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General MMA Chat/News mk2

  • 13-01-2016 10:20pm
    #1
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭


    The old thread was nearing 10,000 posts so it needed to be closed.
    So here's the shiny new thread. Try not to break it. :pac:
    Usual forum rules apply.

    Link to the old thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056059510


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  • #2
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Let's go BJ!!!

    Seriously don't want him coming back after that horrific performance against Frankie but if he does, i hope he smashes Lentz. Really, who giva shiddabout Nik Lentz...


  • #3
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    WAR BJ


  • #4
    Gamb!t
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    He's too big' - Jose Aldo critical of 'lucky' Conor McGregor's growing influence within UFC

    It’s been just short of a month since Conor McGregor brought a concussive conclusion to Aldo’s five year reign as featherweight champion at UFC 194 and, in the interim, there’s hardly been a peep out of the taciturn Brazilian.

    However, when it was finally confirmed last night that McGregor would face lightweight kingpin Rafael Dos Anjos at UFC 197 on March 5, Aldo evidently thought the time was apt to break his silence.

    Of course, he may have still been holding on to the flimsy hope that the UFC would afford him the opportunity to avenge his first loss in over a decade, even if it did take ‘Mystic Mac’ a meagre 13 seconds to dethrone him.

    Or, maybe he wasn’t. Because the former champion has claimed that the UFC had promised the victor of his bout with McGregor an immediate crack at the lightweight crown, but with one caveat; the successful party must first vacate the featherweight title.

    However, upon their return to 145lbs, they’d receive an immediate crack at the belt.

    "When we signed the contract, the plan was that the winner would move up to lightweight and vacate the featherweight belt. That's what they told us,” Aldo said to Portal Do Vale Tudo.

    "Whether we won or lost the lightweight bout, when we moved back down we'd get the immediate title shot. I think they gave him (McGregor) too much leeway and now he's gotten too big.”

    Aldo went on to say that the brash Dubliner is now yielding an inordinate amount of influence within the upper echelons of the UFC, and then swiftly turned his attention to company president Dana White.

    Historically, Aldo and White have had a tempestuous relationship and the former has now joined a long list of fighters to state that the latter has reneged on a promise apparently made in earnest.

    The Rio resident said that in the immediate aftermath of his loss to McGregor, White informed him that he and Frankie Edgar would fight for the featherweight title because the Irishman would be making the divisional migration, though without his newly-minted belt in tow.

    "Right after the fight, Dana came to the locker room and told us that the next fight would be against Frankie for the title and that Conor was moving up to lightweight because he was struggling to make weight."

    Aldo was adamant that he and the SBG man would cross paths again and that the outcome would be radically different.

    "I obviously want a rematch, especially because we didn't even fight. Neither of us fought, he connected with one punch and the fight was over. Beautiful, congratulations to him but that's not what anyone expected from the fight.”

    "I don't live my life thinking about that, though. I always live my life focusing on tomorrow, on what's ahead. It doesn't matter if it's a rematch or a title fight against somebody else but I know we'll fight again one day and I'm going to win this time. I know I have the ability.

    "What's next for me is another fight and I won't accept any fight that's not for the belt."

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/mma/hes-too-big-jose-aldo-critical-of-lucky-conor-mcgregors-growing-influence-within-ufc-34361780.html


  • #5
    ASOT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    There's Litrally no lemons left in Brazil, between Aldo, RDA, Wandi & Pederneiras. Absolute sour *****.


  • #6
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    ASOT wrote: »
    There's Litrally no lemons left in Brazil, between Aldo, RDA, Wandi & Pederneiras. Absolute sour *****.


    Imagine if one of them beat Conor,we would not hear the end of it,wandy has lost his mind completely them early fights have damaged the brain almost feel sorry for him because he was a legend back in the day.


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  • #7
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    ASOT wrote: »
    There's Litrally no lemons left in Brazil, between Aldo, RDA, Wandi & Pederneiras. Absolute sour *****.

    Don't forget barao there now


  • #8
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    BREAKING: Mickey Gall to fight Michael Jackson at UFC 196.

    If Gall wins he fights CM Punk!

    First BJ Penn v Nik Lentz, now this, The MMA gods have given us two late presents.


  • #9
    mmapk
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭mmapk


    TimRiggins wrote: »
    BREAKING: Mickey Gall to fight Michael Jackson at UFC 196.

    If Gall wins he fights CM Punk!

    First BJ Penn v Nik Lentz, now this, The MMA gods have given us two late presents.

    I Guess MJ will Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' #Thriller


  • #10
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    mmapk wrote: »
    I Guess MJ will Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' #Thriller

    Will he choose Black or White reebok shorts?


  • #11
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Who are Gall and Jackson exactly?


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  • #12
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Mellor wrote: »
    Who are Gall and Jackson exactly?

    Gall was picked from that new show Looking for a fight, he knew Dana was at the fight and it was his pro debut. He called out CM Punk after.

    Jackson is a famous singer IIRC.


  • #13
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Jackson is a famous singer IIRC.
    Lol, that did cross my mind when I posted. I assume he was off looking for a fighter too then


  • #14
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Holograms in the UFC? Sounds a bit more like a bellator thing to be honest


  • #15
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Tom Lawlor Vs Corey Anderson confirmed for UFC 197.

    Is this Lawlor's 1st fight udner reebok deal? I'm going to miss his weigh in & octagon walk outfits :mad:

    TimRiggins wrote: »
    Will he choose Black or White reebok shorts?

    It doesn't matter if its black or white. He can't Beat It. He's bad.

    Lads on these Michael Jackson jokes....Don't stop till ya get enough!


  • #16
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Devastator wrote: »
    Tom Lawlor Vs Corey Anderson confirmed for UFC 197.

    Is this Lawlor's 1st fight udner reebok deal? I'm going to miss his weigh in & octagon walk outfits :mad:




    It doesn't matter if its black or white. He can't Beat It. He's bad.

    Lads on these Michael Jackson jokes....Don't stop till ya get enough!

    Nah he already has one, ko'd Gian Villante as far as I can remember, tried to wear a McGregor fight kit for the weigh ins but they werent able to get one in time or something


  • #17
    ASOT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Great response by Lentz

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/1/13/10764972/nik-lentz-issues-statement-in-response-to-b-j-penns-callout

    "You can go to Greg Jackson's, you can go to Jermaine Jackson's, you can listen to Mahalia Jackson, you can resurrect Jackson ****in' POLLOCK to paint you a better picture of yourself than the one we all see; but..."


  • #18
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    RDA confirmed he was fined 10k for wearing another sponsors top at weigh ins. That's a big chunk of change.


  • #19
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Is it a flat recurring fee or does it escalate per offense e.g. 10k first time, 15k second etc.

    Might be worth absorbing the fine if the sponsor is paying you a rake of cash to begin with.


  • #20
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    MagicIRL wrote: »
    Is it a flat recurring fee or does it escalate per offense e.g. 10k first time, 15k second etc.

    Might be worth absorbing the fine if the sponsor is paying you a rake of cash to begin with.

    Well Cowboy said he if he violates the rule again, he won't be allowed fight...


  • #21
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Might be worth just the one hit then.


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  • #22
    ASOT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Well Cowboy said he if he violates the rule again, he won't be allowed fight...

    Let's be honest though that wont happen, he has massive leverage with the ufc by the fact that he fights every week and is a massive draw, they would want to be careful he would without a doubt go to Bellator.


  • #23
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,453 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    ASOT wrote: »
    Let's be honest though that wont happen, he has massive leverage with the ufc by the fact that he fights every week and is a massive draw, they would want to be careful he would without a doubt go to Bellator.

    How many fights does he have on his deal though?

    If they wanted (and they do seem to be stubborn as hell on the Reebok deal), they could tie him up for years if he refuse to fight without the patch.


  • #24
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Depp wrote: »
    Nah he already has one, ko'd Gian Villante as far as I can remember, tried to wear a McGregor fight kit for the weigh ins but they werent able to get one in time or something

    Oh really? I can't remember that. I think if reebok were a little more lenient, maybe even just for weigh in outfits then they would have a few more fighters onside.
    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Well Cowboy said he if he violates the rule again, he won't be allowed fight...

    I thought he said he would continue to wear the patch regardless and take the fines because its for his granny or something?
    ASOT wrote: »
    Let's be honest though that wont happen, he has massive leverage with the ufc by the fact that he fights every week and is a massive draw, they would want to be careful he would without a doubt go to Bellator.
    DrPhilG wrote: »
    How many fights does he have on his deal though?

    If they wanted (and they do seem to be stubborn as hell on the Reebok deal), they could tie him up for years if he refuse to fight without the patch.

    Reebok could do themselves a few favors by starting to introduce a bit of personalisation into fighter kits. Even some different colours(like McGregor had green for Aldo fight) or allow the likes of Cowboy to have a small patch or their national flag sewn into the shorts. ATM everyones t-shirts etc all look the same


  • #25
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Devastator wrote: »
    I thought he said he would continue to wear the patch regardless and take the fines because its for his granny or something?

    Yupp, he said 'so...we'll see'. He's the wrong guy to try make an example out of, silly Reebok.


  • #26
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Yupp, he said 'so...we'll see'. He's the wrong guy to try make an example out of, silly Reebok.

    True although I read reebok passed the buck and said it wasn't upto them over recent fines and it was a UFC decsion....either way [pulp fiction mode] they picked the wrong.....to f*** with :D


    I think the idea of the reebok deal making the UFC look more professional is absolute balls anyway when you look at the octagon. Its covered in various sponsors and IMO defeats the purpose


  • #27
    weemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Reebok deal has to be one of the worst decisions the UFC bosses have ever made, if not the worst.


  • #28
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Where is this fine money going? ufc coffers no doubt,as cowboy said give it to charity.


  • #29
    weemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Where is this fine money going? ufc coffers no doubt,as cowboy said give it to charity.

    I doubt there's much money in it tbh. I vaguely recall reading that the profits from the deal all go to fighters and little/none of the cash goes to the UFC. I also don't believe that for a second.

    Reebok can't be making any money from MMA gear sales so far tho, who the hell would buy it? Every shirt and pair of shorts looks the same bar the fighters name on it. Garbage.


  • #30
    LaGlisse
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭LaGlisse


    Anyone know when the BT deal with ufc ends?


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  • #31
    maximoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


    August as far as I know, interesting to see what happens with it.


  • #32
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    maximoose wrote: »
    August as far as I know, interesting to see what happens with it.


    Lets just hope sly sports don't get it otherwise we'll see some big events become PPV. They've ramped up their PPV boxing recently and some of the cards have been pathetic.


  • #33
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    I highly doubt a PPV model will work over here given the frequency of UFC events and the American time difference.


  • #34
    maximoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


    They've been giving the UFC (well, Conor) a lot more coverage in their news lately, makes me wonder if they'll be pushing for the rights.


  • #35
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    ASOT wrote: »
    Great response by Lentz

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/1/13/10764972/nik-lentz-issues-statement-in-response-to-b-j-penns-callout

    "You can go to Greg Jackson's, you can go to Jermaine Jackson's, you can listen to Mahalia Jackson, you can resurrect Jackson ****in' POLLOCK to paint you a better picture of yourself than the one we all see; but..."

    Some beautiful images in that letter, excellent.


  • #36
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    MagicIRL wrote: »
    I highly doubt a PPV model will work over here given the frequency of UFC events and the American time difference.

    5 years ago that would have been true.

    They done I think 4 PPV boxing nights within about 6/8 weeks just before Christmas. If they got UFC I would fully expect(as I said before) some events on PPV, obviously not them all. Likes of UFC London with Bisping/Silva or any McGregor fight at the minute would have a pretty big interest. You just need to look at UK sport websites to see how much more coverage the UFC, and specifically Conor, are getting now.


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  • #37
    weemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    McGregor's popularity might be the worst thing to ever happen for fans when it comes to watching live events in IRE/UK :(


  • #38
    maximoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


    As long as PPV is still an option on Youtube/Xbox I'm happy.

    Couldn't stomach forking over for PPV on top of a Sky Sports sub.


  • #39
    darced
    Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • #40
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    its been discussed plenty of times,ppv's in UK/IRE wont be happening dont worry.


  • #41
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.


    Worked alright for them about 20 years ago for Tyson fights. Be interesting to know actual viewing figures for bigger selected events but you need to factor in some people may not currently pay for the extra btsports sub whereas they may be happy paying for the odd 1 off UFC from a basic package.

    Interest in the sport has grown immensely in the last few years, adding into that a polarizing fighter like McGregor and it will continue to grow further. It may only be 1 or 2 events a year that they put on PPV but I'm sure it will happen if SS get the rights....so lets hope they don't!


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  • #42
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Devastator wrote: »
    Worked alright for them about 20 years ago for Tyson fights. Be interesting to know actual viewing figures for bigger selected events but you need to factor in some people may not currently pay for the extra btsports sub whereas they may be happy paying for the odd 1 off UFC from a basic package.

    Interest in the sport has grown immensely in the last few years, adding into that a polarizing fighter like McGregor and it will continue to grow further. It may only be 1 or 2 events a year that they put on PPV but I'm sure it will happen if SS get the rights....so lets hope they don't!


    But what happens when mcgregor is gone? (which wont be far away cant see him fight till his late 30s or 40)


  • #43
    dave1982
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Gamebred wrote: »
    its been discussed plenty of times,ppv's in UK/IRE wont be happening dont worry.

    Why not their biggest star is Irish? You think ufc think we won't pay for ppv. I don't know what BT are paying UFC for rights to show it.

    I think UFC will go the WWE model here. PPVs on sky box office and then show count down shows and fox cards on ordinary channels.

    People are buying them online at moment here


  • #44
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Gamebred wrote: »
    But what happens when mcgregor is gone? (which wont be far away cant see him fight till his late 30s or 40)


    lol seriously? This is sly sports we're talking about here, the masters of fake hype and promotion! If they said a wet paper bag fighting a wet piece of kitchen roll is exciting they'll get enough sheeple to believe it and pay for it.

    Did anyone here ever think Amir Khan was a real top ranked boxer? Doesn't matter, SS told you he was and charged you £15 a time to listen to them hype him up and make him out to be the best pound for pound fighter ever.


  • #45
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Devastator wrote: »
    lol seriously? This is sly sports we're talking about here, the masters of fake hype and promotion! If they said a wet paper bag fighting a wet piece of kitchen roll is exciting they'll get enough sheeple to believe it and pay for it.

    Did anyone here ever think Amir Khan was a real top ranked boxer? Doesn't matter, SS told you he was and charged you £15 a time to listen to them hype him up and make him out to be the best pound for pound fighter ever.



    Yeah the boxing comparison doesnt work,khan was a top level well known olympian before even fighting pro,mma is not as big as you think sky have nobody to hype for ppvs,you think they are gonna try sell a ppv of condit v lawler? nobody in england has heard of them good luck selling that.


  • #46
    LaGlisse
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭LaGlisse


    do BT have ad breaks during PPVs/fight nights? do they show european fight nights such as the upcoming london ones? have BT but have watched last PPV on UFC tv.
    trialling fight pass at the moment , good going through the old fights but would i be right in thinking there is no point keeping it on if you have BT?


  • #47
    LaGlisse
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭LaGlisse


    sky do PPV for WWE dont they? arent they on at stupid o clock in the morning too?


  • #48
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    LaGlisse wrote: »
    do BT have ad breaks during PPVs/fight nights? do they show european fight nights such as the upcoming london ones? have BT but have watched last PPV on UFC tv.
    trialling fight pass at the moment , good going through the old fights but would i be right in thinking there is no point keeping it on if you have BT?

    You only get fightpass events and fighpass prelims of every other card thats on fox or ppv,I'd keep bt.


  • #49
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    LaGlisse wrote: »
    sky do PPV for WWE dont they? arent they on at stupid o clock in the morning too?



    WWE wrestling has a much bigger fanbase than mma.


  • #50
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    LaGlisse wrote: »
    do BT have ad breaks during PPVs/fight nights? do they show european fight nights such as the upcoming london ones? have BT but have watched last PPV on UFC tv.
    trialling fight pass at the moment , good going through the old fights but would i be right in thinking there is no point keeping it on if you have BT?

    Yes BT have ads during every event they show. Fight nights have even more ads, maybe because of the ad breaks on fox in the USA. I'd say BT show about 95% of events at present, theres been a few fightpass only events with no coverage.



    In other news.........Tim Kennedy as we know has been hunting Hitler but now the tables have turned on him and he's been threatened by ISIS! :eek:
    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/14/fbi-investigates-islamic-state-threat-to-ufc-middleweight-tim-kennedy


  • #51
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,453 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Hasn't it long been said that Sky only do events on ppv at the insistence of the WWE themselves?


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