moon, and Mars under several NASA grants.

zom · 10-01-2020 11:02pm

Seems like Met Eireann started removing elements from old archive.met.ie website. 3 day map is gone:

Old view from https://web.archive.org/web/20190905233907/http://archive.met.ie/:

Joe Public · 10-01-2020 11:24pm

Yes, I noticed they have been taking bits out of the older website ok

I still can't warm to the new site, I have tried but failed.

Gaoth Laidir · 10-01-2020 11:57pm

I was at the Met Éireann stand at the BTYSE today and they had a great big weather station up for grabs in a raffle!

Joe Public · 11-01-2020 12:17am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

I was at the Met Éireann stand at the BTYSE today and they had a great big weather station up for grabs in a raffle!

You should have said "how dare you steal my website, my childhood, my dreams with your empty promises" or words to that effect

zom · 04-02-2020 9:53pm

May it be final straw in a pushing users into new Met Eireann website - say goodbye to green color map:

Now we have all white Ireland (could it be just for winter maybe

:

Joe Public · 04-02-2020 10:14pm

If SF get into government they should bring the green back as a matter of priority.

Comhrá · 04-02-2020 10:21pm

zom wrote: »

May it be final straw in a pushing users into new Met Eireann website - say goodbye to green color map:

Now we have all white Ireland (could it be just for winter maybe :

That's a pretty lousy map alright. They probably want to make it as unattractive as possible in order to make people use their new website.

kavanagh_h · 05-02-2020 9:44pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

IF Met Eireann want to be all politically correct they have no business talking about climate change because they are meteorologists not climatologists but I suppose they can use the get out of jail "all scientists agree man is causing climate change" BS and just keep the agenda going and going while it's of popular opinion, they're even teaching this rubbish science in schools instead of teaching them real science and then listening to these kids talk about it on the radio it's truly sad.

They should teach them the science of Radio and get them studying for their Ham Radio license , why ? because it's fun and because it teaches them real science , about how radio works and it can teach them to communicate to the outside world in the event of a modern communications blackout or shut down and also because without Radio they wouldn't have internet and teach them why that is, explain modern uses of radio, mobile phones, Wifi, Cell towers etc.

I was fascinated with science in School, it was my best subject but unfortunately what we were thought was also rubbish with little in the way of practical material.

Teaching about radio teaches them about electronics and how the atmosphere is responsible for global communications , they can build stuff and they can include modern digital electronics with radio and how the two together can provide say text communications to someone the far side of the planet with just a few watts of power using a simple radio and a raspberry pi.

Instead they brainwash Children and older secondary school children about climate change nonsense.

At least teach them the science of Weather, real science.

Who are these scientists ? are they all the worlds scientists or just climatologists ? pity they never come out in public and say they support the Global scam or they don't.

Oh god i could listen to you all day. I could pick your brain for months on end.

Oneiric 3 · 05-02-2020 10:28pm

Comhra wrote: »

That's a pretty lousy map alright. They probably want to make it as unattractive as possible in order to make people use their new website.

Horrible looking map alright, but still easier on the eye than that one on the new site. All those town names for a start are just plain ugly and unnecessary. If people don't know where they already are on the map, then they should go back to school.

zom · 06-02-2020 10:57am

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

All those town names for a start are just plain ugly and unnecessary. If people don't know where they already are on the map

Just in case you forgot what country we are, there is "Ireland" shown TWICE - full professionalism I would say

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spookwoman · 06-02-2020 10:22pm

Not about the web page but their new Alexa app for the echo show has volume issues. This a quick video that was recorded by RTE usually by one of their presenters eg Stephen Daly and the volume is very low compared to the news etc. How hard is it to set a standardized volume for items

08-02-2020 2:11pm

Comhra wrote: »

That's a pretty lousy map alright. They probably want to make it as unattractive as possible in order to make people use their new website.

Still better than the open street map they use on the new site. Looks just silly with roads and motorways visible. A plain outline landmass is all thats required. The mobile version at m.met.ie still using a green landmass but with the new style imagery for precipitation.

HeidiHeidi · 08-02-2020 2:18pm

Does anyone know how I can switch off my location on the new website/mobile app (particularly the app)?

I clearly clicked to allow it access my location at some point, but that just means it zooms in to my third of the country when I open the forecast maps - but I want to see the whole country including west of the west coast.

I've been around the menus but can't find anywhere to deny access to my location.

tiegan · 08-02-2020 6:12pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Does anyone know how I can switch off my location on the new website/mobile app (particularly the app)?

I clearly clicked to allow it access my location at some point, but that just means it zooms in to my third of the country when I open the forecast maps - but I want to see the whole country including west of the west coast.

I've been around the menus but can't find anywhere to deny access to my location.

I just use my fingers to zoom out on the maps so you can see the whole map

HeidiHeidi · 08-02-2020 6:13pm

tiegan wrote: »

I just use my fingers to zoom out on the maps so you can see the whole map

Yeah, obviously I can do that, but I'd prefer if it would open by default to the full map.

ZX7R · 09-02-2020 11:40pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Does anyone know how I can switch off my location on the new website/mobile app (particularly the app)?

I clearly clicked to allow it access my location at some point, but that just means it zooms in to my third of the country when I open the forecast maps - but I want to see the whole country including west of the west coast.

I've been around the menus but can't find anywhere to deny access to my location.

click on the serch icon top right of screen on the app.
you will then get location lookup,my location is at the bottom turn it off.
just to note it will by default go to glassnevin Dublin.
so it will be zoomed into that location.

Poker Face · 10-02-2020 12:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The mobile version at m.met.ie still using a green landmass but with the new style imagery for precipitation.

I much rather using the old site for the radar but since they changed to the new style imagery for precipitation its showing the rain in the wrong area compared to the new radar.

HeidiHeidi · 10-02-2020 12:06pm

Poker Face wrote: »

I much rather using the old site for the radar but since they changed to the new style imagery for precipitation its showing the rain in the wrong area compared to the new radar.

Yes, I'd noticed that as well - wasn't sure if it was just a timing thing (the new site updates every 5 mins, the old only every 15) - but it's been enough to push me onto using the new site altogether

I'll miss the old one.

HeidiHeidi · 10-02-2020 12:08pm

ZX7R wrote: »

click on the serch icon top right of screen on the app.
you will then get location lookup,my location is at the bottom turn it off.
just to note it will by default go to glassnevin Dublin.
so it will be zoomed into that location.

Thanks for that - could not figure out where it was!!

Since the default is to Glasnevin, it's of no use to me as I'm in Dublin anyway. Oh well. Another reason to hate the new site.

Comhrá · 10-02-2020 12:17pm

The only good thing about this new radar display is the inclusion of sferics.

ME seem to be unable to do a good, simple radar page with proper colour scales.

They keep trying new schemes and graphics - none really satisfactory.

I find the main display on the ME homepage very frustrating to use.

zom · 10-02-2020 12:25pm

Any idea what are those colorful crosses on new map?

Poker Face · 10-02-2020 12:29pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Yes, I'd noticed that as well - wasn't sure if it was just a timing thing (the new site updates every 5 mins, the old only every 15) - but it's been enough to push me onto using the new site altogether I'll miss the old one.

I don't think its timing, it looks like old one has the rain too far to the northwest

Poker Face · 10-02-2020 12:31pm

zom wrote: »

Any idea what are those colorful crosses on new map?

I presume its Lightening Strikes, they different colors would be how long ago they happened

zom · 10-02-2020 12:45pm

Poker Face wrote: »

I presume its Lightening Strikes, they different colors would be how long ago they happened

Thanks for the clue: https://www.met.ie/climate/what-we-measure/lightning

Comhrá · 10-02-2020 2:59pm

zom wrote: »

Any idea what are those colorful crosses on new map?

They're called sferics. They indicate the location and times of recent lightning strokes. The lighter the colour, the more recent the stroke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_atmospheric

Poker Face · 10-02-2020 3:36pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Yes, I'd noticed that as well - wasn't sure if it was just a timing thing (the new site updates every 5 mins, the old only every 15) - but it's been enough to push me onto using the new site altogether I'll miss the old one.

Looks like it has been fixed.

DOCARCH · 11-02-2020 4:10pm

Is the rainfall radar stuck for anybody else? Stuck at 13.35 for me?

Scrap that....unstuck now!

Discodog · 11-02-2020 4:11pm

DOCARCH wrote: »

Is the rainfall radar stuck for anybody else? Stuck at 13.35 for me?

Ok for me.

Oneiric 3 · 09-06-2020 12:58pm

Very sad to read this:

https://www.met.ie/martin-sweeney-r-i-p-met-eireann-voluntary-weather-observer-for-over-50-years

Still have a copy of his ‘ Climate of Straide, 1963 to 1999 and Weather Extremes in Mayo during the 20th Century’. Fascinating read. He was a real weather enthusiast by all accounts and someone who clearly loved his job for its own sake.

Comhrá · 21-07-2020 10:11am

What's the issue with all the false sferics randomly showing up on the ME radar page?

I've noticed them regularly, when it's pretty obvious from current met conditions there's no lightning activity anywhere in or around the country.

This image is from this morning's display on the old website. The new site shows similar spurious sferics. Strange that it can't be rectified. Could be very misleading if the present weather conditions were more conducive to thunderstorms.

21-07-2020 11:41am

Comhra wrote: »

What's the issue with all the false sferics randomly showing up on the ME radar page?

I've noticed them regularly, when it's pretty obvious from current met conditions there's no lightning activity anywhere in or around the country.

This image is from this morning's display on the old website. The new site shows similar spurious sferics. Strange that it can't be rectified. Could be very misleading if the present weather conditions were more conducive to thunderstorms.

What's the link to the old site, the new one bugs the crap out of me.

Comhrá · 21-07-2020 11:46am

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the link to the old site, the new one bugs the crap out of me.

http://archive.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp

octo · 21-07-2020 11:53am

https://www.met.ie/climate/what-we-measure/lightning

Lightning

The ATDnet Lightning Detection System is optimised for detecting cloud-to-ground lightning strokes and flashes rather than cloud lightning (inter-cloud and intra-cloud lightning). The majority of lightning occurs in the storm cloud itself or between clouds. On average approximately 10 to 20 percent of all lightning over Ireland are cloud-to-ground strikes.

Lightning locations are sourced from the WMO SFERIC (SFUK) messages. Some atmospherics may not be detected. Isolated spurious returns can also occur. Detection efficiency is variable, ATDnet is capable of detecting in excess of 90% of cloud-to-ground lightning flashes over Ireland. Typical location accuracy is estimated to be around 1–3km, or less.

Comhra wrote: »

What's the issue with all the false sferics randomly showing up on the ME radar page?

I've noticed them regularly, when it's pretty obvious from current met conditions there's no lightning activity anywhere in or around the country.

This image is from this morning's display on the old website. The new site shows similar spurious sferics. Strange that it can't be rectified. Could be very misleading if the present weather conditions were more conducive to thunderstorms.

JCX BXC · 21-07-2020 1:09pm

Were they showing up on Netweather at the same time?

Heighway61 · 21-07-2020 1:37pm

met.ie seem to report the same as Net Weather, who use ADT.

vidur.is were reporting strikes at that time, with a few more. Not sure if they use ADT, so if both were reporting strikes at the time they might not have been spurious.

21-07-2020 2:00pm

Comhra wrote: »

http://archive.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp

Ah thanks, I lost it, how refreshing.

pauldry · 21-07-2020 3:58pm

Met Eireanns rainfall forecast is behind schedule too

Rainfall currently is what theyve predicted for 4am

I tell ya, ya wouldnt want to be a farmer depending on them to bring in the hay.

New Met Éireann Website (beta)

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