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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Bitten & Hisses


    Well done Muckit, tidy job! When I weld, I may as well be throwing toffee at the steel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭BeeDI


    I saw a bright idea mentioned over on BFF today. Bale unroller, made by converting an old Teagle pto driven concrete mixer. Someone always thinking.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    bk1991 wrote: »
    pricies so far
    :39inch stone fork tines somewhere between 50 and 60 euro
    :bushes 15 euro
    brackets will be roughly 50
    the paddles from rohan engerring in limrick are 120 inc vat and i think carrage will be 20 more


    il make the frame and get the holes drilled for bushes and make up that for start then get the brackets on the sort paddles after

    if i could get paddles made 42 inches long and 12 inches wide would that work if i got the holes bored and brackets made plus paddles made in same place it might not big as big a bill hopefully :D
    but il need some design on paper or something

    new bale handler is 500 €uro
    but this is a bale handler for wraped bales ,wraped bale stacker,hay/straw bale handler ,stacker
    pallett forks

    thats 5 uses plus many more so if i could make it for under 320 which will be tight have loads of galvinised pipes lieing around anyway


    bk1991

    That look like a handy bale handler you made there. But I just can't figure how could you stack wraped bales with it ? Would it not rip the bale below when ya would go to pull out ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    He can probably stack 2 high. bottom one on its end, top one on its side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    emaherx wrote: »
    He can probably stack 2 high. bottom one on its end, top one on its side.

    Would it still not catch the bale at the bottom though ? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I manage fine with this one.
    ADCBC6536F4840E69D207AE4AA28EBE5-240.jpg

    I'm guessing it would be much the same.
    bales do need to be collected and stacked fairly lively after wrapping, before they start to flatten out at the bottom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    emaherx wrote: »
    I manage fine with this one.
    ADCBC6536F4840E69D207AE4AA28EBE5-240.jpg

    I'm guessing it would be much the same.
    bales do need to be collected and stacked fairly lively after wrapping, before they start to flatten out at the bottom.


    Actually that reminds me, I know a lad who actually has the very same set up as yourself there and he puts his bales up 3 high with it, all on their flat, it would not be the tidiest looking though stack as the bales do sag in the winter, but I suppose it saves space :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Actually that reminds me, I know a lad who actually has the very same set up as yourself there and he puts his bales up 3 high with it, all on their flat, it would not be the tidiest looking though stack as the bales do sag in the winter, but I suppose it saves space :cool:

    It'll also keep the area of the bale with the most layers of plastic (16 in the centre) upwards so the crows will have less chance of puncturing the plastic when they land


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    When joining pipe to pipe at right angles (ie bars to upright if making a gate) and you don't have a notcher, how do you flatten the ends?

    Is it just brut force with a lump hammer?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Muckit wrote: »
    When joining pipe to pipe at right angles (ie bars to upright if making a gate) and you don't have a notcher, how do you flatten the ends?

    Is it just brut force with a lump hammer?

    I squeeze them in the vice.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Thanks blue! The vice I have isn't the best, will give it a go though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭bk1991


    Muckit wrote: »
    When joining pipe to pipe at right angles (ie bars to upright if making a gate) and you don't have a notcher, how do you flatten the ends?

    Is it just brut force with a lump hammer?


    Puh on tractor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    p3210017.jpg
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    Fitted crow flaps a few weeks ago. The plastic is stuff you can get to protect hall floors.... :D

    Not as heavy as the stuff used in factory made creeps, but it's doing the job at only a fraction of the price ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    The 'Daddy' of all bale trailers....

    p3210012t.jpg

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us

    This is a quick snap of a neighbour who has been proper busy in the workshop.

    It's an articulated logging lorry body that he's added a drawbar to and pulls with a JCB Fasctrac. He can bring 24 bales of silage on it and can load it with the grab from the roadside. The grab reaches in over the ditch = no ploughin up the land!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    I think i see him passing our house alot lately . Its a fine job alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    He's selling and delivering them all over the country so you possibly did ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭dar31


    excel sheet for keeping track of fert spreading. keep it in the tractor all the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭mikeoh


    anyone have plan/ideas on making a home made land roller?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Cant find the fork in the morning???? Keep it safe?

    I took off a gate and found the three prong fork fits nicely..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I use a spoon :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Figerty wrote: »
    Cant find the fork in the morning???? Keep it safe?
    I took off a gate and found the three prong fork fits nicely..
    Never seen a 3 prong fork before, 2 and 4 only...........:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Never seen a 3 prong fork before, 2 and 4 only...........:D

    Same here...

    What kinda place do you live in at all Figerty... tis like some kinda alternate reality... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    And there I was thinking I had a deprived child hood....Ya never saw a three prong fork?

    It's a great yoke for forking hayledge/chopped silage.. you don't get as caught up with a four prong but get better grip than a two prong. Plenty of them available in Clare.

    I have four prong as well, in case ye thought I bought because there was 25% off...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Figerty wrote: »
    And there I was thinking I had a deprived child hood....Ya never saw a three prong fork?

    It's a great yoke for forking hayledge/chopped silage.. you don't get as caught up with a four prong but get better grip than a two prong. Plenty of them available in Clare.

    I have four prong as well, in case ye thought I bought because there was 25% off...

    +1. 3 prongs very handy for shaking out round bales. Also stronger for forking square bales, bit more support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Here's a few pics of a very rough spinning jenny that I hobbled together yesterday evening. Used it today to roll out HT wire. Worked a treat.... no tangled wire ;)

    p4120018a.jpg

    p4120021.jpg

    p4120031.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    got a suggestion for any of you with only one tractor with a loader for to load big bags of manure.set up one bay of "QUICKSTAGE"scafolding with the planks just higher than your spreader.put the planks with about a 6 or 8" gap between them and you can double up (one top of the other) for more strenght.then plonk your bag on top of the planks and back your spreader under it.you will be able to slit the bottom through the gap.hope it makes sence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    keep going wrote: »
    got a suggestion for any of you with only one tractor with a loader for to load big bags of manure.set up one bay of "QUICKSTAGE"scafolding with the planks just higher than your spreader.put the planks with about a 6 or 8" gap between them and you can double up (one top of the other) for more strenght.then plonk your bag on top of the planks and back your spreader under it.you will be able to slit the bottom through the gap.hope it makes sence
    right idea im in the same boat sick of yoking on and off:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Firstly can I say that I am not for one minute laying claim to being the originator of this handy tip, it was someone on F&F that I got the tip from in the first place, can't remember who..... blue5000 possibly?

    Anyhow I tried it last night and thought it was genius!.... so I said I'd post for everyone's benefit........

    You can buy the roll of undergate cabling, but it's expensive and alot of them, unless you buy the known brands, are of dubious quality and will rust quickly, creating poor contacts. A piece of HT wire treaded through hydrodare pipe is the way to go, and is widely used by fencing contractors. But how to get it through successfully, especially on a long run? (the length I did was ~35') The end of the wire can start to curl inside in the pipe and dig in..:mad:

    I got a 25mm tec screw and tied a length of polywire to it, then covered the treads with insulating tape. I then fired up the compressor and shot the screw up the tube using an air hose. You need the pressure high, the hydradare straight and the tec screw (or similar) needs to be close to the diameter of the pipe (so that it's like a bullet going up a gun barrel ;))

    Once the polywire is through, lap (no knots) the HT wire about 12" with the polywire and joint them together with insulating tape or duct tape.

    Tie the other end of the HT wire to something solid and pull the polywire and the HT wire throught the pipe ..... :D Happy days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    Muckit wrote: »
    Here's a few pics of a very rough spinning jenny that I hobbled together yesterday evening. Used it today to roll out HT wire. Worked a treat.... no tangled wire ;)

    p4120018a.jpg

    p4120021.jpg

    p4120031.jpg
    nice bit of work there, very handy item


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Muckit wrote: »
    Firstly can I say that I am not for one minute laying claim to being the originator of this handy tip, it was someone on F&F that I got the tip from in the first place, can't remember who..... blue5000 possibly?

    Anyhow I tried it last night and thought it was genius!.... so I said I'd post for everyone's benefit........

    You can buy the roll of undergate cabling, but it's expensive and alot of them, unless you buy the known brands, are of dubious quality and will rust quickly, creating poor contacts. A piece of HT wire treaded through hydrodare pipe is the way to go, and is widely used by fencing contractors. But how to get it through successfully, especially on a long run? (the length I did was ~35') The end of the wire can start to curl inside in the pipe and dig in..:mad:

    I got a 25mm tec screw and tied a length of polywire to it, then covered the treads with insulating tape. I then fired up the compressor and shot the screw up the tube using an air hose. You need the pressure high, the hydradare straight and the tec screw (or similar) needs to be close to the diameter of the pipe (so that it's like a bullet going up a gun barrel ;))

    Once the polywire is through, lap (no knots) the HT wire about 12" with the polywire and joint them together with insulating tape or duct tape.

    Tie the other end of the HT wire to something solid and pull the polywire and the HT wire throught the pipe ..... :D Happy days
    Another method is to neatly bend the end of the wire back on itself, leaving a nice rounded tip. This'll push a heck of a long way through hydrodare before the sheer weight and friction of the wire makes it more and more difficult.

    Also, I've found through bitter experience that hydrodare breaks down over time and allows current to leak off to earth. I'm told that carbon is added to the mix to make it nice and black; carbon, of course, is a conductor. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Rovi wrote: »
    Also, I've found through bitter experience that hydrodare breaks down over time and allows current to leak off to earth. :(

    God I didn't realise that Rovi. Is it the voltage going through it that causes it to break down? Had you the ends of the hydradare bent in a hoop to stop the water getting in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    p4180054.jpg

    p4180058.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    Muckit wrote: »
    i just put my weelbarrow under mine and off i go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    leg wax wrote: »
    i just put my weelbarrow under mine and off i go.
    we put one end in back of jeep and some one carries the other end


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Request for something to gunter !!
    Folks.. i'm looking for some spring tines, light ones, length wouldn't matter. I'm looking to fab a detacher for my lawn... Are sets for haybobs and the like dear?
    If you know a cheap source please let me know....

    Cheers...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Muckit wrote: »

    I just use plastic 200L barrels cut lengthways, I can fire about 6 of them into the back of the jeep, nice and light too. I have two holes cut in the end with a piece of twine threaded through them, piece of insulator tube on the twine for a handle. Them troughs are only scrap!

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Muckit wrote: »
    Firstly can I say that I am not for one minute laying claim to being the originator of this handy tip, it was someone on F&F that I got the tip from in the first place, can't remember who..... blue5000 possibly?

    Anyhow I tried it last night and thought it was genius!.... so I said I'd post for everyone's benefit........

    You can buy the roll of undergate cabling, but it's expensive and alot of them, unless you buy the known brands, are of dubious quality and will rust quickly, creating poor contacts. A piece of HT wire treaded through hydrodare pipe is the way to go, and is widely used by fencing contractors. But how to get it through successfully, especially on a long run? (the length I did was ~35') The end of the wire can start to curl inside in the pipe and dig in..:mad:

    I got a 25mm tec screw and tied a length of polywire to it, then covered the treads with insulating tape. I then fired up the compressor and shot the screw up the tube using an air hose. You need the pressure high, the hydradare straight and the tec screw (or similar) needs to be close to the diameter of the pipe (so that it's like a bullet going up a gun barrel ;))

    Once the polywire is through, lap (no knots) the HT wire about 12" with the polywire and joint them together with insulating tape or duct tape.

    Tie the other end of the HT wire to something solid and pull the polywire and the HT wire throught the pipe ..... :D Happy days

    often did something similar with a vacum and an old plastic shopping bagworks a treat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Dupont


    made a yoke for moving gates for a farmer,he farms by himself so wanted something for moving gates around for herding cows in the yard,when testing etc. it has a piece of angle iron 2ft with a wheel at each end,a small bit of box iron in middle of this to set spud of gate into and two pieces of angle that go straight up from this.small bit of flat welded at back. this is sort of a cradle around gate,simply lift one end of gate into it,gate will lie back on flat,put bolt through front and simply lift other end and push/pull gate. it will also allow the gate to stand up right.simples:confused::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Dupont wrote: »
    made a yoke for moving gates for a farmer,he farms by himself so wanted something for moving gates around for herding cows in the yard,when testing etc. it has a piece of angle iron 2ft with a wheel at each end,a small bit of box iron in middle of this to set spud of gate into and two pieces of angle that go straight up from this.small bit of flat welded at back. this is sort of a cradle around gate,simply lift one end of gate into it,gate will lie back on flat,put bolt through front and simply lift other end and push/pull gate. it will also allow the gate to stand up right.simples:confused::D

    Good idea, any photo?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Dupont


    Muckit wrote: »
    Good idea, any photo?

    no will take one next time im down,if i remember


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Muckit wrote: »
    Rovi wrote: »
    Also, I've found through bitter experience that hydrodare breaks down over time and allows current to leak off to earth.
    God I didn't realise that Rovi. Is it the voltage going through it that causes it to break down? Had you the ends of the hydradare bent in a hoop to stop the water getting in?
    Only just getting back to this, sorry for overlooking it! :o

    For years here in the early days of electric fencers, wire was 'insulated' from the stake with bits of 1/2" hydrodare either slid onto the wire when it was going up, or split along their length and slipped over the wire, and stapled on with conventional staples.
    Gaps were bridged either underground with bare wire strung through buried 1/2" hydrodare or overhead with single core insulated domestic wiring.
    This 'worked' about as well as anything else at the time, and no-one knew any better anyway.

    Over the years, the length of fence grew longer and the fencers evolved from battery units to various 'modern' mains units.
    In the early '80s, we embarked on putting the grazing land into a proper 21-day paddocks system (all done with h-frame strainers! :rolleyes:), and all this too was done with hydrodare.

    It was a constant battle to keep the fence in order, as any bit of an earth anywhere would drop the current to the point where the fence was ineffective.

    Sometime in the early '90s, we got the FRS in to fence around the silage fields and a few of the paddocks.
    Our eyes were opened to how a fence could be put up, and on the use of proper materials!:eek::eek::eek:

    Besides now having proper insulators and underground cable in the newly fenced sections, we also installed the biggest fencer unit we could get at the time, a Cheta G303. 30 Joules of lightening in a box :D
    Along with the first proper earth system we'd ever installed (10 x 5 foot galvanised rods in a damp patch), this gave us a fence that struck fear into both man and beast!

    It also showed up the deficiencies in the old sections of fence!
    It blasted through the old hydrodare 'insulators' as if they weren't there, giving us a sparkly light show around the paddocks at night and sound effects that the lads at the ploughing match with their electrocuted potato demonstration would be proud of.
    It was comical how bad it was :D

    Now, in fairness, most of the old hydrodare was years (or even decades!) of age and had been exposed to whatever weather the Irish climate had thrown at it over that time, so perhaps we shouldn't have expected too much of it, but even new hydrodare only survived a season or so against the new fencer unit.
    I was told at the time that hydrodare contains carbon to make it nice and black, and that this quickly allowed the powerful fencer unit to make its way through it to earth.
    Certainly, it all got replaced with modern materials over the following few years and we never had problems with earth leakage to the stakes again.

    At this stage, we didn't trust the buried hydrodare either, so we pulled modern high tensile insulated wire through it and it then served merely as conduit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Does anyone know what material permanent fence insulators are made from? This site seems to imply that the are LDPE which is what hydrodare is made from.....
    http://www.beattieinsulators.co.nz/aboutus.aspx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Muckit wrote: »
    Does anyone know what material permanent fence insulators are made from? This site seems to imply that the are LDPE which is what hydrodare is made from.....
    http://www.beattieinsulators.co.nz/aboutus.aspx

    I spent a good while on contract maintenance in a plastics moulding company.. While they may have the same base product neither are likely to be pure LDPE..

    I'd guess the hydrodare has an agent added to allow long extrusion runs where the insulators would be pressed to a high density and possibly even have a hardening agent added.. The insulators could be twice as dense due to the injection force and also probably have a UV stabilizer added.. The hydrodare mightnt have a UV stabilizer as it would be more likely buried or out of the sun..
    Just general info, I'm maintenance rather than process engineer :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭Attie


    bbam wrote: »
    I spent a good while on contract maintenance in a plastics moulding company.. While they may have the same base product neither are likely to be pure LDPE..

    I'd guess the hydrodare has an agent added to allow long extrusion runs where the insulators would be pressed to a high density and possibly even have a hardening agent added.. The insulators could be twice as dense due to the injection force and also probably have a UV stabilizer added.. The hydrodare mightnt have a UV stabilizer as it would be more likely buried or out of the sun..
    Just general info, I'm maintenance rather than process engineer :rolleyes:

    I'd go with this also. Put in a system with Gallagher Power Fencing 30 years ago was kinda expensive at the time but with care it has served well rotting posts let it down but lot's of it still going.
    In those days the insulators on the corner posts were like an egg the chap who showed us how to put the system together said they could stand a 50 ton pull took him at his word as no way to test this up to that pressure but could stand one hell of a pull.

    http://www.gallagherireland.com/fence_components.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    bbam wrote: »
    Request for something to gunter !!
    Folks.. i'm looking for some spring tines, light ones, length wouldn't matter. I'm looking to fab a detacher for my lawn... Are sets for haybobs and the like dear?
    If you know a cheap source please let me know....

    Cheers...
    I bought a detatcher/scarifier in the local lawnmower shop last year (€27).just fit it place of the blade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    aujopimur wrote: »
    I bought a detatcher/scarifier in the local lawnmower shop last year (€27).just fit it place of the blade.

    In place of the blade of what??? Push Lawnmower? Do you have a pic/ more of a discription?
    bbam wrote: »
    Request for something to gunter !!
    Folks.. i'm looking for some spring tines, light ones, length wouldn't matter. I'm looking to fab a detacher for my lawn... Are sets for haybobs and the like dear?
    If you know a cheap source please let me know....

    Cheers...

    Haybob tines have one long leg and one short, so you would need to cut the long one down ?

    How about tines from a baler? (would be very light compared to Haybob tines)

    Was thinking of something similar myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    emaherx wrote: »
    In place of the blade of what??? Push Lawnmower? Do you have a pic/ more of a discription?
    It replaces the cutting blade on a petrol mower,it's like the cutting blade but has a spring tine on each end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Ah, thats a bit small scale for me.

    I need to mow my lawn with a tractor, but thanks anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    emaherx wrote: »

    Haybob tines have one long leg and one short, so you would need to cut the long one down ?

    Yea, that's the plan...

    I'm looking to build one to run behind the mower when I'm not collecting the grass...

    The scarifier blade for the lawnmower is too hard on the lawn.. I'm looking for something that will pull up some moss/thatch but not rip out loads of grass.. It's more of a maintenance tool than a remedy to a bad mossy lawn, my lawn is new enough, there is some thatch but no moss as of yet..

    I can get 15 double tines on e-bay delivered for €50... Suppose another €20 would throw it together... That's half price of a commercial one and it would have much stronger tines...


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