Dun Laoghaire Ironman 70.3 2018

jester1980 · 12-07-2018 9:18am

Thanks for advise there, love the sellotape idea,

Ill try and see can I get some of these bars and try them out on cycles, hopefully they put up the aid stations soon on the map, will keep checking.

68 lost souls · 12-07-2018 9:30am

jester1980 wrote: »

Thanks for advise there, love the sellotape idea,

Ill try and see can I get some of these bars and try them out on cycles, hopefully they put up the aid stations soon on the map, will keep checking.

I would recommend electrical tape rather than sellotape

68 lost souls · 12-07-2018 9:33am

rxchxy wrote: »

For anyone looking to do the route in full Ballybetagh road through to Killegar Lane is closed from 08.00 a.m. to 18.00 p.m. Monday to Friday from 16th July to 17th August 2018. This is the road from Johnnie Foxes down towards Kilternan. They're resurfacing it which is great because that whole section through Glencullen village is a bit of a nightmare with the potholes at the moment

Where is Killegar Lane, doenst come up on google maps. I havent noticed any signs or anything around and my daily commute brings me through Glencullen. Will be a pain as I normally go trough at about 8:30.

rxchxy · 12-07-2018 10:04am

68 lost souls wrote: »

Where is Killegar Lane, doenst come up on google maps. I havent noticed any signs or anything around and my daily commute brings me through Glencullen. Will be a pain as I normally go trough at about 8:30.

Not 100% sure but I think it's essentially where Killegar Road joins Ballybetagh Road.

Think the signs only went up yesterday or the day before. Announced back on June
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news/temporary-closure-ballybetagh-road-glencullen-co-dublin

EDit · 13-07-2018 4:35pm

So, I got my first taste of the bike route today, as did the Kilternan-to-Kilternan circuit (starting out opposite the wedding shop on the R117). TBH, bit of a disaster (the date should have told me that!).

First off, the Garmin bike computer packed in about 5k into the cycle. Was fully charged, so no idea what’s up. Anyway, rightly or wrongly, I rely heavily on my cadence readings for gear selection, so missed that terribly for the remainder of the ride. Secondly, I fell off coming round a tight bend at ~20kph...”luckily” I landed in a bush of thorns and nettles, so apart from being scratched to bits and itchy, it’s not too bad. Very fortunate there wasn’t a wall there. I picked myself up, but it was just before that final hill up to Glencullen, so it took the wind out of my sails just at the wrong time.

Anyway, with multiple stops, some expected (ie, nutrition and drinks + to relieve the inevitable back ache) some not (to try and fix the Garmin, for the crash, for temporary traffic lights, for slow cars going down some hills, and at least twice because I thought I’d gone the wrong way, but hadn’t) I did the 65k in 3 hours, 14 mins, which is near enough bang on 20kph average (which is what I need as a minimum to get onto the run before the cut-off). Kinda pleased I did get that as an average, but the experience certainly hasn’t boosted my confidence

Ho hum, will try it again in a few weeks and see if it works out better next time

jester1980 · 13-07-2018 4:50pm

Hey fair play to you, sounds tough, I did same route few weeks back and average was 20.8, similar, and loads of stops to check my map ha.

then last week went up and was 21.5. and that was few days after bug, so im hoping with training and race atmosphere I can get close to 23.

So you might be similar.

EDit · 13-07-2018 5:10pm

Thanks, that’s quite reassuring actually.

Btw, anyone any hints about keeping the flies away? I was struggling up that windy section leading to Sally’s Gap and I had a swarm of the buggers around my head and arms. It was hard enough cycling up them hills without those little ****s buzzing in your ears and trying to feed off the sweat on your arms 🙂

jester1980 · 13-07-2018 5:15pm

EDit wrote: »

Thanks, that’s quite reassuring actually.

Btw, anyone any hints about keeping the flies away? I was struggling up that windy section leading to Sally’s Gap and I had a swarm of the buggers around my head and arms. It was hard enough cycling up them hills without those little ****s buzzing in your ears and trying to feed off the sweat on your arms &#55357;&#56898;

Oh its crazy the amount of them isn't it, there were none when I did the course in June so assume its something to do with the weather.

I couldn't get rid of them as I was going to slow up hill ha

dickidy · 15-07-2018 2:13am

Heh all. So this question is about the swim. Have done the distance a few time and average around the 45 min mark, but one day I was obviously against the tide and didn't move for about 10 min. Is the race timed to go out with the tide. I got a bit nervous after that swim that if I'm against the tide coming in I'm screwed . First timer starting to panic

RacoonQueen · 15-07-2018 9:16am

The swim course will only be decided on the day. If the water is particularly bad swim will be shortened or cancelled.
Was very choppy a few years ago though and they didn't shorten it.

Statler · 15-07-2018 10:44am

dickidy wrote: »

Heh all. So this question is about the swim. Have done the distance a few time and average around the 45 min mark, but one day I was obviously against the tide and didn't move for about 10 min. Is the race timed to go out with the tide. I got a bit nervous after that swim that if I'm against the tide coming in I'm screwed . First timer starting to panic

Tide will be on the way out on the day, high tide is at 6.23am, swim start is 8am. I've always found there's a few weird currents on that swim course whenever I've been doing it before raceday, but never notice it on the day. It might be something to do with tidal changes, but you'll be fine if you're doing the distance in 45 minutes, race day energy could well knock time off that. Best things would be to try and swim the course sometime 1.5 to 2 hours after high tide, that should in theory replicate the tidal/current conditions on the day.

Yeager101 · 15-07-2018 5:37pm

Anyone got the GPX of the bike course handy?

rodneyr1981 · 18-07-2018 3:22pm

Apologies if this has been covered already but what's the situation regarding parking?
Will it be possible to park close to race start on the morning? Thanks

EDit · 18-07-2018 4:43pm

rxchxy wrote: »

For anyone looking to do the route in full Ballybetagh road through to Killegar Lane is closed from 08.00 a.m. to 18.00 p.m. Monday to Friday from 16th July to 17th August 2018. This is the road from Johnnie Foxes down towards Kilternan. They're resurfacing it which is great because that whole section through Glencullen village is a bit of a nightmare with the potholes at the moment

FYI, they haven’t started this yet as I did the route today and no roadworks to be seen anywhere. As the original end date is 2 days before the event I hope this doesn’t screw up the bike route by being delayed.

jester1980 · 18-07-2018 5:00pm

folks is the swim start a rolling start or mass start, cant sea on the website but maybe looking in wrong place

Andy Magic · 18-07-2018 5:12pm

Yeager101 wrote: »

Anyone got the GPX of the bike course handy?

I did the majority of it back in April if this is any use to you.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1555911596

cjt156 · 18-07-2018 6:30pm

http://m.eu.ironman.com/triathlon/events/emea/ironman-70.3/dun-laoghaire/athletes/faqs.aspx#swim_facts

Rolling waves according to the FAQs page.

Edit, I meant to quote your post, not like it. I'll let you keep it, I am a benevolent God. ;-)

jester1980 · 19-07-2018 8:11am

Great thanks, was right there on front of me and missed it.

I like the rolling starts so that's good

Statler · 19-07-2018 10:51am

rodneyr1981 wrote: »

Apologies if this has been covered already but what's the situation regarding parking?
Will it be possible to park close to race start on the morning? Thanks

There's a multi storey car park in the old Dun Laoghaire shopping centre on Marine Road, just a stone's throw from T1, another in the Bloomfield shopping centre further down George's street. There's plenty of on street parking around the area but between road closures and whatever way the pay and display parking will work on the day I'd say a carpark is the hassle free option.

WattsUp · 20-07-2018 1:32pm

Just recovering from injury and thinking about signing up as should be okay by that race day. €320 + processing fee is pretty steep. Anyone know of promotion codes etc ?
Is this race likely to sell out?
Does anyone know the last date to enter assuming it does not fill ?

Milk_Tray · 22-07-2018 5:03pm

Is it true the bike course has changed?? Hearing LOTs of rumours it has! (The last major climb taken out of it)

syntheticjunk · 22-07-2018 5:33pm

Looking at the map now - looks like they removed it and added few extra miles in Glenageary.

RacoonQueen · 22-07-2018 5:57pm

Milk_Tray wrote: »

Is it true the bike course has changed?? Hearing LOTs of rumours it has! (The last major climb taken out of it)

They've a new map on their website. That wasn't a major climb though :pac:
It's also down as 87km now

Milk_Tray · 22-07-2018 9:09pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

They've a new map on their website. That wasn't a major climb though :pac:
It's also down as 87km now

Well it was one of 3 'major' climbs on the day.. I for one am glad I dont have to do it :pac:

Shedite27 · 22-07-2018 9:13pm

What climb is gone?

EDit · 22-07-2018 9:15pm

Looking at the map, we will still need to do part of the climb up to Glencullen, but only the last third/quarter vs the original route...better than the whole hill though 🙂

They’ve made a few changes to the routes in and out of DL as well, but doesn’t look like it will make a huge difference overall

EDit · 22-07-2018 9:18pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

What climb is gone?

The final long, winding hill up to Glencullen. As has been said, this was not one of the “major” climbs, but was a bit of a ****ter so far into the cycle. Can’t say I am disappointed to not be doing that full climb tbh

RacoonQueen · 22-07-2018 9:35pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

What climb is gone?

No longer goes down by hellfire and DSPCA and back up Cruagh. Now turns sharpish right at viewing point, down part of cruagh and then right up to Glencullen.

Inspector Coptoor · 22-07-2018 10:17pm

I cycled the old route with the climb up to Glencullen today.
A very testing route.
Running a half marathon after that will be a challenge for me anyway.

Will do the newer route on Friday and try to do it as a brick with a run afterwards.

28 days to go

miller82 · 24-07-2018 7:12am

Disappointed they removed it but its down to road works not being completed seemingly.

cjt156 · 24-07-2018 8:22am

Disappointed too, had psyched myself up for it after doing the route a couple of times. I'm sure I won't regret it on the run though...

reidman · 24-07-2018 9:58am

You'll be fine on the swim, it's usually beautiful at sunrise with minimal or slight current. Use the lighthouse for sighting on the first leg and aim left on the way out, usually plenty of room tight to the buoys. As you swim down in line with the pier on second leg the white bath house was usually a decent line and from there you're on the home stretch. You'll swim better than you think, enjoy it, was always a great start to the event. Good luck!

68 lost souls · 24-07-2018 10:13am

miller82 wrote: »

Disappointed they removed it but its down to road works not being completed seemingly.

That’s bull the road works are not on the course. It’s more an excuse than anything. The old route would take a right on Mount Venus road and the road works are left of it.

Makes a big change with a major decent taken out followed by a 100 degree right turn is more why they took it out I’d say. That was where I was going to go view it on the day.

EC1000 · 24-07-2018 10:33am

68 lost souls wrote: »

It’s more an excuse than anything

68 lost souls wrote: »

Makes a big change with a major decent taken out followed by a 100 degree right turn is more why they took it out I’d say.

Is that not a good thing for the participants (and the St John's Ambulance guys to save on plasters?)

RacoonQueen · 24-07-2018 1:57pm

68 lost souls wrote: »

That’s bull the road works are not on the course. It’s more an excuse than anything. The old route would take a right on Mount Venus road and the road works are left of it.

Makes a big change with a major decent taken out followed by a 100 degree right turn is more why they took it out I’d say. That was where I was going to go view it on the day.

Not sure if it was confirmed or not but I'd say residents in the area were pretty pissed at the concept of being blocked in for a day as they have limited ways out as it is because the 'roadworks' have had the road closed for months even though no actual work is going on.

68 lost souls · 24-07-2018 2:02pm

I live in the area myself and it’s part of my daily commute so I’m fairly familiar with it. I think that could have part to do with it but a straight answer as to the reason would be better I feel to people that I’ve been training on that particular section of the route for months already.

Statler · 25-07-2018 10:00am

As above the local residents/emergency services having limited access in the event of extra road closures is probably the genuine reason. The residents have been (understandably) increasingly vocal about the 'roadworks' (or rather lack thereof), so I'd imagine the council/organisers have realised they're only stirring up a hornet's nest trying to close more roads around them.

Hope I'm not tempting fate but interestingly all the road closures for the race are still at the 'proposed' stage.
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news-public-notices/ironman-703-proposed-road-closures-dlr

peter kern · 25-07-2018 1:23pm

Statler wrote: »

As above the local residents/emergency services having limited access in the event of extra road closures is probably the genuine reason. The residents have been (understandably) increasingly vocal about the 'roadworks' (or rather lack thereof), so I'd imagine the council/organisers have realised they're only stirring up a hornet's nest trying to close more roads around them.

Hope I'm not tempting fate but interestingly all the road closures for the race are still at the 'proposed' stage.
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news-public-notices/ironman-703-proposed-road-closures-dlr

i would not spend too much energy on the precise course it will be roughly as outlined but changes can and will always happen. its not getting any easier planing a course (the opposite is true its getting harder and harder)

Diego Murphy · 26-07-2018 7:06pm

Statler wrote: »

As above the local residents/emergency services having limited access in the event of extra road closures is probably the genuine reason. The residents have been (understandably) increasingly vocal about the 'roadworks' (or rather lack thereof), so I'd imagine the council/organisers have realised they're only stirring up a hornet's nest trying to close more roads around them.

Hope I'm not tempting fate but interestingly all the road closures for the race are still at the 'proposed' stage.
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news-public-notices/ironman-703-proposed-road-closures-dlr

I'm not from the area so the road names mean nothing to me. How close will ppl be able to get to the town for parking on the morning of the event? I'm not staying too far away but need to get the car in a bit closer. Any suggestions as to where to park?

Statler · 26-07-2018 7:18pm

Diego Murphy wrote: »

I'm not from the area so the road names mean nothing to me. How close will ppl be able to get to the town for parking on the morning of the event? I'm not staying too far away but need to get the car in a bit closer. Any suggestions as to where to park?

There's plenty of carparks in DL town centre, doubt any of the roads will be fully closed before the swim start so you should be fine.

Shedite27 · 27-07-2018 9:36am

Diego Murphy wrote: »

I'm not from the area so the road names mean nothing to me. How close will ppl be able to get to the town for parking on the morning of the event? I'm not staying too far away but need to get the car in a bit closer. Any suggestions as to where to park?

This year is the first year of the run being in DL too so there might be more road closures than usual.

rxchxy · 27-07-2018 9:43am

Diego Murphy wrote: »

I'm not from the area so the road names mean nothing to me. How close will ppl be able to get to the town for parking on the morning of the event? I'm not staying too far away but need to get the car in a bit closer. Any suggestions as to where to park?

The athlete guide says there will be parking on the day at the ferry terminal which is about a 5-10 minute walk from where transition will be

Inspector Coptoor · 27-07-2018 2:40pm

Did the bike route this morning but there are road works in Glencullen so instead of going straight through and down to Kilternan, I went right, down Devil’s Elbow, into Enniskerry and left back to Kilternan which added on around 6km, 200m elevation and around 20 minutes.

Spin took me 4:25 but would have been 4:05 or so without the detour.

Second time doing th route and feeling more confident of making the cut off now.
Was worried after an appallingly long spin on sunday.

jester1980 · 27-07-2018 2:43pm

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Did the bike route this morning but there are road works in Glencullen so instead of going straight through and down to Kilternan, I went right, down Devil’s Elbow, into Enniskerry and left back to Kilternan which added on around 6km, 200m elevation and around 20 minutes.

Spin took me 4:25 but would have been 4:05 or so without the detour.

Second time doing th route and feeling more confident of making the cut off now.
Was worried after an appallingly long spin on sunday.

Good work, I did the whole course yesterday myself, Felt very unmotivated yesterday but got it done in 4.01, so hopefully on the day can get down to 3.50

The legs wee defo feeling it in the end though, nice to be able to spin the legs out on the downhill though. Nice fast course form 65km to transition.

Statler · 27-07-2018 3:08pm

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Did the bike route this morning but there are road works in Glencullen so instead of going straight through and down to Kilternan, I went right, down Devil’s Elbow, into Enniskerry and left back to Kilternan which added on around 6km, 200m elevation and around 20 minutes.

Spin took me 4:25 but would have been 4:05 or so without the detour.

Second time doing th route and feeling more confident of making the cut off now.
Was worried after an appallingly long spin on sunday.

You can get through the road works, slowly, they've left a small pathway open on one side, I asked the lad manning the barrier nicely if I could make it though, he waved me on and just said to stick right, even if they say no just tell them you're going to Johnny Fox's and off you go.

Inspector Coptoor · 27-07-2018 4:01pm

Statler wrote: »

You can get through the road works, slowly, they've left a small pathway open on one side, I asked the lad manning the barrier nicely if I could make it rhough, he waved me on and just said to stick right, even if they say no just tell them you're going to Johnny Fox's and off you go.

Thanks for that.

Gonna do the route again on Wednesday all going well.

EDit · 29-07-2018 12:11pm

Just reading the athletes guide and it has timings for bike racking on Saturday based on race number....should we have our race number by now? I don’t recall receiving mine.

Also, bike cut-off has been extended to 5:45 hours after swim start

Marty Bird · 29-07-2018 12:14pm

EDit wrote: »

Just reading the athletes guide and it has timings for bike racking on Saturday based on race number....should we have our race number by now? I don’t recall receiving mine.

Also, bike cut-off has been extended to 5:45 hours after swim start

You should get them this week normally around 2 weeks from race start.

Diego Murphy · 29-07-2018 12:28pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

You should get them this week normally around 2 weeks from race start.

I did Dublin last year and you only get your race number once you've registered. You might be allocated your number before then but the physical stickers etc that you need for transition are only allocated at registration. If you're registering on the Saturday, you can just walk straight out of the tent and rack your bike. The time slots for racking are more for ppl that are there in the days beforehand that can register early.

Marty Bird · 31-07-2018 3:17pm

Diego Murphy wrote: »

I did Dublin last year and you only get your race number once you've registered. You might be allocated your number before then but the physical stickers etc that you need for transition are only allocated at registration. If you're registering on the Saturday, you can just walk straight out of the tent and rack your bike. The time slots for racking are more for ppl that are there in the days beforehand that can register early.

I done this race in 2016 and it was 2 weeks prior to the race that I received my bib number likewise with IM UK it was around 2 weeks from the race start.

Dun Laoghaire Ironman 70.3 2018

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