When's calving starting 2020

squinn2912 · 04-04-2020 9:11am

Number 22 last night slight pull with the jack just cos I was there. Calf got up to suck himself thank God. 6 to go

390kid · 04-04-2020 10:53am

tanko wrote: »

Fiston is the business for anyone who doesn't want to spend the calving season hanging of the end of a calving jack. His calves are light boned when born but don't be long shaping up. He works best on taller cows and is easy calved on cows i find.

I second you on that one. Very fond of him here

tellmeabit · 04-04-2020 11:36am

This guy landed yesterday morning, supposed to be fiston. 300 days.. unless is calved early from LM stock bull. He was left with them July 1st.

tanko · 04-04-2020 3:18pm

That seems early for the stock bull but you never know i suppose.

Had a cow here calve a Fiston bull here the other day, 295 days gestation.

Had to jack a Highfield Odran bull calf out of a heifer at 4 this morning, first time i've had to jack a Saler calf but he was bigger than they usually are. Once the head came he was fine.
Had a lovely Dromanig King heifer calf off a QCD third calver also, gave her a bit of a pull as progress was a bit slow. Fairly big calf, i'd be careful what i'd put him on, best on older cows i think.

Have three Frosty King calves now off third calvers, two heifers and a bull, like the look of them so far, easy calved with good thickness, shape and frame to them.

Have a couple of Gamin ZGM Ccalves too, really like him, easy calved and they really start to shape up and put on muscle after a week or two.

50HX · 04-04-2020 3:48pm

Lovely zch heifer this morning, hope she turns into a new replacement

Off the oldest cow I have.........her dug is nearly touching the ground...always a catch:D

tanko · 04-04-2020 4:43pm

ZCH can be a hard calved yoke. If your cow isn't too big, has plenty of milk and a bit of muscle to her you'll have a nice replacement there.

charolais0153 · 04-04-2020 4:48pm

tanko wrote: »

Had a lovely Dromanig King heifer calf off a QCD third calver also, gave her a bit of a pull as progress was a bit slow. Fairly big calf, i'd be careful what i'd put him on, best on older cows i think.

Should make a lovely cow, was just thinking of using him on heifersðŸ˜…, thought that if ya had a heifer, be easy to keep, only try and put limos on heifersðŸ€”

jimini0 · 04-04-2020 4:54pm

Lm2014 landed on time. Unassisted and up and sucking inside the hour

tanko · 04-04-2020 5:36pm

charolais0153 wrote: »

Should make a lovely cow, was just thinking of using him on heifers&#55357;&#56837;, thought that if ya had a heifer, be easy to keep, only try and put limos on heifers&#55356;&#56340;

Hmmm, i suppose it would depend on what kind of heifers you have and how they're fed pre calving but i think it would be risky.
Won't be doing anything like that here anyway.

I like the look of Brooklands Marco that Dovea have now, maybe something like him would be a better choice.

josephsoap · 04-04-2020 6:00pm

tanko wrote: »

Fiston is the business for anyone who doesn't want to spend the calving season hanging of the end of a calving jack. His calves are light boned when born but don't be long shaping up. He works best on taller cows and is easy calved on cows i find.

Have you ever used FWO - fleetwood ?

milligan2 · 04-04-2020 7:02pm

I used him on a good second calver last year and got a cracker of a heifer,long and muscular and no bother calving.
Mom is sired by fiston which probably helped,FWO I’m talking about.

High bike · 04-04-2020 8:18pm

tanko wrote: »

That seems early for the stock bull but you never know i suppose.

Had a cow here calve a Fiston bull here the other day, 295 days gestation.

Had to jack a Highfield Odran bull calf out of a heifer at 4 this morning, first time i've had to jack a Saler calf but he was bigger than they usually are. Once the head came he was fine.
Had a lovely Dromanig King heifer calf off a QCD third calver also, gave her a bit of a pull as progress was a bit slow. Fairly big calf, i'd be careful what i'd put him on, best on older cows i think.

Have three Frosty King calves now off third calvers, two heifers and a bull, like the look of them so far, easy calved with good thickness, shape and frame to them.

Have a couple of Gamin ZGM Ccalves too, really like him, easy calved and they really start to shape up and put on muscle after a week or two.

Have a couple of ZGM straws in the tank was thinking of chancing him on a pb 2nd Calver this year.What u think?

High bike · 04-04-2020 8:20pm

Nice Jackpot bull calf arrived here yesterday,was hoping for a heifer but u take what u get I suppose off a Sympa cow

tanko · 04-04-2020 8:44pm

josephsoap wrote: »

Have you ever used FWO - fleetwood ?

No haven't used him, Fiston would be my CH bull of choice here up to now. Might try a few Bivouac this year also.
I've seen some Fleetwood calves on a neighbours farm, nice quality calves and easy calved. I'd say he's worth a try anyway.
The colour alone of CH calves is worth at least €100 over calves of other breeds of the same quality.

tanko · 04-04-2020 8:47pm

High bike wrote: »

Have a couple of ZGM straws in the tank was thinking of chancing him on a pb 2nd Calvert this year.What u think?

Yeah, should be ideal for her.

charolais0153 · 04-04-2020 9:18pm

tanko wrote: »

No haven't used him, Fiston would be my CH bull of choice here up to now. Might try a few Bivouac this year also.
I've seen some Fleetwood calves on a neighbours farm, nice quality calves and easy calved. I'd say he's worth a try anyway.
The colour alone of CH calves is worth at least €100 over calves of other breeds of the same quality.

Ya but its easier get a more shapey limousin calf than a charolais,

50HX · 04-04-2020 10:25pm

tanko wrote: »

ZCH can be a hard calved yoke. If your cow isn't too big, has plenty of milk and a bit of muscle to her you'll have a nice replacement there.

Cow is a dinger, calved stq and Ror in the past unassisted and has bags of milk with a great temprament, keeps every year on second heat

sonnybill · 05-04-2020 2:11am

tanko wrote: »

No haven't used him, Fiston would be my CH bull of choice here up to now. Might try a few Bivouac this year also.
I've seen some Fleetwood calves on a neighbours farm, nice quality calves and easy calved. I'd say he's worth a try anyway.
The colour alone of CH calves is worth at least €100 over calves of other breeds of the same quality.

Very nice goldstar Ludwig , he worth a shot too

fanmanad · 05-04-2020 7:42am

Firoda jason calf. About 6 weeks old

fanmanad · 05-04-2020 7:53am

Firoda Jason calf. About 6 weeks old

fanmanad · 05-04-2020 7:55am

Firoda jason calf. About 6 weeks old

patsy_mccabe · 05-04-2020 9:18am

fanmanad wrote: »

Firoda jason calf. About 6 weeks old

He's fit to wean.

Gudstock · 05-04-2020 1:32pm

I have a heifer on restricted hay diet here, worried about calving - her twin sister had serious difficul

Gudstock · 05-04-2020 1:34pm

I have a heifer on restricted hay diet here, worried about calving - her twin sister had serious difficulty calving to same bull earlier in the season.
Are oats good to feed her with and if so how much and how often?

charolais0153 · 05-04-2020 7:25pm

Gudstock wrote: »

I have a heifer on restricted hay diet here, worried about calving - her twin sister had serious difficulty calving to same bull earlier in the season.
Are oats good to feed her with and if so how much and how often?

Whens she due and what condition is she in

Dozer1 · 05-04-2020 8:52pm

2nd last one calved this evening big ch bull decent pull with the jack 1 heifer left

cute geoge · 05-04-2020 10:46pm

Gudstock wrote: »

I have a heifer on restricted hay diet here, worried about calving - her twin sister had serious difficulty calving to same bull earlier in the season.
Are oats good to feed her with and if so how much and how often?

I have a few 3yo dairy heifers calving to a hard calving hereford .I put them on a bare paddock with the last 10 days .2 have caved now with a strong jacking but ok.
With the bare pick of grass they will get plenty of energy and the exercise will do them good also.

Base price · 05-04-2020 11:21pm

Gudstock wrote: »

I have a heifer on restricted hay diet here, worried about calving - her twin sister had serious difficulty calving to same bull earlier in the season.
Are oats good to feed her with and if so how much and how often?

I have a couple of heifers (a HEx and a SH) due within the next month. They are still in the shed at the moment on hay and precalver bucket licks. I'm giving them about 2-3kgs of rolled oats with a kilo of rolled barley. I will let them and another SH heifer that is due later out to the bare paddock at the house so I can keep an eye on them.

Lime Tree Farm · 06-04-2020 1:44pm

Someone posted in the last month or about a Vet prescribing a decongestant for their calf, anyone remember the name of the decongestant. I have been looking at previous posts but can't find it.

Biscuitus · 06-04-2020 1:51pm

Gudstock wrote: »

I have a heifer on restricted hay diet here, worried about calving - her twin sister had serious difficulty calving to same bull earlier in the season.
Are oats good to feed her with and if so how much and how often?

They've done a lot of researching showing restricting diet in the last few weeks doesn't have much effect on calf size, it can help burn off the fat in the vulva which helps calving but it will have a big effect on milk yield, heifer's energy levels and the energy of the calf to get up and suckle. its a hard thing to balance but coming up to calving the most important thing is a good mineral and meal to get both their energy up. If its a heifer getting out to grass for a week or more will help build up the leg strength needed.

Base price · 06-04-2020 4:42pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Someone posted in the last month or about a Vet prescribing a decongestant for their calf, anyone remember the name of the decongestant. I have been looking at previous posts but can't find it.

Was it me. Vet prescribed Bisolvan sachets for a calf with a bad cough.

Lime Tree Farm · 06-04-2020 6:28pm

Thanks Base Price. It's a week old calf with a temp 40 and rapid breathing. Vet gave him IM Nuflor and Metacam Friday. Temp still 40 today, gave him his second shot IM Nuflor and Metacam. He had easy birth, colostrum within the hour, approx 60 kg (a soft ball of a calf). He is still drinking out the cow. He has a watery discharge from the nose. He is in a straw bedded pen with the cow. I just don't like that rapid breathing.

tanko · 07-04-2020 12:04am

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thanks Base Price. It's a week old calf with a temp 40 and rapid breathing. Vet gave him IM Nuflor and Metacam Friday. Temp still 40 today, gave him his second shot IM Nuflor and Metacam. He had easy birth, colostrum within the hour, approx 60 kg (a soft ball of a calf). He is still drinking out the cow. He has a watery discharge from the nose. He is in a straw bedded pen with the cow. I just don't like that rapid breathing.

If the Nuflor and Metacam didn't cure him since Friday i think i'd be trying something else today. How is he now?

squinn2912 · 07-04-2020 12:08am

Another calf here this evening. Easy job to get a nice little sh heifer calf out. Should make a solid wee team
5 left

Sugarbowl · 07-04-2020 12:52pm

Calving season is finally over! 1 still born, but otherwise no major problems. Had my share of scours with the later March calves. Purchased a Trusti Tuber feeder after seeing recommendations about it on this thread. Best thing I bought in a long time. Took the hassle of trying to get a powder into a suck calf completely.

ABitofsense · 07-04-2020 1:17pm

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Calving season is finally over! 1 still born, but otherwise no major problems. Had my share of scours with the later March calves. Purchased a Trusti Tuber feeder after seeing recommendations about it on this thread. Best thing I bought in a long time. Took the hassle of trying to get a powder into a suck calf completely.

I did the same based on recommendation here. Taking over at home currently and trusti tuber & Bosteel calving gate best things to ever come into the farm!! Father delighted

Lime Tree Farm · 07-04-2020 1:20pm

tanko wrote: »

If the Nuflor and Metacam didn't cure him since Friday i think i'd be trying something else today. How is he now?

Thank you, he is improved, 39.1 - still fast breathing. More alert, took some pics, will add later. Not being off his milk is helping, I think.

tanko · 07-04-2020 1:22pm

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Calving season is finally over! 1 still born, but otherwise no major problems. Had my share of scours with the later March calves. Purchased a Trusti Tuber feeder after seeing recommendations about it on this thread. Best thing I bought in a long time. Took the hassle of trying to get a powder into a suck calf completely.

Started using Rotavec Corona here a few years ago, think it's well worth it. Wouldn't be without it now.

bogman_bass · 07-04-2020 11:41pm

Bit of a tight one with the jack tonight. Calf was small but the heifer was small and narrow. Was worried about her all spring because she never really grew. Pretty happy that I got him out by myself because I was sure she’d be another section.

One left now.

Lime Tree Farm · 08-04-2020 8:32pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thank you, he is improved, 39.1 - still fast breathing. More alert, took some pics, will add later. Not being off his milk is helping, I think.

Much improved - breathing easier.

lmx 30 march 20.jpg

Base price · 08-04-2020 9:00pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thank you, he is improved, 39.1 - still fast breathing. More alert, took some pics, will add later. Not being off his milk is helping, I think.

Much improved - breathing easier.

lmx 30 march 20.jpg

Good to hear.
The CHx heifer that I got the Bisolvan for had a good pull on her today. I trapped her in the creep feeder and her temperature was normal. She is one of those ones that I wouldn't be surprised if I found her dead in the field some day.

Lime Tree Farm · 08-04-2020 9:35pm

Thanks BasePrice for your help.

We never had a case like this before. It was probably that 5 cows calved the day he was born and 3 more the following morning. Never had that many calving together before, all the others are fine.

Hopefully, yours will be alright. It's the warm days and frosty nights that challenge them.

ABitofsense · 08-04-2020 11:41pm

12th this evening. Nice heifer off 2nd calver aax with LM Lodge Hamlet bull. Water broke & calf out in 22minutes, calf up & sucking in another 10min. Such a lively calf. Why can't the all be like that!

tellmeabit · 09-04-2020 1:18pm

Mbp heifer calf off a maiden heifer last nite around 11. Big pull with the Jack. Seemed plenty room inside but very tight when I out the hand in to make sure was coming right. Pushing a good but to try and get head out. Had to Jack. Calf slow to get up. Cow not providing alot of milk. Got 1.5 ltr in using bottle. And no interest in sucking at 5 this am. So stomach tubed 2.5 in around 11. Not showing sign to want to drink at all now. Thinking was she too long coming out.

GiantPencil · 09-04-2020 2:04pm

tellmeabit wrote: »

Mbp heifer calf off a maiden heifer last nite around 11. Big pull with the Jack. Seemed plenty room inside but very tight when I out the hand in to make sure was coming right. Pushing a good but to try and get head out. Had to Jack. Calf slow to get up. Cow not providing alot of milk. Got 1.5 ltr in using bottle. And no interest in sucking at 5 this am. So stomach tubed 2.5 in around 11. Not showing sign to want to drink at all now. Thinking was she too long coming out.

What breeding is the heifer? Surprised to see MBP used on a heifer with the way his calving difficulty is on heifers. Lucky you were there to assist, hopefully she perks up over the next few days

tellmeabit · 09-04-2020 2:35pm

GiantPencil wrote: »

What breeding is the heifer? Surprised to see MBP used on a heifer with the way his calving difficulty is on heifers. Lucky you were there to assist, hopefully she perks up over the next few days

Ch heifer.maybe 27 months. Asked for ZAG or easy calving lm. What's what he gave. Not my normal Ai guy.

The want to suck is gone on the calf. Maybe because it's full now, but if not any trick to encourage suck

Parishlad · 09-04-2020 2:47pm

tellmeabit wrote: »

Ch heifer.maybe 27 months. Asked for ZAG or easy calving lm. What's what he gave. Not my normal Ai guy.

The want to suck is gone on the calf. Maybe because it's full now, but if not any trick to encourage suck

The usual trick is something like honey. You can get a shot from the vet but not sure what the story is with vets calling out or you bring the calf to the vet. If you can get to a co-op/agri store you can get much the same thing in a small bottle. Think the stuff I got before was called Calf-Start. Just fire it down the neck and it should stimulate them to suck.
Best of luck anyway!

tanko · 09-04-2020 2:52pm

tellmeabit wrote: »

Mbp heifer calf off a maiden heifer last nite around 11. Big pull with the Jack. Seemed plenty room inside but very tight when I out the hand in to make sure was coming right. Pushing a good but to try and get head out. Had to Jack. Calf slow to get up. Cow not providing alot of milk. Got 1.5 ltr in using bottle. And no interest in sucking at 5 this am. So stomach tubed 2.5 in around 11. Not showing sign to want to drink at all now. Thinking was she too long coming out.

2.5 litres at 11 was a good feed, maybe she's still full yet. If she doesn't stand to such i suppose you'll have to tube her again.
If I have to help a calf suck i put sugar on my finger, get them sucking that, then squirt the milk into their mouth and then get the tit into their mouth and hope they keep sucking. It usually works but they need to be able to stand to do this.

Isn't their an injection you can get to stimulate them to suck, can't think of its name, have never used it.
The Ai lad that put MBP on that heifer needs a good kick up the hole, crazy carry on. Something like LM 2014 would be much better.

Sugarbowl · 09-04-2020 2:59pm

I’ve used a few different injections on young calves like that over the Spring that needed a perk up. Selenium worked well as did phosphorus/multi vit combo. The vet handed them over the counter with no hassle. After a few hours I’d see a big improvement. Definitely by the next feed.

50HX · 09-04-2020 7:44pm

+1 on the multivit

Didn't need it this year yet but did use it twice last year now foundoing it good

Hunger is a great help too, by 2mor the dopeyness of calving should be gone off her

When's calving starting 2020

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