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Weather in the Media: TV, TABLOIDS etc.

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    #182
    Pangea
    Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Worst thing is now, if it does snow people will think he was right.


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    #183
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Many artcles are in the news regarding a "big freeze" this winter.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/big-freeze-perfect-arctic-storm-heading-our-way-30834280.html

    http://clareherald.com/2014/12/14/forecasters-pour-cold-water-over-big-freeze-alert-245/

    http://www.joe.ie/news/arctic-weather-on-the-way-as-ireland-prepares-for-worst-winter-since-1963/478794

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-britain-set-worst-8282519

    From what I gather of these, James Madden from Exactaweather says that a huge area of colder than usual surface water in the mid-Atlantic will affect the Gulf Stream and expose Ireland to Siberian temperatures, an event simular to the winter of 1962/63. This seems unlikely, but does anyone on here have any input on his comments?


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    #184
    Its Only Ray Parlour
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭Its Only Ray Parlour


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Many artcles are in the news regarding a "big freeze" this winter.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/big-freeze-perfect-arctic-storm-heading-our-way-30834280.html

    http://clareherald.com/2014/12/14/forecasters-pour-cold-water-over-big-freeze-alert-245/

    http://www.joe.ie/news/arctic-weather-on-the-way-as-ireland-prepares-for-worst-winter-since-1963/478794

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-britain-set-worst-8282519

    From what I gather of these, James Madden from Exactaweather says that a huge area of colder than usual surface water in the mid-Atlantic will affect the Gulf Stream and expose Ireland to Siberian temperatures, an event simular to the winter of 1962/63. This seems unlikely, but does anyone on here have any input on his comments?

    He has a lot of critics: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Exacta-Weather-the-truth-behind-the-headlines/231254790375886


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    #185
    bajer101
    Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭bajer101


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Many artcles are in the news regarding a "big freeze" this winter.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/big-freeze-perfect-arctic-storm-heading-our-way-30834280.html

    http://clareherald.com/2014/12/14/forecasters-pour-cold-water-over-big-freeze-alert-245/

    http://www.joe.ie/news/arctic-weather-on-the-way-as-ireland-prepares-for-worst-winter-since-1963/478794

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-britain-set-worst-8282519

    From what I gather of these, James Madden from Exactaweather says that a huge area of colder than usual surface water in the mid-Atlantic will affect the Gulf Stream and expose Ireland to Siberian temperatures, an event simular to the winter of 1962/63. This seems unlikely, but does anyone on here have any input on his comments?

    He's an unqualified attention whore whose sole aim seems to be to sell articles and private forecasts. Roll a dice and you will have as much chance as coming up with a correct forecast as he has.


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    #186
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    bajer101 wrote: »
    He's an unqualified attention whore whose sole aim seems to be to sell articles and private forecasts. Roll a dice and you will have as much chance as coming up with a correct forecast as he has.

    That's a bit.... Excessive.....
    From what I see, he forecasts cold winters every year since 2011. He has obivously been proven horribly wrong. People seem to have an un-natural hatrid towards a man they have never met or talked to. I hope he is right, because I would love a cold snap, but I knows its unlikely.

    What I cannot understand is why so many newspapers post his forecasts if he has a record of being horribly wrong? The Clare Herald are the only ones to acknowledge this.


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    #187
    Harps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    As has been said almost daily on here, he's a complete fraud who prints misleading and irresponsible rubbish solely for his own profit. It'd be nice if people would stop bringing attention to him (not blaming you as such) as we'll keep seeing more of the same as long as those webpages get traffic

    Why do they print his stories? Well, the public love a good doomsday weather story so a sensationalist headline sells more papers, Madden gets money through views to his website and people buying his premium forecasts so he keeps saying the same thing year on year


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    #188
    bajer101
    Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭bajer101


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    That's a bit.... Excessive.....
    From what I see, he forecasts cold winters every year since 2011. He has obivously been proven horribly wrong. People seem to have an un-natural hatrid towards a man they have never met or talked to. I hope he is right, because I would love a cold snap, but I knows its unlikely.

    What I cannot understand is why so many newspapers post his forecasts if he has a record of being horribly wrong? The Clare Herald are the only ones to acknowledge this.

    It's not excessive at all. And if James Madden would care to take offence with that description in a court of law, he can bring it on. He's a charlatan. Fair play to him though - he has found a niche market for newspapers who will publish his nonsense (with money probably changing hands).

    To answer your question about why so many newspapers publish his forecasts, the answer is simply that newspapers are in the business of selling newspapers - not truth. His forecasts create headlines that sell papers. Simple as that.


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    #189
    Oneiric 3
    Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    bajer101 wrote: »
    Fair play to him though - he has found a niche market

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    #190
    Larbre34
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    Another Indo article quoting Madden this morning, referencing the PV but this time they mention Met É dont subscribe to forecasting a month away and that other modellers disagree with the scenario.

    The dogs abuse they got in comments yesterday must have had some effect


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    #191
    The12thMan
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    what is the educated opinion of the weather men/women on here of the new in the independent today?

    independent.ie/irish-news/news/freak-polar-vortex-threatens-coldest-winter-in-50-years-30835845.html


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    #192
    snaps
    Registered Users Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    I really really dont know where they get it all from. At the moment the north atlantic is throwing storm after storm out from greenland across to scandinavia. No sign of any easterly wind or set up yet, even from Christmas.


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    #193
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 32,987 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I hate this nonsense that is continually in the media now about extreme weather and how we are going to get battered.

    Chatting to work colleagues yesterday all I heard was "theres a weather warning for tonight, going to freeze badly". I woke at 6am, went to check the car to see if I needed to defrost it before my commute. Totally clear. Got in and temp gauge read +4C.

    Scaremongering.

    Do I believe we are going to have the worst winter since 1947? Not really. We could have of course, but if the predictors are correct its only because they took a lucky guess. I'd love to see some of these folk taken up on their predictions when they are completely wrong.

    Even a stopped clock is right sometimes.


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    #194
    qt3.14
    Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Even a stopped clock is right sometimes.
    Twice a day in fact, which is a lot more often than Exacta!


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    #195
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    How none of the papers have come up with the headline, "It's the end of the world as we SNOW it" is just beyond me haha!


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    #196
    shmaupel
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭shmaupel


    Evelyn on Newstalk atm. Putting exactaweather in its place.


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    #197
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    These people should be sued for losses caused due to miss-information (Exacta etc that is not Met Eireann)


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    #198
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Has anyone watched Wild Weather with Richard Hammond on BBC?


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    #199
    Tom Cruises Left Nut
    Registered Users Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Has anyone watched Wild Weather with Richard Hammond on BBC?

    Yeah, not a fan of it. A few blatantly untrue statements in it and its just do dumbed down


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    #200
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Liam Neesons Ballbag wrote: »
    Yeah, not a fan of it. A few blatantly untrue statements in it and its just do dumbed down

    I watched the first one and thought it was too much like Top Gear.

    Fell asleep during the second one.


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    #201
    patmac
    Registered Users Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭patmac


    The12thMan wrote: »
    what is the educated opinion of the weather men/women on here of the new in the independent today?

    independent.ie/irish-news/news/freak-polar-vortex-threatens-coldest-winter-in-50-years-30835845.html
    This article has been sponsored by the Fuel Suppliers of Ireland.


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    #202
    Villain
    Registered Users Posts: 15,944 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    I'll be on Liveline later trying to tell people to ignore the nonsense forecasts from Madden etc


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    #203
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,447 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Some of the stuff in parts of the media (one paper in particular) has been really atrocious the last few days. The worst I have ever seen actually.

    Evelyn Cusack is spot on but sadly wasting her time with the merry band of con men and spoofers.


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    #204
    Oscar Bravo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    here we go! :)


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    #205
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Ah now all that common sense, you'll never shift newspapers with that! :pac:


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    #206
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    patmac wrote: »
    This article has been sponsored by the Fuel Suppliers of Ireland.
    ...who obviously are equally as worried about the current plunge in oil prices and whether or not they will get away with passing it onto the consumer. :)


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    #207
    patmac
    Registered Users Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭patmac


    PukkaStukka wrote: »
    ...who obviously are equally as worried about the current plunge in oil prices and whether or not they will get away with passing it onto the consumer. :)
    Well they will be praying the freeze comes as sales have been very slow in this sector with the unseasonably mild weather in September , October and most of November, they will be delighted by these misleading articles in the Indo in particular.


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    #208
    Jpmarn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    It is surprising that the Irish Independent should run a front page headline on the polar vortex. It is more common for the red tops like the Mirror or the Star.


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    #209
    Son0vagun
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Son0vagun


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    It is surprising that the Irish Independent should run a front page headline on the polar vortex. It is more common for the red tops like the Mirror or the Star.

    Are they just saying it to sell news papers?


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    #210
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Son0vagun wrote: »
    Are they just saying it to sell news papers?

    You hit the nail on the head.


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    #211
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,978 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    It is surprising that the Irish Independent should run a front page headline on the polar vortex. It is more common for the red tops like the Mirror or the Star.

    You must have missed the last 5 years when the Indo turned red obviously.


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