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Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

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  • #1652
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,413 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is a link in this story to a site which takes reports.

    https://www.lmfm.ie/news/showbiz/ireland-has-most-ufo-sightings-in-europe-including-unnerving-reports-last-year/


  • #1653
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,459 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Looks like an electrical pulse in the air, i see better video quality from 1901
    The footage quality is a joke for 2021
    Makes no sense that in this day and age all you see is a fuzzy noisy mess,

    1901

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIa_t6M4ZYo


  • #1654
    dexter647
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭dexter647


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Looks like an electrical pulse in the air, i see better video quality from 1901
    The footage quality is a joke for 2021
    Makes no sense that in this day and age all you see is a fuzzy noisy mess,

    If you are referring to the new 2019 footage it was filmed at night using a thermal imaging camera.


  • #1655
    The Oort Cloud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    I found this recording from different pilots over Shannon Ireland a few years ago to be interesting. One pilot described the light object to be traveling mach 2 twice the speed of sound. Three different piloted aircraft saw this one.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kIprgAaWbo

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • #1656
    Psychlops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Just on that Corbell chap I wouldn’t trust him as far as I’d throw him


    Everything he says :pac:


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  • #1657
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    The Oort Cloud wrote: »
    I found this recording from different pilots over Shannon Ireland a few years ago to be interesting. One pilot described the light object to be traveling mach 2 twice the speed of sound. Three different piloted aircraft saw this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kIprgAaWbo

    A meteor was mentioned by someone in the conversation, but then that didn't quite add up with the two lights banking to the right & then climbing at speed.

    A meteor, or something else?


  • #1658
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,413 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Mach 2 is about 2,500 kilometres per hour. Voyager left earth in 1977 and is doing about 55,000 kilometres per hour. It will take it thousands of years to get to any planets in other solar systems. If that was some alien craft, it was going very slow to get anywhere in a hurry. But too quick to let anyone figure out what it was. What were they up to?


  • #1659
    lintdrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Looks like an electrical pulse in the air, i see better video quality from 1901
    The footage quality is a joke for 2021
    Makes no sense that in this day and age all you see is a fuzzy noisy mess

    It's frustrating but there are a few things to consider:

    This latest footage was taken at night on the sea. So pitch dark. It was recorded using a thermal image camera.
    There may be higher quality footage of this or other events taken by the US military but for reasons of intelligence secrecy or some such it hasn't been released to the public, nor would it likely be released. Bear in mind that the Navy ships that have captured these images aren't carrying the most amazing video or photo camera technology that would be used in the television industry, they are carrying very specific equipment that allows them to track and record enemy craft. They're not designed to record imagery in Imax quality, they have other very impressive functions such as ranging and speed measurement but the "video" quality is not designed to be cinematic.

    It's also often said that these phenomena are by their nature difficult to see even with the naked eye and thus difficult to get a clear image of. Some suggest this is because these are either physical phenomena that we don't understand or even interdimensional in nature which is why they are "fuzzy" in appearance. That's all conjecture of course because nobody knows what they are. But it's one potential explanation.


  • #1660
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    60 Minutes special on UFO/UAP's coming, all the talk on Twitter. Really going mainstream now. That Charlie Bird report on RTE is not far off now.

    Airing tomorrow. By all accounts 60 minutes is a huge deal in America.

    The female pilot of the Nimitz encounter is giving her story.

    https://twitter.com/60minutes/status/1393250354133970949?s=21


  • #1661
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,371 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Mach 2 is about 2,500 kilometres per hour. Voyager left earth in 1977 and is doing about 55,000 kilometres per hour. It will take it thousands of years to get to any planets in other solar systems. If that was some alien craft, it was going very slow to get anywhere in a hurry. But too quick to let anyone figure out what it was. What were they up to?

    You're making the assumption that Mach 2 is the only speed they do.

    Your car can do 10 kph, it can also do 150. Maybe these guys can do Mach 2 and Warp 2!


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  • #1662
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    You're making the assumption that Mach 2 is the only speed they do.

    Your car can do 10 kph, it can also do 150. Maybe these guys can do Mach 2 and Warp 2!

    The radar operator on the US Nimitz and on other aircraft monitoring the unidentified craft stated that it went 40,896 miles and hour which is around Mach 53.

    The pilots also stated that it had instantaneous acceleration to these speeds which is beyond anything we have.


  • #1663
    Fuzzyduzzy
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Fuzzyduzzy


    So how do we go about suggesting a forum for this topic? My guess is that will happen when RTE discuss this next month when the "do you believe?" Question is not the question anymore but rather "What are they?"


  • #1664
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    So how do we go about suggesting a forum for this topic? My guess is that will happen when RTE discuss this next month when the "do you believe?" Question is not the question anymore but rather "What are they?"

    There's a forum suggestion forum I think! Suggest and I'll back it up.


  • #1665
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    So how do we go about suggesting a forum for this topic? My guess is that will happen when RTE discuss this next month when the "do you believe?" Question is not the question anymore but rather "What are they?"

    You mean like a whole forum!

    Wow that's ambitious, but maybe it will be needed after next month's monumentus revelations, not just on RTE, but across the board worldwide (fingers crossed)?

    When I started this thread this time last year, I wasn't sure if it would take off or if it would be ridiculed, ignored or just dumped, but it's doing alright ......

    If you guys think a whole forum is the next step then I'll go along with that and support it too ✓


  • #1666
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Picked a hell of a week to quit my online exobiology diploma.


  • #1667
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    The UFO topic was discussed on Redfm in Cork on Friday. Several people phoned in with their stories.

    It all begins at 48:50.

    A very interesting story at 58:08 from a man who saw a cigar shaped object only two months ago in east Cork.

    Also another interesting case from someone living on the Carlow/Kilkenny border.

    Listen here.

    https://www.redfm.ie/on-air/podcasts/neil-prendeville-on-redfm/episode/14th-may-20211/?autoplay=1


  • #1668
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,371 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The radar operator on the US Nimitz and on other aircraft monitoring the unidentified craft stated that it went 40,896 miles and hour which is around Mach 53.

    The pilots also stated that it had instantaneous acceleration to these speeds which is beyond anything we have.

    I don't accept for a second that the standard issue tracking systems on our earthbound military assets have the ability to track that kind of movement accurately or reliably.


  • #1669
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    Airing tomorrow. By all accounts 60 minutes is a huge deal in America. The female pilot of the Nimitz encounter is giving her story.

    https://twitter.com/60minutes/status/1393250354133970949?s=21

    When/how can we get to watch it?


  • #1670
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I don't accept for a second that the standard issue tracking systems on our earthbound military assets have the ability to track that kind of movement accurately or reliably.

    Then don't. Radar operators seem to. I also doubt that standard issue can be used to describe military issue radar equipment.

    Edit: Here's the link for the video where Kevin Day, the radar operator on the US Nimitz explains to Mick West (professional sceptic) about the characteristics of the object tracked by the pilots. It's worth looking at if you're interested in some of the more scientific approaches in UFO studies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv9iKw_Q9xQ&t=4s


  • #1671
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    When/how can we get to watch it?

    It's on CBS tonight at 12 our time.

    Watch here.

    https://ustvgo.tv/


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  • #1672
    macnug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I don't accept for a second that the standard issue tracking systems on our earthbound military assets have the ability to track that kind of movement accurately or reliably.

    Didnt one of the pilots say they started to see them after upgrading the radar system?


  • #1673
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    macnug wrote: »
    Didnt one of the pilots say they started to see them after upgrading the radar system?

    Yes as did the radar operator. They could observe objects via radar previously but these were far more advanced.

    Most interesting is the fact that the squadron commander, Dave Fravor stated that when he tried to get a radar lock on the thing his system reported that it was being jammed by the object it tried to lock onto. Radar jamming is technically an act of war.
    'This is not like we saw it and it was gone or I saw lights in the sky and it's gone – we watched this thing on a crystal clear day with four trained observers,'

    The phenomena committed an 'act of war' by jamming the military's radar when they tried to trace it.

    'I’m going to meet it and I’m probably a half mile away and it’s coming across my nose …and it just accelerates and disappears at about 12,000 feet in less than a half second and it’s gone,' Fravor said.


  • #1674
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,535 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Yes as did the radar operator. They could observe objects via radar previously but these were far more advanced.

    Most interesting is the fact that the squadron commander, Dave Fravor stated that when he tried to get a radar lock on the thing his system reported that it was being jammed by the object it tried to lock onto. Radar jamming is technically an act of war.

    not sure you want to be going to war with an enemy capable of mach50+.


  • #1675
    Sakana
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭Sakana


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    The UFO topic was discussed on Redfm in Cork on Friday. Several people phoned in with their stories.

    It all begins at 48:50.

    A very interesting story at 58:08 from a man who saw a cigar shaped object only two months ago in east Cork.

    Also another interesting case from someone living on the Carlow/Kilkenny border.

    Listen here.

    https://www.redfm.ie/on-air/podcasts/neil-prendeville-on-redfm/episode/14th-may-20211/?autoplay=1

    I think stories like these just trivialise the whole thing. Folksy tall tale sort of vibe.


  • #1676
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Sakana wrote: »
    I think stories like these just trivialise the whole thing. Folksy tall tale sort of vibe.

    Yes exactly, it's that old wink wink, cue X Files music, break out a smile and let's be silly for a few minutes about something childish & rediculous.

    That kinda vibe, very annoying.


  • #1677
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    not sure you want to be going to war with an enemy capable of mach50+.

    The worst case scenario is that these things are from a hostile nation. This is always a possibility.


  • #1678
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,535 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The worst case scenario is that these things are from a hostile nation. This is always a possibility.

    in which case we are fecked.


  • #1679
    Psychlops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The worst case scenario is that these things are from a hostile nation. This is always a possibility.




    I highly doubt any nation is more militarily advanced with technology than the US.


  • #1680
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,319 ✭✭✭emo72


    Good article. I'm surprised this isn't getting more traction. Never in my life did I think I'd see the likes of this.


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  • #1681
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    If I dont post this now..I never will...10 years ago this month...I saw an UAP...It was also witnessed separetly by someone else which I did not know at the time.

    After discussing the situation with others I have decided to contact the IAA aswell to restrospectively report it.


  • #1682
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    speckle wrote: »
    If I dont post this now..I never will...10 years ago this month...I saw an UAP...It was also witnessed separetly by someone else which I did not know at the time.

    After discussing the situation with others I have decided to contact the IAA aswell to restrospectively report it.

    If you don't mind me asking but what part of the country did you see this. Can you explain what exactly did you see. How high up was it. Was it during the day or night.

    By the way, the IAA didn't say anything to the public about the 2018 incident off the South Coast.


  • #1683
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    So how do we go about suggesting a forum for this topic? My guess is that will happen when RTE discuss this next month when the "do you believe?" Question is not the question anymore but rather "What are they?"

    A forum sounds a bit much for a thread that only has 140 pages after a year.


  • #1684
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    lawred2 wrote: »
    A forum sounds a bit much for a thread that only has 140 pages after a year.

    I think the theory behind a dedicated forum is based on what might happen next month. Revelations & disclosure by the US government might prompt a massive jump in all such posts, hence the suggestion for a UAP forum, although it remains to be seen what disclosure there is.


  • #1685
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,535 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    I think the theory behind a dedicated forum is based on what might happen next month. Revelations & disclosure by the US government might prompt a massive jump in all such posts, hence the suggestion for a UAP forum, although it remains to be seen what disclosure there is.

    how many times this year have we been told that something massive is coming?


  • #1686
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    In June . . .

    Drip drip feed of revelations for the last six months or so, leading up to the official US Government disclosure in June. Let's wait and see.


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  • #1687
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    In June . . .

    Drip drip feed of revelations for the last six months or so, leading up to the official US Government disclosure in June. Let's wait and see.

    I'm not sure what to make of all this hype of what's going to happen next month. You would think if it's going to be official disclosure it would be done through the UN and other countries would say what they know.

    If you leave America and all it's celebrity Ufologists out of the equation, you have the Belgian Air Force holding a presser after the 1990 incident admitting they chased craft not of this world. We also have incidents with Iranian, Czech, Yugoslavia, Russian, Mexican, Chilean, Peruvian air forces on record.

    Not sure how much evidence people need.


  • #1688
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Folks just on this big bombshell disclosure report that people seem to be so excited about ...

    This “disclosure” report was legislated for in one of trumps last acts - is that right? And it was proposed by one of the republicans senators?

    Is there a possibility that the Biden administration will either water down whatever goes in the report


    or maybe even cancel the publication altogether?


  • #1689
    macnug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    The question is do people want to know, most people I know wouldn't be able to handle it, whatever "it" is, they'll either just ignore it and get on with their lives or just rubbish it. Look at the Belgian air force press conference for example, it didn't change anything, most people went on with their lives because that's what they wanted to do. Ignorance is bliss n all.

    Personally I think the truth of it we will never know and that these UFO's are just a modern manifestation of things we have seen since the dawn of humanity, gods, demons, etc. rather than extraterrestrials that come from a specific space time location.


  • #1690
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    macnug wrote: »
    The question is do people want to know, most people I know wouldn't be able to handle it, whatever "it" is, they'll either just ignore it and get on with their lives or just rubbish it. Look at the Belgian air force press conference for example, it didn't change anything, most people went on with their lives because that's what they wanted to do. Ignorance is bliss n all.

    Personally I think the truth of it we will never know and that these UFO's are just a modern manifestation of things we have seen since the dawn of humanity, gods, demons, etc. rather than extraterrestrials that come from a specific space time location.

    As opposed to doing what?

    Seriously!?


  • #1691
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Folks just on this big bombshell disclosure report that people seem to be so excited about ...

    This “disclosure” report was legislated for in one of trumps last acts - is that right? And it was proposed by one of the republicans senators?

    Is there a possibility that the Biden administration will either water down whatever goes in the report


    or maybe even cancel the publication altogether?

    No this was a bipartisan issue. Harry Reid, Democrat and former senate majority leader organised the majority of this with collaboration with the republicans. It is very much bipartisan. In fact the democrats expected push back from the republicans on this but the opposite seems to have happened.


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  • #1692
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    If you don't mind me asking but what part of the country did you see this. Can you explain what exactly did you see. How high up was it. Was it during the day or night.

    By the way, the IAA didn't say anything to the public about the 2018 incident off the South Coast.
    I am writing it up first in detail after recently contacting the other person to re-affirm what they saw also at the time ..then will post here at the same time I ring the IAA..as well as contacting a local td so no one can wash their hands of it until it is... hopfully fully scientificaly explained.


  • #1693
    macnug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    lawred2 wrote: »
    As opposed to doing what?

    Seriously!?

    I'm not going to say what should or should not be done, I'm just observing that nothing came of it, just like there's a good chance nothing will change from the June report.


  • #1694
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Mach 2 is about 2,500 kilometres per hour. Voyager left earth in 1977 and is doing about 55,000 kilometres per hour. It will take it thousands of years to get to any planets in other solar systems. If that was some alien craft, it was going very slow to get anywhere in a hurry. But too quick to let anyone figure out what it was. What were they up to?

    When you are in a car park you are going to drive slow so you dont hit anything even though the car is capable of really high speeds normally.


  • #1695
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,821 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    The ones recently are military without question

    The US are doing the whole " oh god we don't know what these things are ",Eh yes yes you do they are you ,

    I can take a clear picture of the moon on my phone but the military cant get a clear picture of one of these , It's because they don't want to ,

    Have the tried to shoot any of them down NO why because they own them , You telling me if something flew into American airspace they wouldn't try to take it our encase its Russian or from Chain ,

    Look people know there object up there , so the military just agree and say "oh jez ye look I wonder what that is "


  • #1696
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,535 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    The ones recently are military without question

    The US are doing the whole " oh god we don't know what these things are ",Eh yes yes you do they are you ,

    I can take a clear picture of the moon on my phone but the military cant get a clear picture of one of these , It's because they don't want to ,

    Have the tried to shoot any of them down NO why because they own them , You telling me if something flew into American airspace they wouldn't try to take it our encase its Russian or from Chain ,

    Look people know there object up there , so the military just agree and say "oh jez ye look I wonder what that is "

    how do you shoot down something that can move at mach50+ and change direction immediately?


  • #1697
    whatawaster81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭whatawaster81


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    The ones recently are military without question

    Have you not seen the footage where it breaks the lock, essentially an act of war. They can't even lock onto it, it moves so fast in different directions.


  • #1698
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    I would say the green nightime "pyrimid UFO" is nothing but an out of focus night vision camera with a triangular appature, but leaving that aside, what about all the other video & visual evidence?

    What did Cmdr Fravor witness?


  • #1699
    Sakana
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭Sakana


    Will we see first contact in the next fifty years?


  • #1700
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,371 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Sakana wrote: »
    Will we see first contact in the next fifty years?

    Yes.

    On April 5, 2063 Zefram Cochrane will fly his converted nuclear missile starship at warp speed to the outer solar system, where it will be spotted by a passing Vulcan vessel.

    They will divert to Earth to greet the people who sent up the ship.


  • #1701
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,752 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    So how do we go about suggesting a forum for this topic? My guess is that will happen when RTE discuss this next month when the "do you believe?" Question is not the question anymore but rather "What are they?"

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=446

    That was the original one, and you'll more than likely be pointed there if you suggest it.


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